Sometimes, the irony is so overwhelming, I have to wonder if it’s some kind of satirical performance art, and I’m just not in on the joke. Consider this fascinating exchange between Bill O’Reilly and Karl Rove on Fox News last night:
There are two key angles to this. First, the NYT article did, in fact, identify the CIA interrogator who questioned Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. The article characterizes him as one of the good guys, gaining information through non-abusive means. Indeed, the interrogator, who refused training on how to waterboard a detainee, established a rapport with the terrorist — which “astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers” — by talking and bringing KSM food. The article, in other words, wasn’t a slam job.
So why include his name? It was a judgment call, but the Times explained that the interrogator “had never worked under cover and that others involved in the campaign against Al Qaeda have been named in news stories and books. The editors judged that the name was necessary for the credibility and completeness of the article.” Whether one finds this responsible or not is open to debate.
But for Karl Rove to have the chutzpah to lambaste the Times for this is extraordinary.
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Primus. One would expect anything different from this human pustule?
And we’re surprised by this?
Rove should be indicted in the Plame matter.
Rought transcript:
Bill O’: quack quack quack quack quack
Rove: wonka wonka wonka
Bill O’: quack?
Rove: wonka!
Fab.
The audacity of the little puke never ceases to amaze me. He’s the master of projection, not to mention a very sick and twisted man.
Oh, Karl! Shut up please!
arrogant hypocrite
crooks and liars posts the latest “outrage”
we respond with “is any one surprised?”
next day repeat and rinse….
what a fucking tired scenario
Dang, did those two make out in O,Reillys, dressing room after that love fest?
Wow! Absolutely zero Journalistic integrity by O’Reilly………..unfriggin’ believable.
The Bush Rovers have no ethics or morals.
This statement by Mr. Rove is comparable to statements made by Pres. Mugabe and his cohorts.
The ends always justifies the means. It not about governance, but rather the retention of power.
Just as the country club demockrats eschew the constitution in the FISA roll over. Good doggie, fetch, now sit and beg.
So the White House is trying to clean up loose ends.
And Scotty McClellan is making the gang look bad.
What to do?
Ask your friends at the New York Times to write an article about interrogation. Tell them to include the name of a CIA agent (real or fictional, it makes no difference) in an article.
Then step back and point at the Grey Lady with an accusing finger.
See? They expose agents too.
Sometimes you just gotta make your own counterspin.
one word………HYPOCRITE
aster @ 8:
Do you have any suggestions as to another set of actions or circumstances.
Karl, you put the “unmitigated” in gall.
plump pale maggot
I’m outing Rove right now-
He is a War Criminal and a turd.
The difference? No one was killed by this outing. Not that sure about KKKarl and Plame.
Read # 11 again.
Heraclitus is right on the money.
The last 12 seconds says it all. Of course neither of these sociopaths see it, but then that’s the nature of a sociopath isn’t it? By definition O’Reilly and Rove are classic examples.
“Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others”
Mickxotic @ 15:
pug nosed puffed up putz.
Every time Rove opens his mouth a monster turd falls out
Typical. Turn the accusation to the accusers.
“They think you, Mr. Rove, put the country at risk”. “everyday”
Well of course, if the other side does it it’s indefensible treason!
If your side does it, there’s an explanation: “one of the good guys, gaining information through non-abusive means. Indeed, the interrogator, who refused training on how to waterboard a detainee, established a rapport with the terrorist — which “astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers” — by talking and bringing KSM food”
The only thing that I’m perplexed by- The NYT is on your side?
Buon giorno America, I see that Hypocrisy is still running rampant in the GOP.
Are the news channels covering this stuff, and if so is everyone laughing?
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maybe the secret to being Karl Rove is enjoying blatant hypocrisy.
♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 24:
Keith Olberman did this evening.
Sorry… I can’t even bear to open the video file… that’s how badly KKKarl Rove turns my gut inside out.
And let me also add this: I haven’t seen or heard of ANY content this man has offered in the last two years that was worth a bucket of warm spit.
Ahh, the continuing wonders of Turd Blossom. May all your omnipresent lies and deceit deliver you from the fruitful jail cell.
Heraclitus @ 11:
you may be right but Rove is not off the hook which i know your not saying………this is the neo-republican game spread the blame…they throw shxt at me i’ll throw shxt at them….. will both smell like shxt
Radically Moderate @ 27:
It’s shameful if only Keith aired this story. I saw it on CNNI and the guy reading the story could hardly hold back his chuckles.
The SOB who outed the COVERT agent who was working on keeping IRAN from getting NUCLEAR materials is pissing and moaning because of THIS??? I think what really bothers him is that the guy wasn’t using torture. That makes bushco look bad.
In respect of C&Ls policies I won’t say what I want to but it involves rove, a rope and a tree. And several hundred million Americans.
for shame on Karl Rove for the obvious. But twice the shame goes to the pretend journalist o’reilley for not having the ethics even if he is a pretend newsperson to ask the question. The question is merely one of connecting the dots, even our ignorant middle america can do that…maybe.
Hate to sterotype; Paunchy pasty face chickenhawks rule the world.
#8 Aster (sorry to feed the trolls) What a tired scenario…etc…Think of this as some sort of support group. I suggest that most of the people here are pacifists. Some have been that way most of their lives (me) and some have been forced into situations where they were compelled to kill others as a simple act of survival and to protect their brothers. The “powers that be” have decided that they will not listen to us. Which clears the way for others, who have the same sense of outrage - but no particular need for pacifism. Revolution is never a pretty process. I fear that which is to come, but I am not surprised.
republican hypocrisy never ends, talk about the pot calling the kettel black? wow.
♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 31:
I caught CBS and nothing. Ditto for CNN. I haven’t checked their website, but I’m not holding my breath.
It’s funny that KKKarl talks about ‘country club people’ when he drives a Jaguar (remember there were pics of his car when the W.H. staff ‘decorated’ it for him on his last day?), and it’s a known fact that Jaguar designs all their trunks to be able to hold at least one set of golf clubs, and they tout that as a selling feature to the type of people likely to buy a fucking Jaguar. Like KKKarl.
aster @ 8:
Seriously. Can we start building the guillotines already? I’m bored.
put o’reilly and rxve in a hot tub and toss them a plugged in hair dryer……..i can’t wait for these two to go away
Pimp Rove exposed under cover agent, Valery Plame,
as spiteful payback for something that went against
his grain,putting her life in danger. That is the way
this venomous snake operates.
We donot know why The NY Times published the
the CIA interrogator’s name.
These people have gone from batshit crazy to ape-shit insane.
I can not believe anybody takes them serious.
An individual would have to be opperationg at a severe mental deficit
in order to believe their garbage.
Pfeh. It has been established that Karl Rove’s chutzpah will not be exhausted for even centuries after he has died. The NYT should have put a postscript on the piece that they knew he’d flip, but their judgment was that it was the right thing to do in the circumstance. No brainer.
Hubris is and easy thing to have when one has no shame and no conscience.
Pot, meet Kettle!
Dead ringer for “Piggy” from “Lord of the Flies”
Turd blossom doesn’t even have a college degreee.
He’ll talk to O’Reilly but not Congress? Hmm.
B
they were teammates once, when they outed plame.
wha’ happen’?
Actually….I just read the article tonight and I have to say that for once I agree with Rove, not that I don’t think it takes a lot of gall for him to be the one to say it. For all the times the Administration has fraudulently used “national security” as an excuse to keep its own misdeeds hidden, I thought this was actually a legitimate case of Too Much Information. They they revealed a lot of things they shouldn’t have, both about how Al Qaeda works and how the CIA works. And the article purported to argue both sides of the torture issue, but it also suggested that KSM MIGHT have flipped because of the torture, or because of the combination of torture and psychologically astute interrogation. There was no example described in the article of an Al Qaeda operative revealing crucial information after being interrogated without being tortured first. Maybe this was a case of clever counterspin, as someone a few comments ahead of me suggested.
RCanaga @ 44:
kettle, meet pot.
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Up is down, in is out, white is black, day is night . . . .
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I bet it isn’t the interrogator’s real name.
Did anyone else notice Rove’s anal sphincter tighten when Billo said “Plame” towards the end? It was like someone electrocuted his… oh, nevermind.
Waitaminnit…
Isnt that how american and british interrogators got information out of captured nazi officers? they established a repoire with them and got the officers to trust the interrogators to a point where they felt they could speak freely…and gave up vital information….
so…what wouldve happened if we’d used torture instead?
the hue of deputy chief of staff’s tie would seem to indicate he owes no allegiance to democrats, republicans, greens, gays, libertarians or black panthers.
the yellow must surely either indicate a yellow belly coward or a man tap-dancing on the sunny side of the street in his pennyloafers ’cause he just spilled the beans on the entire neocon racket…
any thoughts? i’m a coupla cans short of a 6-pack tonight so i may not be providing the most sage insight…
Mickxotic @ 35:
“troll”? moi?
support group or whiners anonymous?
i have no “fix” or solution for any of this,just made an observation
of what happens daily here at this site..
guess im one of the anonymous whiners..
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there will be no revolution
those times are over
we are fat and lazy and addicted
…
now take away our gadgets and fast food and i bet youll see real revolt
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for now just shut up (not you specifically mixcotic) and take it