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Bob Shrum shows us why we lose against the media time after time

How many times have major Dem elites been given a chance to tell Russert the truth? He never takes questions on his show and is often brought on NBC and MSNBC to impart his truth to us. Given a chance to finally smack down Tim Russert on MTP with an opening bigger than a super highway to drive his very nice car through, Bob Shrum demonstrates why the liberal elite think it’s more important to kiss the ring of the High Commissioner of the Beltway weenies rather than stick up for the awful treatment Democratic Politicians have received for decades. He may know a lot about politics and the history of the party, but watch and recoil.

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This isn’t about supporting Hillary or Obama because they will turn on Obama versus McCain in due time. In Schrummy’s mind he’d rather let them walk all over Dems, assist in hiding their roll in the process, then dare tell Russert the truth. Hillary Clinton actually took an ad out against Tim Russert and he felt so bad about it, but fear not Tim, you had Schrummy to comfort you and caress you. Please make sure you have me back on the show Mr. Russert, so I can bill many more millions of dollars to another Dem candidate. You see, I have a seat at the table. Don’t let Harold Ford take it from me, Tim, PLEASE!

MR. SHRUM: And if she wants to get mad, she ought to put a picture of Euclid up there, because the problem is the math doesn’t add up. No matter how you do this, this race is fundamentally over. She’s not going to be the Democratic nominee for president, Barack Obama is. And we need to go into a process of healing. And I want to say, on her behalf in the last week, the, the level of the rhetoric has come down, the level of the attacks have come down. She’s making an electability argument. I think she really cares about the Democratic Party, and I hope that, in the end, whether she’s mad at you or not, she can somehow or other help unite this party and move us toward victory in November.

Sure Bob, she shouldn’t be mad at the network over this? Or this one either. The Daily Howler: “Russert Wept:

Is there no decency?This would not stand! Helping us understand “her problem,” Bob Shrum rushed in to succor his friend—to pander, kiss, smooch, fuss and fawn.”

Transcript via MSNBC:

MR. RUSSERT: Tuesday, Oregon and Kentucky, two primaries. Hillary Clinton still campaigning, not against Barack Obama. She is now taking on another group of people, Washington insiders. This was Hillary Clinton on the campaign stump on Saturday.

(Videotape)

SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY): And you know all those people on TV who are telling you and everybody else that this race is over and I should, you know, just be, you know, graceful and say, “Oh, it’s over,” even though I’ve won more votes, those are all people who have a job. Those are all people who have health care. Those are all people who can afford to send their kids to college. Those are all people who can pay whatever is charged at the gas pump. They’re not the people I’m running to be a champion for.

(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: Where’s the love?

MR. MURPHY: You know, I hear…

MR. RUSSERT: She must be talking about James Carville and Rahm Emanuel, because…

MR. SHRUM: No, no. She has a, she has a picture of you in her ad, and I think a picture of George Stephanopoulos. Look, her problem…

MR. RUSSERT: And Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews…

MR. SHRUM: And if she wants to get mad, she ought to put a picture of Euclid up there, because the problem is the math doesn’t add up. No matter how you do this, this race is fundamentally over. She’s not going to be the Democratic nominee for president, Barack Obama is. And we need to go into a process of healing. And I want to say, on her behalf in the last week, the, the level of the rhetoric has come down, the level of the attacks have come down. She’s making an electability argument. I think she really cares about the Democratic Party, and I hope that, in the end, whether she’s mad at you or not, she can somehow or other help unite this party and move us toward victory in November.

MR. RUSSERT: Sister Lucille taught me how to add, that’s my only…\

Many thanks to Bob Somerby for posting this first:

That was stirring stuff! But it started with a Big Dem Consultant running about as fast as he could to take the side of these long-time Democrat-trashers against a Big Major Dem. Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo! he said. Oh pleasepleaseplease, he told his friend. Pleasepleaseplease don’t punish me for the vile things this vile person said!

If she wants to get mad! In that gruesome formulation, Shrum revealed a basic fact about Democratic Party elites: No matter what happens to them or their candidates, they pretty much never get mad. Put more simply: We’ve rarely seen the slightest sign that these people really care about who wins elections. Over the years, Russert has very much earned a butt-whipping from anyone concerned with Dem Party politics. But when Clinton dares to flash his face in one ad, Shrum runs to comfort/console him.

But then, a lot of this is going on as the Democratic campaign winds down. Simple story: Your political world has long been built to hide the role the Russerts play in deciding the fate of Major Dem hopefuls. Career Dems won’t address it; Big Scribes play dumb too. Yesterday, Shrum kissed, smooched, swooned and fawned.

Our Liberal elites are killing us.




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1
Bonkers Hussein Says:

Throw me the idol, I’ll throw you the whip!!!

good thing timmeh doesn’t go to mediamatters.

3
scarlet p. Says:

More fun to just Be The Media.

4
SM Says:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

The DNC and all rank & file Democrats fought for 537 votes, and the MSM drove the GOP message to “give up.”

Now, 2.3 million people are being denied their vote. 2 states! The narrative again is to “give up.”

No.

NO!

If Obama wants votes from Clinton supporters in November, a good way to start is by including the FL & MI votes & full delegates. South Carolina and Iowa also broke the rules, but I don’t see anybody taking their votes away. Not to say this will seal the deal for Obama, as I want him to carry Universal Healthcare too, but it’s a start.

And please, don’t give me “ROOLZ” again. I know them, and they stink and I think anyone that defends denying the votes of 2 states is very unDemocratic and stinks too.

Forgive me for straying off the path for a second but Webb’s GI bill is coming up for a vote today in the senate. I see that Senator Obama is there to vote but I haven’t seen Hillary or McCain. Has anyone else spotted them?

As for punkin head and Shrum, they are on the list of people I yell STFU to on tv. They make noise and if I listen to them them make me furious.

6
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ Says:

The Media doesn’t cover FACT. If they did they would be drumming on these facts.

Osama Bin Ladin is still free.
Bush did exactly what Bin Ladin wanted done, to cripple the American Economy.
Bush did that better than could be imagined.
When Bush came to office Oil was $28 dollars per barrel, it is now $135.00 per barrel and rising. What does bush do, he goes and begs the Saudis to lower the price and then Insults them by talking in a disparaging way about Dictators and Kings.
We’re still in Iraq after more than five years, and instead of the 10 billion dollar estimate we were given it is now up to 850 billion and climbing.

Does McSame have a plan to change this direction?

NO, just the same tired old rhetoric and he wants war with Iran.

7
Tom Southern Says:

I might also offer that shrummie referenced a geometer, not a mathematician. poor triangulation Pissed-off Patricia. Amen

SM @ 4:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

The DNC and all rank & file Democrats fought for 537 votes, and the MSM drove the GOP message to “give up.”

Now, 2.3 million people are being denied their vote. 2 states! The narrative again is to “give up.”

No.

NO!

If Obama wants votes from Clinton supporters in November, a good way to start is by including the FL & MI votes & full delegates. South Carolina and Iowa also broke the rules, but I don’t see anybody taking their votes away. Not to say this will seal the deal for Obama, as I want him to carry Universal Healthcare too, but it’s a start.

And please, don’t give me “ROOLZ” again. I know them, and they stink and I think anyone that defends denying the votes of 2 states is very unDemocratic and stinks too.

The candidates signed a paper saying they would not campaign in Florida. We knew our votes wouldn’t count when we cast them. Senator Clinton did not protest our votes not counting until she discovered she wasn’t a shoo in on super Tuesday. As a Floridian, I am not concerned about my primary vote not counting, the one I am concerned about is the one I will cast again for Senator Obama in November.

I can promise you with all my heart, if the roles were reversed and Senator Obama had more votes in Florida due to the primary, I would feel just as I do now. We knew the rules going in and after the game is over if someone wants to change the rules for future games, that’s fine be me.

And no, I do not stink. I smell rather lovely.

9
Blue Lensman Says:

pop,

Why bother trying to deter SM from making his/her contribution to “Hillary fatigue”?

10
L.A. Confidential Says:

It’s not over though. Even if Obama is leading in Delegates, the process is not legally complete until the votes are officially cast and confirmed at the convention.

I mean face it there really is strange media and politcal manipulation happening here.

Whens the last time a Superbowl was stopped and ended in the late third quarter because one team was ahead? Or a baseball game halted before the game was officially over because a team has a sizable lead?

11
YAYA Says:

hillary agreed to FL and MI deal from the start.
she wouldn’t have an issue with it if she were in the lead.
this is not anything like 2000.

im disliking hillary more and more by the day.
she uses karl rove as a source for her arguments.

im losing faith altogether.
FTW

12
Lollimom Says:

SM @ 4:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

The DNC and all rank & file Democrats fought for 537 votes, and the MSM drove the GOP message to “give up.”

Now, 2.3 million people are being denied their vote. 2 states! The narrative again is to “give up.”

No.

NO!

If Obama wants votes from Clinton supporters in November, a good way to start is by including the FL & MI votes & full delegates. South Carolina and Iowa also broke the rules, but I don’t see anybody taking their votes away. Not to say this will seal the deal for Obama, as I want him to carry Universal Healthcare too, but it’s a start.

And please, don’t give me “ROOLZ” again. I know them, and they stink and I think anyone that defends denying the votes of 2 states is very unDemocratic and stinks too.

You are spreading lies and deceit, just like Hillary Clinton.

As somebody above said, Clinton signed a pledge that she would have her name removed from the ballots in said states.

Most of the other candidates removed their names. Clinton broke her promise and did not. This was her deceitful way of obtaining “insurance” for later on, in the event that she was losing. She is now attempting to cash in on that insurance, which is (in my opinion) malicious.

She is a liar. You are a liar for repeating the same deceit.

Have you no shame whatsoever?

13
L.A. Confidential Says:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 6:

The Media doesn’t cover FACT. If they did they would be drumming on these facts.

Osama Bin Ladin is still free.
Bush did exactly what Bin Ladin wanted done, to cripple the American Economy.
Bush did that better than could be imagined.
When Bush came to office Oil was $28 dollars per barrel, it is now $135.00 per barrel and rising. What does bush do, he goes and begs the Saudis to lower the price and then Insults them by talking in a disparaging way about Dictators and Kings.
We’re still in Iraq after more than five years, and instead of the 10 billion dollar estimate we were given it is now up to 850 billion and climbing.

Does McSame have a plan to change this direction?

NO, just the same tired old rhetoric and he wants war with Iran.

There’s still one major problem Bob
http://tinyurl.com/2natgf

14
CEO,citizens,eyes,open Says:

Talk softly, carry a big stick up your ass, then ask them for your balls back. Shrump.–CEO

15
YAYA Says:

i used to defend hillary, but she has made the job impossible

16
Samson- Says:

with all do respect… fuck off mr. shrum.

you are part of the problem.

and not just in america. your stink is now international.

please, retire and take your merry band of “advisors”, “plotters”, “strategists”, otherwise known as neoliberal-corporatists, away with you. settle down, relax, take it easy, just get out of politics, you and your ilk are poisonous.

17
rekroc Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 10:

It’s not over though. Even if Obama is leading in Delegates, the process is not legally complete until the votes are officially cast and confirmed at the convention.

I mean face it there really is strange media and politcal manipulation happening here.

Whens the last time a Superbowl was stopped and ended in the late third quarter because one team was ahead? Or a baseball game halted before the game was officially over because a team has a sizable lead?

Well, this isn’t a sporting event. But as long as we’re mentioning irrelevant analogies here, how about a TKO in boxing?

18
Bonkers Hussein Says:

Blue Lensman @ 9:

pop,

Why bother trying to deter SM from making his/her contribution to “Hillary fatigue”?

Yes, and despite SM’s self-reported bona fides as a politically engaged citizen (which are impressive and I have no reason not to believe), SM can’t seem to get over the fact that no matter how we slice it, the problem with what to do with the votes of MI and FL is a mess, largely of their own creation, and additionally, that no one is actively trying to take away anyone else’s votes. I have seen SM’s posts on the matter at least 2 or 3 other times and my sympathy wears thin.

19
YAYA Says:

the MSM keeps touting mcsame’s area of expertise is foreign diplomacy.
the keep repeating that meme with his name.

its a TOTAL FABRICATION.

mcsame is a liar

20
L.A. Confidential Says:

rekroc @ 17:

L.A. Confidential @ 10:

It’s not over though. Even if Obama is leading in Delegates, the process is not legally complete until the votes are officially cast and confirmed at the convention.

I mean face it there really is strange media and politcal manipulation happening here.

Whens the last time a Superbowl was stopped and ended in the late third quarter because one team was ahead? Or a baseball game halted before the game was officially over because a team has a sizable lead?

Well, this isn’t a sporting event. But as long as we’re mentioning irrelevant analogies here, how about a TKO in boxing?

Face it. The media-others are trying to make her quit so they can roll out the neocon mega cannons asap on Obama before the Dem party actually has a chance to unite.

21
Obly Says:

Bob Shrum actually is the kind of egghead, pansy-ass weenie that repubs are talking about when they decry all Dems as liberal elites we should despise. How did that Gore campaign turn out for you anyway, Shrummy?

As politically intelligent as the Clintons are, I don’t for the life of me know why they didn’t realize and accept that the Dem establishment is broken, and have Hillary stop running as the establishment candidate. It’s likely as much Obama’s anti-establishment counter-culture approach to campaigning as anything else that got him to where he is now.

22
Ron Says:

McSaMe

23
Ben Says:

AHH! So many lies! Obama, Clinton and Mccain just can’t keep all their lies straight! It just goes to show that dishonesty always catches up to you in the end.

24
Samson- Says:

“Our Liberal elites are killing us.”

liberal? shrum? never would have guessed. he has worked so hard stiffling the voices of the people, spinning shit professionally, i am surprised anyone would consider him a liberal. unless that was snark.

neoliberal, yes.

25
YAYA Says:

i would like a beer distribution license. mcsame has one.
he’s a repug. what about the free market?
the MSM sucks…..they fabricate a fairy tale narrative.
they should all meet the guillotine!!!

26
Bonkers Hussein Says:

btw SM,

I am looking up articles about SC and Iowa. Any info you have would be helpful.

(are we getting OT?)

27
SM Says:

pissed off patricia @ 8:

SM @ 4:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

The DNC and all rank & file Democrats fought for 537 votes, and the MSM drove the GOP message to “give up.”

Now, 2.3 million people are being denied their vote. 2 states! The narrative again is to “give up.”

No.

NO!

If Obama wants votes from Clinton supporters in November, a good way to start is by including the FL & MI votes & full delegates. South Carolina and Iowa also broke the rules, but I don’t see anybody taking their votes away. Not to say this will seal the deal for Obama, as I want him to carry Universal Healthcare too, but it’s a start.

And please, don’t give me “ROOLZ” again. I know them, and they stink and I think anyone that defends denying the votes of 2 states is very unDemocratic and stinks too.

The candidates signed a paper saying they would not campaign in Florida. We knew our votes wouldn’t count when we cast them. Senator Clinton did not protest our votes not counting until she discovered she wasn’t a shoo in on super Tuesday. As a Floridian, I am not concerned about my primary vote not counting, the one I am concerned about is the one I will cast again for Senator Obama in November.

I can promise you with all my heart, if the roles were reversed and Senator Obama had more votes in Florida due to the primary, I would feel just as I do now. We knew the rules going in and after the game is over if someone wants to change the rules for future games, that’s fine be me.

And no, I do not stink. I smell rather lovely.

Patricia, so then why did you vote if you felt that way? I know what I thought when I voted, I said to myself “eventually it will work itself out and my vote will count in the end.”

Well, the end has come. Voters did not make up the rules. And if we are going to stick by the rules, then Iowa & South Carolina should also be penalized for moving their dates up as well. But see, that’s not happening because Obama won those states and that’s what makes it so infuriating and unfair.

Rules also said that if a candidate withdraws his/her name from a ballot, that candidate is not entitled to any delegates or popular votes cast in “Uncommitted.”

PS: Obama ran national ads that aired in FL. Technically, he campaigned here. So rules were broken on his behalf. And he may lose all of his FL delegates because whether it was intentional or not, ROOLZ ARE ROOLZ.

We fought hard for 537 votes, fought for Ohio votes in 2004, and we’re not going to fight for 2 states worth of votes? What is happening to our Democracy? Did I just wake up in 1950s Soviet Union all of a sudden?

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Bonkers Hussein @ 26:

btw SM,

I am looking up articles about SC and Iowa. Any info you have would be helpful.

(are we getting OT?)

David Cook wins ‘American Idol’ by 12 million votes.

Daves dominating the voting news this morning.

Maybe later the MSM will cover Bo or Hill.

29
SM Says:

Lollimom @ 12:

SM @ 4:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

The DNC and all rank & file Democrats fought for 537 votes, and the MSM drove the GOP message to “give up.”

Now, 2.3 million people are being denied their vote. 2 states! The narrative again is to “give up.”

No.

NO!

If Obama wants votes from Clinton supporters in November, a good way to start is by including the FL & MI votes & full delegates. South Carolina and Iowa also broke the rules, but I don’t see anybody taking their votes away. Not to say this will seal the deal for Obama, as I want him to carry Universal Healthcare too, but it’s a start.

And please, don’t give me “ROOLZ” again. I know them, and they stink and I think anyone that defends denying the votes of 2 states is very unDemocratic and stinks too.

You are spreading lies and deceit, just like Hillary Clinton.

As somebody above said, Clinton signed a pledge that she would have her name removed from the ballots in said states.

Most of the other candidates removed their names. Clinton broke her promise and did not. This was her deceitful way of obtaining “insurance” for later on, in the event that she was losing. She is now attempting to cash in on that insurance, which is (in my opinion) malicious.

She is a liar. You are a liar for repeating the same deceit.

Have you no shame whatsoever?

You are the one that doesn’t have all the truth and NO I am not a liar!

Candidates had the option to remove their names from the ballot. Obama & Edwards did that to get more points in Iowa & NH.

Clinton and Kucinich were on the MI ballot because they chose to stay on. So when you have some truth in your pocket, please share it with us.

30
no longer a proud american Says:

a little off topic, but dang this has to be pushed at every opportunity: What does middle america understand, what will make them wake up and vote for a change, how do you get them to comprehend that there is a bigger picture, how do you get them to know that GW is not their friend, he is not the one you would walk down to the corner bar to have a drink with, he is the one who would send your kids off to die in his war for his cause. How do you get them to understand that. The answer my friend is not blowing in the wind, it’s at the gas pump. when a previous poster stated that gas was at $28 dollars a barrel at the beginning of king george’s term and now it’s pushing $135 which equates to over $4 a gallon, now that’s language that the heartland can understand. if the dems wait for the conservatives to sugarcoat it, the dems will lose. They need to go on the offensive with soundbites of gas pump woes. put it in small simple easy to understand words and language and use golly and shucks a lot. I guarantee it will blow the republicans and this whole lot of crooked politicians out of the water. Don’t wait. Go on the offensive.

31
rekroc Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 20:

rekroc @ 17:

L.A. Confidential @ 10:

It’s not over though. Even if Obama is leading in Delegates, the process is not legally complete until the votes are officially cast and confirmed at the convention.

I mean face it there really is strange media and politcal manipulation happening here.

Whens the last time a Superbowl was stopped and ended in the late third quarter because one team was ahead? Or a baseball game halted before the game was officially over because a team has a sizable lead?

Well, this isn’t a sporting event. But as long as we’re mentioning irrelevant analogies here, how about a TKO in boxing?

Face it. The media-others are trying to make her quit so they can roll out the neocon mega cannons asap on Obama before the Dem party actually has a chance to unite.

There are many, many ordinary people who think Hillary should quit, not just the media. She’s done quite a bit of aiming her own mega-cannons at Obama and now at the Democratic party in general. She’s done more to align herself with McCain than Obama over the past several months.

It’s impossible for her to win this, yet she won’t back off. If she really has the best interests of FL and MI in mind, then she can certainly continue to “fight” for them from the sidelines.

The Clintons are pissing away their legacy as the most revered name in Democratic politics since the Kennedys.

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Lollimom Says:

SM @ 29:

You are the one that doesn’t have all the truth and NO I am not a liar!

Candidates had the option to remove their names from the ballot. Obama & Edwards did that to get more points in Iowa & NH.

Clinton and Kucinich were on the MI ballot because they chose to stay on. So when you have some truth in your pocket, please share it with us.

In reading the other comments here, it appears you have issues with the truth and with your pro-Clinton love affair.

I said she signed a pledge that she would remove her name. A promise she made, in writing. Unlike the other candidates, she broke that promise. She can’t be trusted; she is a liar.

Kucinich himself said that his name was on the ballot ONLY because of a process/staff glitch.

I’ll not argue with you anymore, because I do believe you are a liar and that you are fully aware of the facts. A person can’t be a regular on this blog without knowing the facts by now.

33
dosido Says:

I don’t think I can watch Eyes Wide Shut pundit sex on my teevee

34
Underground Pirate Says:

Hillary and Bill need to go join the Republican party. They are totally duplicitous! They represent the wealthy class while pretending to
serve everybody. We need to shut the wealthy creeps down for good this time. Eliminate all corporate lobbying and reinstate time limits
on corporate charters.

35
SM Says:

Bonkers Hussein @ 26:

btw SM,

I am looking up articles about SC and Iowa. Any info you have would be helpful.

(are we getting OT?)

I’d be glad to, here they are:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI.....index.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb.....08-09.html

From the NY Times:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.....y-shuffle/

South Carolina Democrats are worried that if the Republicans vote before they do, voters will think the election is over, the media carnival and the candidates will move on, and Democratic voters won’t turn out 10 days later. So state Democrats expect to ask the Democratic National Committee to let them join the Republicans and vote on Jan. 19. The national party would then have to approve the move.

36
slippy hussein toad Says:

SM @ 4:

The crazy thing is that the same MSM that is love with Obama, is the same MSM that crucified Gore in 2000, and the same is happening today with MI & FL votes not being included.

Hillary will accept losing and will walk away if she loses fair & square, but not by denying 2.3 million people for their voice to be counted.

Hilla