We would much prefer Mr. Rove voluntarily agreed to appear before the House Judiciary Committee, as would any other American citizen. But my view is that if he refuses to come voluntarily, we must first subpoena him, and if he refuses to honor the subpoena then the full House of Representatives must hold Mr. Rove in Contempt of Congress. And then we must ask the Attorney General to enforce the Contempt of Congress subpoena or citation. And if the Attorney General refuses to do so, which Mr. Mukasey said previously before the Judiciary Committee that he would, then I believe, reluctantly, we need to literally uphold the checks and balances that this administration has so abused and then we need to go the extraordinary step of issuing an Inherent Contempt of Congress.

Which will take what? 20-30 years?

Given a continuation of democratic majorities in congress the walls of this bush facade will crumble and some of these people who have flaunted the law for 8 years will pay

Wexler is a REAL politician of the old school. One of the few remaining reasons why I still have hope here in SoFla. Keep on Rove’s ass!!

konchster @ 2:

Given a continuation of democratic majorities in congress the walls of this bush facade will crumble and some of these people who have flaunted the law for 8 years will pay

I pray that you are right. I hope they get more than a nasty letter from Waxman. I think they will hide behind this executive privilige BS and the right wing supreme court will uphold it.

I don’t think Dan let Wexler finish his threat. Inherent Contempt of Congress means that they send the Sergeant-at-Arms out to arrest Rove and bring him before Congress, sit him down and make him answer questions and then toss his pasty ass in jail.

Oh, for Rove to be incarcerated, now that spring is here…Browning, right?

debit @ 5:

I don’t think Dan let Wexler finish his threat. Inherent Contempt of Congress means that they send the Sergeant-at-Arms out to arrest Rove and bring him before Congress, sit him down and make him answer questions and then toss his pasty ass in jail.

From your mouth to God’s ear!

I like Wexler and I even donated (from Michigan no less) but if you mean to dispatch a snake you best strike the head.

Impeach Bush!

This is inherent contempt. Rove needs to be arrested and dragged before the committee in an orange jumpsuit and shackles.

Impeach Bush. Then send him to the Hague.

I can only hope they do it.

debit @ 5:

I don’t think Dan let Wexler finish his threat. Inherent Contempt of Congress means that they send the Sergeant-at-Arms out to arrest Rove and bring him before Congress, sit him down and make him answer questions and then toss his pasty ass in jail.

It also means that if Rove were to be “convicted” by the chamber, a presidential pardon would not be available (see Jurney v. MacCracken in which a postmaster is owned).

The thought of the SaA tracking down Rove and arresting him kind of gives me wood.

“…he would only speak to them in private, not under oath and with no transcript..”

Dear Mr. Wexler, please just stop being polite to Mr. Rove.

Bluntly say, “Just who does this creep think he is?” When someone blatantly shows that much contempt for the rule of law and that little respect for Congress, they deserve special condemnation.

Does the SaA carry a nightstick?
If so, would he mind getting it a little dirty?
Please?

Let’s stop wasting all this money…there IS a war on ya know…and cut to the chase.

Sargeant of Arms…arrest that fat bastard and take him right to Leavenworth…do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

We get precisely what we deserve — more often than not, in the form of what we allow.

It is not enough to merely have laws — you must enforce the law on those who have no intention of following it.

In this particular case you must bring the law up to those who presume to be above it.

If this is not done then it is clear evidence of the state of corruption of American justice — not by Rove and his friends, but by those who are responsible for seeing that justice is done.

Excellent. Absolutely excellent. It’s been long past time since Rove first started exhibiting “above-any-law” behavior; it is definitely time for an “Inherent Contempt” citation. Drag his happy, fat ass out of that Baskin-Robbins and get him to the Congress floor.

Paul @ 9:

This is inherent contempt. Rove needs to be arrested and dragged before the committee in an orange jumpsuit and shackles.

Impeach Bush. Then send him to the Hague.

To better understand the mindset of the Right-Wing Rovian political reasoning, read Glenn Greenwalds book “Great American Hypocrites”. It give a very concise view inside the minds of the Republican Party members who say one thing and do another. I thought I understood them, but Glenn enables you to see the science of what they do to manipulate the press and the small-brained talk radio listeners.

The first rule of politics is this;
You don’t make enemies. Everybody is your friend. You never know; who is going to come back and get you.
Rove thinks that he is so clever; but, he burned a lot of bridges.
Don Siegelman is one of many people that hold a grudge against Karl Rove.
Now that the blood is in the water; people are going to come out of the woodworks to take a swipe at Karl.
This is only the beginning; we haven’t seen nothing yet.

Maybe this most recent loss by the Repugs of three special elections, all in GOP strongholds, all won by Dems, has given the Dems the needed boost to know that they can get more pro-active now.

Or maybe they’re realizing that if they wait until Jan., there may be nothing left.

I still have little faith that this gang will allow a peaceful transfer of power. Keep in mind that Bush already passed an edict giving him the right to suspend government and impose martial law, including suspending elections. He has his own mercenary army, he has had detention camps (ostensibly for illegal aliens) built here in the US, and he has suspended habeus corpus.

One “terrorist” attack in the US, followed by a strike at Iran and a suspension of the election, and anyone protesting will be rounded up. If people start getting rounded up, how many Americans would lay down and allow it? How many would rise up and fight?

Anyone still telling themselves that “it can’t happen here” is wilfully ignoring the evidence in front of their eyes, including members of Congress.

Alice (once a Naderite always…) @ 8:

I like Wexler and I even donated (from Michigan no less) but if you mean to dispatch a snake you best strike the head.

Impeach Bush!

Bush is more like the tail who believes its a head. If Rove isn’t the head he’s #2 (making Cheney numero uno).

reminiscent of “…a lot of sound and fury…” and where does it all lead? we’ve been down this road too many times. It can only lead to another book and an assignment as a panelist on fox news. incarceration or trial or expose. don’t get your hopes up.

If any private citizen refused to answer any summons, from any judge they would have the police knock their doors down and be thrown in hand cuffs right now and hauled off to jail! There is so much wrong with our legal system that lets elected officials do as they damn well please!This applies to dems and repukes alike!

Thank you Congressman for your honesty and your pledge to preserve and protect Our Constitution and People.

Karl Rove is a criminal whose only allegiance is to Criminals.

And keep a close watch and file on this very sick man… BUSH

Just yesterday, He just compared Democrats To Nazi-Appeasers
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....-appeaser/

We know who the real Nazi Appeasers were:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....ndworldwar
http://video.google.com/videop.....3394289910

The Next case to look into:
Maintain and document files on Bush Gutting the Espionage Oversight Board in March 2008.
Its worse than Watergate.

It is becoming apparent that Bush and Cheney have now evolved into a Espionage Crime mob operating from the White House.
Their only allies left are domestic and foreign criminals.
Marines, Soldiers, Navy Seals and Veterans are tracking their moves.

Please, no American President will ever see the Hague, even if they’re the most despicable person in America. The precident it would set would be terrible, even for other world leaders, not just power-mad despots, heads of facist states or war-mongering idiots . . . oh wait.

bigironal @ 21:

If any private citizen refused to answer any summons, from any judge they would have the police knock their doors down and be thrown in hand cuffs right now and hauled off to jail! There is so much wrong with our legal system that lets elected officials do as they damn well please!This applies to dems and repukes alike!

At one time, a long time ago, we decided to apply the law equally to the King of England, and look where that got us — our own country (at least for a while).

I once sued one of Newt’s little inbred college chums. He sent his other college bud, the Judge, a letter saying he didn’t feel the need to respond or appear in court. As corrupt as the judge eventually turned out to be, he smacked him a new one — and bubba damned well appeared in court the next time. Yet out of 3 subpoenas issued his way — not one person ever showed in court or for their depositions. This is the arrogance of the NeoCon mindset. They needn’t bother — they are above all that petty legal stuff meant for the peons. The judge was already bought and paid for via a previous dismissal of felony criminal charges.

If I had my way, Rove would be served with a subpoena duces tecum, and when he failed to appear with the requested records, would be arrested, handcuffed, frogmarched into court/congress in an orange jumpsuit, and then jailed for contempt — exactly like any other citizen would be. These people are simply employees of the citizens of the US — not Gods, and certainly not immune from the laws of this country. But they think they are…

And I would really like to get recently “retired” US District Attorney Greg Miller, Dana Jill Simpson, and a few other Florida Panhandle and Southern Alabama GOP operatives in there as well. In my opinion, there is a whole load of shit going on down there that they are frantically trying to conceal. This isn’t partisan — it’s criminal.

But the judges are already bought and paid for…

rooth hussein @ 18:

Maybe this most recent loss by the Repugs of three special elections, all in GOP strongholds, all won by Dems, has given the Dems the needed boost to know that they can get more pro-active now.

Or maybe they’re realizing that if they wait until Jan., there may be nothing left.

I still have little faith that this gang will allow a peaceful transfer of power. Keep in mind that Bush already passed an edict giving him the right to suspend government and impose martial law, including suspending elections. He has his own mercenary army, he has had detention camps (ostensibly for illegal aliens) built here in the US, and he has suspended habeus corpus.

One “terrorist” attack in the US, followed by a strike at Iran and a suspension of the election, and anyone protesting will be rounded up. If people start getting rounded up, how many Americans would lay down and allow it? How many would rise up and fight?

Anyone still telling themselves that “it can’t happen here” is wilfully ignoring the evidence in front of their eyes, including members of Congress.

Your scenario requires the cooperation of the Army. If the Army was willing to go along with such a scenario; it already would have happened. The Army comes from all walks of life. It’s truly a cross section of America. We are talking about your nephew or your neighbors daughter. The Army is on the side of the American people; they feel the same way, about this crap, as you and me.

Dr. Know @ 25:

I once sued one of Newt’s little inbred college chums. He sent his other college bud, the Judge, a letter saying he didn’t feel the need to respond or appear in court. As corrupt as the judge eventually turned out to be, he smacked him a new one — and bubba damned well appeared in court the next time. Yet out of 3 subpoenas issued his way — not one person ever showed in court or for their depositions. This is the arrogance of the NeoCon mindset. They needn’t bother — they are above all that petty legal stuff meant for the peons. The judge was already bought and paid for via a previous dismissal of felony criminal charges.

I agree. And I also believe that a lot of suspicious deaths involving Repugs and those who serve them were not the accidents and suicides they were portrayed as.

We really need to accept that evil people do truly evil things, and this is one evil gang. And, as you point out, they truly believe that the law is for the little people and they are above it. It can happen here.

People who believe they are exempt from the law are capable of anything.

If I had my way, Rove would be served with a subpoena duces tecum, and when he failed to appear with the requested records, would be arrested, handcuffed, frogmarched into court/congress in an orange jumpsuit, and then jailed for contempt — exactly like any other citizen would be. These people are simply employees of the citizens of the US — not Gods, and certainly not immune from the laws of this country. But they think they are…

And I would really like to get recently “retired” US District Attorney Greg Miller, Dana Jill Simpson, and a few other Florida Panhandle and Southern Alabama GOP operatives in there as well. In my opinion, there is a whole load of shit going on down there that they are frantically trying to conceal. This isn’t partisan — it’s criminal.

But the judges are already bought and paid for…

I think that i will never see
A sight as lovely and yet to be
Of Rove diminished before the Judiciary
Committee to testify
About how and when and where and why
The Constitution was his to defy
The explanations could be brief
Of who exactly was the thief
Of our Constitutional guarantees
And who decided to torture detainees
Would he come clean on Habeas?
I doubt it ’cause he’s such an ass.

Notreallyabadguy addresses the steps to conviction and ends with: “Which will take what? 20-30 years?”

Doctormidnight adds: “It also means that if Rove were to be “convicted” by the chamber, a presidential pardon would not be available (see Jurney v. MacCracken in which a postmaster is owned)”.

Let’s hope for the compromise to be the timing. Rove gets what he deserves but the process avoids any possible presidential pardon by Bush. So the real action needs to occur after Jan. 20, 2009.

I really hope they keep this going, Rove is guilty as hell. Is it possible to keep this investigation going until a Dem president(hopefully) is in place so that a presidential pardon would not be a factor

Dr. Know @ 25:

I once sued one of Newt’s little inbred college chums. He sent his other college bud, the Judge, a letter saying he didn’t feel the need to respond or appear in court. As corrupt as the judge eventually turned out to be, he smacked him a new one — and bubba damned well appeared in court the next time. Yet out of 3 subpoenas issued his way — not one person ever showed in court or for their depositions. This is the arrogance of the NeoCon mindset. They needn’t bother — they are above all that petty legal stuff meant for the peons. The judge was already bought and paid for via a previous dismissal of felony criminal charges.

If I had my way, Rove would be served with a subpoena duces tecum, and when he failed to appear with the requested records, would be arrested, handcuffed, frogmarched into court/congress in an orange jumpsuit, and then jailed for contempt — exactly like any other citizen would be. These people are simply employees of the citizens of the US — not Gods, and certainly not immune from the laws of this country. But they think they are…

And I would really like to get recently “retired” US District Attorney Greg Miller, Dana Jill Simpson, and a few other Florida Panhandle and Southern Alabama GOP operatives in there as well. In my opinion, there is a whole load of shit going on down there that they are frantically trying to conceal. This isn’t partisan — it’s criminal.

But the judges are already bought and paid for…

I have this strange theory. I think these people make all their money by laundering drug money. I think this is why they have such strong connections to these shady churches. Most religions are boarding up congregations. Now days, people have to choose between feeding their kids or supporting their community church. These Southern born-agains seem to be awash in money. I think they drop the drug money in a church, under the auspices of individual contributions. They kick the money into campaign contributions to get elected. Then they give out government contracts to make the money legit.

Congress members have to know someone in the CIA that can rendition his ass to a secret jail.

gussmith @ 29:

Notreallyabadguy addresses the steps to conviction and ends with: “Which will take what? 20-30 years?”

Doctormidnight adds: “It also means that if Rove were to be “convicted” by the chamber, a presidential pardon would not be available (see Jurney v. MacCracken in which a postmaster is owned)”.

Let’s hope for the compromise to be the timing. Rove gets what he deserves but the process avoids any possible presidential pardon by Bush. So the real action needs to occur after Jan. 20, 2009.

Right, take the time to develop a good sound case and then send him to the “pokey” on the 21st.

As far as all of this Bush corruption affects the coming elections, no incumbent is safe. Not the wimpy Democrats certainly. They saw the 2006 vote as an expression for changed yet they have capitulated on all the Bush crimes. A position in Congress is a mighty trust to do the right thing regardless of personal sacrifice. Instead all the parasites have only been concerned with reelection. So anyone in office running for reelection does not get my vote.

I Like Pie @ 31:

Dr. Know @ 25:

I once sued one of Newt’s little inbred college chums. He sent his other college bud, the Judge, a letter saying he didn’t feel the need to respond or appear in court. As corrupt as the judge eventually turned out to be, he smacked him a new one — and bubba damned well appeared in court the next time. Yet out of 3 subpoenas issued his way — not one person ever showed in court or for their depositions. This is the arrogance of the NeoCon mindset. They needn’t bother — they are above all that petty legal stuff meant for the peons. The judge was already bought and paid for via a previous dismissal of felony criminal charges.

If I had my way, Rove would be served with a subpoena duces tecum, and when he failed to appear with the requested records, would be arrested, handcuffed, frogmarched into court/congress in an orange jumpsuit, and then jailed for contempt — exactly like any other citizen would be. These people are simply employees of the citizens of the US — not Gods, and certainly not immune from the laws of this country. But they think they are…

And I would really like to get recently “retired” US District Attorney Greg Miller, Dana Jill Simpson, and a few other Florida Panhandle and Southern Alabama GOP operatives in there as well. In my opinion, there is a whole load of shit going on down there that they are frantically trying to conceal. This isn’t partisan — it’s criminal.

But the judges are already bought and paid for…

I have this strange theory. I think these people make all their money by laundering drug money. I think this is why they have such strong connections to these shady churches. Most religions are boarding up congregations. Now days, people have to choose between feeding their kids or supporting their community church. These Southern born-agains seem to be awash in money. I think they drop the drug money in a church, under the auspices of individual contributions. They kick the money into campaign contributions to get elected. Then they give out government contracts to make the money legit.

I think you may be right. If it is not happening on a grand scale it certainly must be happening on some level. It is just too workable a scam to have been ignored.

gussmith @ 34:

As far as all of this Bush corruption affects the coming elections, no incumbent is safe. Not the wimpy Democrats certainly. They saw the 2006 vote as an expression for changed yet they have capitulated on all the Bush crimes. A position in Congress is a mighty trust to do the right thing regardless of personal sacrifice. Instead all the parasites have only been concerned with reelection. So anyone in office running for reelection does not get my vote.

You need to study up on what has been happening for the last 7+ years and devote yourself to getting a full democratic majority in both the house and senate along with a democratic WH.

The problem with pursuing justice with the Bush administration is the utter lack of respect for the rule of law that they exhibit regularly.

Well, part of this is Congress’ fault. It’s LONG PAST TIME that the Sergeant at Arms be dispatched to arrest some of these scofflaws and frog march them before an investigative committee in cuffs.

gussmith @ 34:

As far as all of this Bush corruption affects the coming elections, no incumbent is safe. Not the wimpy Democrats certainly. They saw the 2006 vote as an expression for changed yet they have capitulated on all the Bush crimes. A position in Congress is a mighty trust to do the right thing regardless of personal sacrifice. Instead all the parasites have only been concerned with reelection. So anyone in office running for reelection does not get my vote.

I vote we melt all the guns on the planet.

It would seem that i can’t get enough votes to support my position.

I guess that makes me a coward.

Stop with the ridiculous dare and double dare nonsense!! Why waste time?? Why not go directly to inherent contempt of Congress??

FROGMARCH the treasonous fat fuck! I will personally travel to DC and party like its 1999 the day they throw that POS in the clink. If he is jailed in the Congress (they have a lil jail on site there) he can not be presidentially pardoned. If there is any Gods I pray they toss his repugnant ass in jail NOW!