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By John Amato Sunday Jun 15, 2008 10:30pmRocco Mediate almost pulled off a huge upset against Tiger Woods. Good for him...
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Shocking video shows death of Reuters cameraman
By David Edwards
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1289
Journalists in Gaza refused to report on military operations by Israeli Defense Forces today as a protest over the killing of Reuters cameraman.
According to Reuters, Fadel Shana, a Reuters photojournalist, was killed by Israeli troops while filming in Gaza Strip on April 16, 2008. Reuters reports that Shana had been following standard press procedure, wearing a flak jacked marked with press symbols. His vehicle was also clearly marked with press stickers.
Shana’s own video tape reveal the final moments before his death.
Reuters has more details here. An ABC News report on the journalists’ protest in Gaza is here.
This video is from ABCNews.com, broadcast June 16, 2008.
Sweet Home Al-Obama!
Colin Powell to endorse Obama?/Rips Bush!
http://gopnot4me.blogspot.com/2008/06/colin-powell-slams-bush-welcome-bu...
Not much of a golf fan, but I admit, it was riveting! Great playing, Rocco.
Here in San Diego county, everyone spoke of nothing else all weekend. We expect the Open will want to come back as soon as possible. The raves from the fans, players, and media keep comin'. It was the best Open in 48 years?!?
91 holes decided by a single stroke! Wow.
"Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence:
wealth without work,
pleasure without conscience,
knowledge without character,
commerce without morality,
science without humanity,
worship without sacrifice,
politics without principle."
-- Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
big golf fan and i have had the great experience of golfing torrey pines......beautiful place...tiger woods really is a freak of nature....the guy was limping around the course and still pulls it off....wow
GOPnot4me @ 3:
this is just trying to spoil the well. colon is a booshie. fuck him.
more idiots-
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN16353027?rpc=92
Robert Wexler's new book Fire Breathing Liberal gets good review by The Palm Beach Post.
From the review:
"Is George Bush crazy?" While visiting Syria, Wexler was asked that question by President Bashar al-Assad.
Wexler said he puzzled over the question and how to answer it. He decided it would be best to keep al-Assad guessing.
"I told Assad that he needed to understand that George Bush is capable of taking actions that other presidents might not contemplate."
GOPnot4me @ 5:
Now if we can just get those dips to quit yelling, "Get in the Hole!"! Damn.
via buzzflash
i believe al gore is a good guy....there were many mistakes during the 2000 campaign...he should have had b.clinton with him on the trail....he nominated obama today..2plus minute video
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84708&videoChannel=1
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 1:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
Mills Bros. - Hold That Tiger & I Ain't Got Nobody
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTyKPP2-B5k
GOPnot4me @ 3:
Obama and McSame couldn't be further apart on the issues. Powell needs to peddle his bs someplace else.
Every time the incompetent and inept right-wing Media tells a lie about Michelle Obama, just remember the truth about Cindy "The Lude" McCain.
karl @ 13:
His speech was fantastic tonight. Tomorrow, Hannity will be whining that Gore was ranting. Hannity still can't pass the insanity test.
fastfeat @ 10:
Forgot the link:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/content/opinion/epaper/2008/06/15/bo...
tigers like to play with their prey before finishing them off.
Like many casual golf fans, I love Tiger. But seeing Rocco, in a very prominent pairing on Sunday, wearing a belt with a huge peace sign as the buckle, made me really pull for him. I think that said quite a bit about the kind of man he is. Today he showed what a lot of guys on the tour already knew, he got game!
Ron @ 18:
Gore has become one of the best speakers for the progressive viewpoint in recent memory. If he had sounded like this eight years ago, we'd all be better off.
Great golf match. Hat tip to both though more so to Rocco.
And though he's the best player in the world Tiger behaved like an asshole. Not so much today but yesterdays throwing clubs was way out of line.
I like Tiger but it grows at little tiresome with the announces fawning over him.
Stop the club throwing Tiger. We don't allow it in our group and we're hacks.
And sign some autographs for the kids.
Hitting a clutch 12-foot putt to force an 18-hole playoff? Damn.
Hitting yet another clutch putt to put the match into sudden death? DAMN!
Doing it all on a knee that looked like it could double as a construction pylon on I-5? Dude, this guy isn't human!
EW @ 21:
I was able to watch and play a game that was interactive over the last 3 days. Came in 10th globally. I'm a hack that's played a total of 2 times this year.
Golf. Golf? Golf?
One of the single most reprehensible abuses, among so many to choose from, is the continual panicmongering from the White House everyday since Sept. 11, 2001 but 2008 will bring down a rain of Repug rejection all across the country.
Thomas Paine
dada @ 16:
As a disabled vet from another time, I still have a certain regard for the General that is not easily shaken.
xoming in second to the best, after pushing him to limits only he can reach, is maybe the best thing for rocco.
he played more like imediate, than mediate.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 29:
He came back in the back nine to gain the lead. He blew a 20' put on the 18th and then went to pieces on the 7th. He was game and he put on one hell of a show.
Trekkie @ 24:
It didn't quite happen that way. The putt to put the match into sudden death was only a 4 footer.
Not saying he isn't a clutch player. He is. And don't know about the knee. Played once with a friend who had a 3 inch hemorrhoid hanging and killing him. And he shot the lights out.
The pain and uncertainty kind of keeps your head down.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 29:
Rocco...what's not to love.
Great job. It's nice to see some joy and perspective from a pro golfer.
jharp @ 31:
He was probably watching the hemorrhoid. Helped him keep his head down.
interesting article sent to me-
When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a
very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos
as they pull a genuine September Surprise.
I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee.
Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in
November.
Here's how it could happen:
At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided
that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will
be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen
him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And
anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are
grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.
But excuses or facts hardly matters. He won't be accepting his party's
nomination.
The reasons are simple. He can't win. Now that Obama is the presumptive
Democratic nominee -- the polls all show that McCain's pro-war stance and
Bush endorsement make him a lost cause in November. That combined with soft
stand on litmus test conservative issues make him an unpopular candidate
among the base. I know some Democrats that think the Republicans are
planning to let McCain lose and 'sit this one out' so that they can hang the
democrats with a bad economy and a war that is a morass. But that just isn't
how they play. They play to win every hand -- think about 2000 with a
popular Democratic president and good economy and a solid VP running for
president. Why did they put up Bush? And why did they fight so hard? Because
you don't ever throw a game. And they're not going to throw this one.
McCain won't be the nominee.
By August, they'll have done something to try and pick away at Obama's
popularity. They'll emphasize race, or whatever they can to get him to
appear less than perfect. Then, they'll bring out of the woodwork a surprise
candidate who can shift the story fast. With just two months before the
election -- the new candidate will have little time to be 'vetted' but will
be shiny and new, and will get a lot of media attention as Obama's newness
will have become -- by then -- tarnished or at least no longer the surprise
that it has been as he unseated Hillary.
So, who will be the Republican candidate that faces Obama in the fall?
I've spoken to a number of friends who -- when presented with this set of
facts respond: "but they don't have anybody else." That's simply not the
case.
Joe Trippi, campaign consultant and most notably Howard Dean's campaign
manager, said of McCain dropping out: "While crazy, this may be the best
shot they have."
There are a whole list of Republicans who in many ways are more likely to
energize the Republican base. One thing is certain -- there are candidates
that will play to the core issues in ways that McCain simply can't.
Here's a list of names. Some you know, some you don't. But each of them
knows their name is in play. Among them --
Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. Of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)
Ok, go ahead knock them down. One by one. See if you can really remove ALL
these names from a list of candidates that are more likely to give Obama a
run for his money. They'll come on the scene late, with a press corps that
is looking for a horse race and a new story. Obama's frontrunner status will
be upset, and there will be a set of variables that need to be calculated --
and tested against a weary electorate.
Is this supposition? Sure, but one grounded with enough history and
observation to take it beyond conjecture and into the realm of the possible.
So -- before the Democrats go and game out how to beat McCain, it may be worth thinking about what happens when he says he won't accept the nomination. For the Republicans, a wide open convention would be both good theater and good politics.
Ron @ 30:
I wouldn't say he went to pieces. The 7th doesn't set up well for his draw. And that is exactly what cost him when he drew his drive into the bunker.
Just like 18 sets up better for Tiger.
It was an extraordinary display by Rocco. Made one hell of a challenge to the best player in the world and came up a tad short.
jharp @ 23:
With all due respect, I'm getting tired of these debates about how much "passion" an athlete is allowed to show. Woods took way too much heat in the first part of his career for showing too little emotion.
Even some of the greatest gentleman golfers to ever play the game have had days where they have picked up a wedge and tossed into yonder pond. Or let fly a stream of invective that would make a sailor blush. It happens, especially when you're talking about one of the biggest tournaments of the year.
jharp @ 31:
Less reruns and more reading comprehension Trekkie. It did happen that way.
McCain continues to lie
while Bush continues to fail
to convince Iraqis to extend the occupation past Dec. 31. The Dems will defy Bush on jobless benefits extension. A pro-Bush evangelical likes Obama. Little Elian has grown up into a Commie Youth. The Taliban swiped some villages during their jail break. Unlike Bush, other politicians deal with reality, and consider inflation a bad thing.
A soldier who got hurt before he even got into battle is getting screwed out of disability checks. Doctors fight back by rating insurers. Bernanke says we need better health care. Bush could lose 26 more levees
before his term is over. Shoppers are paying for oil directly and indirectly.
GOPnot4me @ 22:
i feel his latest accomplishments are misunderstood.....the global warming....is also about the race to acquire natural resources how that will affect the planet as well as man kind against each other...to me that was part of the reason he was awarded the nobel peace prize...but the right get's into the tie dye t-shirt enviromentalist liberal theme
diana @ 34:
Nice theory but, I don't think they want to win this one. They think they know how short our memorys are and think that they will be able to return to power in 2012. They think we are stupid. Let us never forget.
Top ten freaks of sports : athletes who made you go "Whoa!"
10) Ty Cobb
9) Pele
8) Tiger Woods
7) Shoeless Joe Jackson
6) Secretariat
5) Ben Hogan
4) Wayne Gretzky
3) Joe Montana
2) Jesse Owens
1) Michael Jordan
seevee and trekkie,
The putt to send it into sudden death was a four footer.
And I've got no problem showing emotion and enthusiasm but. Our high school leagues and tournaments around here you are assessed a two shot penalty for club throwing. And I've personally witnessed fellow competitors hit by thrown clubs.
It's out of line. Get ready for your next shot.
Gore waits eight years too late to bash Bush. Military lawyers warned
the SS, I mean the Pentagon, about torture.
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 40:
Babe Zaharis? Could we bump the horse for her?
Reuters responds to army probe
(01:47) Report
Jun. 16 - A Pentagon investigation said US soldiers who killed a Reuters journalist in Iraq acted within military rules.
Reuters Editor-in-Chief David Schlesinger said that while he disagreed with the Pentagon's findings he appreciated the inspector general's recommendation that the US military in Iraq work with media organizations on safety procedures to avoid similar incidents.
Reuters Television soundman Waleed Khaled was filming the aftermath of an insurgent ambush on Iraqi police when his car was fired at.
All apologies Trekkie. It was jharp who doesn't get it.
Your comments about the two clutch putts were dead on.
As if a four footer can't be a clutch putt.
LOL It's the F'ing US Open.
seevee @ 43:
What about Ali and Frazier. There are hundreds of others.
i am trying to stomach listening to hannity keep saying we need to drill in ANWR........mccain voted against drilling their......he has had plenty of guest even that weirdo dick morris say it's speculation should have seen hannity's face....
karl @ 47:
Nah, I'll pass. Seen it too many times. Makes me want to get violent and I'm a peaceful person. Can only take so much.
Ron @ 46:
...and some of them might even be women!
Thank God for Tiger Wood's win.
He's got a family to provide for now, you know.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 1:
This is neither surprising nor new to anyone who objectively follows what's going on.
The IsraeliTerrorist Force, the ITF, has a long history of targeting foreign journalists, a tactic the US emulated during the occupation of Iraq. It's a direct parallel to how the ITF taught the US how to torture and humiliate muslims (e.g. Koran "abuse") at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere.
Ron @ 46:
Makes me go WHOA!!
LongTooth @ 51:
Doesn't Rocco have family?
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 40:
wilt chamberlain
mickey mantle
willie mays
pete rose (the player)
magic johnson (now there's a name and a legend)
larry bird
jerry west
nolan ryan
sandy koufax (the most brilliant 5-year stretch in baseball history)
.
.
BTW, michael jordan also had the 2nd best player in basketball on his team. that doesn't count?
maybe you're not old enough.
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 14:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
It was also suicidal, parking your car in a lane then popping your head and body above a hedge line.
It could be asked why the media reports anything on Israel at all if they dont like the treatment of Gaza, better to boycott them 100%.
Then again the journalists in Gaza and Lebanon tread a fine line between recording the various abuses, stories and general day to day stuff, and then its career building time to get a better job outside the war zones.
Its a dangerous job, accidents and deliberate targeting of journalists both happens.
Proud2bHumble @ 53:
Knocks it out of the park and my eyeballs.
Ron @ 46:
Uhhh no.
The nature of top ten lists is that they only have ten.
Any top ten list of "freaks of sports" should include Babe Zaharias.
http://www.babedidriksonzaharias.org/achievements.cfm
Ron @ 47:
you're right!
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
rocky marciano
sugar ray robinson
carlos monzon
marvelous hagler
sugar ray leonard
roberto duran
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 14:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
Plain f*cked-up! Surprised they let the ambulance get away.
seevee @ 58:
One upmanship will always prevail.
Proud2bHumble @ 53:
OOOHH!!!!!
I'm taking a cold shower, NOW!!!!!!!!!
Top Ten Top Ten Lists
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 62:
Baby got Back...hand!
seevee @ 46:
Then Rocco made the clutch putt to send it to sudden death.
He made a four footer on eighteen AFTER Tiger made his.
What is it I don't get?
Ron @ 61:
and oneupwomanship in this case is unparalleled, period.
Proud2bHumble @ 63:
Whoa, how did filibuster get in there? Now we're getting somewhere.
casper46 @ 60:
Plain f*cked-up! Surprised they let the ambulance get away.
prob was an accident rather than planned.
planned would have taken out everybody at the scene and follow up.
seevee @ 64:
the williams sisters did bring a lot to tennis.
And I'm damn glad of it!!!!!!!!!!
Proud2bHumble @ 63:
Yo, homeslice. nice pic. DAMN!!! You got taste! :<[)
Everybody in the world has probably seen this but what the hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OmnP527Dw Warning Language!!!
jharp @ 65:
Forget it. Sorry I was rude. Great golf match. One for the ages.
gna.
thanks for the cheeks, P2B. Ouch! Damn! Whew!
*wipes forehead*
Great Open. Was nice to see Tiger pushed for a change. Was nicer to see a guy like Rocco doing it too. Golf needs more loosey goosey guys like Rocco. Great way to show kids that the game is more fun when approached with a sense of humour. I heard one astounding stat over the weekend. The fact that Jack Nicklaus finished in the top ten 73 times in Majors.
They said Tiger would have to finish top ten in every major till the year 2019 just to catch him. I think thats one that Jack just might hang on to. Hat tip to my hometown hero David Hearn from Canada here who had a decent tourny but missed cut by 2 strokes. Very enjoyable Open though. Back to Bethpage next year where they have 250 yard plus carries just to get to some fairways. Short hitters like Rocco probably wont be so much in the mix there.
need a few diggs and some more rude songs posted please :)
seevee,
Thanks and no problem. Very exciting match. I was nervous and I didn't even have to make the four footers.
Which I certainly would have missed.
Peter G @ 71: <