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Lord, save us from the idiot pundit class. The smackdown the Supreme Court gave the Bush administration is making the GOP very unhappy. I mean, how dare we consider a fundamental building block of justice since the Magna Carta anything less than an unacceptable allowance for activist judges?
And how do we know it’s a bad decision? Fear, fear, fear!!!! Newt says it’ll cost us a city! A notion not far off from Scalia’s remarkably legal citation-free dissent that this decision “will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.” Oooohhh….be afraid, America. Little obnoxiously liberal notions like the right for people like Maher Arar to know why he was detained and to prove his innocence are things that the Republicans don’t think they should have to held to.
Mr. GINGRICH: On the other hand, I will say, the recent Supreme Court decision to turn over to a local district judge decisions of national security and life and death that should be made by the president and the Congress is the most extraordinarily arrogant and destructive decision the Supreme Court has made in its history.
REID: In its history.
Mr. GINGRICH: In its history. Worse than Dred Scott, worse than–because–for this following reason: The court has now knowingly stepped in–and this morning’s newspapers say smugglers had actually gotten the design of a nuclear weapon, that we now have the evidence that people out there had a nuclear weapon design. And this court is saying that any random district judge, based on whatever their personal caprice is, whatever their personal ideological bias, can intervene with a terrorist in such a way–and this is something that the Italians will tell you about fighting the mafia.
Worse than Dred Scott? Wasn’t that a dog whistle used by GWB for indicating the kind of justices he’d pick for SCOTUS? And the whole “mushroom cloud” fear of smugglers getting nuclear plans? Dude, it’s called the Google. It’s not hard to get bomb plans online or in the library, for that matter–manufacturing them is another issue. But that has NOTHING to do with the Boumediene case. Boumediene said that habeas corpus still applied at Guantanamo, despite its location in Cuba because the US has sovereign rights over it and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 was an unconstitutional suspension of habeas corpus.
But again, facts have a liberal bias, don’t they, Newt?
Transcripts below the fold:
REID: War or economy, what’s going to be the bigger issue in the fall? Or is there something else?
Mr. GINGRICH: Well, I think–I think they’re interlocked. I think the reason the American people worry so much about energy is partly the economy, partly the personal impact of 4 and $5 gasoline. And partly, as we found in a poll at American Solutions a year ago, 78 percent of the country said it was dangerous to rely on foreign dictatorships for oil. And I think they see that both as a national security issue, as a–as an economic issue. On the other hand, I will say, the recent Supreme Court decision to turn over to a local district judge decisions of national security and life and death that should be made by the president and the Congress is the most extraordinarily arrogant and destructive decision the Supreme Court has made in its history.
REID: In its history.
Mr. GINGRICH: In its history. Worse than Dred Scott, worse than–because–for this following reason: The court has now knowingly stepped in–and this morning’s newspapers say smugglers had actually gotten the design of a nuclear weapon, that we now have the evidence that people out there had a nuclear weapon design. And this court is saying that any random district judge, based on whatever their personal caprice is, whatever their personal ideological bias, can intervene with a terrorist in such a way–and this is something that the Italians will tell you about fighting the mafia.
REID: Well, but here’s my question.
Mr. GINGRICH: Go ahead.
REID: Why won’t the inexperience argument work against Obama, then? If you’re talking about all these dangers out there in foreign policy, with nuclear weapons and–why can’t the McCain successfully argue that Barama–Obama is just not ready for that job?
Mr. GINGRICH: My judgment, as somebody who’s studied politics for a long time, is because it won’t work in the end. Obama’s a very articulate, very intelligent Harvard Law graduate, you hnow, who is extraordinarily smart, and he is not going to come across in a debate like some guy who’s dopey. I mean, he’s going to come across as fully prepared. He knows how to study all this stuff. He has good military advisers. The problem with Obama is he’s wrong. It’s not that he’s
inexperienced, it’s that his policies are wrong. He applauded this court decision. This court decision is a disaster which could cost us a city. And the debate ought to be over whether or not you’re prepared to risk losing an American city on behalf of five lawyers–it was a five-to-four decision, and five lawyers have decided that the Supreme Court counts more than the Congress and the president combined in national security. That has never been true in American history.
That ought to be a principled argument between McCain and Obama, about whether or not you’re prepared to allow any random nutcase district judge who has no knowledge of national security to set the rules for terrorists.
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He says this like the GOP haven’t damaged New Orleans, and New York.
What about the Constitution?
So much for Conservative claims to be “Originalists.”
And if Conservatives were really concerned so much about safety over the Constitution, why are they against gun control?
Well, BushCo has already sacrificed New Orleans, and perhaps Des Moines is next. I wonder what city this decision will “cost us.”
Yeah, the administration and republican congress already cost us a city.
Wasn’t he the guy wishing for a terrorist act, to emphasize the danger so we would
give up more freedomI mean make ourselves safer?The worse than Dredd Scott idea is such a blatant attempt at fear mongering that it borders on bigotry/racism.
I would say it symbolizes ignorance but Newt knows better than that.
Giving should-be POW’s access to actual due process = worse than segregation? He can’t be this delusional.
What’s this all about Newt? You got the inside scoop? Who’ve you been talking to?
Why’d Ashcroft stop flying commercial flights the summer of 9/11 Newt? You got something you’d like to get off your chest? You can tell us - we won’t tar and feather you until you’ve had your say.
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John Tighe @ 1:
Or the multitude of American cities that suffered devastating damage from tornadoes and floods - and all Bush can say (after the obligatory photo-op) is …
“Sorry fellas - you’re on your own.”
Newt needs a brain and needs lessons on googling and reading articles and connecting names and orgs,
the plans were supplied by his AIPAC ATC DC Repug spyring buddies to the bad guys over there.
The neo-cons already cost us a city - The Shining City on a Hill.
I just wonder why CBS would even have a Gneuter brain like him on. How many times does a man have to be FOS for them to PAY this geek to speak. OH…how’s that ’send all unwanted babys to ‘BOYS TOWN’ working out Gnewt? Go back in your cave and count your money.
Habeas Corpus is also built into those quaint ol’ Geneva Conventions that don’t apply here cuz the prisoners in this war on terror are not prisoners of war - got it?
Man, this does have the villagers upset. This is just further proof they have zero understanding of the basic principles of democracy.
This admin has already cost us a city- I used to live there.
Unless he was speaking figuratively - and meant GOP was going to lose Washington…
Fear is what they want us to feel while they steal more power and more money.
You know what costs America a city? Prioritizing brush-clearing in the wake of a category 5 hurricane that the authorities warned was imminent.
You know what costs America their country? Listening to delusional ass-talkers like Weasel Gingrich.
What an AMAZING buffoon. It will probably save us a city as it will force the government to use effective interrogation techniques , will force them to focus on something other than just locking up anyone. Anyone who thinks that “thug talk” stops terrorist attacks is Republican dumb . . . and that’s pretty damned dumb.
Gingrich is a total creep who left his dying wife for a younger model, then left the younger model for another classic ride.
The US Constitution is so damned liberal.
Oh, and I hope New reads this:
Damn! These guys are like HAL at the end of “2001, A Space Odyssey.”
“Fear, Fear, Fear, FFFFFFFEEEEEEAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”
Time to pull out that last circuit board and shut this beast down.
Who’s writing Scalia’s opinions for him now?
The Gestapo?
Face The Moron.
Larry Flint has the goods to chase old Newt back under a rock
What city Newt? Baghdad maybe? Oh wait, Mc Lame said it’s perfectly safe so it must be the truth. We know NeoCONS would never lie or exaggerate the truth for their self serving ends.
Excuse me while I remove my hip waders, it was getting mighty deep there for a moment.
Lions, and Tigers, and Bears, and Newt the Gnat…Oh My!!!!
The nuclear genie is out of the bottle — and has been for quite some time. I will NOT spend the rest of my life living in some kind of Kafka-like parody of what this country once was, simply because of these fear-mongering hawks.
Newt — you are an enemy of the US Constitution in my book…
Newt…STFU.
I think Americans are getting tired of the raise your right hand and Zieg-Heil or be attacked again crap.
Didn’t we get rid of you years ago? Why have you crawled out of your sewer to bother us again?
According to Newt, we’re supposed to be worried about the remote possibility of losing a city to terrorist attack while back in reality the US has a whole mess of cities being lost to floods and droughts and tornadoes and firestorms without so much as a blush from these pathetic, right wing idiots.
They can’t praise Gitmo, so the criticize SCOTUS.
smugglers had actually gotten the design of a nuclear weapon?
Was it these smugglers?
Great way to gin up the fear… old gun running trick, supply both sides.
Epinnoia @ 27:
Yep, anyone who knowingly conspires to subvert the constitution and deprive Americans of life, liberty, and happiness is an enemy of the people and traitor.
That goes for the rest of you right-wing assholes too.
Not Another mushroom cloud !
Not another Chemical weapons plant !
RUN Everybody !! Be Afraid !! The GOP is going to attack Again !!
Old Thunderthighs and his message of fear. I swear, his arsecheeks are so tight with fear that if you put a piece of wood in there the friction would ignite it.
I declare Newt to be an enemy combatant. Send him to Gitmo forever.
Oh…Now he has to be charged with a crime.
Never mind.
The Rude Pundit wrote about the Right’s reaction a few days ago. Fear-mongering Gingrich is the perfect illustration. These guys hate the U.S., don’t they?
jitter @ 4:
More like two cities, and they’re working on a state now (Iowa)
What a public service this sad and unfortunate little man provides. Another one note pugnacious projecting repug who avoided military service big time drumming up fear with horror-show images of mushroom clouds and lost cities. Is this truly all that network TV can offer as news commentary? A bloated, spewing relic of failed policies who was forced out? Get the hook.
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…and not yet even so much as a thought to of all the terrorists Bush has created that will plague our nation with the threats for decades to come.
The greatest weapon of the right has been to reduce complex topics to narrow talking points and dichotomous questions others can only agree with or risk being branded a traitor or leftist nut. How many unconsidered dire consequences have brushed aside in favor of agenda appeasement by the GOP?.
We’ll trust the random nutcase judge to know the constitution and the law, thank you.
Oh Newtie is so cute when he breaks out the hyperbole. Screw Dred Scott. Is it really “worse” than Roe v. Wade? C’mon, Newtie, tell all those feverish fetus-lovers that your “revolution” exploited that the “American holocaust” of abortion pales in comparison to Li’l Georgie and Big Dick’s ability to lock up people they don’t like forever.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 9:
So true. This latest destruction of evidence has all the markings of the crooks covering their a** on the way out.
These Dumb Asses are the greatest threat to this country.
Notice how he never brings up habeas corpus at all, he is an UnAmerican SOB.
hey, have you heard the news
timmeh russert died
Wasnt Newts motto ” Grill America ” , sorry drill America thats what I meant to type ( its that damn new breath-analyzer I installed on my ketbored ) Newt hey whats in a name .
Let it cost us Washington, DC. The price is right.
MountainMan23 @ 12:
That’s why Bush & cronies called them “detainees.” If they were called what they really are - Prisoners - there would be a problem with violating the Geneva Convention.
And, by the way, what will actually cost an American city would be us attacking Persia.
Osama is smart enough to just kick back now, and let us do ourselves in…
I’m not going to read it…
I’m not going to view the video….
To do otherwise would be to consider these people actually are looking out for my interests.
If US installations around the world are considered under the US rule of law, then Gitmo qualifies. If not, then McCain’s being born in Panama rather than on US soil makes him ineligible to run for president.
You just can’t have it both ways.
PEACE
Newt, I suspect you’re a pedophile. I need not be made to show you my evidence, because I want to protect my ’sources and methods’. Tough luck, Newt. I am going to throw you in Gitmo, and ask the rest of the population to simply trust me. Seems quite fair, right?
Same Newt Gingrich who forced President Clinton to take his eye off the ball for a year and a half while the terrorists plotted 9/11. Go back under your rock with your mistress Newt.