Sen. Webb on The Daily Show: John McCain voted against a "first-class future" for our veterans
By SilentPatriot Monday Jun 09, 2008 12:50pm
Virginia Senator Jim Webb appeared on The Daily Show last night to promote his new book, A Time to Fight, but ended up spending the entire interview wondering with Jon how anyone could possibly vote against his 21st century GI Bill, John McCain included.
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"[John McCain] is fine voting for 600 billion dollars to send these people off, the least we can do is give them a chance at a first-class future when they get home. The taxpayers of America paid for every penny of John McCain's education -- and they paid for every penny of my education. The least we can do is to give these people the chance at a first-class future."
Webb is a smart guy. And McCain is a total asshole.
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 1:
I agree, lol!
McBain....is a damn schmuck!
"The taxpayers of America paid for every penny of John McCain’s education"
(except for 5 years) The taxpayers of America have paid for every second of John Mcain's entire LIFE
John McCain wasn't even THERE to vote NO. he had better things to do, like attending a fund raiser in California. sounds like Giuliani with the 9/11 Commission. sorry, McCain, you dont look too good with this no-show to at least vote NO.
Well, watching that clip is a good way to end my evening. It's just about mid-night and It's raining cats and dogs (and no they don't eat them here as everyone seems to think) so I think I'll call it a night.
Keep up the good work on the Internets Tubes (it's not a big truck) and "the Google" and KEEP THE TRUTH ALIVE !!
G'night good progressive peeps.
Remember folks, McSame is a REPUBLICAN..
Hence, hypocrisy is a mandatory requirement.
Obama/Webb '08!
McCain is a tiny man with a giant reputation. I'll honor his sacrifice in Vietnam, where he spent 7 (I think) years in torture and isolation. But he has used that experience to his own profit and ambition. He dumped his first wife, where a real hero, a real mensch, would have stayed with her and loved her. He dumped his erstwhile "straight talk express" ideals to kiss the butt of the worst president in our history. He dumped his putative concern for veterans by running away from Webb's GI Bill because -- let's face it -- his Big Brother Bush doesn't like it.
Come November, the Nation is going to take a dump on the dumper!
Have you all heard that McCain is on 100% disability and gets a monthly check from the VA. Nice. While more injured vets get screwed. He's vulnerable on Vet issues, and the Vet image is kind of all he's got.
breakspear @ 4:
He'll claim during the campaign that HAD he been present, he would have voted FOR it, but the circumstances of a previously scheduled fund raiser, prevented him from attending.
why are bush and cheney not in handcuffs?
it seems inconceivable that after grinding up thousands of people, they don't want to make there return the best it can be.
it's making me crazy
McShame is a complete sell out. It's like the invasion of the corporate body snatchers. Barely a shred of decency or integrity left. Just a shill for his corporate masters.
earl @ 3:
And he's receiving nearly $58,000 annually (not taxable income) for his disability while serving our country.
"Heatwave grips Northeast. McCain threatens to attack the Sun."
Webb is a good man. Shame there weren't more like him in govt. He's not my choice for veep with Obama, but he needs a post somewhere so he can help vets in the next administration
It's sad to think that a comedy/spoof news show does a better job at reporting the news than the "real" press, in this country.
pissed off patricia @ 15:
How about the Pentagon? Not my choice for veep either but definitely for DOD.
Good for Webb's support for the veterans, but shame on him for his FISA vote. I'm a veteran, but because of his FISA vote, against the Constitution and against the American People, I won't be voting for him again regardless of what his stance on veterans issues are.
Why in God's name would we want to put these veterans through college when we have thousands upon thousands of moderately stable bridges across this country for them to live under?
The man makes me proud to be a Democrat.
BaddogLtd @ 14:
by sending a bunch of 18-year-olds with M16's and bottles of 15-SPF sun bloc to the sun's core to KICK ASS !! Sure he wont expect them back but who cares ? it iwlll be cheaper in the future for the VA that way.
I believe that not only McCain, but his father and grandfather were also supported on the taxpayers' dime. Education, medical care, pension, food, shelter and benefits for their families. Yet he wants to deny war veterans educational benefits they can use to better their lives.
Disgusting? Yes.
Surprising? Not so much.
xoites defends Constitution @ 19:
We'll first have to get the GOP to cave in to the pigeon lobby.
Chico Hussein Escuela @ 23:
Personally i am for everyone in this country getting a free college education. We may as well start with the veterans and then expand it to national service (as long as it is voluntary). We could for instance set up a corps of people to repair our moderately stable bridges and then send them off to college.
I support Webb's GI Bill. I just wonder how many soldiers would actually be able to tacke advantage of it. We continue to hear stories of how our soldiers are medicating themselves just to cope with all the death and destruction. Suicide rates are growing at alarming numbers and soldiers have even resorted to self inflicted injuries to avoid going back to Iraq. Given the trememdous psychological impact of the occupation of Iraq and extended tours, how many of these soldiers will come back with the mental capacity to attend school?
Before we send them off will they have armor?
No I'm not talking about Trojans.
marko @ 11:
Their wives and lovers are holding out on them.
ysbaddaden @ 26:
I have a better idea: Let's just stop sending them off.
Obama-Webb '08!!
Webb's a bulldog. Obama could send Webb out to tear McCain up and he would.
Webb has a command of facts and history AND the ability to speak coherently. He would bring a good part of the South, the Vet vote, AND moderate Republicans. He was Reagan's SecNav. His son has done tours in Iraq. The man gets it.
And I will be forever smitten by the fact that he took Bush on in a pissing contest and won.
Everytime a Democrat does anything the next thing you see is: Obama/(place name of Democrat actually doing his or her job here).
Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment are due to be talked about again today in the House.
Obama Webb '08
I'd like to know who Caroline Kennedy thinks would be a good choice. She is a pretty amazing woman. Very strong intellect, with a very good grasp of American history and the Constitution.
i like webb and all, but the notion that the dems have to out-military the GOP, and put him on the ticket, is unfortunate.
if he wasn't a military guy would he have the same clout?
Chico Hussein Escuela @ 21:
And they won't all be getting UVA-UVB protection with that sun block. Only regular army will be receiving the full protection UVA-UVB sunblock offers.
The rest will be kicking it old school, with UVB only protection, and some will have to make do with baby oil.
xoites defends Constitution @ 30:
Not so. Waxman, Barney Frank, Kucinich, Bill Nelson, Richardson - I think they're all doing their jobs and would make bad VP choices.
I really think Webb brings a lot that's really needed. The only thing about Webb is we don't know if he has any skeletons in the closet.
Although, really, if he doesn't they'll just make some up - and McCain is so flawed all by himself, I don't see how he'll make it all the way.
Who sez one can't be dueling and be united at the same time:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.maniacworld.com/squirr...
rooth terrorist fist jab hussein @ 35:
I was not directing that at you specifically. It happens here all the time and done by a wide variety of people, myself included.
Thankfully i trust Obama to make the right choice.
xoites defends Constitution @ 28:
I like going off.
soggy rooth hussein @ 29:
I must have missed that cause I dunt remember that happening. Links please! :D
lilybelle @ 17:
That would work or head of the Veterans Administration.
ysbaddaden @ 38:
Thanks for sharing. :)
pissed off patricia @ 40:
Although i agree the VA would be a better choice i am not sure i would wish that on my worst enemy.
webb would be psyched to be veep after all the establishing of unitary executive cheney has done..
On this one issue, McCain has KILLED any argument that the Repugs have that they are "for the troops." I mean how stupid can you be? Oh, wait. They are republicans. Pretty damned stupid.
After seeing and listening to Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia, I would put him high on the list of veep choices. He's smart, well spoken, has a good sense of humor and all the attractive things a veep could and should bring to a ticket.
woodguy @ 22:
Did you hear McCain this AM talking to small business people? He suggests that we're better off without government health care yet when in his entire life has he had anything but government funded health care? The North Vietnamese government even provided him with the best healthcare they had when they found out he was the son of an admiral.
xoites defends Constitution @ 42:
Webb is a kick ass kind of guy. He could probably do some serious butt kicking and get things in order pretty damned quick.
Webb. Clinton. Edwards. Do we really want to lose them out of the Senate?
pissed off patricia @ 47:
The VA has been in a shambles for decades. Ask any veteran who has interacted with it. It would take Hercules three lifetimes to shovel all the shit out of that stable.
i would love for obama to pick webb as vp
why?
because think of the hilarity to ensue when the el druggos and hannitys try and swiftboat him as the most liberal senator ever
pissed off patricia @ 45:
I've posted this in a coupla other threads but it seems particularly germane here.
(Promise, site monitor .. this is the last time I post it .. but you could do a piece on the front page about it. Virginia's doing a 180 from deep red to sky blue!)
Prominent Virginia Republicans endorse ex-Governor Mark Warner (DEM) for US SENATE.
WHSV: Warner Endorsed
Washingtom Post: Virginia's GOP, Crumbling Before Our Eyes
Watch the Repubicans endorse Democrat Mark Warner for US Senate:
YouTube - Mark Warner Ad: "Budget Mess"
xoites defends Constitution @ 49:
Yes, I sure do know that, but ya gotta start somewhere to fix it and you need a guy who takes no sh*t to start the process. Bush has put weak guys in the position who are scared to make a little noise. Webb, wouldn't be of that mold. If he had a president who supported his efforts and a congress who did likewise, along with a public that demanded it, I think he could clean the place up and begin a new approach.
Uncle Joe Hussein Mccarthy @ 50:
Webb's a great guy in the Senate but he only has to get elected in one state to do that.
He's done some things that would kill his chances of every getting elected to the White House.
We'd have a better chance with Hagel being Obama's running mate.
Man I like this guy. I'm an Army brat(48yr.old), and i've known many Military officers.
This guy has that complete total integrity thing down pat. Its not something you can practice or learn, it comes from within and cannot be faked. He is the real deal.
In spite of his few detractions he would be a great V.P. I would also follow him into battle if asked me too, without question, reservation or qualms.
OBAMA/WEBB '08
sanedontvotemccain @ 39:
YEAH MAN...Bush went to shake his hand or something and he refused.
I can't remember the details for ya though.
Jusker @ 48:
Edwards isn't in the senate anymore, but i take your point.
sanedontvotemccain @ 31:
.... and CNN will be busy reporting on Jessica Alba's baby ....
pissed off patricia @ 52:
You may be right, but i think it needs restructuring first.
earl @ 57:
As long as it is not something trivial.
Watch this all the way through because Stewart got in a classic zinger at the very end about the VP slot: "It's an easy job. All you have to do is think about who you want to shoot in the face."
xoites defends Constitution @ 59:
...see ... the fact that i even KNOW that some moistened Hollywood bint had a baby, p!sses me off to no end. Its kind of like knowing the name of Paris Hilton's dog. Even knowing who Paris Hilton is, makes me I feel like I probly need antibiotics ...
earl @ 61:
Do what i do. Stop watching TV. It rots your brain. Literally. It has been proven that advertising is bad for you.
While Webb may seem too military for what the dems are trying to do, especially in their effort to out-military the GOP, I think having someone who is not intimidated by the military, who has a measure of respect and experience in military matters, has the ability to not be swayed by the GI Joe-authoritarian lingo, and actually pay better attention to the nation's domestic problems than some who is "trying" to be military, but is not.
If Obama's looking for a General to be his VP IMHO Hugh Shelton would suck, McPeak is to old, Gration seems ok, Richard Danzig seems ok, Clark I think would be better in a Cabinent job and James L. Jones I'm not sure about.
BTW James A. Johnson is a scary dude who sets of my conspiracy alarm.
xoites defends Constitution @ 62:
Dude my point is ... I dont watch TV, I cancelled my cable 3 years ago b/c of FOX news, I watch DVDs (mostly docs) and the Daily Show (free here in Canuckistan)
I READ this Disinfotainment crap as supposed 'news' headlines ... America you are in BIG BIG trouble ...
new guy in the "straight talk express"... jim webb-d
he thanked the public for his education at annapolis
i would like to see him as v.p. but i don't know if we can afford to lose him from the senate
Republicans = I got my handout, fuck everyone else
65 earl
This Doc?
Dude my point is … I dont watch TV, I cancelled my cable 3 years ago b/c of FOX news, I watch DVDs (mostly docs)...
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/doc/45.jpg
Or this:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/dd51/westerns2.jpg
Charles @ 67:
that's frickin funny duda
xoites defends Constitution @ 37:
I wasn't taking it personally, just making a point. I really do think Webb has a lot of potential here. A lot. Not just to out-military the chickenhawks bloviatimg either. He's an extremely well-rounded, well-educated man.
sanedontvotemccain @ 39:
I can't give you a link right now, but here's what happened. Webb, whose son was stationed in Iraq at the time, was at a WH function and was trying his best to avoid Shrub and just blend in. Shrub sought him out and tried to shake his hand, asking, " How's your boy doing?"
Webb looked at him and said, "That's between me and my boy." and walked away. This happened not too long after he was elected.
The guy has balls. The only negative that I know about is that he has written a few novels that have some passages that can allegedly (haven't read them myself) be interpreted as being disparaging to women. Fox, et al of course would run with that ball, which might open up a conversation about how McShrub treats women. Heh.
But he was also Raygun's Sec. of the Navy so his bona fides in national security are impressive and, as far as I know, beyond reproach.
ysbaddaden @ 68:
Did I say 'doc' ...?
I meant 'duck':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSYbrzSFb68
Joh Tyler @ 55:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-29-webb-bush_x.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/28/AR200611...
koff koff koff Obama/Hagel koff koff koff
koff
rend @ 43:
It would be more accurate to call it the Urinary Executive. Since what they've done with the presidency and separation of powers is to piss all over them.
rooth terrorist fist jab hussein @ 32:
I asked last week on one of these forums what people would think about Caroline Kennedy as veep? I know the experience factor probably makes it too much of a "leap of faith", but it certainly would spark an immense interest among women again for the Democratic ticket.
Again, it's probably too much of a stretch, but imagine the possibility and the worldwide good-will/ diplomatic cohesion it would potentially create in light of the past 8 years. No one around the world has forgotten the JFK & RFK peace initiatives.... and with John Jr. gone, it would be a remarkable way to carry on the legacy.
Rick Mack @ 76:
I doubt if she would ever do it. Jackie Kennedy once said, (when she married Onassis) that she was leaving the country, "because they're killing Kennedys and my children are Kennedys." She figured Onassis was rich enough to keep them safe.
After Jackie passed away, JFK Jr. gave a couple of political speeches, starting making his voice known, and then died, suddenly and tragically.
Conspiracy theorist or not, I don't think Caroline will ever run for any office. I'm surprised she has spoken out this much. She has stayed very much in academia.
virginia is becoming a"swing state" hopefully webb will work hard in his state for barack
pissed off patricia @ 15:
Stewart asked Webb about that and, when Webb said no, Stewart said 'come on, the only hard part is figuring out who you're gonna shoot in the face.'
ROFLMAO
If there's a better choice for VP I'd like to see it. He is the absolute perfect representation of the great (future state) Northern Virginia.
OK, look, I was happy when Webb beat Allen...enourmously happy, but I'm getting a little tired of his veteran love machine babble. You're a vet, I get it. You "support the troops", I get it. Now start dealing with real issues like the environment, ending the damn illegal invasion, education and healthcare for ALL, not just those who CHOOSE to go and murder innocent men, women and children.
I don't want you to make it more attractive for people to join the military, I want it to be UNattractive. If we get attacked, we have a draft. Other than that, stop making it an appealing option for those who are out of options. Give them options in the alternative energy sector, instead of a murderous occupation.
Webb for VP is stupid, typical Dem fakery. "See? We're just as strong on defense as you Republicans are? See? John Kerry saluted. See? Semper Fi, man." Give me a friggin' break. The day we stop trying to play their small penis/frat boy/pick-up truck military game and admit that we're opposed to war, we will be believable.
Thank you, I feel better now.
Isn't it great listening to great men like Webb with working brains? Instead of chimpy and darth vader spewing their daily lying bullshit. This country deserves the leadership of Obama, Webb, Edwards just to name a few.
We are lucky to have Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert on the left to spread the word.
The Armageddon Bring It On Club : membership roster :
Dick Cheney, President
Joseph Lieberman, VP
Wolfowitz, Treasurer
Karl Rove, Chief Strategist
Scooter Libby, Commutaions Chief
Bloody Billy Cristol
Condoleeza Rice
Donald Rumsfeld
etc., etc.
Don Rumsfeld @ 83:
John McCain
George W. Bush
I like Webb a lot, but I really hope he neither gets a nod as VP nor is pulled into a Dem Cabinet. Why? Because he's too important a Senator. Qualifications alone, I'd love to see him as SecDef or VA, but vets need him where he is.
Saloum @ 81:
Glad you feel better. Now, listen up: I'm a vet, and I have no penis. Same with my daughter. She's a no-penis vet too. My son has a penis, but he's not a vet. He's active duty. Can we leave penises out of it now?
I never killed anyone while on active duty. MOST people in the military never kill anyone. My job was strictly defensive - too see trouble and stop it before it starts. To avoid war at all costs.
A well run military, run by a sane government, fights less battles because it is ready to fight but doesn't need to except as a very last resort.
An insane government, which is what we have, uses a pointed weapon as foreign policy. The problem isn't having a military - or a government - the problem is when they are run by whack-jobs.
This insane group of whack-jobs has diminished the military to nothing more than an extension of their overpaid, undercontrolled, no accountability mercanaries, like Blackwater. And they are not out there defending our country. Far from it.
You need to stop and think. In your ideal world, we would get attacked and then start a draft? And who would train the draftees? Who would have the infrastructure prepared and maintained for the draftees? You gonna pull teenagers off the street and say, "Here's a submarine, or a jet, or a tank, good luck with that"?
It's possible to have sane reasonable protection and defense. First we need sane government.
Wonderful man, Jim Webb. He has a great future, whatever position he serves the country in.
Where is O'Reilly on this? He said he was going to go after anyone in Congress who did not get on board with this new GI bill, a bill which O'Reilly said was great for the vets.
Yet O'Reilly has not gone after McCain on it. He's giving him a pass. I guess O'Reilly must have meant he'd go after liberals he didn't get on board---not GOP presidential candidates. O'Reilly is not a man of his word.
lilybelle @ 17:
Department of Defense? I think Obama should start a department of peace and give them the DOD budget.
Webb is to vulnerable on womens issues. He is really not such a great guy.
woo-hoo, props to the university of wisconsin!
(sadly, this once-great university has largely been handed over to corporate interests...)
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