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Countdown: Bill Moyers On Democracy & Our Bumper Sticker Media

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Bill Moyers, host of PBS’ Bill Moyers Journal, is one of the few remaining REAL journalists left in American media. We’ve covered many of his PBS segments and it was a great pleasure to cover his appearance with Keith Olbermann on Monday’s Countdown.

Moyers and Olbermann touch on the corporate media, their biases and the way they are shaping, and in many cases, damaging our country and its politics by ignoring critical issues and grinding information into sound bytes and bumper sticker-type messages:

Olbermann: “…Clearly the tendency is towards truncating everything, condensing everything into that eventual black hole of information where nothing escapes. How does it apply as you look ahead towards this general election campaign? How does it apply to each of the candidates, in turn?”

Moyers: “I think it means for all of them that they won’t really get to the deep, profound structural problems that we face as a country. We’re not going to have a discourse in this campaign over the fact that the great American wealth machine is benefiting only those at the top. We’re not going to get to the fact that 10% of the people own 60% of the wealth and 70% of the people have no net worth. We’re not going to get to the issues of how do we rebuild the infrastructure, the sewer, the water, the highways, all that. We’re just going to be constantly in this battle of bumper stickers.”




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56 Responses for “Countdown: Bill Moyers On Democracy & Our Bumper Sticker Media”

My bumper stickers:

Got Osama?

Google PNAC

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SM Says:

I hope Olbermann felt a twinge of guilt after he sold himself to the Obama campaign.

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P.D. Says:

I hope Americans are finally waking up to the nightmare that MSM and their filthy rich owners and The Bush Adminisrtation has dumped at their feet. If not, our grandchildren are going to pay dearly.

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Ruth Says:

The media is catering to an audience that can’t understand two-syllable words. And that’s what they’re left with, anyone who wants real news is on the internet.

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James Says:

I’ve always like Bill Moyers. There’s a video on youtube from years ago, where he exposed the secret government that influences every aspect of our government. It’s definitely worth viewing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=669CF4DQaEQ

In fact, this video is the one that convinced me that Mr. Moyers is a legitimate journalist.

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P.D. Says:

Your right Ruth. MSM’s obsession with Obama and Hillary(Not the scandal that is breaking that the Bush Adm. knew of the cooruption and waste in Iraq) is dominating ALL coverage. It’s so bad I watch reruns of Married with Children for God’s sake!

Moyers is another good reason to okay cloning. We need many just like him.

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Krisken Says:

There are so few true Journalists left in America. All too often we are stuck with pundits and tabloid-like news pretending to be honest journalism.

It’s a good thing we still have Bill Moyers around to make all those pseudo journalists look bad.

I’ve noticed that MSNBC runs some news on their crawl but they don’t talk about it, instead they go on forever with the same Obama/Hillary stories over and over.

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Eric Hussein Elite Almighty Says:

I constantly have Rancid’s “Avenues and Alleyways” running through my head. The part about how the media “pits the dogs against the cats” seems prescient when there’s a discussion about how the corporate media keeps us distracted with petty crap so that we don’t drag the masters out of their gilded mansions and eat them.

Also. I got my Obama ‘08 t-shirt in the mail yesterday. The site said they were back-ordered, but it only took about a week. The sleeves come off today. Booyah.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

The skewering of the American consumer continues unabated. Rapidly emptying out pocketbooks like a thief in the night.

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emphasa Says:

Sad part is that if you seek the truth and strive to eliminate ignorance, you get labeled a “Liberal”.

(…as if it’s a bad thing.)

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Eric Hussein Elite Almighty @ 10:

I got my Obama ‘08 t-shirt in the mail yesterday. The site said they were back-ordered, but it only took about a week. The sleeves come off today. Booyah.

You check the label?

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Rusty Shackleford Says:

Eric Hussein Elite Almighty @ 10:

I constantly have Rancid’s “Avenues and Alleyways” running through my head. The part about how the media “pits the dogs against the cats” seems prescient when there’s a discussion about how the corporate media keeps us distracted with petty crap so that we don’t drag the masters out of their gilded mansions and eat them.

Also. I got my Obama ‘08 t-shirt in the mail yesterday. The site said they were back-ordered, but it only took about a week. The sleeves come off today. Booyah.

Rockin’ the John Oates look, Eric?

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ccf Says:

emphasa @ 12:

Sad part is that if you seek the truth and strive to eliminate ignorance, you get labeled a “Liberal”.

(…as if it’s a bad thing.)

that’s because the “truth” has a “liberal” bias.. i love bill moyers. i know well the sound of his reasonable voice.

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centralilgirl Says:

bumper sticker media for bumper sticker mentality. Journalists are a dying breed and educated citizens are also. I am sick and tired of being taken for a fool by the TV industry. And they can’t even figure out why their audiences have dwindled down year after year. I don’t have cable and I only watch my TV for the weather and local news. After that, I either read, do a hobby, clean, get on the internet(s) or talk with other human beings. It’s really enlightening to get away from that idiot box telling me how to feel, look, think and act. I advise everyone to try it :)

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Bonkers Hussein Says:

Doubting_Hussein_Terrance @ 1:

My bumper stickers:

Got Osama?

Google PNAC

Is that second one for real? I love it.

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Bonkers Hussein Says:

centralilgirl @ 16:

bumper sticker media for bumper sticker mentality. Journalists are a dying breed and educated citizens are also. I am sick and tired of being taken for a fool by the TV industry. And they can’t even figure out why their audiences have dwindled down year after year. I don’t have cable and I only watch my TV for the weather and local news. After that, I either read, do a hobby, clean, get on the internet(s) or talk with other human beings. It’s really enlightening to get away from that idiot box telling me how to feel, look, think and act. I advise everyone to try it :)

You won’t find any argument here. But when I do watch the TeeVee, I get more truth from a half hour of The Venture Bros or Spongebob Squarepants than I would from 10 years of FoxNoise. My TeeVee is programmed to skip right past their craptacular channel, anyway. I’d have to make a special effort to see it at all.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

There’s a Bill Moyers show on PBS where college and high school-educated respondents were asked to find Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel on a world map and only 23% of the college-educated under the age of 25 and 6% of high school-educated could find all four, despite the fact that the map they were given was labeled.

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Fred Says:

McCain: Tax cuts for rich kids, the bill for yours.

When is the MSM going to report on Pentagon-gate and Karl Rove’s possible [highly likely] involvement? When are they going to ask what the White House knew and when did they know it? When is the MSM going to report on their complicity in pushing the propaganda?

Just asking.

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Chico Hussein Says:

pissed off patricia @ 9:

I’ve noticed that MSNBC runs some news on their crawl but they don’t talk about it, instead they go on forever with the same Obama/Hillary stories over and over.

It’s their CYA policy.

Everyone does it and none of them can be blamed for ignoring real news stories.

Now, back to Obama vs Hillary ….

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 21:

When is the MSM going to report on Pentagon-gate and Karl Rove’s possible [highly likely] involvement? When are they going to ask what the White House knew and when did they know it? When is the MSM going to report on their complicity in pushing the propaganda?

Just asking.

Never

a great moment in press history. truth and truthtellers in one space. a true pleasure.

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johnnypunchclock Says:

centralilgirl @ 16:

bumper sticker media for bumper sticker mentality. Journalists are a dying breed and educated citizens are also. I am sick and tired of being taken for a fool by the TV industry. And they can’t even figure out why their audiences have dwindled down year after year. I don’t have cable and I only watch my TV for the weather and local news. After that, I either read, do a hobby, clean, get on the internet(s) or talk with other human beings. It’s really enlightening to get away from that idiot box telling me how to feel, look, think and act. I advise everyone to try it :)

Don’t despair. The internet is the great equalizer. It’s infinitely easier to stay informed now than it has ever been. Kill your television was the best advice I ever got from a bumper sticker. I went cold turkey for two years. Your eyes open quickly to the reality of the world without the idiot box. I’m young and have lots of friends who think like me. I know more about Obama from YouTube than any other source. Keep your chin up. The world is changing… fast. And the tv can’t keep up.

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Chico Hussein Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 19:

There’s a Bill Moyers show on PBS where college and high school-educated respondents were asked to find Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel on a world map and only 23% of the college-educated under the age of 25 and 6% of high school-educated could find all four, despite the fact that the map they were given was labeled.

War is God’s way of teaching geography to Americans.

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Chico Hussein Says:

johnnypunchclock @ 25:

centralilgirl @ 16:

bumper sticker media for bumper sticker mentality. Journalists are a dying breed and educated citizens are also. I am sick and tired of being taken for a fool by the TV industry. And they can’t even figure out why their audiences have dwindled down year after year. I don’t have cable and I only watch my TV for the weather and local news. After that, I either read, do a hobby, clean, get on the internet(s) or talk with other human beings. It’s really enlightening to get away from that idiot box telling me how to feel, look, think and act. I advise everyone to try it :)

Don’t despair. The internet is the great equalizer. It’s infinitely easier to stay informed now than it has ever been. Kill your television was the best advice I ever got from a bumper sticker. I went cold turkey for two years. Your eyes open quickly to the reality of the world without the idiot box. I’m young and have lots of friends who think like me. I know more about Obama from YouTube than any other source. Keep your chin up. The world is changing… fast. And the tv can’t keep up.

Be careful,
YouTube can be as vast a wasteland as TV is, if not more.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

johnnypunchclock @ 25:

I know more about Obama from YouTube than any other source. Keep your chin up. The world is changing… fast. And the tv can’t keep up.

Note that “reading” was not included on the list.

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Lonny Says:

I knew Bill Moyers was a journalist, but never paid much attention to him until the groundbreaking series with Joseph Campbell in The Power of Myth. Since then he’s been on my radar. And it’s in the last two years that I’ve really been paying attention to him.

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Kathy in St. louis Says:

This has been my complaint during this entire primary season. I guess I just wasn’t watching as much television news before. It’s hard not to be annoyed and disappointed at the lack of good questions, the poor quality of follow-up on issue questions and the repeat, repeat, repeat of the same “expert” commentators.

I’ve seen just about enough of Carville, Matlin, Buchanan, Cokie Roberts, etc., to last me the rest of my days. It’s insulting to think that these people, with their comments on the impact of the Reverend Wright, Bill Clinton, lapel pins, pant suits, Monica Lewinsky and on and on, will decide the nomination and the election.

So many of the news people seem to be lazy types who don’t want to do the research to get the right answers so that they can refute the wrong information given out by candidates and their surrogates. It takes staff (money) for the research and time to prepare for the broadcasts. A lot of our favorite talking heads, such as Tim Russert and Chris Matthews are all over other shows as contributors, and they don’t want to take the tme to prepare themselves for the tough interviews. They also attend too many cocktail parties with a lot of the people they interview and want to have decent social relationships with them.

This is killing independent news. Too bad. The American people are definitely paying the price.

pissed off patricia @ 9:

I’ve noticed that MSNBC runs some news on their crawl but they don’t talk about it, instead they go on forever with the same Obama/Hillary stories over and over.

CNN does a similar thing. recently, during an ‘Obama run’, CNN ran some negative screed about crime and some such. I think it’s the subliminal attack message to go with their general distractive news mishmash.

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Chico Hussein Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 19:

There’s a Bill Moyers show on PBS where college and high school-educated respondents were asked to find Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel on a world map and only 23% of the college-educated under the age of 25 and 6% of high school-educated could find all four, despite the fact that the map they were given was labeled.

Some couldn’t find the MILKY WAY on a map of the Virgo Super Cluster !!

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The Smiths Says:

As long as their are REAL journalists and investigators reporting locally and on the Internet…
…The Bush Crime Family Cannot Coverup the Truth, History or Their Ongoing Crimes

These Sick Sociopathic criminals Rove, Cheney, George Bush, their Financial
Gangsters, Corrupt Elites and their Propaganda News Networks Think They are Going
To Get Away With Destroying Our Country, War Crimes and Murder

Watch for their next move…
The next thing we know.. payed off and bribed media propagandists
will try to rewrite History to blame Obama for starting the war,
all the Bush crimes-still unprosecuted, and who knows what else.

Americans are United..
They are abandoning the GOP Crime party.

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ben Says:

SM @ 2:

I hope Olbermann felt a twinge of guilt after he sold himself to the Obama campaign.

What a silly person you are!

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We R Going 2 D.C. -
And -
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4 All of U.S.

more info at…

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From Media Matters, a multiple choice question:

Of the following, which outlet covered two recent major national security stories — NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS or Comedy Central?

You get three guesses and the first two don’t count.

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ccf Says:

when obama is elected president, he will need a 6 month tour on air force one just to apologize, and mitigate, for all the stupidity of the Bush years. this alone will be his greatest legacy as the next president

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fastfeat Says:

Rusty Shackleford @ 14:

Eric Hussein Elite Almighty @ 10:

I constantly have Rancid’s “Avenues and Alleyways” running through my head. The part about how the media “pits the dogs against the cats” seems prescient when there’s a discussion about how the corporate media keeps us distracted with petty crap so that we don’t drag the masters out of their gilded mansions and eat them.

Also. I got my Obama ‘08 t-shirt in the mail yesterday. The site said they were back-ordered, but it only took about a week. The sleeves come off today. Booyah.

Rockin’ the John Oates look, Eric?

Here in South Florida, we wear sleeveless T-shirts to reduce our carbon footprint.

As for Oates, I think he’s doing a gig this weekend at Gitmo…

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ysbaddaden Says:

I always wanted a bumper sticker that said, “I break for hallucinations.”

Bonkers Hussein @ 17:

Doubting_Hussein_Terrance @ 1:

My bumper stickers:

Got Osama?

Google PNAC

Is that second one for real? I love it.

I had to make my own. But everyone should know about PNAC, who was in it and their influence in our GWOT.

And why is our #1 enemy still on the loose? MAJOR FAIL!

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mudshark Says:

ysbaddaden @ 39:

I always wanted a bumper sticker that said, “I break for hallucinations.”

But only if you wear a hat and wear coke bottle glasses.

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ysbaddaden Says:

mudshark @ 41:

ysbaddaden @ 39:

I always wanted a bumper sticker that said, “I break for hallucinations.”

But only if you wear a hat and wear coke bottle glasses.

I already wear coke bottle glasses

That’s why my eye’s get so sticky

And if my bald spot gets any bigger

Haberdashery is next.

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ysbaddaden Says:

Got MILF?

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KCThinker Says:

The real issues are too boring for the average American to pay attention to. Start talking healthcare, social security, national debt, etc. and the average American stares blankly back at you. They may know of the issues but they do not know the issues. Talk about gas prices and inflation and food shortages and they are likely to quote back the drivel they got from watching 10 minutes of “news” the night before - no critical thinking whatsoever.

Our politicians don’t help when they think flag burning, gay marriage, and steriods in baseball is more important than $9 trillion+ in national debt, for example. It is not in their best interest to pursue the tough issues because 1) the harsh reality of the fixes needed to address the tough issues won’t get them re-elected and 2) the electorate usually don’t care until it is too late.

Who is going to vote for someone that says that we need to raise the national gas tax, raise taxes on everyone, cut spending drastically, and tell the baby boomers they will get less because we have spent and promised ourselves to oblivion? I would because I know the issues and I see what is going on the world, but the average American would not vote for someone like that because they do not know how the world is changing.

The average American will vote for someone who will maintain the status quo without much disruption to their personal lives. They want to have cheap gas to fill their SUV. It does not matter to them that life as we know it in America will be changing and not in a way that will benefit them. How can they know this when they know so little about the world around them in the first place?

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JLee Says:

I get conspiratorial and keep thinking that Wright went crazy on national television on purpose to give Obama a good reason to break with him. If true, that’s quite a sacrifice on his part–decades of dedication to others, then a national laughingstock. If not, he’s quite a complicated man and as Obama said in his speech on race, in many ways representative of the paradoxes of the community he served for so long. At any rate, no matter how close, his views can’t be attributed to Obama and it was silly of the media to pound it into the ground. At least it’s old news now.

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CEO,citizens,eyes,open Says:

The right has long been aware of the power of media used as a weapon. You can bet your last dollar that the latest takeover and control of american news outlets was planned and put in motion as far back as nixon by the neo and PFNAC gang of criminals. Chenney, Rummy,wolfie and the boys learned a hard lesson with viet nam and nixon being exposed by news media. Make no mistake these people are far from stupid and they plan everything they do far in advance, right down to the smallest detail. Go to the, project for a new american