From the Huffington Post:
John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God’s behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.
Going in and out of biblical verse, Hagee preached: “‘And they the hunters should hunt them,’ that will be the Jews. ‘From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.’ If that doesn’t describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can’t see that.”
I wonder if the media will pay as much attention to this as they did Jeremiah Wright?
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It sounds like Hagee hates anyone not a member of his ‘religion’.
He hates catholics and now insinuates that Jews are to be ‘hunted down’?
And McCain is the nominee for what exactly?
McAssenheimer’s BFF id back!
by that logic……I guess I can kill someone right now….because who knows what “good” will come out of it somewhere down the historical line.
What meds is this shit-head on?
If I was McCain, I’d wonder if the votes this racist pig might bring to his party are worth the HUGE cost…
Another sign of GOP desperation? Uh huh…
Well, that preacher has some interesting views/interpretations! I definitely would NOT attribute those scriptures to the Nazis! If only we had another book like the Bible that could give us another focal point to bring all these varying and contradicting Christian ideas together!
I EXPECT Tweety to have this on tonight. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Of course John Gibson will still be playing (along with his hand in his pants) the Wright tapes.
Sadly, statements like Hagee will only result in more reich-wing votes for McBush.
Why is it that God only speaks to right-wing nutbags?
I think most people would agree that this is far more egregious than anything Rev. Wright has said. Yet I’m pretty sure McCain doesn’t agree with what this guy is saying. For us liberals to try and pin these remarks on McCain would be just as bad as the Rev. Wright fiasco and what people were trying to do to Obama. Don’t fall into that trap. We’re better than that. Let’s prove it.
That being said, it’ll be interesting to see how the media handles this.
Boring Scott @ 9:
Because they are… Oh never mind, I will only get into trouble.
BIG AND OILY
and you can start with Hagee… that steamin’ bucket of crap!
Please tell me you’re making this up. If not, the Wanker Hall Of Fame awaits this guy.
discolapin @ 10:
*crickets chirping*
I was going through the channels on my tv the other day, and this bloated tick “hagee” was spewin’ some shit about how george w. bush was appointed by god, and prophesied about in the 19th century. He had a couple of rabbi shills sittin’ with him and they were pitchin’ the shit about the rethuglickin’ party line and support of right wing isreal. The rabbis sat there straight faced while haggee talked this shit about the prophesy of gwb. It’s gaaaawdz laaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhw.
Colbert and Daily Show are off so no hope this makes the air. Real news people are too stupid.
discolapin @ 10:
Nonsense!! We have been better than that for too fucking long. And what has it got us? You have to attack them the only way they understand. IN THEIR FACE WITH THEIR HYPOCRISY.
Attack Hagee, but get the context straight.
This has nothing to do with racism or hatred or anything else. I’m not defending the guy in the least, believe me, but to him and zealots like him, the Jews and Nazis are merely cogs in the Armageddon-Rapture machine. They are actors in a play with a script that is the Bible. They see all of the actions of modern human history as inevitable steps toward the End Times. Hagee’s organization defends Jews and the state of Israel only as a practical matter because they are God’s instrument to take the believers to heaven. He doesn’t care about them as people in the least.
Actually, I hope the McBush Stream Media leaves this issue alone. After two months plus straight of the Wright non-story, it turns out that Obama still leads McCain in November match . Oops.
ZombieOne @ 18:
And you point is?
Boring Scott @ 9:
God doesn’t. Right-wing nutbags only THINK God speaks to them and them alone because they are “special” in their own eyes.
John Hagee needs to go the way of the dinosaur. He’s a heretical kook. And what’s more..anti-Semitic. The ugly side of Christianity rises again, it appears. John Hagee does not speak for all Christians, and many of us want him to STFU.
It’s at times like this when I wish there was a Stalin or Lenin figure willing to deal with these fuckers. John Hagee and his ilk are the American equivalent of the Nazis. We need leftist radicals equivalent to the Communists to stand up, simply because they aren’t going to be satisfied with mere words forever…
Hagee is one sick critter.
“Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will..”
Apparently he was a hell of a dancer as well.
Pol Pot-O-Cheesesauce @ 15:
I caught Hagee on teevee the other night too (on BET of all channels). He was spewin’ some shit too about marriage and how women who “think too much” end up “getting in trouble with GAWD”.
What bothered me the most was that every camera shot of the audience showed them all taking notes - I kid you not. When was the last time you took notes in church?
Hagee is one true sick sumbitch.
Let’s all start trying to make a stronger distinction between “hearing voices” and “hearing the voice of God”. I think the former probably applies in this case.
Captain Bitter Elitist Husein Kangaroo Says:
Nonsense!! We have been better than that for too fucking long. And what has it got us? You have to attack them the only way they understand. IN THEIR FACE WITH THEIR HYPOCRISY.
I’m a little sick of gotcha politics. I’m tired of rolling in the mud with the pigs. The pigs enjoy it too much and you just end up muddy.
Captain Bitter Elitist Husein Kangaroo @ 20:
I guess I should have made that more clear, huh? My point is that as bad as racism is, Hagee’s deal is a hell of a lot scarier to me than any of that could ever be. The man and his followers pray on their knees every night for an escalation of war in the Middle East, and he’s got the ear of some people who have the means to make that escalation happen. Radical Islam and Hagee’s folks are on the same path, if you want to look at it that way.
His followers seem even sicker, BTW
ZombieOne @ 28:
A mutual suicide pact between Iranian Twelver Shias and American Dominionists? Sounds like a bad pulp sci-fi novel!
Right-wing nut jobs are called “right-wing nutjobs” for this exact reason. why does it surprise people when these ding dongs say silly shit? To wit, why should it be surprising that the GOP presumptive nominee chased this fruitcake’s endorsement? Now all we need is for the msm to stop calling the GOP nominee a maverick and follow this lead to it’s bitter end.
ZombieOne @ 18:
Actually, what Hagee pushes is called “Replacement Theology”. They believe that the church has now taken the place given by God to the nation of Israel and Christians are now God’s chosen people. Hagee and his followers are hanging around waiting for the Rapture, which they think will not happen until all of the Jews have returned to Israel and the temple is rebuilt. Then they think they will have a free ride straight up.
There are many things wrong with this interpretation that I won’t bother to go into here. But you are right by saying he and his kind don’t give a flying f*ck about Israel or the Jews. Israel knows this full well, but are willing to go along with the nuts for the time being because they are pushing the Israeli agenda.
Twisted from every angle.
Boring Scott @ 9:
Because they’re more likely to hear voices, or see magical beings than a sane person.
Of course, they could be lying, when they say they see or hear ‘god’, in all his bearded, robe wearing, glory. Neocon crazies lie ALL the time.
‘He sounds just like Charles Heston!’
Such statements are usually followed by, “Do what I told you he said or you’ll burn in hell.”
Bitter Bud @ 25:
I used to shoot b-roll for a friend of mine who has a video production company and a church client, and we were shooting at an ‘evangelical event’ and people were taking notes. I have never done that. BTW, it took a while for my friend to get paid, but he did get his money eventually.
4 Words…Don’t count on it!
The statements “God sent Hitler” and “God loves us all” are not at all contradictory once you set down that path of belief in omnipotent beings that are completely invisible and completely silent. Believers in such things must suffer the consequences that anyone can claim to know the will of invisible and silent beings.
General_Rennenkampf @ 30:
I guess I should have made that more clear, huh? My point is that as bad as racism is, Hagee’s deal is a hell of a lot scarier to me than any of that could ever be. The man and his followers pray on their knees every night for an escalation of war in the Middle East, and he’s got the ear of some people who have the means to make that escalation happen. Radical Islam and Hagee’s folks are on the same path, if you want to look at it that way.
A mutual suicide pact between Iranian Twelver Shias and American Dominionists? Sounds like a bad pulp sci-fi novel!
And you’ve got William Kristol directing, Joe Lieberman writing the script and John McInsane starring in the film adaptation.
Right….and this is the founder of CUFI. Geesh. Yeah, don’t hold your breath on media attention to this FUBAR statement.
Bitter Bud @ 25:
I take notes in church every week. But they are notes on Greek verb tense and reminders to check translations here or to check a fact historically in another section.
Gee, I guess I think too much.
Boring Scott Says: Why is it that God only speaks to right-wing nutbags?
Is it the tongue thing?
Scott Hussein @ 37:
A mutual suicide pact between Iranian Twelver Shias and American Dominionists? Sounds like a bad pulp sci-fi novel!
And you’ve got William Kristol directing, Joe Lieberman writing the script and John McInsane starring in the film adaptation.
If that’s so, McPapen and Lieberman will be among the first to die, once the nukes start flying like Maybugs and Jebus doesn’t show up to rescue them. I’ve heard this suicide pact theory before. It’s looking more and more like the case….
Well, of course they were…If you buy the notion that God controls everything and that every human action is in fact “God’s Will” (I don’t) then you must buy this one too.
I wonder if the media will pay as much attention to this as they did Jeremiah Wright?
AHHHH HA HA HA HA yeahright.
“‘And they the hunters should hunt them,’ that will be the Jews. ‘From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.’
Describes any genocidal activity by man. Dude’s twistin’ logic.
There are some people who will say anything to make money. Professing to be some sort of religious leader is the easiest way in the world to do this. You can spout anything you like about what is going to happen in the future or after death and there is no way in hell anyone can prove you wrong. Plus there are people desperate to believe anything and they will follow these charlatans and hand them money forever if they think it’s going to get them into heaven. By the time death occurs, it’s too late for them to get their money back, plus there are dozens if not hundreds more waiting to go down the same path.
Morning Folks
God must be geeky if he has buddies like Hagee that he hangs and talks with. Falwell was from the same pack, little roundities whith loud mouths who claim to be talking to some spiritual entity. (# Schizophrenia, # Psychosis, # Psychotic depression)
Their holynesses need Tin-Foil-Hats.
Yes, religion rears it’s ugly head again. Screw god, screw religion and screw the religious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 46: