Sen. Joe Biden was on ABC’s THIS WEEK and took President Bush and John McCain to the woodshed over their latest attacks on the entire Democratic Party including Barack Obama over their negotiating in any form with Iran. He busts Bush for being a complete hypocrite. Wow, who knew? Bush asked Biden to negotiate with Gaddafi and he did. And I think it turned out pretty good. And since Gates and Condi want to talk with Iran too, what does Biden think about that? Fire those appeasers now! I’m sure McCain will agree.
STEPHANOPOULOS: It sounds like you’re calling it hypocrisy.
BIDEN: Well, I should — I’m trying to be more polite, but I shouldn’t be. It was ridiculous. This is president — this is pure, unadulterated politics. And the last point I’ll make — maybe the president doesn’t know — I’ll be a smart guy, here –maybe he doesn’t know what’s going on in his own administration. But as soon as he gets back, he should fire, as appeasers, Gates…
STEPHANOPOULOS: Secretary of defense? BIDEN: … and Rice — secretary of defense and secretary of
state.STEPHANOPOULOS: Why? BIDEN: Because they both — Gates as recently as a week ago –said, we’ve got to sit down and talk with the Iranian directly.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the substance of what the president
was trying to say? Because John McCain picked up on it. He said
basically, you know, we have a big difference here. Barack Obama
wants unconditional talks with the Iranians. We don’t. Here’s what
Senator McCain said.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MCCAIN: Talking, not even with soaring rhetoric, unconditional,
and unconditional meetings with the man who calls Israel a stinking
corpse, and arms terrorist who kills Americans, will not convince Iran
to give up its nuclear program. It is reckless.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Obama has said that his State
Department, his National Security Council would engage in
unconditional talks with the Iranians.
BIDEN: Let’s put this in perspective. The reason why we’d be in
so much trouble if John McCain were president — and I love him — is
because of what you just heard.
What’s the alternative to talking with a country that’s building
a nuclear weapons, attempting to, that in fact is helping kill
Americans by supporting elements in Iraq that are killing Americans?
You either talk; you go to war; or you maintain the status quo.
Now, let’s talk about talking. President Bush, the White House,
called me, several years ago, told me Air Force Two was waiting for me
at Andrews Air Force Base; would I get on the plane and go meet with
Gadhafi, a real known terrorist, personally, a terrorist — personally
responsible for killing kids at the school I went to, Syracuse
University, blowing up that Pan Am flight.
The president of the United States asked me to go. He cut a deal
with Gadhafi, directly. It was a smart thing to do. He gave up his
nuclear weapons, Gadhafi.
What’s the second thing?
We’re in Korea, right now, George. You want to put the hit list
to the worst guys in the world?
How about Kim Jong Il?
They have proliferated nuclear technology, put us in jeopardy,
and other nations around the world. What is the president of the
United States doing, writing letters saying, “Dear Mr. Chairman” –
referring to him.
They’ve cut a deal. They’ve cut a deal. The president of the
United States of America, last time I was in Iraq, was trying to set
up, and recently asked for a third meeting with the Iranians, to talk
with them about what’s going on in Iraq.
This is sophistry. This is ridiculous.
STEPHANOPOULOS: It sounds like you’re calling it hypocrisy.
BIDEN: Well, I should — I’m trying to be more polite, but I
shouldn’t be. It was ridiculous. This is president — this is pure,
unadulterated politics.
And the last point I’ll make — maybe the president doesn’t know
– I’ll be a smart guy, here — maybe he doesn’t know what’s going on
in his own administration. But as soon as he gets back, he should
fire, as appeasers, Gates…
STEPHANOPOULOS: Secretary of defense?
BIDEN: … and Rice — secretary of defense and secretary of
state.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Why?
BIDEN: Because they both — Gates as recently as a week ago –
said, we’ve got to sit down and talk with the Iranian directly.
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Stephanopoulos didn’t know about Condi and Gates? Does he live in a cave?
Bush is a political opportunist and an ideolouge.
Who knew?
DUDE!! oh and sorry about last night C&L for my behaviour too !
Rufus @ 1:
He lives in a corporate media echo chamber.
You just gotta love Sen. “That’s Bullshit!” Biden.
But unfortunately it appears he didn’t get the IOKIYAR memo.
But then again, given the way things are shaping up, it appears that We The People either also didn’t get the memo - or are choosing to tear it to shreds.
Can I get an “Amen”?
Biden is right and its rather sad that the president of the USA has no idea of whos on first , second or third, then Bush makes choices based on ??? shit id say but then again what do we matter? We the ppl for the ppl was a thing of the past, quote it now and repubs think´´hippe´´!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 2:
Bush is a puppet…Cheney is the opportunist/ideolouge
Senator Biden has had it and thank goodness he is showing it. Go Biden I know you have noticed that the American public has lost some faith in our congress and the nation.
Biden’s still a doormat for continuing to agree with Bush while trying to throw back the “appeaser” comment at him. There was no reason for us to negotiate with Gadhafi, other than to make Big Oil happy. The reasons I’m ok with Obama talking to Ahmadinejad is that he doesn’t yet have blood on his hands, and because we’re not in a position to ignore whatever help we need to get us out of the quagmire that is Iraq. Talking to either Castro I was ok with, because the Cold War is over, and it’s hypocritical of us to let China sell us tainted dog food, while arguing that Fidel is an even bigger human rights violator than them.
New post up at my blog. enjoy it for the laughs and let go the tension etc.
Iam off to bed soon, Danke Crooks&Liars for a great blog where you guys play it straight and dont favor anyone or anything, just report the news as it is,, and offer us a chance to have our say.
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two colons in headline = fail
Instead of subsidizing poppy growers in Afghanistan for five years so that they could replant pomegrante, almonds, apricots (orchards that were wiped out during the fight with Russia for 10 years) The Bush administration is going to build a new prison in Afghanistan.
Wonder which American contractor won that bid.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/.....ghanistan/
Repugnantcants accuse the democrats of doing what they do all of the time. I just saw Hannity accuse the democrats of using the politics of fear. When are they going to face up to reality?
I still want to know who is the (alleged) Senator who (allegedly) said, “Oh Lord! I only wish I had had more time to talk to Hitler!” when the Nazis rolled into Poland in 1939.
Or so alleged my WarLord pResidnet ..
I assume he pulled it out of his lily white posterior ..
I would LOVE to watch Dana Perino’s reaction if anyone in the Press Corps asks her, “Just who was that Senator?”
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 4:
anyone who take talking points from scumbaggero is always below any level of expectations.
MountainMan23 @ 14:
Apparently it was a senator from Idaho. I don’t know the name.
It’s rather simple really.
The reason the White House hasn’t been upset with Gates and Rice is that it already knows for certain that Gate’s and Rice’s calls for talking to Iran aren’t appeasement. That’s because the calls for talks aren’t in the least bit sincere.
They are just part of building a plausible excuse for when the administration has to say “we tried diplomacy before we bombed as a last resort.”
PS. The skillful purposeful use of hypocrisy has been one of the Republican Party’s most effective tools in achieving their political goals. Charges of hypocrisy fall off a Republican like water off a duck. They just wink at each other and laugh.
MountainMan23 @ 14:
rotflmao!
Mr. Biden, add to hypocrite, liar, warmonger and thief. Then you’re on a roll.
chimpy should be ashame of himself but this dummy and the rest of the repugs just don’t want to make sense, they don’t want to have commonsense.
Go Obama!
Go USA!
I’m a victim of the GOP’s politics of fear. I fear they have ruined this country. I fear that they’ll do even more harm in BushCheney’s remaining months. I fear Congress won’t do what’s long overdue: impeach, indict, and imprison the Bush and his cabal of war criminals.
So either Bush is head-crushingly stupid, or he thinks the public is.
slippy hussein toad @ 21:
Not mutually exclusive…
Kathleen @ 12:
Be reasonable!
(1) America is the World’s Greatest Democracy. Right?
(2) America incarcerates a higher percentage of its population than any other nation. Right?
(3) America is Spreading Democracy. Right?
THEREFORE - Build More Prisons.
It’s the DEMOCRATIC thing to do!
PLUS!
It’s very profitable business.
Taxpayers pay Big Bucks!!
And .. you get to lock up the people YOU dont like!
CoIntelPro against Repug DoucheBaggery @ 15:
this fool has ruin his career because he takes talking points from the worst, hannity. what a goofball.
Jack Woomer @ 17:
exactly!
Jack Woomer @ 17:
Bingo. I made this point with someone earlier today.
It isn’t so much that Bush is an idiot and puppet (although he is). He makes sure he surrounds himself with people who know how to put the proper spin on things in order to make his dreams reality - giving ‘legitimacy’ to his actions. Well, at least in his own mind.
got to be sure that everyone is using the same definition for “appease” before discussing it….
1: to bring to a state of peace or quiet : calm
2: to cause to subside : allay
3: pacify, conciliate; especially : to buy off (an aggressor) by concessions usually at the sacrifice of principles
Gates and Rice wanting to talk to people might not really be appeasing…..
Biden might have it wrong here.
Republican Hypocrites.
Georgie Boy’s playing dumb schtick (”Whoa, Gates, why Gates?”) is page 1 in the Corporate Media Playbook. They’re all horrible.
Blogs starting to bring some attention to the Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) hearings last week. THE MSM HAS NOT TOUCHED THIS YET.
Soldier Refuses Iraq Tour, Citing ‘Stomach-Churning Horrors’
http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=12851
One Soldier Says No
http://firedoglake.com/2008/05.....r-says-no/
NOT A MENTION ABOUT THESE HEARINGS ON ANY MSM NEWS PROGRAM ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. ANYONE HEAR ANYTHING MENTIONED ON ANY OF THE SUNDAY TALKING HEADS NEWS PROGRAMS? ANYTHING AT ALL? hMMMM
the complete hearing from last Thursday of Iraq war veterans accounts. worth the watch
http://inside.c-spanarchives.o.....=202061800
Mike @ 11. Ah, the grammar police are on patrol again……
McCain thinks that talking is reckless ? Gee, maybe he learned something from his little Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran rendition. Talking is the only thing left when the military and economy are broken.
Now there are plans for a 40-acre prison in Afghanistan and a Disney-style amusement park in Iraq. These people are delusional.
I’m just disappointed Biden wasn’t able to work “malarkey” into his comments.
Biden was actually aware of what Gates said…. wow, he(Biden) must have started
reading the blogs….
MountainMan23 @ 14:
William Edgar Borah was the senator who was a prominent Republican attorney and longtime United States Senator from Idaho noted for his oratorical skills and isolationist views. One of his nicknames later in life was “The Lion of Idaho.” [snip]
Borah may be best known today for having allegedly said, in September 1939, after Germany invaded Poland, “Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.”
calgarylady @ 31:
Not only delusional but dangerous as well. They all have to go.
xenophon @ 7:
Bush is a puppet…Cheney is a terrorist and a war profiteer…the Republican Party are opportunist and ideolouges.
Ron @ 16:
Thanks for the tip!
The quote’s actual origin is almost as interesting as I had speculated:
It’s attributed to a REPUBLICAN SENATOR!!
Bush turns history on its head
tHeIKnowAHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 24:
thanks for the gentle correction.
Who has stock in war? Who’s making the $$$. Follow the money. McShitty, Bush, Cheney all profit. Of course they think talk is dangerous — to their wallets!
MountainMan23 @ 37:
He did something “bad” so Fox News will say he is a Democrat.