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Third Times A Charm: Kristol Once Again Flubs Facts In NYT Column

For years now, FOXNews pundit William Kristol has been wrong on nearly every subject he’s chosen to write about or speak to. His follies at Fox are legendary, and since bringing his special brand of fact- & research-free hackery to the pages of the New York Times, he’s made not one, not two, but now three glaring gaffes to add to his comical body of work.

Think Progress:

In his New York Times column today, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol tried to find reasons for conservatives to be optimistic about 2008 elections, despite the claims of some Republicans that “the Republican brand is in the trash can.” To support his argument, Kristol pointed to Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) 41-point loss in the West Virginia primary:

On Tuesday night, while the G.O.P. Congressional candidate was losing in a Mississippi district George Bush carried in 2004 by 25 points, Barack Obama was being trounced in the West Virginia Democratic primary — by 41 points. I can’t find a single recent instance of a candidate who ultimately became his party’s nominee losing a primary by this kind of margin.

Apparently Kristol didn’t look hard enough. Writing at Room Eight, New York political consultant Jerry Skurnik says it took him “all of 2 minutes to find what Kristol couldn’t find.” On Feb. 5, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney beat presumptive GOP nominee Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) by 85 points in the Utah primary: Read on…




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148 Responses for “Third Times A Charm: Kristol Once Again Flubs Facts In NYT Column”
1
Blue Lensman Says:

In Bloody Bill’s defense, facts do have a liberal bias!

2
Whitey Bitterman Says:

Facts we don’t need no stinking facts.

oh and Frist

3
Whitey Bitterman Says:

I mean second

He’s probably so heart broken that PNAC has completely failed that he can no longer concentrate.

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Haulin’ Oates Says:

um, that’s what he does.

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Blue Lensman Says:

I can’t find a single recent instance of a candidate who ultimately became his party’s nominee losing a primary by this kind of margin.

I would take little Billy at his word when he says, “I can’t find..”. His track record proves it!

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willie Says:

we all know that repubes do not do well with facts, irony and hypocrisy. it is not in their nature or political interest.

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Blue Lensman Says:

Dr. Bitter Hussein Matt @ 4:

He’s probably so heart broken that PNAC has completely failed that he can no longer concentrate.

DM: feel free to keep posting that link as often as you like - I laugh every time :)

Blue Lensman @ 6:

I can’t find a single recent instance of a candidate who ultimately became his party’s nominee losing a primary by this kind of margin.

I would take little Billy at his word when he says, “I can’t find..”. His track record proves it!

He probably exclusively uses Conservapedia as the only source for all his rants.

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Kbob Says:

Kansas Caucases:
Obama- 74%
Clinton- 26%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....te/#val=KS

District of Columbia Primary:
Obama- 75%
Clinton- 24%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....te/#val=DC

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Bruce Says:

Only a true sociopath can be that immune to truth. What a f*****g moron.

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Tejas Geek Says:

Considering that Obama trounced Clinton by similar or greater margins earlier in the campaign (Idaho +63 for Obama, Alaska +50 for Obama, Hawaii +52 for Obama), I guess this means that neither Obama nor Clinton can possibly win the nomination….

Yawn. He’s been wrong for years. Why should his writing be any different?

14
Left&Left Says:

Great photo Billy. Now everyone keep a close eye on your kids.

Well he looked in his shorts and there were no facts to be found there.

16
dadams Says:

kristol is a dickhead. he would sell his mother for a butt-warmer.

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Trittydi Says:

Bill “The Bloody” Kristol is an irretrievable idiot. He’s also an accomplice to a cabal of War Criminals of the highest order.

To mention “charm” in the same sentence with him is to offend.
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Saint Augustine Says:

Whitey Bitterman @ 2:

Facts we don’t need no stinking facts.

oh and Frist

First is easy, it is always post number one, last, however, is really hard because it changes as to what post number it is!

19
konchster Says:

“The Gray Lady” continues to give her naysayers plenty of ammunition. If they feel they need a conservative voice find one that at least is credible

20
Batocchio Says:

Kristol is extremely lazy, it’s true, but I hardly think all of his mistakes are incidental. Every mistake he makes slams Obama or another Dem. The slam gets played up, while the correction rarely gets as much attention. That’s how hacks like Kristol play the game. Sure, he’s lazy, but above all he’s dishonest hack with a nefarious agenda.

No matter what little billy is talking about, he always has that shit eating grin on his face. Has he had face lifts or something?

The repubs like him are so used to lying and no one calling them on it that they forget things are changing here on the inter-tubes. Fact checking is something they just aren’t used to.

22
Rusty Shackleford Says:

Maybe Billy is saying that McCain isn’t going to be the Republican party nominee.

23
Kyle Says:

Perhaps Kristol is attempting to show solidarity with his party’s nominee by acting senile.

24
StirFry the Appeaser Says:

So he’s supposed to be correct? I thought his column was the political comedy section of the NYT?

19 konchster Says: If they feel they need a conservative voice find one that at least is credible

Yeah, no kidding. I understand they need different views, but Kristol is obviously not working out.

25
mudshark Says:

Off topic/ Gas prices top 4 bucks a gallon.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12400801

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ysbaddaden Says:

StirFry the Appeaser @ 24:

So he’s supposed to be correct? I thought his column was the political comedy section of the NYT?

19 konchster Says: If they feel they need a conservative voice find one that at least is credible

Yeah, no kidding. I understand they need different views, but Kristol is obviously not working out.

Well they don’t have a comic page.

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ysbaddaden Says:

dadams @ 16:

kristol is a dickhead. he would sell his mother for a butt-warmer.

Ya mean his mother doesn’t warm his butt?

28
Randy Says:

I used to think that Dan Quayle chose Kristol to be his Chief-of-Staff because Kristol was obviously superior in intellect to Quayle. Now I realize that Quayle just wanted someone just like him. What a fricken’ maroon.

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Trittydi Says:

Re-PIG-lics don’t need a reason to lie. Not even Neo-conservative re-PIG-lics.

It is like breathing for them - they do it without thought or hesitation. These are the godless and amoral among us.
*

I think Hillary is going to take the race all the way to the rules committee and if they don’t see things the way she wants, she will blame her loss on the committee rather than the voters.

What are people like Billy going to do when Obama becomes president in spite of all their carping, lying and exaggerations? Will they immediately start doing hit pieces against every move Obama makes?

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edgecity Says:

Maybe Kristol dismissed McBush/Romney in Utah presuming Mormons would only vote for a Mormon– so it don’t count!

Nah, never mind.

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JudyLou Says:

Randy @ 28:

I used to think that Dan Quayle chose Kristol to be his Chief-of-Staff because Kristol was obviously superior in intellect to Quayle. Now I realize that Quayle just wanted someone just like him. What a fricken’ maroon.

One doesn’t have to be very damned intellectual to be more so than Quayle.

33
Amitola Says:

He’s just a LIAR, that’s all. Nice photo, though. I see his mouth hasn’t changed much since his youth - everytime I see Bill I wonder what was put in his mouth that stretched it all over his face and made his lips so thin!!??

34
ysbaddaden Says:

Maybe dan quail just wanted to feel smarter than someone.

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ysbaddaden Says:

Amitola @ 33:

He’s just a LIAR, that’s all. Nice photo, though. I see his mouth hasn’t changed much since his youth - everytime I see Bill I wonder what was put in his mouth that stretched it all over his face and made his lips so thin!!??

Smilex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKFeuBfDTso

36
Paul’s Bunions Says:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

I think Hillary is going to take the race all the way to the rules committee and if they don’t see things the way she wants, she will blame her loss on the committee rather than the voters.

What are people like Billy going to do when Obama becomes president in spite of all their carping, lying and exaggerations? Will they immediately start doing hit pieces against every move Obama makes?

Please don’t say, “hit pieces”, I worry bout his safety!

37
justabill Says:

Obama won the Virgin Islands by over 80%. Idaho by over 60%. HI by over 50%. Alaska by 50%, Kansas by 48%, etc..

Amitola @ 33:

He’s just a LIAR, that’s all. Nice photo, though. I see his mouth hasn’t changed much since his youth - everytime I see Bill I wonder what was put in his mouth that stretched it all over his face and made his lips so thin!!??

I really don’t think we want to know the answer to your question. The mental image I’m getting isn’t pretty.

You mean Quayle actually had to search to find someone smarter than he was? He was an embarrassment to the repubs from the moment his name was mentioned by george sr. I remember he quickly took off his coat and started jumping around like he had just been name prom king.

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Biddut Miah Says:

Why does he hate Obama so much?

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Crevass Says:

Sure, the point of the article is completely lost when you take “facts” into account. But, maybe what Kristol was referring to something that means little to us in the reality-based world.

Maybe William the Bloody was actually talking about the number 41, as it might have some Religious Right significance, like 666, or 3:16. It’s true, no has gone onto be the nominee with that EXACT number 41.

Maybe Kristol is making some weird voodoo cosmic connection to the number 41.

Or, he could just be full of sh*t.

Giving Kristol the benefit of the doubt is getting harder and harder. Why does the NYT find it so easy?

41
Liberal AND Proud Says:

“All the fools with shit to print”

Paul’s Bunions @ 36:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

I think Hillary is going to take the race all the way to the rules committee and if they don’t see things the way she wants, she will blame her loss on the committee rather than the voters.

What are people like Billy going to do when Obama becomes president in spite of all their carping, lying and exaggerations? Will they immediately start doing hit pieces against every move Obama makes?

Please don’t say, “hit pieces”, I worry bout his safety!

Sorry! I know what you mean. How about if I said attack pieces?

mudshark @ 25:

Off topic/ Gas prices top 4 bucks a gallon.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12400801

Seemingly off-topic, but the everyday concerns of the average American are something that Kristol will never understand. That’s why the neocons were doomed from the get-go.

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Kyle Says:

Biddut Miah @ 39:

Why does he hate Obama so much?

He’s black.

Blue Lensman @ 8:

Dr. Bitter Hussein Matt @ 4:

He’s probably so heart broken that PNAC has completely failed that he can no longer concentrate.

DM: feel free to keep posting that link as often as you like - I laugh every time :)

I know, me too…..there is a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that this extremist group that was once so influential to herr dubyah’s adminstration is now a complete and utter failure.

46
ysbaddaden Says:

Kyle @ 44:

Biddut Miah @ 39:

Why does he hate Obama so much?

He’s black.

And here I thought krystol(nacht) was Jewish.

47
ysbaddaden Says:

pissed off patricia @ 42:

Paul’s Bunions @ 36:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

I think Hillary is going to take the race all the way to the rules committee and if they don’t see things the way she wants, she will blame her loss on the committee rather than the voters.

What are people like Billy going to do when Obama becomes president in spite of all their carping, lying and exaggerations? Will they immediately start doing hit pieces against every move Obama makes?

Please don’t say, “hit pieces”, I worry bout his safety!

Sorry! I know what you mean. How about if I said attack pieces?

I’m coming Elizabeth!

48
Paul’s Bunions Says:

pissed off patricia @ 42:

Paul’s Bunions @ 36:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

I think Hillary is going to take the race all the way to the rules committee and if they don’t see things the way she wants, she will blame her loss on the committee rather than the voters.

What are people like Billy going to do when Obama becomes president in spite of all their carping, lying and exaggerations? Will they immediately start doing hit pieces against every move Obama makes?

Please don’t say, “hit pieces”, I worry bout his safety!

Sorry! I know what you mean. How about if I said attack pieces?

Still too violent, how about slander or libel!

Dr. Bitter Hussein Matt @ 45:

Blue Lensman @ 8:

Dr. Bitter Hussein Matt @ 4:

He’s probably so heart broken that PNAC has completely failed that he can no longer concentrate.

DM: feel free to keep posting that link as often as you like - I laugh every time :)

I know, me too…..there is a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that this extremist group that was once so influential to herr dubyah’s adminstration is now a complete and utter failure.

I clicked on that link and got a blank page that said, “This account has been suspended”

Ooooooh ….. leave poor Billy alone.

He’s trying to defend our President and status queue. It’s not easy but the news nitworks …… er news networks demand an opposing view and since there is no one from the lunatic fringe that passes as the Bush apologist elite that hasn’t been wrong it’s up to the shameless ……. er, fearless Bill Kristol to carry the torch lit by old bottom tooth himself, William F. Buckley.

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RD Says: