Hillary Clinton’s speech transcript
Hillary Clinton won the Democratic nominating contest in Puerto Rico on Sunday, but still badly trails front-runner Barack Obama as he draws closer to clinching the party’s presidential nomination.
Clinton’s win in Puerto Rico, a territory where residents are not allowed to vote in the November election, gave her more fuel for her argument that she has won more popular votes and is the best Democrat to face Republican John McCain.
But the results pushed Obama closer to the magic number of 2,118 delegates needed to become the nominee, and the Illinois senator already has turned his attention to a general election fight with McCain.
Two contests on Tuesday in Montana and South Dakota, with 31 pledged delegates to the August nominating convention at stake, conclude the voting in the Democratic presidential race.
According to CNN, the delegate count is 38 for Clinton; 17 for Obama.
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Who is this Clinton lady and why does she think she can be president?
whoop dee doo, just delaying the inevitable. obama’s ahead by over a hundred delegates. she can’t beat him.
Puerto Rico is kind of like a children’s primary. The opinions aren’t really taken seriously, and the hope is that when they grow up (into a real state or a country), they’ll have some “experience.”
Just so I can get this straight, after the ruling on MI and FL, is there still a mathematical chance for her to win?
DavidtheDuke @ 4:
yes but no
Gary @ 1:
Because she’s been married to one>
so Obama needs
6851 delegates.DavidtheDuke @ 4:
Her chances are the same as ever- NONE.
She should run for president of Puerto Rico.
fiver @ 6:
and that’s how they planned it. she tried to be co-president and sponsor a healthcare plan and was toasted for it.
Womentum
from: http://observer.com/2008/popul.....-made-easy
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 7:
46 now.
Why do I anticipate crying ahead?
Obama is still 49 “regular” delegates short, so assuming he wins both Montana
and S. Dakota on Tuesday(with a total of 28 delegates), he would be short by
21 delegates even if he won both States by 100 percent to zero…nada gona
happen that way however. So, as I see it, he will win both States and probably
gain about 18 delegates out of the 28; still leaving him of the “regular” delegates
needed. Now will come into play the Uncommited “Super Delegates” and, so
America, the Dem nominee will not be decided by us(the voters), but by partisian
Super Delegates.
She just doesn’t get it. She could cleanse the nation and herself with one simple statement.
I was wrong, I’m sorry. I didn’t know that Iraq’s military spending and buildup was 1/1000th of ours.
this whole process is ridiculous. someone explain to me why the primaries and general election shouldn’t be decided by popular vote?
Doggiebobo @ 12:
that is SO complicated!
I’ll just accept that Obama needs 51 or 48 or 46 or 48-28=21? or whatever the heck!
James Kain @ 14:
power brokers
Obama could also cleanse the Nation and himself with one simple statement.
Yes I was knowingly involved with the illegal activities now known as operation board games, I throw myself on the mercy of the court and swear I will fully co-operate with federal investigators to aid in prosecuting the remainder of my corrupt friends in the Chicago area.
12 Doggiebobo Says: Obama is still 49 “regular” delegates short, so assuming he wins both Montana
and S. Dakota on Tuesday(with a total of 28 delegates), he would be short by
21 delegates even if he won both States by 100 percent to zero…nada gona
happen that way however. So, as I see it, he will win both States and probably
gain about 18 delegates out of the 28; still leaving him of the “regular” delegates
needed. Now will come into play the Uncommited “Super Delegates” and, so
America, the Dem nominee will not be decided by us(the voters), but by partisian
Super Delegates.
And from what I heard today, there are about 200 uncommitted super-delegates. My guess is Obama will probably win the fray, but if we complain about rubber-stamping congresses, we should also be annoyed by rubber-stamping nominations.
If it does come to a convention I’m not so sure that’s a bad thing. That will draw FREE media attention to the arguments against boosh as well as mcpoopypants. It will also add to the historicity of this election between the first viable black candidate, female candidate, and the oldest candidate (in the other party.)
Looks like she had a good time in PR.
Thoses folks respect and are loyal to the Clintons.
Here, there are hated.
Sad.
Looking at the election process from Australia, the view is bonkers (weird in Oz speak). I would imagine that a lot of people would have a hard time calling the US of A a democracy.
16 CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory
Actually, technically no.
Parties used to nominate regular party types like a Rutherford B Hayes or William Harrison with little or no input from the average citizen.
These were deals cut in backrooms.
But until FDR’s Fireside Speeches, the president wasn’t as well known to the public as local politicians. He was just a picture in the post office along with the 10 Most Wanted.
If we didn’t have super-delegates to decide this imbroglio how else would we determine the outcome of such a contest?
James Kain @ 14:
…if you do the math on an antique abacus held at a 45 degree angle on the night of a full moon standing directly behind a moss draped poplar tree at midnight - then Hillary wins the popular vote!
So of course that is what we should do. We should not, but any stretch of the imagination play this out by the established and agreed upon rules. That would obviously be wrong. If you can’t see why that would be wrong you are a misogynist, chauvinistic sexist
5/31/08
So, the new magic number for the nomination, according to Chuck Todd, is 2118 for Obama. Our presumptive nominee will reach that benchmark in the next three or four days. Here are the projections via Jed:
Chuck Todd’s quick math is that Obama is now 65 delegates away. Less the 43 Todd predicts for the next three primaries, Barack would need just 22 delegates to hit the magic number. If he gets those before Tuesday, Montana will put him over the top. I’d bet heavily in favor of him getting all the superdelegates he needs to seal the deal on Tuesday evening.
Why does this all have to be so complicated? Isn’t there a simpler way?
POdVet @ 17:
Interesting, http://www.countercurrents.org/pringle070408.htm
I wouldn’t put it in the same tier as authorizing invasion or war crimes, but interesting.
ysbaddadan@18: Exactly my point. Super delegates are, in my humble opinion,
unconstitutional. ALL votes should count equally. No one vote should count more than another in our country. These tactics seem to be a ploy to take away from
the will of the majority. But, that’s the current system, and now we will just have
to wait and see.
Clinton is only ahead in popular vote if you count Michigan’s votes for Clinton and award exactly ZERO Michigan votes to Obama. She is only ahead in the popular vote if you discount the caucuss states. She is only ahead in the popular vote if you accept assumption upon assumption and piles of her distorted, scheming logic. She wasn’t talking popular vote in January, was she? There has not been some grand movement since the 2000 election to move to a popular vote system, has there? Obama has won the popular vote (which is nice) but he’s also won the Delegates (which is what counts).
Hillary is not ahead in popular vote and will not be the nominee - period - end of discussion.
James Kain @ 14:
Because some states have caucuses, and even the laws governing irrational numbers can’t explain Hillarithmetic.
POdVet @ 17:
Keep on focusing on the spec in Obama’s eye while ignoring the industrial grade 2-ton stainless steel H-beam in your queen’s eye.
Clinton is determined to destroy the Democratic Party’s chances of winning this election. I can’t decide whether it’s because she wants to maintain the relevance of the DLC over the rest of the party, or because she’s actually just a Republican. Subtle difference, but there you go.
The uncommitted super delegates should be told there is a deadline when they must declare their support to a candidate. This is getting wierder and wierder. Especially if there are 200 super delegates who have not said which candidate they support. Where are Pelosi, Reid, Dean, Gore and 196 others???
The exit polls are particularly interesting… (url)
especially: voters by age (look at the senior citizens) and by education
no, i agree with you. this is the most corny system to begin with, but then when people don’t get their way, they start bitching and moaning about people’s rights…. I never heard anything about “Those poor Floridians!” once until the numbers started getting tight.
Surprised she isn’t pushing for an “ultradelegate” Here’s the new rule- the most recent Democratic president is now a delegate with the voting power of 500 regular delegates. But the good news, now the Democratic party is making me a genuine “nanodelegate” with the voting powers of one billionth of a normal delegate. Long live the royal family!
memyself @ 22:
Maybe there will be enough superdelegates declare on Monday and Tuesday, and then hopefully Obama will get put over by either a SD or Montana win. Then he can declare the nomination won by the voters. I just want it to stop.
Democrats making fun of the votes of the American citizens in Puerto Rico is really going to help
Barack Obama….”The Great Uniter”
Obama people. They have like this teflon armor-skin that deflects constructive criticism.
POdVet @ 17:
CNN decide not to wait.
Wait a minute! What’s that popping sound I hear?
Maybe it’s this guy’s head exploding. Far as I have experience this guy is a model Obama supporter….
Now we are gonna see just how tough Barkey is.
duck @ 31:
But the Magic Man will bring out all those ‘new voters’ and swamp the Rethugs! What a diseased fantasy; as Jeralyn at TalkLeft showed the other day Obama only wins when, like the good Republican he is, the vote is suppressed.
A.Citizen @ 35:
The theory is that if Reagan and GWBush can be President without a glimmer of intelligence, then surely the “intelligent” Obama can do the job as well.
Today (after the entire debacle in the RBC Saturday), I actually had to walk out of the room so I wouldn’t have to hear Hillary Clinton speaking. I am so sick of her feeling “entitled” to the Presidency. I am also so sick of people trying to defend the virtues of this woman (i.e. Ickes, McCaulliffe) as if she is blameless for what has gone on during the entire Primary process. And that means ignoring what she said and did during her campaigning.
Hell, I’ve tried. But, it can’t be overlooked. And it was even worse today when McCauliffe was interviewed on MSNBC and said that Hillary was a power broker with voting blocks of “the Blue Collar Workers, Latinos, (white)women, etc.”
Being a person of color, it fascinates me that he left out black people. It was as if he was saying that Black folks don’t count in Hillary’s march to the convention. And that, qualified it to me that she means to throw us under the bus pretty much in the same fashion as Lani Guinier and Joceyln Elders.
I wonder how Stephanie Tubbs Jones can look at herself in the mirror for supporting this woman (and I like Rep. Tubb Jones, too). How can she ignore the contempt dripping from the lips of Mrs. Clinton and her handlers?
I know I can’t ignore it, especially after Sen. Clinton’s condescending remarks and behavior concerning Sen. Obama.
Today’s win might has well just be there to only continue this “dog and pony” show because of Hillary Clinton’s refusal to take a forthright stand in this entire mess. I’m beginning to think that she doesn’t have a conscience.
L.A. Confidential @ 37:
That’s a ridiculous comparison if I’ve ever saw one- for reasons I shouldn’t even have to point out.
Again, I’m seeing people who didn’t have their nominee win hiss and moan as we sputter towards McSame 2008. Obama wasn’t my first, second, or even third choice, but I see the writing on the wall and I’m going to support the man and help my country.
The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein @ 38:
Poor Baby
L.A. Confidential @ 37:
Uh-huh…problem with that idea is that Barkey keeps telling stories about his non-existent ‘Unca Vanya’. And the worst thing about that incident in Las Cruces was there was no apparent point to the story. Does the Magic Man really think the Jewish folk is FL will vote for him? On a purely pragmatic basis that’s bordering on delusional. Short Form: I have called Barkey ‘Senator Dopey’ and no….
I’m not kidding.
L.A. Confidential @ 34:
There’s something valuable in a presidential primary vote of people ineligible to vote in a presidential election?
Oh, and I didn’t see Reagan or Bush as editor of the their law review. Obama is not lacking in the brains department.
James Kain @ 39:
Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II.
Barrys not going to win if he keeps on insisting on throwing this block of votes under the bus like their disposable trash.
He better start doing some serious Uniting. REAL SERIOUS.
i found this AP video earlier today… incredible…
Clinton Backers Rally, Say Party Is Split
http://video.ap.org/v/default......201fg=tool
if the last clintonista is typical, i want nothin’ to do with it… “no unification, howard dean!”…
whew…
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btw, i found it after reading this statement from Fr. Pfleger
http://www.suntimes.com/lifest.....8.article#
fiver @ 42:
We’ll find out.