matthews is a non entity

a total fabrication

a fiction of a correspondent

a complete personification of the 20th century american mainstream media

grown in a test tube, test marketed in pittsburgh, sent out across the usa like direct mail rice chex coupons

he likes titties and beer bottles, hates blacks and sane women, and hasn't had an original thought since he began singing "starry

starry night" when he went potty

Wasnt that way before McCain sold his soul to BushCo and chased all his muses away?

that clip was from October 2002

what was going on in October 2002?

hmmmm???

the United States Congress handed a loaded .357 Magnum to a six year old

I wouldn't say men don't suffer.

It's good to remember suffering begets suffering.

I actually watched that this morning and was disgusted. It reminded me strongly of being in grade school, and a bunch of children chortling over their impressions of the kids they did and didn't like.

I particularly was disgusted by the apparent attempt to begin labeling Obama as a wimpy male, associating him with images of Kerry on the sailboard, etc. In typical conservative schizophrenia (such as "Obama is a Muslim" vs "Obama's pastor is un-American") they are going to face the conflict of "Obama as a scary black man" vs "Obama is a wimp." How scared is America supposed to be of a wimpy black man?

I respect McCain's ability to have a laugh at his own expense, and to play comedic roles on Saturday Night Live, I really do. My motto is "Comedy is dangerous," and it is. Ask Al Franken, who will be taking hits for every ribald joke he's ever penned between now and November. Ask Rudy Giuliani, who maybe revealed more about himself than he wanted to with his crossdressing on SNL. But just because McCain is good at comedy doesn't make him any more suited to the presidency that Giuliani. And Franken's suitability for office is apparent in his policy positions, not his jokes or his ability to freehand sketch all fifty states.

As for Chris Matthews show, I think the most terrifying part, for me, was when they pointed out that one of the commentators (I recognized him but can't recall his name) had been right over a year ago in picking both Obama and McCain as the eventual nominees. That fellow then said "The VP pick is going to be Pawlenty." While I'll be happy to see my governor lose, the risk of that miserable weasel becoming Vice President really kicks the risk factor up a couple of notches for me.

But most of Matthew's program just seemed like juvenile yapping. I couldn't believe they were airing it, honestly.

And does EVERY female conservative commentator have to look like a Stepford Wife?

matthews predictably=unpredictable

Just one of the many corporate media tools that pop up on cable everyday spouting nonsense to a dumbed down America. I no longer watch the idiot tube, thank God for media watchdog sites like this one to keep track of these bozos.

That's just fucking creepy. That's all it is. Creepy.

That clip was six years ago. McCain looked a lot more "spry" than he does lately.

Remember in "Bowling for Columbine" how far Charleton Heston had degenerated from the "my cold, dead hands" speech to six years later when he walked away from Moore's interview looking like the poster boy for Depends, Osteoporosis, and Life Alert ("I've fallen and I can't get up") all rolled into one.

What will McCain look/act like in six more years?

Whoa, hey, be careful where you point that "fool" gun it's loaded. We get the picture.

RobertD @ 6:

I realize Cindy McCain isn't running for office, but since Michelle Obama's every move is fair game, when will the media talk about Cindy McCain's stroke, short-term memory loss, inability to string thoughts together, etc?

When Howard Dean ran for president, the media (including Matthews) was up in arms about the fact that the country never got to see or hear from his wife. When will that be addressed as it regards Cindy McCain? Why haven't reporters on the "donut express" mentioned this? What price are they paying to maintain their access?

I agree. I had an exchange with a fellow Kossack about that very issue:

goddamnit!

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/6/15/0857/87214/67#c67

He is incompetent as a leader, but a natural at sketch comedy...

After he said loofah she called him Bill...did anyone catch that?

"Shall I loofah your back?"
"No Bill that's alright"

That was not acting. I am sure the same thing happens all the time on the "Stray C*ck Express".

"read", natch.

ysbaddaden @ 12:

I Am Curious (Yellow)

I only came on to this sight after the supremes anointed prince georgie.

If and when Obama wins

What will we be kvetching about then?

We've called out Democrats when we thought it was merited.

But above and beyond any particular ideology, we've always been about calling out the media when they push their narratives.

Man what a boring day. There's this malaise drifting through the air.

Maybe it's just me.

L.A. Confidential @ 32:

I'm not watching it to spare my stomach from further abuse.

You're not missing much: an otherwise forgettable(typical), SNL sketch with a non-actor who comes across as a non-actor. And I don't mean to say that John McBerrymore comes across as a natural, like, say, Michael Jordan did on SNL.

It's a six year old sketch, though, and that's what gets me. It's not like this holds up as an example of anything, not in the way that one can go back six years and show how the Senator has McFlipped and McFlopped over the same period of time.

I'd call it lazy journalism on Tweety's part, but the way he speaks of the clip it comes across as partisan campaigning.

joeyess @ 15:

That's just fucking creepy. That's all it is. Creepy.

I completely agree. McCain looked like he was just a little too much into the skit or something.

Now there's a campaign slogan.

Vote for John McCain,

We were meant to be together.

For ever, and ever, and ever

creepy is right... it's creepy on so many levels you could write a book about it. why is this openly misogynist male who has a thing for other misogynist males still on tv?

38 Andy K Jong Il Says: L.A. Confidential @ 35:

Man what a boring day. There’s this malaise drifting through the air.

Maybe it’s just me.

Hey, I’ve been feeling it for a few months. Maybe there’s a National Malaise pandemic spreading, the likes not seen since the late ’70’s. ;D

Oh no,

Not

DISCO!!!

I dunno...I thought it was pretty funny.

I'm voting for Obama, though.

Nicole,

You do realize that there are a lot of men who regularly visit this website and read your posts? Your consistent male bashing is the most tiresome, irritating aspect of Crooks & Liars. If you think there are no men suffering in this country, I suggest you get out from behind your keyboard and leave the house once in awhile. Whenever I read this kind of garbage from you, it strikes me what a small, close-minded person you are and it causes me to not take anything you say very seriously.

Thanks for the loving tribute to men on this Father's Day. What the f*ck are you thinking?

J.C. @ 50:

Nicole,

You do realize that there are a lot of men who regularly visit this website and read your posts? Your consistent male bashing is the most tiresome, irritating aspect of Crooks & Liars. If you think there are no men suffering in this country, I suggest you get out from behind your keyboard and leave the house once in awhile. Whenever I read this kind of garbage from you, it strikes me what a small, close-minded person you are and it causes me to not take anything you say very seriously.

Thanks for the loving tribute to men on this Father's Day. What the f*ck are you thinking?

Yeah, right, because on Father's Day the whole freakin' campaign stops, right? Close-minded? I'd ask you to take the blinders off, but you're one of the Obama supporters who automatically believes that Nicole couldn't have possibly remained neutral when in came to Hillary, right? You see everything so clearly.

Bullshit.

BTW, watch the clip. Watch the gender role-reversal. SNL ran it in '02 and Tweety ran it today. Tweety had Parker on his show today. Nicole didn't get this ball rolling today, Father's Day. Tweety did.

J.C. @ 50:

????

I often refuse to read Dear Abby because of her male bashing; if a man wants to canoodle his wife or not canoodle his wife he's guilty of wife abuse.

I take personal offense at TV commercials that make men look like over-grown little boys.

I have no idea where you're coming from.

That last bit reminded me too much of the end of Billo's porno novel - complete with loofahs.

J.C. @ 50:

Nicole,

You do realize that there are a lot of men who regularly visit this website and read your posts? Your consistent male bashing is the most tiresome, irritating aspect of Crooks & Liars. If you think there are no men suffering in this country, I suggest you get out from behind your keyboard and leave the house once in awhile. Whenever I read this kind of garbage from you, it strikes me what a small, close-minded person you are and it causes me to not take anything you say very seriously.

Thanks for the loving tribute to men on this Father's Day. What the f*ck are you thinking?

J.C.,

You do realize that there are a lot of secure non-misogynistic men who regularly visit this website and read Nicole's intelligent, insightful and fair posts? Your Nicole bashing is the most tiresome, irritating, whiny, off-base, embarrassing-to-your-fellow-males comment on this thread. If you think men suffer near as much as women in this country, I suggest you get out from behind your egocentric point of view and really try to imagine what it's like to be a woman and face the level of retarded discrimination and condescension women of all types face in this country and world...but don't leave the house physically or digitally until you figure that one out. Whenever I read this kind of garbage from anyone, it strikes me what a small, close-minded person they are and it causes me to not take anything they say very seriously.

...how would you react if someone wrote a post on Mother’s Day laughing at the idea that women somehow have it tough in America?

Speaking as a woman, and as someone who has raised children as well as suffered from prejudice and even sexual assault in the work place, I doubt too many men or women would be laughing. The idealization of motherhood by Certain Members of Society who then feel happy enough to discriminate, belittle and grope other peoples' daughters, sisters and mothers might make for an interesting post.

Sorry, JC, I see your point, but you're just plain wrong. I loved my father more than anyone in the world, but as the father of only daughters I would think he'd have snorted in disbelief at your statements here. Yeah, some men do have it tough, but by and large, and historically, men have always had an advantage (let's make that white men as well) that women have had to struggle damned hard to assert their right to as well. That being in MY lifetime, and I'm not quite 'old' yet.

So happy father's day to you, mate. And keep up the good work, Nicole.

J.C. @ 59:

I know nothing about the book you refer to...

Read the original post, pal, like the very first sentence:

Kathleen Parker has written a book

Because women earn less (on average) than men in this country, men suffer less than women? You seem to me to be the one who is blinded, or at the very least selectively myopic, to suffering everywhere it occurs. I invite you to visit your local VA hospital for a different take. A lot of those men will never work again in their lives for any wage. Many of them will never walk again or make love again or use the bathroom without assistance. I invite you to spend a day roofing houses or pouring tar or working in a steel mill or a stamping plant to get a taste of what kind of sacrifices many men really make to support themselves and their families. None of the men in previous generations of my family lived to a ripe old age because they were broken down by the jobs they had to do to put food on the table. And trust me, none of them were living high on the hog with their "male" wages. None of that diminishes the suffering of women and that's not my point. I see the suffering of men AND women in this country and in the world and I'm equally moved by all of it. There's plenty of suffering happening and it's NOT the exclusive domain of one gender or the other.

So a physically capable woman walks into an Army recruiting office and wants to join the infantry. The recruiter says what? "Sorry, we don't allow that here." Same thing happens at steel mills and coal mines, bub. No one's forcing men to take these jobs, but women are discriminated against and kept from taking those jobs. But where men and women are allowed to work the same jobs, women, on average, make 30% less than men.

Be honest with yourself: how would you react if someone wrote a post on Mother's Day laughing at the idea that women somehow have it tough in America? I doubt you'd have a very favorable opinion of that, and I reserve the right to react in the same way. I trust that you don't really dislike men, but maybe you could be a little more careful about giving off that perception. I'm not the only one who has commented on it. Next Father's Day you might choose to say something nice about men and celebrate them a little. It wouldn't hurt you.

Get off the Father's Day high horse. It's a fucking Hallmark Holiday. By the tone of your comments, you'd be griping if Nicole made this post yesterday, tomorrow or in the middle of November.

Again, Matthews opened the door by having Parker on his show, and by running that clip. Write to him and call him an agitator, would ya?

nonny mouse @ 60:

...how would you react if someone wrote a post on Mother’s Day laughing at the idea that women somehow have it tough in America?

Speaking as a woman, and as someone who has raised children as well as suffered from prejudice and even sexual assault in the work place, I doubt too many men or women would be laughing. The idealization of motherhood by Certain Members of Society who then feel happy enough to discriminate, belittle and grope other peoples' daughters, sisters and mothers might make for an interesting post.

Sorry, JC, I see your point, but you're just plain wrong. I loved my father more than anyone in the world, but as the father of only daughters I would think he'd have snorted in disbelief at your statements here. Yeah, some men do have it tough, but by and large, and historically, men have always had an advantage (let's make that white men as well) that women have had to struggle damned hard to assert their right to as well. That being in MY lifetime, and I'm not quite 'old' yet.

So happy father's day to you, mate. And keep up the good work, Nicole.

I'm not clear about what I'm just plain wrong about or what statements of mine are snort-worthy? Is it so easy for you to discount my observations and opinions and life experiences just because they're not the same as yours or your fathers? Where does that get us?

Nicole Belle @ 61:

J.C. @ 59:
I know nothing about the book you refer to,

Helps if you read the post and watch the accompanying video before you lash out.

but your obvious sarcasm and pooh-poohing of the idea that men have anything to complain about in this country offends me

Sorry you're offended. I'm offended by your projection of what I said, because I NEVER SAID THAT.

So does your assumption that I don't like what you say because I'm some caveman who is opposed to women expressing opinions. I've seen this kind of thing from you too often in the past, where you cast men (sorry, WHITE men) as the root of all evil in the world, without ever making a distinction between men of great power who do evil things and the other 99% of us.

Wow. Project much? Talk about the dangers of assuming. Again, these kind of ridiculous blanket statements where you assume I'm speaking for an entire gender and or race make it hard to take you credibly. But that's just me.

You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to not like it.

Absolutely true. And I'm entitled to tell you that you're projecting a whole lot of your issues on one little throwaway line about a ridiculously misogynistic book by a right winger.

Because women earn less (on average) than men in this country, men suffer less than women?

Did I say that? No. I said that there is suffering all over the place. However, that doesn't fit into your little hate on for me.

You seem to me to be the one who is blinded, or at the very least selectively myopic, to suffering everywhere it occurs. I invite you to visit your local VA hospital for a different take. A lot of those men will never work again in their lives for any wage. Many of them will never walk again or make love again or use the bathroom without assistance.

Neither will women vets, or are you under the impression that only male troops get injured in combat? No one said there isn't suffering. And for the record, I've been advocating for increased help for veterans on this site for more than a year. Of course, I don't make a gender distinction for that assistance that you do.

I invite you to spend a day roofing houses or pouring tar or working in a steel mill or a stamping plant to get a taste of what kind of sacrifices many men really make to support themselves and their families.

And I'll give you the same invitation: you go walk a mile in the pumps of a single mother struggling to make ends meet. How do you know what I do in my real life to make sure that my family is taken care of, or are you assuming I have a sugar daddy taking care of me?

None of the men in previous generations of my family lived to a ripe old age because they were broken down by the jobs they had to do to put food on the table. And trust me, none of them were living high on the hog with their "male" wages. None of that diminishes the suffering of women and that's not my point.

Yes it is. You went after me because I mocked Kathleen Parker's book. Since you're not moved to get informed, I'll give you the Publisher's Weekly review:

According to columnist Parker, men are an endangered species struggling against everything from mere hostility to literal emasculation. Starting in elementary school, where a teacher most likely a feminist will demand that boys sit still and listen and continuing through college, where freshmen must endure rape awareness workshops, men are besieged by disrespect. Belittled by bumbling portrayals in sitcoms, their importance as fathers is so devalued that they are perceived as little more than sperm and a wallet. Parker trots out the usual suspects—mass culture, unspecified feminists, The Vagina Monologues, Murphy Brown, metrosexuals and girlymen—to propose that a feminist campaign is afoot and eager to effeminize, denigrate and destroy American men. Although Parker's deliberate provocations make for lively reading, the majority of her claims are too fanciful and unsubstantiated to be genuinely thought provoking or even interesting (erectile dysfunction is caused by young, sexually aggressive women; women serving in the army put the nation at risk). Parker makes a poor conspiracy theorist, and her statistics and unverifiable theories are unable to make her case, however vehement or entertaining their presentation.

I see the suffering of men AND women in this country and in the world and I'm equally moved by all of it. There's plenty of suffering happening and it's NOT the exclusive domain of one gender or the other.

Which was EXACTLY my point, but you're too filled with whatever issues you have to see that.

Be honest with yourself: how would you react if someone wrote a post on Mother's Day laughing at the idea that women somehow have it tough in America? I doubt you'd have a very favorable opinion of that, and I reserve the right to react in the same way.

Assume, assume, assume. I actually do think that people in the US have it much easier than in many other countries. I've traveled extensively and lived in third world nations. I know of what I speak. But maybe if you weren't so closed-minded, you could see that...

I trust that you don't really dislike men, but maybe you could be a little more careful about giving off that perception. I'm not the only one who has commented on it. Next Father's Day you might choose to say something nice about men and celebrate them a little. It wouldn't hurt you

Yes, actually, you ARE the only one who commented on it. I'm dealing with the damn clip, not making a blanket statement about Father's Day. Are you seriously that thin-skinned that you can't see that?

If it makes it easy for you to paint a one-dimensional portrait of me in your mind as some kind of backwards, woman-hatin' yahoo, go for it. Was I not supposed to take "poor, put upon men (they suffer so much in this country)" as sarcasm? Neither your post nor the clip says anything specific about the contents of the book, so there was nothing to react to there. What WAS there to react to was what I took as your jab at men and the ridiculousness of the idea of writing a book about men's problems when, of course, they don't have any. In the absence of the review that you've just included in your reply to me, and the absence of any discussion of the contents of the book in the clip, it was impossible for me to determine what you were reacting to, so it just appeared to me to be a jab at men. And because I've seen you lay the problems of the world at the feet of white men in general, and I've disliked that when I've seen it, I'm sure I reacted more strongly than I would have ordinarily. If I completely misunderstood your intent, I apologize. But I'm NOT the only one who did. Please see posts # 7, 8, and 40.

McCain is a freak, I bet he can be way way creepier than that. That dude has demons like no one else. Imagine how fucked up you would be, if you went through what he survived.

This dude had 3,867 different skin cancers

I have yet to read any intelligent criticism of Parker's book in the left-wing blogosphere. Plenty of mockery but not one thing that comes off as honest skepticism.

True, I haven't had a chance to read Ms. Parker's book, but I have read "Who Stole Feminism," by Christine Hoff Sommers, "The New Victorians," by, I believe, Rene Denfield, and "Ceasefire," by Cathy Young, all of which seem to have stood up rather well under criticism. (If you want to see what I mean, look them up on Amazon and read the rather hysterical-sounding, fact-free negative reviews that do so much to rebut negative stereotypes about feminists.) "Backlash," by Susan Faludi on the other hand has not stood up to close scrutiny. (Her defense of Shere Hite is quite palpably dishonest on first reading. Faludi has also remained strangely unassailed for her bizarre complaint that the movie "The Accused" is part of the backlash on the grounds—I kid you not—that the movie made the woman being raped look like a victim!)

There was a time when feminists seemed to understand that sexism hurt everybody. That was many many years ago. No wonder feminism has remained so popular, especially among women who, for reasons unclear, generally seem to like men.

Chris Matthews is no Tim Russert:

Chris Matthews should take note of the tributes to Tim Russert. Listen, listen, listen -- not lecture, lecture, lecture -- not to mention spitting on his guests as he spouts his personal opinions. An interview is to find out where the interviewee stands, not what his majesty Matthews thinks to the exclusion of the interviewees' thoughts. Argument is not journalism. Fair minded and polite is not in Matthews personality.

In the words of Col. Potter?
"I don't think that [would be] dignified.

That is really creepy. McCain is a really creepy person.

Exactly what Americans desires in a President.

Enough of the "...70 cents to the dollar in a comparable job..."

That has been debunked so many times. First of all, the number is currently about 80 percent.

And second:
"Even a study done by Equal Pay Day sponsors like the American Association of University Women found that three-quarters of the pay gap disappears by controlling for hours, occupation and other factors that affect earnings."
http://www.iwf.org/news/show/20247.html