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Federal Letters Tell Students They’re Security Threats

OK, we keep entering the land of the bizarre.

A German graduate student in oceanography at M.I.T. applied to the Transportation Security Administration for a new ID card allowing him to work around ships and docks.

What the student, Wilken-Jon von Appen, received in return was a letter that not only turned him down but added an ominous warning from John M. Busch, a security administration official: “I have determined that you pose a security threat.”

Similar letters have gone to 5,000 applicants across the country who have at least initially been turned down for a Transportation Worker Identification Credential, an ID card meant to guard against acts of terrorism, agency officials said Monday.

And the agency is part of the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees immigration matters, including student visas.

Ms. Guichard-Ashbrook said the security agency should remove the misleading language from all files and issue new letters formally withdrawing the “threat” label.

But Ms. Howe, the agency spokeswoman, said that the letters were legal, if flawed, and that there were no plans to send replacements.

Q: Yes, my name is Wilken and I would like an ID please?

A: Dude, you have a weird name and are from a foreign land therefore you are deemed a security threat and maybe sent to Gitmo immediately.

What the heck is going on?




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1
fiver Says:

What planet is this?

2
General_Rennenkampf Says:

And so it begins…

The Republic, having become an empire in name before one in fact, began to fall-

A rough paraphrase of the history of the Julius Caesar-Octavian period of the Roman Republic/Empire.

3
Atilla the Hungry Says:

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

4
EliteLemming Says:

Welcome to the police state, don’t forget your bracelets.

5
Scy Says:

Welcome to Soviet Amerika. Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

a veritable plethora of bad news has this country become.
a veritable plethora.

7
dadams Says:

this what happens when you have a retarded moron running the country.
the only real security threats to this country are the fascists in the whitehouse
posing as pres and vp.

8
General_Rennenkampf Says:

Scy @ 5:

Welcome to Soviet Amerika. Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

Not the USSR, the Imperium Romanum rises again…

The parallel between our situation and the rise of Augustus Caesar is almost eerie, particularly when you consider that Rome had the Empire for centuries before becoming a Republic…

9
EliteLemming Says:

American power is a myth, its all rust and paint.”

changed from the good shepard

10
j swift Says:

What the heck is going on?

21st Century American Proto-fascism

11
mudshark hussein Says:

Damn Feriners. What were they thinking?

Oh Wait, we’re all feriners.

12
tweakerbell Says:

Mr Amato did quest:

“What the heck is going on?”

Ummm, John. It’s called fascism. There was a coup, back in 2000. Remember? Yeah - that one. The junta that installed itself then has sunk its retarded excuse of an ideology deeply into the American security apparatus. I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee, but I think that will only be a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. I’ve secured an escape hatch, so if things don’t go as I hope (i.e. McCain or Hillary get in - yuck!) then I’ll flee the States and watch it sink from the sidelines.

But to your question - it’s all part and parcel of the fascist state. Naomi Wolf even wrote a book on it.

13
General_Rennenkampf Says:

tweakerbell @ 12:

Mr Amato did quest:

“What the heck is going on?”

Ummm, John. It’s called fascism. There was a coup, back in 2000. Remember? Yeah - that one. The junta that installed itself then has sunk its retarded excuse of an ideology deeply into the American security apparatus. I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee, but I think that will only be a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. I’ve secured an escape hatch, so if things don’t go as I hope (i.e. McCain or Hillary get in - yuck!) then I’ll flee the States and watch it sink from the sidelines.

But to your question - it’s all part and parcel of the fascist state. Naomi Wolf even wrote a book on it.

Watch out for the Praetorian Guard declaring their choice of Emperor because Emperor George won’t be able to pay them due to overstretching the treasury with the war…

tweakerbell @ 12:

Mr Amato did quest:

“What the heck is going on?”

Ummm, John. It’s called fascism. There was a coup, back in 2000. Remember? Yeah - that one. The junta that installed itself then has sunk its retarded excuse of an ideology deeply into the American security apparatus. I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee, but I think that will only be a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. I’ve secured an escape hatch, so if things don’t go as I hope (i.e. McCain or Hillary get in - yuck!) then I’ll flee the States and watch it sink from the sidelines.

But to your question - it’s all part and parcel of the fascist state. Naomi Wolf even wrote a book on it.

essentially, america is a boiled frog.

15
Gretchen Says:

Supposedly Bin Laden is going to release another message. Timely, in view of Bush’s comments today. So coincidental that these messages seem to come when BushCo can use them the most.

Are we ready for round #532 of unreasonable fear and panic among the sheeple?

16
MargeAggedon Says:

My husband’s family is in the US and I have to tell you honestly I have real fears every time we cross the border. I don’t know why but apparently being married to an American is enough to make me a suspicious person and we get stopped every time. I told him after the last trip I’m not going any more. And I’m not kidding.

17
MsJoanne Says:

Atilla the Hungry @ 3:

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Worth repeating!

And I wonder…who will speak for us.

18
MountainMan23 Says:

Bush Hates Our Freedoms

19
Rtbwa Says:

Inch by inch - the US is marginalizing itself to oblivian - If this pace keeps up - MIT will have the same stature as Regents University. in the World’s view…..

20
mudshark hussein Says:

Your Papers please…….

21
jim Says:

Um, I’m sure it gives the stormtroopers at the airports a real thrill to jack up those spooky foreigners & all, but doesn’t the US sort of NEED money right now - you know, like from things like foreign investment & tourism? Do they have any clue how this kind of story looks to folks considering a US holiday or business trip from overseas?

Looks like DHS is pissing in the economic punchbowl in more ways than one. How long before even the peso outpaces the greenback?

22
EliteLemming Says:
23
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

Yesterday i got fingerprinted by these people (on one of their new high tech machines that photo copies your prints into a data base). Apparently in order to transport anything to an airport these days you have to have a security check ( i am a courier). Everybody was very nice, but they gave me a questionaire to fill out.

Had i ever been convicted of forgery?

20 questions that asked had i ever been convicted of plotted to or was planning Air Piracy

Have i ever commited a murder?

Rape?

But the question i found most amusing was:

Gender:

Male______ Female_______ Other (Please Specify)_______________________________

Reich-wingers, are you proud of what you enabled?

25
mudshark hussein Says:

This is absurd.
I’d luv to stick around here tonight, but I can’t.
But I will say this, I’m glad you guys called these twits out on this.
I’ll see ya later.

26
mudshark hussein Says:

xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 23:

Yesterday i got fingerprinted by these people (on one of their new high tech machines that photo copies your prints into a data base). Apparently in order to transport anything to an airport these days you have to have a security check ( i am a courier). Everybody was very nice, but they gave me a questionaire to fill out.

Had i ever been convicted of forgery?

20 questions that asked had i ever been convicted of plotted to or was planning Air Piracy

Have i ever commited a murder?

Rape?

But the question i found most amusing was:

Gender:

Male______ Female_______ Other (Please Specify)_Martian______________________________

27
EliteLemming Says:

xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 23:

Yesterday i got fingerprinted by these people (on one of their new high tech machines that photo copies your prints into a data base). Apparently in order to transport anything to an airport these days you have to have a security check ( i am a courier). Everybody was very nice, but they gave me a questionaire to fill out.

Had i ever been convicted of forgery?

20 questions that asked had i ever been convicted of plotted to or was planning Air Piracy

Have i ever commited a murder?

Rape?

But the question i found most amusing was:

Gender:

Male______ Female_______ Other (Please Specify)_______________________________

You have to be joking… you are… aren’t you?

28
lafin gas Says:

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

29
I Like Pie Says:

fiver @ 1:

What planet is this?

Welcome to Bizarro World!

30
MountainMan23 Says:

Atilla the Hungry @ 3:

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Actually they came for the Communists first - Jews much later.

The first inmates in the Concentration Camps were Communists & Socialists.

The Guardian, Tuesday March 21 1933: Communists to be interned

The President of the Munich police has informed the press that the first concentration camp holding 5,000 political prisoners is to be organised within the next few days near the town of Dachau in Bavaria.

Here, he said, Communists, “Marxists,” and Reichsbanner leaders who endangered the security of the State would be kept in custody. It was impossible to find room for them all in the State prisons, nor was it possible to release them. Experience had shown, he said, that the moment they were released they always started their agitation again. If the safety and order of the State were to be guaranteed such measures were inevitable, and they would be carried out without any petty considerations.

The Guardian, Monday January 1 1934: Dachau concentration camp

The concentration camp at Dachau is often represented as a model of its kind. .. The truth is that this camp is in no sense a model, although it is no worse than many of the Hitlerite concentration camps. The following details of the organisation and routine have come into the possession of your correspondent:-

In addition to the regular punishments there are special forms of arbitrary ill-treatment. Thus prisoners are sometimes beaten with wet towels. Sometimes they are bastinadoed until the soles of their feet are lacerated. Several S.A. men (Brown Shirts) who arrived in the camp on August 1 were bastinadoed as well as being maltreated in other ways. Two of them, Amuschel and Handschuck, died of their injuries. The Communist Fritz Schaper was so beaten that he was prostrate for eight weeks. On September 2 one of the Nazi guards broke a prisoner’s jaw with a blow of his fist. On June 30 twenty prisoners were so beaten in the cellar under the kitchen that their cries could be heard by the other prisoners. Some prisoners have also been beaten with lengths of rubber hosepipe. Some have been burnt with cigarette ends and some have been put to what Americans call the “water torture”.

31
MountainMan23 Says:

lafin gas @ 28:

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

And that was written BEFORE it got really bad ..

32
Brendan Says:

I just got my own twic. I require access to petroleum refineries along the west coast. Most mariners are already way pissed about this, mainly because we already had cards which verified that we had ALREADY GONE THROUGH a federal background check. This redundancy was mandated by Congress and is enforced by Homeland Security.

33
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

EliteLemming @ 27:

xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 23:

Yesterday i got fingerprinted by these people (on one of their new high tech machines that photo copies your prints into a data base). Apparently in order to transport anything to an airport these days you have to have a security check ( i am a courier). Everybody was very nice, but they gave me a questionaire to fill out.

Had i ever been convicted of forgery?

20 questions that asked had i ever been convicted of plotted to or was planning Air Piracy

Have i ever commited a murder?

Rape?

But the question i found most amusing was:

Gender:

Male______ Female_______ Other (Please Specify)_______________________________

You have to be joking… you are… aren’t you?

No. I am very serious. I just stepped away to eat which is why i did not respond right away. I even remarked about it to a guy who was in there making an appointment to get finger printed.

34
Krackonis Says:

Rome created the empire and the ‘families’ ruled.

America has created the empire and the ‘corporations’ rule.

35
tr Says:

this is the world republicans gave us.

36
LunaStick Says:

This is supposed to be surprising? COME ON! Every single one of us here is a threat in the minds of a Bush administration official.
Why?
Because we think for ourselves. That is the biggest threat to totalitarianism.

37
EliteLemming Says:

Just how many specific “other” sexes can there be?

(Please don’t respond, after all I do have the Internet!)

38
Al Says:

jim @ 21:

Um, I’m sure it gives the stormtroopers at the airports a real thrill to jack up those spooky foreigners & all, but doesn’t the US sort of NEED money right now - you know, like from things like foreign investment & tourism? Do they have any clue how this kind of story looks to folks considering a US holiday or business trip from overseas?

Looks like DHS is pissing in the economic punchbowl in more ways than one. How long before even the peso outpaces the greenback?

Lokk in your wallet…..those aren’t dollars, they are North American pesos.…we just need to put George Dubya’s smirking face on them.

39
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

EliteLemming @ 37:

Just how many specific “other” sexes can there be?

(Please don’t respond, after all I do have the Internet!)

Asexual

Homosexual

Bisexual

And of course Trisexual

Never heard of a Trisexual?

They will try anything sexual. :)

40
calgarylady Says:

Well, this German is a terrorist, apparently. He attends one of those hack hillbilly schools, M.I.T.

What a loser. Gitmo-ize him!

41
EliteLemming Says:

Krackonis @ 34:

Rome created the empire and the ‘families’ ruled.

America has created the empire and the ‘corporations’ rule.

Well… what about Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons, Roosevelts, Kerrys, Pierces, Rockafellers, Johnsons, Waltons, etc. …

42
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

I think maybe the “Other(Please specify)” question may have been a test. Put anything in there, anything at all and your done.

43
EliteLemming Says:

xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 39:

EliteLemming @ 37:

Just how many specific “other” sexes can there be?

(Please don’t respond, after all I do have the Internet!)

Asexual

Homosexual

Bisexual

And of course Trisexual

Never heard of a Trisexual?

They will try anything sexual. :)

lol… you fergot pre-op

44
LunaStick Says:

calgarylady @ 40:

Well, this German is a terrorist, apparently. He attends one of those hack hillbilly schools, M.I.T.

What a loser. Gitmo-ize him!

M.I.T. must stand for Minions of International Terrorism

45
MargeAggedon Says:

xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 39:

EliteLemming @ 37:

Just how many specific “other” sexes can there be?

(Please don’t respond, after all I do have the Internet!)

Asexual

Homosexual

Bisexual

And of course Trisexual

Never heard of a Trisexual?

They will try anything sexual. :)

I was always told that “trisexual” meant you’d “Try” anything once ;)

46
geneHUSSEIN214 Says:

tweakerbell @ 12:

Mr Amato did quest:

“What the heck is going on?”

Ummm, John. It’s called fascism. There was a coup, back in 2000. Remember? Yeah - that one. The junta that installed itself then has sunk its retarded excuse of an ideology deeply into the American security apparatus. I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee, but I think that will only be a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. I’ve secured an escape hatch, so if things don’t go as I hope (i.e. McCain or Hillary get in - yuck!) then I’ll flee the States and watch it sink from the sidelines.

But to your question - it’s all part and parcel of the fascist state. Naomi Wolf even wrote a book on it.

The sad thing is, the Bushies aren’t even competent fascists. They’re like somethinng out of a Get Smart episode.

47
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

Well, i think the bottom line to all this is that they are protecting noone while branding innocent people as a security risk. The whole thing reeks of prejudicial small minded biggotry that is not only damaging, but ultimately dangerous.

48
EliteLemming Says:

LunaStick @ 44:

calgarylady @ 40:

Well, this German is a terrorist, apparently. He attends one of those hack hillbilly schools, M.I.T.

What a loser. Gitmo-ize him!

M.I.T. must stand for Minions of International Terrorism

What did he apply to the CIA as well?

49
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says:

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 46:

tweakerbell @ 12:

Mr Amato did quest:

“What the heck is going on?”

Ummm, John. It’s called fascism. There was a coup, back in 2000. Remember? Yeah - that one. The junta that installed itself then has sunk its retarded excuse of an ideology deeply into the American security apparatus. I’ll vote for the Democratic nominee, but I think that will only be a re-arrangement of the deck chairs. I’ve secured an escape hatch, so if things don’t go as I hope (i.e. McCain or Hillary get i