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Nicole Belle on Sunday, June 1st, 2008 at 10:20 AM - PDT
Yesterday, MoveOn launched a petition calling on former White House press secretary Scott McClellan to donate the proceeds from his new book to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. This morning on NBC’s Meet the Press, McClellan promised to give a portion of the profits to these men and women.
It’s not all, but a portion. However, without giving McClellan too much credit, it’s a damn sight more than any other Bush administration official has done.
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Which portion? The portion that’s included in his tax bill?
That was quick.
“Portion” - could mean very little. And I think he was forced to do it. The McClellan boys don’t do good deeds.
Scotty’s brother - didn’t he try to destroy Medicare?
Well, you don’t actually know that. It doesn’t have to be publicly done.
McClellan? Screw him. If he’s actually trying to right some wrong, fine. If not, fine. I’m glad the books out there so a few more people will turn from these awful people.
“To protect the environment, a certain percent of each newspaper is made out of recycled materials!”
“What percent is that?”
“Zero. What? Zero’s a percent!”
scotty’s wanting to run for something after this is over. Good move. He’s still a tool, but he’s trying to seperate himself from the Bushies to get in the Bush hating side of the republican party.
Meet the Press was awful this morning to McCllelan, grilling and eating him up.
Russert was trying to make a point that he was not involved in Plame affair. This should clear Russert’s name. Why did Russert do a poor job in selling the war to the American people? He is hypocritical and is a pandering republican.
In retrospect, I think the president may have planted McCllelan to confess for his/Rove’s misdeeds. Or McCllelan is sincere in trying to clear his conscience.
What are you talking about? You want to talk about sacrifice?
George W. Bush Jr. said he gave up golf.
For a Republican, that’s, like, 2 arms and 1 leg.
I don’t think Scottie could donate 100%. Me thinks he’s probably going to be out of work for quite a while now.
okay guys, enough. I loathed Scottie when he was PS; but he’s obviously in a process of finding his way back to–whatever you wanna call it: the truth; the light; back to himself, his humanity, whatever. The progressive community has an opportunity here of making ourselves different from the lousy scum he’s been accustomed to dealing with and help him in this process. Every one of us has had moments, times, episodes, careers in our lives that we’ve been ashamed of, and have needed a hand-up from someone else to help us to get right. Now why don’t we start offering THAT to McClelland instead of continuing with the punching-bag routine?
Besides–the easier we make it for him to come to his senses, and the more hospitable to him we are as he does that, the more likely it is that he’ll be wiling and able to give up the info needed to fry the sh**-asses he used to work for.
I wonder if Russert will make donations for making profits off of his propagandizing
Half would be nice!
Get an Idea of what the rest of the World thinks of what is happening in America and American politics at Watching America.
Several so called “journalists” such as KATIE COURIC now publicly acknowledge their role in promoting this INVASION of Iraq (it’s not a war). Is she too donating part of her inflated salary to help the men and women of our military who have been effected by this?
andy @ 10:
Instead of calling them “Talking Heads” we should start calling them “Babbling Heads”
“However, without giving McClellan too much credit, it’s a damn sight more than any other Bush administration official has done. ”
Ain’t that the truth. The criminal Bush regime are takers. They take our tax dollars, the blood of our soldiers and our military to use for their own self-serving political and http://www.aztlan.net/oiltanker.htm financial http://rawstory.com/news/2005/....._1011.html interests.
Impeach.
Indict.
Imprison.
It would be a good time to review the career track John Dean ended up on when he spilled the beans on Nixon. He wasn’t exactly getting the high rolling offers after Nixon fell.
And, if memory serves, while Dean was bothered by the illegality of Nixon’s criminal Administration, it was Dean’s wife who put her foot down and told him to come clean or she was walking. If true, he ended up doing the right thing and coming out alright in the long run, but he needed some prodding to do it.
It isn’t easy to walk away from a deadly cult. And it takes time to deprogram yourself.
Maybe McClellan really is as conflicted and fallable as he seems.
And if any other Bushie is contributing any part of their truly ill-gotten gains on vets, I sure don’t know who they are.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/060108a.html
Danny East Village has it, McCelellan has broken with his past life, that takes sand, no he has not earned our love or our undying gratitude, but he HAS made an important statement for history, so when the syncophants say in the future that history of the poor maligned Bush (jr) administration is written they can’t say it was written by evil libruls!! So step away from the hate for this fellow, he is coming to the light, LET HIM DO SO
Tom
It takes a lot more guts to come out after the fact, when you know you’ve done wrong, than to quit before you know you’re about to do wrong, when people quit an administration they realize is fascist, like O’Neill did that’s to be admired respected and shows O’Neill is a man of integrity…yet if you’re a person of integrity already, that’s easy to do…however if you’re not clear on the difference between right and wrong and tend to be loyal but later on learn that your loyality is to fascists and you have the courage to come out against them when they still have the power and the media still behind them then that takes twice as much courage…because you have to admit you were naive or weak or both. I equate Scotty to the winter soldier whom I consider the bravest of the brave, it takes a hell of a lot of guts to come out in public knowing your sins will be aired all over the place…yet you do it anyway for freedom, the constitution…because it’s the right thing to do, these winter soldiers deserve our highest respect despite their war crimes, at least they committed those crimes out of naivity or ignorance…not deliberately like Cheney or Blackwater mercenaries who kill for money!
To show he’s totally sincere Scotty should give all of the proceeds of his book to the Vets and their organisations like IVAW…he should also give to organisations like code Pink and Democracy Now who have been against this war from the beginning and other protest groups whom defend our freedoms and the constitution day in and day out.
Some of the proceeds, at least half, should go to the Iraqi families we bombed and the millions of children we have maimed and are in need of medical care and food and clean water!
And it gets to be tax deductible.
Money? He thinks MONEY is the answer here?
The next step obviously should be:
McClellan voluntarily enlists in the army because he believes in America and the war he helped start and gets sent to Iraq.
Where he gets to observe his handiwork one on one one and gets to wear substandard protection, loses a limb and experiences all the comforts of the veteran’s administration.
-gala1
-gala1
“.. it’s a damn sight more than any other Bush administration official has done. ”
however small, this is true. it is also a good thing to see that for whatever reason the vast difference between mcclellan and say, someone like gonzales who never owned up to anything even under oath. props to scotty for at least belatedly coming to his senses even partially.
DannyEastVillage, thank you, thank you, thank you, for your kindness, generosity, and sense of forgiveness. I’ve been saddened by the contempt heaped on Scott McClellan by some liberals who, in my opinion, are helping the Bush admin by making Scott the story instead of the admin’s lies. Just as hardly anyone is perfectly good, hardly anyone is perfectly bad, and McClellan is no exception. Of all the Bush insiders he’s the ONE PERSON to step forward and point a finger at them, and this is how we treat him? Abandoned and attacked by conservatives, we leave him no quarter by slamming our doors in his face as well? I thought that we’re better than that. Scott McClellan is not the enemy. Bush, McCain, and the mainstream media are.
Tax Deductible
I agree with DannyEastVillage. For the reality of the rest of us, McClellan has done us a big favor. He has blown the lid, not to mention shattered the pot, of this administration and is willing to put his version of the truth on record in Congress. For that we should thank him. If indeed his testimony is heard, it could serve as the impetus to bring these criminals to answer for their atrocities. Up till now, no one else has been able to get this necessary machinery started up.
excuse me, didn’t russert, blitzer, o’reilly and too many others to name just echo the white house press releases like the good little sucophants (a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite.) they are? how much are they going to chip in?
c’mon guys. One thing at a time. It takes time to dig yourself into the shithole Scott’s been inhabiting all these years. It will take time completely to find his way out. Without getting into an argument about whether what he has done is sincere or too little too late, or what-have-you, you can be sure that he knows what kind of “person” Dick Cheney is (you know–the kind who would shoot his bud in the face) so Scott knows he’s treading on very, very dangerous territory–the kind of territory where they kill you if you don’t say the right thing. Remember Cheney having that elderly man arrested when the dude said to him, “Your policies are reprehensible”? Had him ARRESTED. What kind of chance do you think Scott has of living to testify if Conyers invites him? Scott HAS TO KNOW what kind of people these are. If he doesn’t, I pray he will not have to learn the hard way; the way he’s having to do it now is hard enough. Sucking up bullets is a lot different from sucking up pride.
excuse me, didn’t russert, blitzer, o’reilly and too many others to name just echo the white house press releases like the good little sycophants (a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite.) they are? how much are they going to chip in? please excuse previous typo.
http://www.bercasio.com/movies.....e-iraq.wmv
I wouldn’t donate shit. We are where we are because the Democrats are also a bunch of dumm assess. Bush took advantage of America imbecility, and McClellan is doing the same with Bush. He should enjoy that money.
good point mike says:…all those who voted for Bush or voted Republican, all those who got suckered into this war owe the vets and the Iraqi people something, the oil companies owe the Iraqi people and the Vets big time…. yet the only ones who seem to really be doing anything substantial for the Iraqi people and our Vets are the progressive left side of the Democratic party!
Oh, by the way, anyone besides me get a kick out of Bob Dole’s righteous indignation over Scottie?
Dole, the man who was in charge of Nixon’s re-election committee, (I still can’t believe they called it the Committee to Re-Elect the President - CREEP - with a straight face).
Anyway, Dole was the head of CREEP and it was through CREEP that the creeps laundered all the illegal slush fund money - through Mexico - that paid for all the crimes that were part of Watergate.
When it all hit the fan, Dole claimed ignorance, even though he was in charge and even though millions of dollars were illegaly laundered through CREEP. The bogus “investigation” of Watergate, run by Republican Arlan Spector, let Dole off.
Dole, along with Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Bush Sr. and a bunch of other corrupt sleazebags, have left a trail of slime going back almost 50 yrs. now.
So of course he’s outraged that Scottie broke the law of Omerta.
What a douchbag.
Move On has a lot of nerve sticking their nose in. He has already done the country a big service.
I used to belong to move on but all they did was ask for money. I support the ACLU and 4 charities monthly so I dropped out.
The ACLU has done a lot for people since the constitution went dow the tubes.
Move On has it backwards….
We should be rewarding and encouraging everyone who has info that could bring these criminals to justice to submit it ASAP.
I realize someone is making money from this, but as long as it isnt the MSM (protection blanket) Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater or the White House, im perfectly fine with it. We have to realize that McClellan is doing his best to bring down this President and VP. Before Scotty, all we had were slingshots. Now we have cannons. He is on our side and we need to show support.
Karl
McClellen needs to give all the proceeds to the Iraqi people and Vets with PTSD about 50% to each…and he should challenge any media mavon who questions him about the proceeds to do the same to give up all their huge salaries to the VETS and Iraqi children.
Kewl Beans @ 23:
And? It’s still a decent gesture all the same.
I don’t know who Nicole is referring to but Bush and Cheney have been extremely generous in their charitable donations. For anyone else in the administration who has written a book, I’m sure they have been too. Doesn’t matter if someone designates that profits from a book go directly to a charity or if they donate afterwards, or before, or whenever they choose. In Scottie’s case, it just means an arm of George Soros’ empire has influenced him once again and by donating the profits up front, he can’t weasel out of it.
Weasel being the operative word here.
He should donate all of the proceeds. It would drive that thorn in the side of the W Administration even deeper.
I would rather Move-on petition the War profiters to donate their ill-gotten gains rather than those coming forward to
expose the Bush Administration.
Nicole it’s o.k. to give credit when due and McClellan deserves credit for being forthright even at this late stage knowing full well he’ll branded a Judas within the conservative movement.
I think more would come forward if it wasn’t for the wing-nuts controlling the message on the MSM.
We should encourage and support those who wish to come forward.
The hypocrisy here overflows in buckets. Two gullible peons of the war machine now trying desperately to assume a moral high ground by throwing pennies at families whose lives have been permanently ruined by their propaganda. No mention, of course, of the Iraqi people. They don’t exist for these beltway degenerates.
Having had the chance to work with Scott during the Bush Governorship, and having lived in Tx for nearly 30 years in the media, I can say Scott is not a bad person, in fact, he’s better than average.
He like many other Americans believed the hype, the BS that BUSH was an honorable man. He like others was swept up in the media hysteria, the propaganda manufactured for BUSH. I blame corporate America much more than the minions that have worked for the asshole called GWB.
Corporate America sold this bogus human being to the US and now, it won’t even take responsibility for doing it. They are going to try and remanufacture McSame in the same fashion… buyer BEWARE!
Well god damn, let’s make him a saint.
I’m sorry, but McClellan, no matter how many books he writes and denunciations he makes, will always remain the puffy-faced little whore and propagandist.
I suppose it’s not worth even caring that much. Oh well…. Enjoy your fifteen minutes, Scotty. Enjoy the fact that those among us without those useful faculties for critical thinking and long term memory might see you as a decent human being for once and, most importantly, enjoy your book sales.
By the way, real big thing you’re doing there, donating a portion of the proceeds to the troops. I’m sure it makes up for all those years you spent rocking back and forth on your portly little stumps behind the podium, reciting talking points and doing absolutely nothing for the ass end of your boss’s policies — well, nothing good at least.
Although i will give a bronze star (less precious than gold or silver, but slightly more coveted than the pewter star) for creativity in marketing… Positive gesture toward the troops = more book sales? No, i suppose i’ve trespassed here…. I mean, waiting until it’s convenient and profitable to offer some meaningful dissent is one thing, but feigning sincerity and adoration while cynically and callously using other people for your own selfish ends… that’s so… Republican…
There is blood on your hands too, Scotty.
What’s with the “not to give him too much credit” stuff?
Seriously, this guy is doing right. He’s come out against the administration, he’s gone on the record with stuff that no one else had, he’s turned his back on that bunch of crooks, and now he’s donating some of his proceeds to the vets.
Surely there must come SOME point, where you can overlook the fact that he was a mouth piece for crooks, who may in fact have just been genuinely deceived by those he worked for?
If and when they throw Dana Perino under the bus, she won’t be writing any tell-all books. Doesn’t know about the Bay of pigs… probably doesn’t know much of anything. Let her appear in Playboy or Hustler to get some cash when her job at the White House is gone…
Geez, some of you are as closed minded as the Republican radicals. Give the guy some credit.
He is giving some of the proceeds.
Don’t come down very hard on him for not giving everything.
As an author, I can tell you that books usually don’t pay that much (though this one deserves to).
And SM is in for a very lean time as his former friends not only abandon, but try to break him.
Ask John Dean how sociopathic Republicans treat those they feel betrayed them.
He will probably need every penny he can scrape together, especially if he has legal fees to consider.
It’s a nice gesture, but something still smacks of disingenuous to me when he says he “intends to” donate money. I’m sure he will, but my doubt isn’t based on his donation of proceeds. The credibility gap for me here is that McClellan has ALREADY made money from this book. In publishing, an author is paid an advance well before the book has come out. In this case, McClellan’s advance is almost certainly 6 figures, maybe even 7. If he was truly sincere about his intentions, then he would have already made the donation. But clearly he hasn’t.
give him time, folks, give him time. it takes time to get into that hole he was in; give him some time to dig back out. Meanwhile the progressive community COULD afford to be just a little more generous to HIM. Some of the Righteousness I’m reading here is awfully reminiscent of a conservative “Christian” website. C’mon guys..lighten up a bit and see where he goes. Much more good can come of this if we treat him well.
KarlCremslinier @ 32:
just thought that needed repeated…
every single one of us, at some time in our lives, has needed–even depended on–someone else to show us mercy and forgiveness. It’s NOT going to hurt the progressive community to remember that and show some NOW. And it may very well inspire others to act as Scott has done if they can just feel safe doing so. PLEASE think about where we want the discourse to go. We dont want, in our anger, to be LIKE THEM.
Hey Gala @#20
“Money? He thinks MONEY is the answer here?”
Bitch about it to MoveOn, they’re the ones who brought it up, he’s just agreeing to do it. He didn’t have to.
I think I’m inclined to cut him some slack now because I do find what he said credible. If you’ve ever gotten out of an abusive relationship, you’d recognize some of this:
First you try to stay loyal and committed to the relationship, even in the face of evidence that the one you have commited yourself to isn’t what you thought.
Then, when you realize the truth, you have to start processing it all and how to stand up to someone you had given so much power to. And, if the abuser is truly dangerous - and Bush is - you have to figure how to get out with your skin intact.
Even after you leave, it takes time to really accept the truth about how abusive they really were.
And its always a surprise how everyone else already knew how awful the abuser was.
I don’t think he’s done processing it yet because he’s still defending Bush, even though what he says is a confirmation of how horrible Bush i