Face The Nation: Lieberman Says Obama's Plan For Iraq Would Give Iran and Al Qaeda Control
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jun 28, 2008 4:00pm
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McSame's BFF Sen. Joe Lieberman appeared on Face The Nation to talk up McCain and his plan for Iraq, using those same old tired Republican talking points, which as we all know, are less than factually-based:
SCHIEFFER: That of course begs the question if he's ready to be president. Do you believe that Barack Obama is not ready to be president?
LIEBERMAN: Let me put it affirmatively, which is what I really mean, because ultimately, we rarely make a choice between perfect and terrible. John McCain is more ready to be President, on foreign and domestic policy, because of his extraordinary experience. And it's good experience. It's experience where he's had the guts to do what's right for his country, including in Iraq, where he opposed the administration's policy for a long time. The surge was implemented by President Bush, it's now working. Senator Obama, unfortunately, like a lot of the Democratic leadership, continues to take a position that we ought to withdraw, which to me is "retreat, accept defeat" even though the new policy is working. I hope that Barack Obama goes to Iraq and frankly, I hope he changes his position, because if we had done what Senator Obama asked us to do for the last couple of years, today, Iran and al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq. It would be a terrible defeat for us and our allies in the Middle East and throughout the world. Instead, we have a country that's defending itself, that's growing economically, where there's been genuine political reconciliation and where Iran and al Qaeda are on the run. And that's the way it ought to be.
SCHIEFFER: You're saying if we had done a drawdown, as Senator Obama had suggested, that Iran would now be in control of Iraq?
LIEBERMAN: Yeah, and here's what I mean: And it's not just Sen. Obama, it's generally the leadership of the Democratic Party. On this issue, I respectfully but deeply disagreed. Because, they were saying a year ago, two years ago, Iraq was lost. They were saying...they were proposing amendments that would have ordered our withdrawal, a retreat of our forces, to begin and end rather rapidly. If that had happened, in Iraq today, there wouldn't be an Iraqi government, there'd be chaos, there'd probably be genocide, definitely civil war. And the main beneficiaries of that would be Iran and al Qaeda. Instead, al Qaeda is on the run, and on the verge of a terrible defeat, one of our most significant victories over them since 9/11, maybe the most significant. Iran is being pushed back. And just a couple of weeks ago, Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq went to Tehran and Ahmadinejad and the Supreme Leader Khamenei pleaded with Maliki, "don't enter into a long term strategic agreement with America," and he said, "sorry, folks, I want to have good neighborly relations with you, but the Americans are our friends. We appreciate what they've done for us and we're sticking with them."
You know what they say, denial ain't just a river in Egypt. But I have to hold up this lovely little soundbyte as the MOST egregious:
(The Democratic leadership in Congress) were proposing amendments that would have ordered our withdrawal, a retreat of our forces, to begin and end rather rapidly. If that had happened, in Iraq today, there wouldn't be an Iraqi government, there'd be chaos, there'd probably be genocide, definitely civil war
Reality to Lieberman: There IS chaos, there IS genocide and what the hell do you think the combat is but a civil war?
The first question is:
Why should anyone listen to him?
LIEbermann is breaking out the 2003 GOPig talking points.
What a STUPID STUPID IDIOT LIEbermann has become
LIEberman is just another reichwingneocon piece of shit.
he wants a war with iran, so send him there and let
him fend for himself. he is totally unAmerican.
The fact that Iran and al Quaeda have been given huge boosts in prestige, popularity and control by our atrocities in the Middle East has totally escaped L'mn's attention. That's typical of one issue pols.
Obama's move to the center isn't as bad as we think. Hopefully, it will keep LIEberman and the rest of them down and out.
What is he smoking? What does he call what's going on in Iraq now? Iraq has been in a civil war, which we helped create, for several years now. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been killed, wounded and displaced. And it's our presence that's helping fuel the civil war.
There is no legitimate Iraqi government. There's the government we installed. And the Dawa Party, the Maliki government, we installed has close ties to Iran. Iran is benefiting because we invaded Iraq and installed the Maliki government. We removed Iran's nemesis for them and empowered Iran.
Al Qaeda is NOT on the run. They and the Taliban are positioned to take over Peshawar in Pakistan, and they've regained control of most of Afghanistan. More US troops just died in Afghanistan than in Iraq.
I thought it was because of Dubya's plan for Iraq that Iran and Al Queda are going to have a chance to control the region. But then Lieberman was never very good with the facts now was he?
Sure, George Carlin dies and this piece of shit and Cheney live. There is no god.
This headline should say:
"CBS continues to give Lieberman airtime, despite traitorous lies."
JoeMarasmus @ 6:
it's a good thing he is, because Obama has to fight against the most polished attack machine in the history of the world. Say what you will about the Republican party but they sure know how to make useless nonsense into major campaign issues, their not good at a single other thing but attack they have down to a science...uh, intelligent design!
The fact is that if McCain doesn't win in November, Lieberman's political career is over and he knows it. But the way the Washington Merry-Go-Round works, Lieberman will land on his feet rich and comfortable, while the men and women sent to their deaths on his and Bush's behest will still be dead. How people of his ilk sleep at night amazes me.
Joe Lieberman is a threat to the security of the American people and should be removed from office. We don't need his kind in our government or on TV.
DMS @ 9:
Well, maybe we can pray to Joe Pesci to take care of things for us!
Mealy mouthed f@#!
"one of our most significant victories over them since 9/11, maybe the most significant."
Trying to link 9/11 to Iraq??
wow....nice :)
Good old self fellating Joe... I wish somebody would stick a boot in his ass, namely the Democrats after "our victory" in the fall. (Crosses fingers, eyes world map again). God the Democrats suck, this guy should be on a greased pig-pole and covered in fire ants.. Pelosi and Reid, you two are useless!
I watch the broadcast this morning and cracked up when Schieffer ask if being shot down and spending years as a POW qualified McSame for the Commander in Chief's job. Lieberman said of course it did. How come Francis Gary Powers never ran then?
ConstitutionalCommando @ 3:
He was all ways a tool. It still amazes me Gore picked him for VP.
If "we" had done what Obama (and Webb) recommended in the FIRST place (do NOT invade Iraq) then "we" would not presently BE bogged down in Iraq, there would be no al-Qaeda in Iraq, Iran's influence in the region would not have been enhanced, 4000+ American military deaths would have been avoided, countless billion$ would not have been spent, millions of Iraqis would not be dead, maimed, displaced, .. etc etc etc ..
AND "we" might have captured bin Laden ..
Duh!
So, in the weird inside-out Lieberman universe, as long as the U.S. maintains a 130,000-troop military occupation of Iraq, Iraq is "defending itself" -- but if the U.S. ends the occupation, Iraq will no longer be defending itself? Warning: Do not attempt to enter this universe -- only Joe Lieberman can exist in it!
bilhelm-X @ 16:
It's fine if Lieberman speaks at the GOP convention and campaigns for McSame. Because Reid says Lieberman agrees with the Dems on most issues. Of course, what those issues are is anyone's guess. Since Lieberman doesn't agree on the Iraq war, Iran, national security, torture, FISA, gutting of the Constitution...you know all the little issues.
Sadly, there's no one on television who will rub his nose in his own bullshit.
republican = insanity!
lieberman = republican, you do the math!
Dahgrostab'ph-r-i @ 10:
The Republican machine wouldn't work if the American people weren't so ignorant...
please no more elmer fudd. everytime i see that a...hole or hear what he's saying, i get physically ill. what a wimp.
By putting Lieberman on, the big media are creating a stir. A stir attracts viewers. Viewers watch commercials. Viewers buy products. Big media gets high $$$s. Mission accomplished. The horse race is what attracts interest.
After the Sunday talk shows comes sports. Go outside and register people to vote. Your vote counts but we could do more.
Saint Augustine @ 17:
I thought it was because McCain suffered "enhanced interrogation techniques" at the hands of his Vietnamese captors that qualified him in foreign policy matters.
Certainly we can no longer say that McCain was "tortured" - if we are to accept the GOP's definition of "torture." McCain was not killed & suffered no major organ failure.
If ONLY Gore had stood up to George W. Bush in 2000 and demanded his electoral victory!!!
THEN on 9/12/2001 President Gore could have listened to the stable, wise counsel of Vice-President Lieberman.
How different the world and US foreign policy would look today!
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[It is the genius of the US elite power structure to make a two-party system just as tyrannical as a one-party system.]
Lieberman says the moon is made of cheese.
FUCKING SCHIEFFER. Goddamn Nantucket Villager. Goddamn fear mongering idiot.
For jeebbus sake, why not ask him "Oh Joe, what kind of terrible things would happen if Iran seized control!?"
Hell, I have some more questions Bob S. can ask holy Joe.
Would Al Qaeda be able to launch more strikes at us when they take control in Iraq?
Is it possible they could seize control of the gulf region and jack up oil prices?
Would they make my son gay?
Would they start courting my daughter over myspace?
Cmon Bob Schieffer, you FUCKING DUMBASS, ask more stupid questions, I dare you!
Heavy irony intended in #28 above.
lol, as opposed to Bush's plan for Iraq.
which gives Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Taliban and Al Qaeda control. ;)
Well whataya expect...the Senator from Tel Aviv being questioned by a guy whose brother has been a business partner of geedubyabush and is currently the Ambassador to Japan (wonder how he got that one?) - no challenging questions, no exclamations of doubt, no nothing.
I'm beginning to hate 'em all.
Thanks CT Democrats. Thanks for voting for this guy after the thumbed his nose at the primary process.
Idiots...
JoeMarasmus @ 6:
The "move to the center" mantra again, huh? Please. Let the clueless beltway bobbleheads be the only ones who buy that meme.
Sitemonitor, is it really advocating violence to wish that someone should drop Lieberman from a helicopter into Sadr city with an empty machine gun crazy-glued to his fingers like in the movie FX, parachute optional?
And so the corporate media turn on Obama on national security.
Who da thunk it?
Onto Iran.
The thing about McCain, Lieberman and Bush is they will never be able to solve the war because they do not understand it. They do not understand the players. Lieberman says Al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq today? That is just STUPID!!! The Iraqis will kick their sorry butts out (no matter what McCain and his best buddy forever thinks) in a matter of hours after the U.S. leaves. The Iraqis hate Al Qaeda as much as they hate the U.S. for invading. You can bet your bottom $ that no Iraqi will be told what to do by some Al Qaeda nut who all of Iraq hate. McCain (and it looks like Lieberman as well) does not even know who Al Qaeda is. Obviously the same is true with Bush. All you will see of Al Qaeda is the dust they kick up as they run for Afghanistan. Iraq will kick Al Qaeda out just like they will do to the Iranians, "Thanks for the help. Now get the hell out." They don’t get the dynamics of country being invade by foreign powers. What would happen if the U.S. pulled out of Iraq immediately? What would happen next? This is what would happen - The Shia tell Iran "Thanks for the help, now leave. Get out of our country." That is the part the neocon war mongers can't seem to understand. Everybody says that Iran will take over Iraq. Or they will have so much influence that Iraq will essentially become part of Iran. Well that will NOT happen. Iraq is Iraq. They don't want to be told what to do by Iran. Just like they don’t want to be told what to do by the U.S. Remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia let the U.S. stage in their country to throw Saddam out of Kuwait. And Egypt helped the coalition in that war. Both those countries are Sunni. Saddam was Sunni. In fact Egypt harbored an exiled Saddam many years ago but Egypt helped throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Being from the same sect did not help Saddam. Saddam didn't listen to Saudi Arabia when it came to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is Sunni like Saddam. Saudi Arabia let the coalition stage in Saudi Arabia to attack Saddam, a Sunni. Why would Iraq listen to any other country, i.e. Iran or Syria or anybody else? Why would they let Iran tell them what to do? So you see that just because part of Iraq and Iran are the same sect you cannot assume that Iraqi Shia will let Iranian Shia tell them what to do. The Iraqis are only letting Iran help them because Iraq wants the U.S. out! As far as the Kurds go they have it figured out. They're having BBQ on Saturday nights (probably). And the Sunni? They will have to figure out how to have their own area. Joe Bidden knows how this will work out. Most of them have left the country anyway. It will work out without us. The neocon war profiteers don't get it or they want this war to continue for financial reasons. You know this. I know this. 82% of the U.S. knows this. Getting out is the dilemma. The Republicans think that staying in is the delima. I'm sure the military can figure out how the hell to leave. They don't have to worry about all the junk they brought with them. Most of it is trash at this time anyway. It's worn out. Used up. Just get on a plane and leave. Remember Iraq was better off with Saddam. I've said it many times. Nobody wanted to say it at the time but it is true. Iraq will have to sell their oil to somebody just like Venazuela. So you see there is no problem. pack up and leave. Let's pack it up and leave tomorrow. You are either with me or... um... ah... won't get fooled again.
Lieberman makes me very bitter.
It's time to call this for what it is. These politicians and pundits are more concerned for Israel than they are for America. We can continue to support Israel's right to exist but why should America continue fighting wars in the middle east on behalf of Israli right wingers?
Joe Lieberman - U.S. Senator from Connecticut or (not so) undercover operative for the Likud?
this is tha same asshat the whispered into mcC*nt's left ear that al qaeda and Iran have nothing to do with ewach other, right?
ASSHOLE!
What about the fact that the majority of Iraqis are Shia, and El Qaeda are Sunni?
Its good dope that he is smoking!
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 40:
That be the one.
Captain Self Centered Bitter Hussein Kangaroo @ 38:
that was quite a lot to sat that LIEberman is a lying asshole. I commend your patience.
Lieberman is what happens when Dems move to the "center", defined as following dead-enders like Bush. They become bitter Droopy Dogs who wonder why nobody else but their fellow GOP dead-enders realizes how brilliant and bipartisan they are.
i'm typing too fast! this fuck makes me too angry, not only at him, but at Reid and Pelosi and Obama.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 40:
Iraq and al Qaeda had nothing to do with each other either, until after we invaded that is. Now al Qaeda represents about 1%[?] of the foreign fighters in Iraq? Yeah, al Qaeda is really set to take over
Iraq and IranPakistan's northwest territory and Afghanistan [again].Wonder what significant victory Lieberman was referring to over al Qaeda?
Otay @ 44:
I have to disagree. LIEberman is what happens when another country owns your leadership.
Leslie [Hussein] @ 46:
correctamundo!
victory? beats me!
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 43:
Its because I'm self centered.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 47:
Lieberman doesn't represent a 5th column and Israel doesn't control the US government. The Bushies did this, not Israel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/2212934/Isra...
this is why there still their.........they're not done.they are building bases in iraq and waiting for israel to attack iran.
bomb the nuclear facility and oil production infrastructure
we will protect 4-5 companies that are/will be pumping oil out of iraq.....this will reduce OPEC's control of prices....israel most formidable enemy OPEC..many in the middle east believe this is about resources..oil
we subsidize the oil companies and we will protect them paid for by our tax dollars blackwater/u.s. troops
Unless your Bush & Co, (which seems to include Liar-man) then you make the terrible choice, every time!
One Year Wonder @ 30:
DirtyDawg @ 33:
I absolutely agree.
schieffer sux and
LIEberdouche is an appropriate nickname.
Iran would have a helluva time trying to control Iraq. Those two nations fought an 8-year war that ended the year before I was born. Eight years of bloodshed and deaths of young people in pursuit of Ba'ath secularism and Khomeini's Twelverism is hard to forgive or forget. Just how Iraqis would forget that Iran spent eight years trying to conquer them (after Saddam al-Majid started the war, of course) and that Iranians vowed the destruction of much of Iraq only a generation ago is beyond me. Some Southerners still hate Sherman for his March to the Sea. For Pete's sake, some Jews blame today's Italians for the AD 70 destruction of the Temple. Iran has no more chance of being Iraq's ruler than I have, as a white, American Evangelical (if a rather irreligious one in some ways) do of being declared Pope of Alexandria by the Coptic Church in Egypt.
This sort of malignant stupidity should be countered, at every turn.
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We need John McCain to lead our nation with the same type of change.
So when exactly is Reid going to strip this Republican in
DemocratIndependent clothing of his committee seats?Seems like endorsing and advising the Republican candidate while trashing the Democratic candidate would make that a priority to the Democratic
MisLeadershipSitemonitor: FIFY
I wish Schieffer asked Lieberman if he is willing to send his own kids to this war in Iraq.
Neocons kids do not fight this war and others planned in Neocons PNAC(Project for New American Century) manefisto ...because they want someone else kids to die for what they planned and push for.
Lieberman,B. Kristol,Bolton and many of Neocons who preach war on national television networks are unwilling to send their own kids to war.
They are also not spending a dime from their pockets toward this war and the many wars they are dreaming to happen.The war cost is left to the tens of millions of American taxpayers to pay,that it could have been used in better way.
Lieberman likes McCain becuase he sees in him a continuation of the same war plan which suits Lieberman's AIPAC AND PNAC agendas.
I guess that little chat Obama had with him, went in one ear and unimpeded, went right out the other one.
Now will someone, anyone, in the Democratic party demonstrate a pair of testicles and DTMFA please?
akk! my strike tag went wild
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 47:
Liebermann is a fundo fascist jew.
Fundamentalist jews, christians and arabs are fucking bringing this planet to the brink.
This Zionist Hoodlum should be "brought to justice" for war crimes. I hate his Kermit the Frog Voice too. F em.
This Lieberman video is hardly an isolated incident.
This is the push to get us into a war with Iran.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/29/seymour-hersh-exposes-new_n_109...
The other part of the campaign is HR 362 and SR 580. We've got an evil party in the Republicans and a large group of sell outs in the Democratic Party.
Leslie [Hussein] @ 50:
check who was at the helm of our defenses on 9/11 and who was at the helm of the british surveillance system when the london bombs went off. what country are they based in? who gave them the contract? it's a matter of public record. no dot connecting required.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 47:
A tiny country like Israel has not a snowball's chance in Hell of controlling Uncle Sam. If anything, the Christozionists in our nation are pulling Israel's puppet strings. In Protestant Fundamentalism the Antichrist from Iraq will be joined by Iran and the Russian Federation in an apocalyptic war against the US and Israel. Myself, I think that's bollocks, as neither Iran nor Russia can defeat the Israeli Army's leftovers, but that's their belief. Not to mention that if Iran gets uppity, Russia'll go to war all right...with Iran. The Russians have no desire to go slaughtering Jews like the Tsars still rule them and Iran can't fight its way out of a wet paper bag even when it defends itself, so...
Protestant Fundies are stupid. Thinking a bunch of secular Jews with enough domestic issues will play the sacrificial lamb for them is batshit insane. Israel was regathered once before and obliterated. Idiots like that are more behind this lockstep support of Israel than the trigger-happy IDF and Mossad are.
Comrade Rou @ 60:
If he were Haredim, he'd be opposed to Israel's existence. Most Haredi Jews are staunchly opposed to Zionism, and consider it the Yezter Harah run amock. The Fundie Christians want Armageddon, and even the Twelver Shia Fundies of Iran aren't gonna play that one. Iran is a rational player on the world scheme. It's not hell-bent on its own destruction.
Leiberman is just thinking Israel Israel Israel. Bush and his cronies are just thinking Oil Oil Oil and Money. The two feed off each other.
General_Rennenkampf @ 64:
there are zionists on both sides of the ocean. strings are being pulled in both places.
I just caught this on Philip Weiss' site in the comments. It makes you wonder just who in Israel is objecting to Iran...just who in the Jewish community? [Disclosure: my father worked for a wealthy Iranian Jew who kept a house in Israel. The so-called Islamofascism coming out of the mouths of the spiritually vacant "Jews" in Cheney's govt, who have captured the great uneducated here with their historical lies, has come to signify to me a way to bilk US taxpayers of military dollars for their own personal gain.]
Jews in Iran - Australian TV:
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Skmj8q0Wg
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkmHf3jZUo
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 63:
What the Hell? The Mossad actually worked as an intelligence bureau, something neither the FBI or CIA have done in decades, at minimum. Most UK intelligence is about the quality of US intelligence, M16 is ruled by the same sort of dummies the FBI and CIA are. At least the Mossad seemed to actually work before trying to start a scare on a nation that if it wanted to, could obliterate Israel before it could fight back.
The Israelis are not some sort of Illuminati Bircherite mastermind, even if they both start and end with the same letter.
JL MEALER @ 55:
healthcare needs to be addressed.....corporate america agrees.....whatever the answer is everyone has to be in the health care insurance pool....open up the plan the congress has bring cost down with participation...mccain has been in government social healthcare system his entire life....if it's good for him i'll take it also
What a lying sack of sh*t.
Keep it up, Lebe, I'm sure your constituency in Tel Aviv is cheering you on, too bad they can't vote for you from there....Lousy, suck-up jerkoff pig. You are going to get SO punked.
Thanks once again, Connecticut Republipigs...Lebe is the gift that keeps on giving. Like herpes.
LIEberman, what a friggin tool. its like kindergarten hour on 'screw the nation'
1) the "long term agreement" runs afoul of the constitution, not that LIEberman cares about the constitution at all
2) and, hello, the biggest victors in the mccain/bush iraq scorched-earth strategy has been iran
3) there was NO al qaeda in iraq before we invaded
it amazes me that these puppets can spew the misinformation so easily. oh wait, no it doesn't.
it is the policies that LIEberman supported/supports that he is now, like a pretzel, trying to peg on obama.
and, anytime droopy dog's name is mentioned it behooves me to mention that he is STILL the chairman of homeland security and governmental affairs. still. and the dems wonder why they appear to be pushovers.
editor @ 66:
that makes sense. taking occam's razor to the problem.
LIEBERMAN : Another brave warrior who had himself some dee-ferrments during the Vietnam Quagmire.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 67:
"Zionist" is polite code for Jews-in-power, isn't it? Bullshit, I call bullshit again, and say that officially, you are no better than the John Birchers who imagine a conspiracy of Jewish bankers corrupting the pure White Male American bloodlines with race-mixing. What you espouse is virtually identical. Fuck that shit, and please keep it away from this site. We don't need to become the Far Right Lite.
General_Rennenkampf @ 69:
you attribute a far greater conspiracy to my statements than they carry.
simply put: shit stinks. and I attribute it to who is known to be in the room. I'm not chasing the vent system.
JL MEALER @ 55:
A lot of flowery words; no real substance. It is; however, very amusing that you would confuse Franklin Roosevelt with Teddy Roosevelt.
Iran responds:
Iran is to dig 320,000 graves in border districts to allow for the burial of enemy soldiers in the event of any attack on its territory, a top commander said on Sunday.
"In implementation of the Geneva Conventions... the necessary measures are being taken to provide for the burial of enemy soldiers," the Mehr news agency quoted General Mir-Faisal Bagherzadeh as saying.
"We have plans to dig 15,000 to 20,000 graves in each of the border provinces or a total of 320,000," the general said, some of them mass graves if necessary.
Bagherzadeh said Iran was keen to "reduce the suffering of the families of the fallen in any attack against our country... and prevent any repetition of the long and bitter experience of the Vietnam War."
If the media truly was controlled by liberals, which it ain't, Shaeffer's next line would be, "How can you so blatantly lie to the American people? What makes you think you can get away with such obvious bald-faced lies?"
But the media in America is tightly controlled by the far-right wing, so instead we get obvious and blatant lies airing by the minute completely un-challenged.
lieberman knows the plan NEOCON talking head
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=61437§ionid=351020201
General_Rennenkampf @ 75:
be fair, General! no code words are required. neocons and zionists are cut from the