Sweet Jesus, I hate Tucker Carlson. And Joe Scarborough isn’t exactly far down that list either. However, this exchange between the two of them was so far outside anything that that we in the reality-based community could recognize that I actually have to ponder out loud what color the sky is in their world. In discussing the gas tax proposal made by John McCain, Carlson and Scarborough conflate liberals with the media once again (because we all know the media is liberal, right? <snark>) and claim that the media is so in love with Barack Obama that they can’t criticize his stance against the gas tax.
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The reality that the media has acknowledged giving McCain a pass and the huge scrutiny of Obama and everyone he might have been in contact with aside–since I’ve already acknowledged that Carlson and Scarborough do not live in reality–how much more patronizing and ridiculous could their characterizing could be?
TC: It’s gonna be…It’s gonna be such a great election.
JS: It’s gonna be awesome. Especially when you have the media loving one candidate as much as they love Barack Obama.
TC: It’s more than love. It’s the kind of love that…anybody who’s been a ninth grade boy understands, this species of love. Do you know what I mean?
MB: Wow.
JS: No, it’s true. It’s all-consuming.
TC: It’s red-in-the-face, think-about-you-when-I-go-to-bed, too-embarassed-to-stand-up, sealed-with-a-kiss love. It’s puppy love.
MB: Wow.
JS: It really is.
MB: What are you guys talking about?
JS: No, seriously. The media’s love affair with Barack Obama is all-consuming. It is..it is…no, it really is. It is a ninth grade love affair, where if you say anything about their love interest, they get very red-faced, angry, and emotional. They can’t really think logically about it.
Now I’ll give Carlson the acknowledgment that there are some Obama supporters who are pretty out there with their support of their candidate (and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well), but he’s talking about the media, not passionate members of the electorate. To conflate the two just shows once again how shallow and un-informed Carlson and Scarborough are and how little truth they add to the public discourse.
Filed Under: Election 08, Media Bias, Morning Joe/Joe Scarborough
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I’ll take 9th grade over these idiotic 3rd grade mouthpieces, any day.
To both Tucker and Scarborough…STFU. Morons.
Yeah, I can see how calling someone a Communist Black Nationalist who wants to spread Shariah Law and is anti-American and a racist is loving them (gag.)
Somehow I think he uses that word. It does not mean what he thinks it means. Frist for Mandy Patinkin!
the lame stream media is the ONLY thing that kept Hill in the race this far (I,m talking to you Scar). please, if this is love I don’t want to see what it would be like for them to go negative.
No one enjoyed a media honeymoon more than Bill Clinton did back in 1992. I was there. I remember it well.
Now the Clintons are the Old Guard of the Democratic Party and not the cocky newcomers on the scene. They’re a known quantity. 1992 was sixteen long years ago, lest we forget.
I am personally ashamed that Joe Scarborough attended the University of Alabama, my parents’ alma mater and a school that I nearly attended myself. He doesn’t speak for me.
Whereas their love for McCain is more like the blind adoration a loyal dog would have for its owner.
To be honest I don’t think that the MEdia has been in love with Obama…I saw an awful lot of Hillary pandering , esp over these past 6 weeks ( and ALL of last year)…..but the thing is that Joe and Tucker are the ones that raved about Bush…and look how THAT turned out…( and now McCain will be treated like a Great Aged War Hero- even though he might not be competent to be prez)……
Standard Faux News GOP technique…
If you are a lying SOB, claim that the other guy is.
In this case you have a McCain loving talking head claiming that the “liberal media” loves Obama. Attack with your weakness.
And for doing this, they both get invited to ride on the bus and eat at the mext Cindy McCain BBQ.
There’s that word “awesome” again. Is every conservative, from Chimpy McPreznit to Joe Scars, going to turn into Jeff Spicoli right before our eyes? Or is JS just providing a little cover for President Nitwit, who uses the word in what are supposed to be informative press conferences? You know, make it seem like LOTS of edjumikated adults use the word in that context on a regular basis?
Comrade Kevin @ 4:
Yes that was pretty crazy. The way the young Clintons struck fear into the hearts of right wing nut America.
I remember the deafening and stunned silence of the right the day Bill defeated Bush Sr.
Fleetwood Mac blaring over the huge crowd dancing in the streets! No more Bush! No more Bush!
In a way, Clinton’s support of the gas tax holiday has been to the benefit of the Obama campaign. If it were just McCain proposing this flawed piece of political pandering, the Corporate Media would never have offered the critical analysis that they did and instead would have, at best, provided their usual “fair and balanced” reportage.
They have to keep repeating it because that’s how they shape opinion (for people who can’t think for themselves). I don’t know if they really believe this now, but if they just keep repeating it it will become “real” to their clan. It’s their job to twist rationality to fit prejudice. That’s what they do. It’s why their smug faces get put on the TeeVee machine.
Talk about conservative projection! The media loves Obama more than McCain?!? Meanwhile, McCain and the GOP would do really poorly if the media actually covered policy in a substantial manner. GOP economic policies almost always favor the already wealthy over the majority of Americans, and Republicans routinely lie about health care in the U.S. compared to other countries.
(and before someone starts attacking me for saying so, Clinton has some equally rabid supporters as well)
Look, great site bla bla bla … but while your statement might be true in a sense, the equivalency stops at vehemence.
By shear numbers your truthiness becomes an outright falsehood. Its no secret that the Left blogosphere is way tilted toward Obama. Site after A-list site has skewed so far to Barack that many have lost regular readers because of it. (you know who you are) So enough of this false equivalency nonsense. If Obama supporters can’t bear a truth said about them without dragging in an MSM style diffusion tactic perhaps they ought to chill out once in a while.
L.A. Confidential @ 9:
That was a STINGING DEFEAT for the CONS.
L.A. Confidential @ 14:
They didn’t even try to defeat Clinton he was so popular the second election.
Yes they said that but consider the source, a couple of dopes. Who cares.
We’ve been warned: Keep our 9th grade schoolboys away from Tucker Carlson.
The crazy pastors of the GOP you never hear about from the traditional media.
From dailykos:
Bush and the Crazy Pastor
by DarkSyde
Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:00:24 PM PDT
I don’t know what a search of Politicians and their Crazy Pastors on traditional media would come up with. But without seeing the results, I’m willing to speculate the double standard in play on progressive Vs. conservative crazy pastor problems is just breathtaking:
Ed Brayton — And did you see one article anywhere in the mainstream media about it? I’ve not seen one that even mentions that on May 2nd, the former president and father of the current president, George HW Bush, was paid by the world’s most prominent fascist cult leader to give yet another speech on his behalf, with Moon on the same stage. And it happened right in Washington DC, where the media has no excuse for not knowing about it.
“9th grade love affair”??
If they want to put it that way,
then they should at the same time admit that the media’s relationship with George W. Bush is like “battered wife syndrome”.
The media blames the many bruises and black eyes on the U.S. economy (and reputation) on everybody EXCEPT the man who has been in charge of American for the past 8 YEARS.
No, no, it’s not Bush’s fault! He didn’t do it!!! Y’see, it’s just that the country keeps walking face-first into, doors, falling down stairs. You know the routine…!! It’s just that America is a clumsy country, is all…
Scartissue: You know what’s interesting? Nobody wants health care, but when Democrats propose it, nobody in the media says anything against it. And nobody wants this silly Social Security thing, but people go crazy when you try to dismantle it. And people don’t want roads and bridges — that’s the last thing they want. Everyone knows it. But when you tell them that we’ll give you your money back so that you don’t have to have those bridges you complain about every day, they act like the sky is falling. Only when you try to take money away from horrible things governments do. Must be that liberal media.
Fucker: Well, sure, Joe. The liberal media makes people seem selfish when they want to keep their hard earned money. What’s so sad is that you and I are having this conversation here, and no one in the media will cover it! It won’t even make it on tv! But here’s the thing, just in case someone overhears us. Consumption taxes are good conservative taxes.
Scartissue: Oh, you’re so right! You’re so right! We conservatives, who are never allowed on television, love consumption taxes! Liberals shouldn’t like the gas tax. They only like it because their dreamy, black, liberal hunk likes it. Can you imagine how the liberal media would act if it were John McCain who wanted to keep the gas tax? It would go nuts! The media would trot out unfair nonsense about, oh, I don’t know, his pastor or something, for days without end, and try to crucify him! Am I right, Fucker?
Fucker: Oh, you’re so right, Joe! So right! He’s dreamy; he’s black; he’s liberal. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. [eyelids make butterfly motion]
Scartissue: Uh, Fucker? You with us, buddy?
Fucker: Oh, uh…sorry. Anyway, it’s gonna be such a great election. The media has such an incredible puppy crush on Obama. Take it from a perpetual 9th-grade boy! I know this kind of love when I see it!
Token Female: You guys are so right on— uh— I mean, wait a minute. I’m not a 9th grade boy. Can you describe this feeling I’ve never had? Because I’m just a girl, and don’t experience young puppy love.
Scartissue: Oh, Token, it’s quite emotional. It’s like, if you say anything bad about the one I have a crush on, you get all red-faced and angry. Kinda like how I get when Rachel Maddow puts me in my place on that other show.
Token Female: Awwwww. Cute!
Fucker: Before we leave, lemme let y’all know — Rush is right for having switched his support to Obama. Because now that he is the presumptive nominee, he is the weaker of the two. That’s not Machiavellian. It’s just good, old fashioned conservativism.
Geo @ 16:
lol, true enough. Its an evergreen story. But slammin’ these two clowns can hardly be called a bad thing.
so, according to asshat1 and asshat2, gas taxes (which are probably the best spent and most intelligent taxes we have) liberals should hate, even though they have very little to do with the high gas prices….but sin taxes are evil??
and according to these two, i imagined the wall to wall coverage of rev wright, the bitter comment, is obama a closet muslim and michelle obama being really proud to be an american
have either of these two idiots said word one about mcfeeble and his constant flip flops?
today, mcoldfart’s wife said they would not run a negative campaign….and why should they, with almost the entire media doing it for them
liberal media my ass
*cough* Orwell *Cough*
tc and scar are like two dingle berries hanging
on for life. eventually they fall off .
sun tzu @ 13:
With all due respect, you will not hold us responsible for the entire blogosphere.
C&L decided not to endorse a primary candidate. We have been scrupulous to not take sides, much to the frustration of some of our readers (and contributers, to be honest).
So there is no “truthiness” to my statement nor false equivalency.
Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II.
In fact Bill was Obamas age when he became President.
Whats love got to do with it? Whats love but a unelectable notion!
L.A. Confidential @ 26:
Nothing personal Obama fans just reminiscing a bit.
Batocchio @ 12:
Yeah, well it seems to me that the fact that the MSM lurvs The McCain has been slowly becoming more evident and more people are becoming aware of it. These lying jerkwads have to jump in now and stir the mud up from the bottom of that particular bucket before people can really focus. Once the water is nice and muddy, we’ll be nice and confused again. “Huh? The MSM favors McCain or Obama or Clinton or…? Ahhh, fuggit. Clearly it doesn’t favor ennybody; not even McCain. Move on people!” Topic squashed.
That’s their hope, imho.
The ever increasing shenanigans of the media and their paid slack-jawed mouth breathers is getting wackier by the day. Joe andd the guy named after hemmoroid medicine have been given free reign to confuse and confound like nattering butt trumpets and there doesn’t seem to be anybody or anything to help us all escape. Is there any escape from noise?
My first reflex his to stomp them like roaches, but I resist the temptation to get ensconced in the legal system and besides, they got the wrong kind of bars in those places. And with McCain hiding under the nearest neo-con skirt, things have been, to a certain extent, crazy and untenable.
It’s difficult, but I’ll try to put in some context, but I just get blotto and I can’t explain it in words without my head spinning like the time I got off the Hammerhead at the Corn Festival, just before my older brother yakked all over the girl who waited patiently in line with the pretty white flowered summer dress and the rather fetching tits, ruined for all time by pre-chewed chunks of hot dog, candy apple, and approximately 3 ears of corn slathered in over-salted butter and speckled with what appeared to be pepper but after further investigation, turned out to be fly doo-doo, as there was a bottleneck in the production line betwixt the casual boiling of the ears and the butter slathering station. And money wasn’t involved nor were there any reported labor disputes. I’m sure in time that pubescent young lady, through faithful attendance at a local Psychologist’s office, who was later incarcerated due to several well fingered photo albums of young patients who were photographed in the office restroom without their consent, and her faith in an omnipresent powerful being alleged to be the creator of all things but too disinterested in any way as to impede in the reception of yak upon that pretty dress, as the dress ultimately found it’s final resting in the big dumpster behind the Mayfair market. She eventually resigned herself to live in the now, as she, like Ingmar Bergman, finally deduced that god is silent, so what’s the fucking point anyway.
Persevere
sun tzu @ 13:
i take it that you are a clinton supporter
do you and your ilk ever ask yourself why the blogosphere has turned against the once golden child?
think it might have to do with comments like this:
I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview published Thursday. She cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
using repug talking points to show that she has the “uneducated white vote”
when did dems ever talk like this???
she is done
the ‘liberal’ media sure gives these 2 no-talents a lot of airtime.
I am not sure why all the indignation on this site. Much of their commentary in this instance is true. As a matter of fact, KO acts like someone ready to pick out the ring. And Tweety (is his hair color turning to orange?) acts like he would have a problem standing up after an Obama speech. Jack Cafferty is perfectly bombastic if anyone demonstrates a hint of criticism. Tucker and Joe may be tools but they are not far off the mark in this regard.
L.A. Confidential @ 28:
Believe me kids after 12 years of Republican Destruction under Reagan and Bush it was do or die time!
This is why iam glad I came back to C&L. here this is no pro this or that for canidate. Unlike other blogs where your torn a new face or simply banned or your comment deleted. I love this style of blogging. It offers each and everyone of us a chance to voice our opinions without some one calling you to the gallows or the stretching rack for ???
C&L,,, works for me .!
Karen @ 20:
LOLing. Just brilliant. My favorite bit:
Ahhh, good way to end my day; with a chuckle.
L.A. Confidential @ 34:
Looking at the “gifts” Reagan left, how exactly did he become electable? Guy was a nut all the way back when he was California Governor (the two aren’t necessarily going together, though with Arnie in office I sometimes wonder) and he somehow became electable…how?
Wow. I can’t believe these idiots actually get paid to come up with this juvenile crap.
As members of the MSM themselves, they’re pretty much proving themselves wrong, aren’t they? They and countless others on every major “news” outlet continually spew their mindless garbage about lapel pins, proper hand positioning during the National Anthem, pastors, Weathermen, elitism, etc., and yet somehow they’re still considered to be “serious” journalists?
They’re worthless. I haven’t watched cable news in several years and I won’t again until they toss these kinds of assholes overboard.
That last year of Bush Sr was a drag. Iraq, people with PHD’s lining up around the block hoping to apply for a Hotel Desk Clerk or Bartending job. Bush Sr. golfing and loafing and saying “hey it’s not our problem”.
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Nicole Belle @ 25:
Read carefully and don’t take such offense. I did not hold you responsible for the whole toobz, and yes, your false equivalency is plain to see. I quoted it. That was my whole point.
I see this as an exception here, not the rule. Otherwise I wouldn’t be here either. Ya, its also true that I am regular, daily visitor who actual does like C&L very much. Just tired of the BO nonsense pervading every corner of my online existence.