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By Mike Finnigan Tuesday May 27, 2008 10:00amSenate Guru: Senate Republicans call our troops unpatriotic.
David Seaton's News Links: Eric Stone's story: "Me and Obama's Mama"
Comments from Left Field: On the outs with his former neocon buddies for the past seven years, Francis Fukuyama endorses Obama.
No More Mister Nice Blog: ZOMG! He said "Auschwitz" instead of "Buchenwald"!!! More molehill politics from wingnut bloggers who want to make sure the Red Army gets their props.
The G Spot: The last days of Bear Stearns.
MediaBloodhound: Why is it verboten in mainstream Memorial Day coverage to acknowledge relevant realities?
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It's all lies and deception now. . . Pete Townsend
a Fukuyama endorsement for obama?
oof.... don't except it, reject it.
The right wing is so sorry. Auschwitz, Bucenwald...go and ask a holocaust survivor what's the fucking difference. Looking for the most minute, insignificant error by Obama. His story and the point Obama made concerning "Post depression" are both true. All of you righty losers hiding behind the bushes pouncing on Obama for this bullshit, are scared because you know you've got NOTHING. "Hey, Obama's wearing Italian shoes! He's UnAmerican!" Desperate fucks. LOL.
Left&Left @ 3:
What do you mean the the MSM is handing Obama to people on a silver platter.
Why do rethug senators HATE our troops? RETENTION? Why would anyone want to reenlist after their active duty requirements have been met?
I'm just glad to know that that Senator Obama has no interest in accompanying McCain to Iraq. It would be wrong for so many reasons.
Left&Left @ 3:
ya know, i was watching hardball (call me a glutton) last night and matthews, in one of his 'roundtable discussions' had on a guest from the washpost (sorry, his name is one the tip of my tongue) who compared the "Auschwitz/Buchenwald" statement to a mccain statement. he said that these minor gaffes should be ignored, etc. he compared it to mccain's repeated confusion between sunni and shia. the fact that a "respected" news outlet, like the washpost, would conflate and compare these 2 incomparable statements is scary and depressing.
one has direct and dire ramifications and consequences on current, and future affairs. the other doesn't.
why does the press let mccain continue to portray himself as a 'national security' candidate when he continual proves his ignorance and confusion?
If you weren't familiar with the state of our country today, you need look no further than the political party quickly losing favor. Those greedy criminals known as "republicans" have sunk to new lows in terms of the popularity of their platform and policies. And what is really the problem?
It's only the public's perception of the republican "brand".
pissed off patricia @ 6:
yes, it would be.
and, any idea, ANY IDEA, floated by lindsey graham should be taken out back and shot.
Dr. Acula @ 5:
I do not think rethug senators hate the IDF. I actually think they admire them.
I sure as hell wouldn't call any soldier who wants to walk away from this war in Iraq, unpatriotic. Hell, they were sent there based on a lie by their commander in chief. Sending soldiers into a war under false pretenses should be illegal if it isn't already.
when are the obama supporters going to hold him accountable for his statements? or insist he do the right thing? why isnt he for withdrawing from iraq and afganistan ? his statement saying he cant promiss that all troops will be taken out of there by the end of his first term , sounds like hes going to go for the victory there that bush couldnt get, in that respect obama doesnt sound any different then clinton, both give the same speaches to the same people , and both say the same things , not a dimes worth of difference between them!
Samson- @ 9:
I agree about Graham. You can just see how the McCain campaign would play this. The elderly Senator shows the much younger Senator around Iraq and explains to him how the surge is working for our American military. A military that the much younger Senator has never felt the need to join.
I almost threw up just typing that scenario.
L.A. Confidential @ 4:
The psychology of jealously never ceases to amaze me. Where have you been? Rev. Wright? Bitter comments? Flag pins? Ignorant to the soul racist white voters Obama can't (and will never) win over? Dude, lay off the hallucinogens and stop trying to imitate Juan Williams.
Dem lawyers: Fla., Mich. can't be fully restored.
Why the DNC keeps insisting on shooting itself in the foot, I don't know.
All the troops can't be taken out of Iraq on the same day, it's just not possible. Also the withdrawal must be done carefully so that some small groups of troops aren't left there as sitting ducks. It's going to be tricky for sure. But we gotta start somewhere and the sooner, the better.
tyree @ 12:
What? Last I heard there were several 10's of 1,000,000's worth of difference between the two ;)
McCain offering to go to Iraq with Obama? Is he going to be surrounded by BlackHawks and hundreds of our soldiers? Is Graham going to whisper in his ear again? Damn. I'm going into a funk again!
Left&Left @ 14:
Where have I been? Looking at the facts while you've been guzzling the Kool Aid.
Obama is NOT going to enforce fiscal discipline on these guys.
Only Clinton has the will, experience, and clout to do that.
tyree @ 12:
the truly anti-war, anti-corporate-domination, anti-neoliberal, anti-US imperialism candidates all dropped out.
we are left with the "safe" candidates, of which, for me, obama is the only choice. i'm not the biggest obama fan, just a process of elimination. and i would never vote a rethug, nor a clinton (again). i could have been convinced to vote for hillary about 6 months ago. now, i could not nor would not ever vote for her.
Alittle help fromCode Pink:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/05/code-pink-hits-orange-county....
Yeah, the MSM didn't say a word about Senator Obama being an "elitist". Instead they said a zillion words about that and Wright and Obama's middle name, and his religion, and his flag pin and was he black enough/white enough, things his wife said and even whether or not he threw his granny under the bus.
L.A. Confidential @ 19:
Obama has run a far more "discipline" campaign compared to Hillary. Hillary's "fiscal discipline" has made her camp pennyless. I respect you man. Let's just agree to disagree.
tyree @ 12:
You can't simply pull all the troops out en masse. It isn't anywhere near a reasonable concept. I am completely against this war but Bush was stupid getting us into it and we need to be smart getting out.
I don't know if troops should be pulled out of Afghanistan. Other than they are protecting oil pipelines, I want more information about what their goals are before pulling them out. Some honest information - something that has been anything but forthcoming from this admin.
Live Frankly
People, lets stop the fueding and fussing. A Democrat has to win or we're screwed. If McCain gets in, the middle class won't survive. The man has lobbyists up to his armpits. That's all we need, another 4 years of Bush economics. Christ! I shudder at the thought!
P.D. @ 25:
Amen!
Samson- @ 20:
LOL your an Official Obamatron now.
Media Bloodhounds brings home the point that I had attempted to make yesterday on another post, which is that, despite what so many Americans seem to believe, American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan should not be considered heroes but rather victims of a government who continues to use them as cannon fodder for their own nefarious ends. The true heroes of this country are those who have said NO to the U.S. war machine, such as Lt. Watada, Camilo Mejia, Kevin Benderman, and others who belong to the IVAW [Iraq Veterans Against the War]. They recognize that the United States is wrong in having invaded and occupied Iraq and Afghanistan and having committed countless atrocities against the citizens of those countries.
Support the troops. Bring them home-ALL of them-now.
P.D. @ 25:
Better prepare for McCain regardless. The DNC is so screwing things up so bad it's probably beyond hope and the convention is still months away.
We may be feuding like the Hatfields and McCoys but come November we will all be Hatfields or McCoys. I'm pretty sure of that.
MsJoanne @ 24:
when we were thru with viet nam we left fast , and its no different in iraq, unless your willing to see four more yrs of flag drapped coffins comeing home, it should take no more then one and a half yrs even if we take our time withdrawing , as for afganistan whats the incentive for staying ? havent we killed enough afgans in the name of 911? how many more will be enough payback? afganistan was only a subterfuge bush used it for a springboard to get us into iraq? meanwhile the cia has used afganistan for bringing cocain into the us to get more americans hooked on dope and for the profits, oh and as you said the pipe line,
Yeah LA, Leave it up to the Democrats to totally screw it up. Are they afraid of winning? Or are they just to spineless?
L.A. Confidential @ 27:
By your logic, LAC, you must be an official Hillbot.
MsJoanne @ 24:
If one acknowledges that it is the U.S. presence that is inflaming the insurgency in Iraq, then it makes absolutely no sense to keep U.S. troops in Iraq. Also, the last thing that the 2 percent of the terrorists who are in Iraq wish to see happen is for the U.S. to actually leave Iraq [said the spider to the fly], since the U.S. presence in Iraq is the best recruiting tool that the terrorists could ever have wished for.
Your instinct about Afghanistan is correct. The only reason the U.S. is in Afghanistan is to protect that oil pipeline which runs from Central Asia to the Caspian Sea. The bottom line is that the U.S. has no business being in either Iraq or Afghanistan. It should also be remembered that the supposed anti-war candidate, Barack Obama, wishes to leave close to 100,000 troops either in Iraq or in the region, even after his phased [not immediate] withdrawal is finally completed. He also wishes to leave a significant amount of troops in Afghanistan. Advocating that 100,000 American soldiers should remain in Iraq and Afghanistan is certainly not the best way of supporting the troops, now is it?
It should also be acknowledged that these misguided proposals of Obama will never win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi and Afghani people.
Support the troops, Bring them home-ALL of them-now.
L.A. Confidential @ 27:
i have given you the benefit of the doubt so many times, and i have not tried to label you over the months and years i have read your posts. i thought you were better than such simple-minded BS. you completely ignored, or didn't read, the rest of my post. no, you simply read what fit into your simplistic viewpoint and went for the quick jab. thanks for that.
P.D. @ 32:
Slow motion train wreck.
The Tough Sell That Obama Will Have To Make
Is anybody watching Bush's speech to the Air Force Academy? Either he's got a really bad head cold, or he's been dipping into the sauce again.
Pericles, It's probably the only place Bush is welcome. Everyone else flees from him. Except McCain, but only behind closed doors and for money.
pissed off patricia @ 16:
When our troops start leaving, they'll stop shooting.
Wow, some wacky stories today!
Comments from Left Field: On the outs with his former neocon buddies for the past seven years, Francis Fukuyama endorses Obama.
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Actually, for some inordinate reason, I fail to find it comforting that any neoconservative has endorsed Obama, whether on the outs with his former buddies from Bush and Co. or no -- just as I have failed to find it comforting when a couple of the neconservative pundits such as William Kristol have spoken in praise of Clinton.
Fukuyama is still one of the founding members of PNAC (Project for a New American Century), and many of his fellow founders -- Cheney, Libby, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz -- were instrumental in helping to bring about the War In Iraq. To my way of thinking, unless or until Fukuyama publicly recants the principles of PNAC, he's just the same as any other neoconservative and not to be trusted.
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