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    Karl Rove lashes out at NYT for identifying CIA agent

    Sometimes, the irony is so overwhelming, I have to wonder if it’s some kind of satirical performance art, and I’m just not in on the joke. Consider this fascinating exchange between Bill O’Reilly and Karl Rove on Fox News last night:

    There are two key angles to this. First, the NYT article did, in fact, identify the CIA interrogator who questioned Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. The article characterizes him as one of the good guys, gaining information through non-abusive means. Indeed, the interrogator, who refused training on how to waterboard a detainee, established a rapport with the terrorist — which “astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers” — by talking and bringing KSM food. The article, in other words, wasn’t a slam job.

    So why include his name? It was a judgment call, but the Times explained that the interrogator “had never worked under cover and that others involved in the campaign against Al Qaeda have been named in news stories and books. The editors judged that the name was necessary for the credibility and completeness of the article.” Whether one finds this responsible or not is open to debate.

    But for Karl Rove to have the chutzpah to lambaste the Times for this is extraordinary.




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    110 Responses for “Karl Rove lashes out at NYT for identifying CIA agent”
    1
    Mickxotic Says:

    Primus. One would expect anything different from this human pustule?

    2
    hmoore Says:

    And we’re surprised by this?

    3
    Alice X Says:

    Rove should be indicted in the Plame matter.

    4
    Bob Says:

    Rought transcript:

    Bill O’: quack quack quack quack quack
    Rove: wonka wonka wonka
    Bill O’: quack?
    Rove: wonka!

    Fab.

    5
    Spicegal Says:

    The audacity of the little puke never ceases to amaze me. He’s the master of projection, not to mention a very sick and twisted man.

    6
    ABB Says:

    Oh, Karl! Shut up please!

    7
    j swift Says:

    arrogant hypocrite

    8
    aster Says:

    crooks and liars posts the latest “outrage”

    we respond with “is any one surprised?”

    next day repeat and rinse….

    what a fucking tired scenario

    9
    Radically Moderate Says:

    Dang, did those two make out in O,Reillys, dressing room after that love fest?
    Wow! Absolutely zero Journalistic integrity by O’Reilly………..unfriggin’ believable.

    10
    Ace Armstrong Says:

    The Bush Rovers have no ethics or morals.
    This statement by Mr. Rove is comparable to statements made by Pres. Mugabe and his cohorts.
    The ends always justifies the means. It not about governance, but rather the retention of power.
    Just as the country club demockrats eschew the constitution in the FISA roll over. Good doggie, fetch, now sit and beg.

    11
    Heraclitus Says:

    So the White House is trying to clean up loose ends.
    And Scotty McClellan is making the gang look bad.
    What to do?
    Ask your friends at the New York Times to write an article about interrogation. Tell them to include the name of a CIA agent (real or fictional, it makes no difference) in an article.
    Then step back and point at the Grey Lady with an accusing finger.
    See? They expose agents too.
    Sometimes you just gotta make your own counterspin.

    12
    karl Says:

    one word………HYPOCRITE

    13
    Orangutan. Says:

    aster @ 8:

    crooks and liars posts the latest “outrage”

    we respond with “is any one surprised?”

    next day repeat and rinse….

    what a fucking tired scenario

    Do you have any suggestions as to another set of actions or circumstances.

    14
    pinkobait Says:

    Karl, you put the “unmitigated” in gall.

    15
    Mickxotic Says:

    plump pale maggot

    16
    BennyP Says:

    I’m outing Rove right now-
    He is a War Criminal and a turd.

    17
    casper46 Says:

    The difference? No one was killed by this outing. Not that sure about KKKarl and Plame.

    18
    Jo Says:

    Read # 11 again.
    Heraclitus is right on the money.

    19
    Mike Says:

    The last 12 seconds says it all. Of course neither of these sociopaths see it, but then that’s the nature of a sociopath isn’t it? By definition O’Reilly and Rove are classic examples.
    “Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others”

    20
    pinkobait Says:

    Mickxotic @ 15:

    plump pale maggot

    pug nosed puffed up putz.

    21
    VegasRage Says:

    Every time Rove opens his mouth a monster turd falls out

    22
    Boop Says:

    Typical. Turn the accusation to the accusers.

    “They think you, Mr. Rove, put the country at risk”. “everyday”

    23
    jitter Says:

    Well of course, if the other side does it it’s indefensible treason!
    If your side does it, there’s an explanation: “one of the good guys, gaining information through non-abusive means. Indeed, the interrogator, who refused training on how to waterboard a detainee, established a rapport with the terrorist — which “astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers” — by talking and bringing KSM food”

    The only thing that I’m perplexed by- The NYT is on your side?

    24
    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ Says:

    Buon giorno America, I see that Hypocrisy is still running rampant in the GOP.
    Are the news channels covering this stuff, and if so is everyone laughing?

    25
    Boop Says:

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    Why? Since when?

    [Checking it out. Site Monitor]

    26
    fresh fruit Says:

    maybe the secret to being Karl Rove is enjoying blatant hypocrisy.

    27
    Radically Moderate Says:

    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 24:

    Buon giorno America, I see that Hypocrisy is still running rampant in the GOP.
    Are the news channels covering this stuff, and if so is everyone laughing?

    Keith Olberman did this evening.

    28
    CowBoy Bob in Austin Says:

    Sorry… I can’t even bear to open the video file… that’s how badly KKKarl Rove turns my gut inside out.

    And let me also add this: I haven’t seen or heard of ANY content this man has offered in the last two years that was worth a bucket of warm spit.

    29
    lex Says:

    Ahh, the continuing wonders of Turd Blossom. May all your omnipresent lies and deceit deliver you from the fruitful jail cell.

    30
    karl Says:

    Heraclitus @ 11:

    So the White House is trying to clean up loose ends.
    And Scotty McClellan is making the gang look bad.
    What to do?
    Ask your friends at the New York Times to write an article about interrogation. Tell them to include the name of a CIA agent (real or fictional, it makes no difference) in an article.
    Then step back and point at the Grey Lady with an accusing finger.
    See? They expose agents too.
    Sometimes you just gotta make your own counterspin.

    you may be right but Rove is not off the hook which i know your not saying………this is the neo-republican game spread the blame…they throw shxt at me i’ll throw shxt at them….. will both smell like shxt

    31
    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ Says:

    Radically Moderate @ 27:

    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 24:

    Buon giorno America, I see that Hypocrisy is still running rampant in the GOP.
    Are the news channels covering this stuff, and if so is everyone laughing?

    Keith Olberman did this evening.

    It’s shameful if only Keith aired this story. I saw it on CNNI and the guy reading the story could hardly hold back his chuckles.

    32
    Terrible Says:

    The SOB who outed the COVERT agent who was working on keeping IRAN from getting NUCLEAR materials is pissing and moaning because of THIS??? I think what really bothers him is that the guy wasn’t using torture. That makes bushco look bad.

    In respect of C&Ls policies I won’t say what I want to but it involves rove, a rope and a tree. And several hundred million Americans.

    33
    no longer a proud american Says:

    for shame on Karl Rove for the obvious. But twice the shame goes to the pretend journalist o’reilley for not having the ethics even if he is a pretend newsperson to ask the question. The question is merely one of connecting the dots, even our ignorant middle america can do that…maybe.

    34
    harley Says:

    Hate to sterotype; Paunchy pasty face chickenhawks rule the world.

    35
    Mickxotic Says:

    #8 Aster (sorry to feed the trolls) What a tired scenario…etc…Think of this as some sort of support group. I suggest that most of the people here are pacifists. Some have been that way most of their lives (me) and some have been forced into situations where they were compelled to kill others as a simple act of survival and to protect their brothers. The “powers that be” have decided that they will not listen to us. Which clears the way for others, who have the same sense of outrage - but no particular need for pacifism. Revolution is never a pretty process. I fear that which is to come, but I am not surprised.

    36
    jnratliff Says:

    republican hypocrisy never ends, talk about the pot calling the kettel black? wow.

    37
    Gretchen Says:

    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 31:

    Radically Moderate @ 27:

    ♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 24:

    Buon giorno America, I see that Hypocrisy is still running rampant in the GOP.
    Are the news channels covering this stuff, and if so is everyone laughing?

    Keith Olberman did this evening.

    It’s shameful if only Keith aired this story. I saw it on CNNI and the guy reading the story could hardly hold back his chuckles.

    I caught CBS and nothing. Ditto for CNN. I haven’t checked their website, but I’m not holding my breath.

    38
    chris [not the troll] Says:

    It’s funny that KKKarl talks about ‘country club people’ when he drives a Jaguar (remember there were pics of his car when the W.H. staff ‘decorated’ it for him on his last day?), and it’s a known fact that Jaguar designs all their trunks to be able to hold at least one set of golf clubs, and they tout that as a selling feature to the type of people likely to buy a fucking Jaguar. Like KKKarl.

    aster @ 8:

    crooks and liars posts the latest “outrage”

    we respond with “is any one surprised?”

    next day repeat and rinse….

    what a fucking tired scenario

    Seriously. Can we start building the guillotines already? I’m bored.

    39
    karl Says:

    put o’reilly and rxve in a hot tub and toss them a plugged in hair dryer……..i can’t wait for these two to go away

    40
    Cycle3man Says:

    Pimp Rove exposed under cover agent, Valery Plame,
    as spiteful payback for something that went against
    his grain,putting her life in danger. That is the way
    this venomous snake operates.

    We donot know why The NY Times published the
    the CIA interrogator’s name.

    41
    wheeee Says:

    These people have gone from batshit crazy to ape-shit insane.
    I can not believe anybody takes them serious.
    An individual would have to be opperationg at a severe mental deficit
    in order to believe their garbage.

    42
    99 Says:

    Pfeh. It has been established that Karl Rove’s chutzpah will not be exhausted for even centuries after he has died. The NYT should have put a postscript on the piece that they knew he’d flip, but their judgment was that it was the right thing to do in the circumstance. No brainer.

    43
    LibertyLover Says:

    Hubris is and easy thing to have when one has no shame and no conscience.

    44
    RCanaga Says:

    Pot, meet Kettle!

    45
    Maldoror_Is_Ded_Ded_Ded Says:

    Dead ringer for “Piggy” from “Lord of the Flies”

    46
    Fast Emma Hussein Goldman Says:

    Turd blossom doesn’t even have a college degreee.

    47
    Bored Says:

    He’ll talk to O’Reilly but not Congress? Hmm.

    B

    they were teammates once, when they outed plame.

    wha’ happen’?

    49
    jackiesshrink Says:

    Actually….I just read the article tonight and I have to say that for once I agree with Rove, not that I don’t think it takes a lot of gall for him to be the one to say it. For all the times the Administration has fraudulently used “national security” as an excuse to keep its own misdeeds hidden, I thought this was actually a legitimate case of Too Much Information. They they revealed a lot of things they shouldn’t have, both about how Al Qaeda works and how the CIA works. And the article purported to argue both sides of the torture issue, but it also suggested that KSM MIGHT have flipped because of the torture, or because of the combination of torture and psychologically astute interrogation. There was no example described in the article of an Al Qaeda operative revealing crucial information after being interrogated without being tortured first. Maybe this was a case of clever counterspin, as someone a few comments ahead of me suggested.

    RCanaga @ 44:

    Pot, meet Kettle!

    kettle, meet pot.
    :<[)

    51
    Trittydi Says:

    Up is down, in is out, white is black, day is night . . . .
    *

    I bet it isn’t the interrogator’s real name.

    53
    Thorson Welles Says:

    Did anyone else notice Rove’s anal sphincter tighten when Billo said “Plame” towards the end? It was like someone electrocuted his… oh, nevermind.

    54
    David Hill Says:

    Waitaminnit…

    Isnt that how american and british interrogators got information out of captured nazi officers? they established a repoire with them and got the officers to trust the interrogators to a point where they felt they could speak freely…and gave up vital information….

    so…what wouldve happened if we’d used torture instead?

    55
    bullfrog Says:

    the hue of deputy chief of staff’s tie would seem to indicate he owes no allegiance to democrats, republicans, greens, gays, libertarians or black panthers.

    the yellow must surely either indicate a yellow belly coward or a man tap-dancing on the sunny side of the street in his pennyloafers ’cause he just spilled the beans on the entire neocon racket…

    any thoughts? i’m a coupla cans short of a 6-pack tonight so i may not be providing the most sage insight…

    56
    aster Says:

    Mickxotic @ 35:

    #8 Aster (sorry to feed the trolls) What a tired scenario…etc…Think of this as some sort of support group. I suggest that most of the people here are pacifists. Some have been that way most of their lives (me) and some have been forced into situations where they were compelled to kill others as a simple act of survival and to protect their brothers. The “powers that be” have decided that they will not listen to us. Which clears the way for others, who have the same sense of outrage - but no particular need for pacifism. Revolution is never a pretty process. I fear that which is to come, but I am not surprised.

    “troll”? moi?
    support group or whiners anonymous?
    i have no “fix” or solution for any of this,just made an observation
    of what happens daily here at this site..
    guess im one of the anonymous whiners..
    ..
    there will be no revolution
    those times are over
    we are fat and lazy and addicted

    now take away our gadgets and fast food and i bet youll see real revolt

    for now just shut up (not you specifically mixcotic) and take it