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Nicole Belle on Friday, July 4th, 2008 at 6:45 AM - PDT
Last September, Barack Obama voted to condemn the “Betray Us” attack on General David Petraeus, but over the past few days, FOX News hosts have repeatedly made the exact opposite claim.
Is it any wonder that FOX News viewers are the least informed viewers out there?
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Errrrrrr…. I hate to break this news to you but ummmmm…. Fox “News” pretty much lies about EVERYTHING.
You must be kidding me. Fox is lying about Obama?
FoxNews. We smear. You listen.
Actually the lefts brainwashing is just as hideous as the rights anymore.
Lies We Can Believe In
They do what they are paid to do.
LA Confidential, you’re a tool. I think I’m going to puke.
Of course they lied. The facts aren’t doing them any favors.
So why does Obambi still give interviews to the Faux Noise Whores? Weren’t the Dems boycotting the NeoCON propaganda outlet?
Answer: he’s a spineless Dem, through and through.
And to my Rep and Senator (VT, Welch and Leahy) who voted to condemn the MoveOn ad (both Dems of course), I send copies of cancelled checks I had mailed MoveOn and the ACLU, telling them that any money that might had gone to their campaigns was now all going to MoveOn and ACLU. Because they are organizations that are doing something.
And the Rep and Senator could do something if they weren’t permanently crippled from bending over.
Voting to condemn an ad that told the truth about a politicized general and the false hoods and misleading statements that he was about to present to congress is not a badge of honor in my book. That said the supreme court has already ruled that any news organization can lie all they want without any consequences.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Corrected
RayC @ 12:
Actually, there were two votes on this. One, sponsored by Cornyn, specifically singled out MoveOn and Obama did not vote, saying that he felt it was a waste of the Senate’s time.
However, Barbara Boxer’s draft, which condemned not only smears against Petraeus, but also all ormer military who had served with honor and sacrificed, such as Cleland and John Kerry, Obama did vote for.
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I would like to point out that there were two votes on this issue on Sep 20, 2007. The first vote was the Boxer Amendment, which condemned personal attacks against any member of the armed services, including those attacks against people such as Senator Max Cleland. Obama voted in favor of the Boxer Amendment, however the amendment failed. A second amendment followed; the Cornyn Amendment addressed only General Petraeus and did not condemn personal attacks against other service members. Obama DID NOT vote on the Cornyn amendment.
Now, Faux News is definitely cherry-picking votes and is also misrepresenting his lack of a vote as a “Nay.” They fail to address that maybe Obama ran out to the bathroom (or some other urgent matter)? They also are despicably using this to say that Obama does not support our troops or our generals. Perhaps Obama, as I do, felt that singling out one specific incident and ignoring the Cleland and Kerry attacks is wrong, thus choosing to not vote for the Cornyn amendment, but choosing to support the Boxer amendment.
Anyways, down with Faux News the land of misinformation, misrepresentation, and misdirection.
If there really was a “War on Terror” you would see “Fox and Friends” brought to justice on live TV. Brian Kilmeade, err I mean Leslie Hochwenderson, Laura Ingham, Steve Doocy, are suffering terribly from cognitive dissonance. The truth is there is something terribly wrong with something here in the U.S. Homeland. regards
Terrible @ 3:
Exactly! And aren’t there any federal broadcasting regulations against that?! I can’t believe the effers are still on the air!
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
I know what you mean, despite that terrible sentence, and I still disagree with it. Some left-wing brainwashing is as bad, but the vast majority of it is not as bad as fox.
At what point does this go beyond a “mistake” and become slander? I just don’t understand how they keep getting away with these intentional lies all the time.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Actually the trolls ideas is just as hideous as their stupid grammar anymore.
It demonstrates once again that kowtowing to the reptiles is a lose-lose strategy.
Sometimes it gets old seeing all the blogs run articles about Fox and the corporate media …… I think the choir understands, why continue to give these guys air time?
wjbill @ 23:
I see your point, but gross media bias and lies must be exposed and challenged. If they are allowed to stand, the liars win.
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wjbill @ 23:
You must know thine enemy’s propaganda in order to be able to properly counter it when it comes back to you third-hand from people who don’t know any better.
Britt Hume, you’re a hack, not a journalist, not an honest person. YOU AND THE REST OF THE APOLOGISTS AT FOX ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF TRAITORS IN THE USA.
GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
LOSERS.
You aren’t seriously suggesting that “voters” get better information from the rest of our media, are ya? PLEASE…
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right on! @ 18:
Censorship cuts both ways.
Fox is free to be an bunch of lying bastards and that’s preferable to people with more than one brain cell being prevented from pointing that out.
L.A. Confidential @ 6:
Serious question. What do you want? Utopia? We’re stuck with a really flawed system. Do you have a solution or have you just given up?
Why can’t these f-ers just read the f-en news ? thats all we want, just read the news!!!
Obama’s voting record?…
Re-authorise Patriot Act…check.
More money for Chimpy’s war…check.
Telecom immunity…check.
what more do we need to know?…
Annoyed Canuck @ 24:
If that’s true then why haven’t they (Fox and their ilk) lost yet?
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andy @ 31:
Personally, if I want news, the internet is the place to go. It’s usually days faster than other forms of media, you can fact check all you want as well as cross-reference.
TV is just another form of crack. Just say no and turn it off.
Why watch watch the news when you can FUX NEWS! LOL!
I’ll be the story I found on MSNBC this morning will never see the light of day on FUX News.
On Iran, Adm. Michael Mullen sounds like Obama
WASHINGTON - It could turn out to be one of the most significant comments of the 2008 campaign — but coming just ahead of a holiday weekend, it isn’t getting much notice.
Upon his return from a visit to Israel and Europe, the nation’s highest ranking military officer warned Wednesday that a military strike on Iran would be a very bad idea.
“This is a very unstable part of the world, and I don’t need it to be more unstable,” said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25515357/
CafeenMan @ 30:
She just wants to whine and bitch and act like a victim….very reminiscent of a reich-winger.
My father, who has a PhD. in Physics, is one of the brightest people I have ever met. He is, in fact, a retired rocket scientist. He quotes this shit chapter and verse, and it drives me up the fucking wall. How does this happen? This Faux Noise Channel is a pox on us all.
Why watch news when you can FUX NEWS!
OK, no doubt there.
But here is what I want to know… do they sit in a room and decide: “Alright, so and so is getting too much good press, we need to put out the opposite message. This is what we need to say… ” ??
Or does someone decide what the message of the day is and puts it on the tele-prompter? Who writes what the “talent” reads? Is there a little room of spiders that does the spinning?
How does that work, exactly? How does a network deliberately decide to do that? Doesn’t that make the people that work there sick to lie like that? I can’t comprehend it. I simply can’t. But then again, I was raised in a time when one could trust the news. What has the 4th estate come to?
Dr. Matt @ 36:
In all fairness Doc, some of the Obama supporters played the same game. eh politics, same ol same ol.
Dr. Matt @ 36:
Well, I understand the frustration. I had high hopes after 2006 and that didn’t work out all that well. I’m really sick of all the excuses. Before I used to think it was the difference between really bad (GOP) and kinda bad (Dems). Now I really do see it as the lesser of two evils (really, REALLY bad vs. just really bad). But still, I’ll go with the better of the two even if it’s not that big of difference.
Off topic. Jesse Helms is dead.
Would have been nice to not have that video cut and paste into a thousand pieces. I would have liked to see the unedited video to get the full context of what they said.
However I will stipulate that it seems like what he presented and what they said was one in the same, but the video editing just hurts my head.
I wish they where right . Moveon hit the nail right on the head . When the military climbs in bed with one party it is not even close to a good thing.
They won’t have to lie about his voting record after the FISA vote.
He’s handing them the “flip flop meme“ on a platter.
Gawd.
mudshark @ 40:
This isn’t an Obama versus shillary issue. LAC comes here every day, whines, rants, acts like a victim, and attempts to bash Obama at all costs. She’s no different than a reich-winger.
This has been mentioned before, but I have links.
The amendment that Sen. Obama voted for, number 2947, sponsored by Sen Barbara Boxer (D-CA), which does not mention General Petraeus by name, went down to defeat.
http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....vote=00343
Vote Number: 343
Vote Date: September 20, 2007, 11:58 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5
Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Here’s the Thomas Server link to the Boxer amendment:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....10:SP2947:
S.AMDT.2947
Amends: H.R.1585 , S.AMDT.2011
Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] (submitted 9/20/2007) (proposed 9/20/2007)
AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To reaffirm strong support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and to strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization.
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On the next Senate vote, Amendment 2011, submitted by Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), which defended General Petraeus by name, passed by a vote of 72 to 25 *without* Senator Obama’s vote.
http://www.senate.gov/legislat.....vote=00344
Question: On the Amendment (Cornyn Amdt. No. 2934)
Vote Number: 344
Vote Date: September 20, 2007, 12:36 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5
Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
This gave Fox News the hook they needed to make their statements, which appear to be true and factual, as far as they went. The YouTube here referenced, and this post, are thus only partially informative, which I gather is how partisans both left and right like their political consumption to be. Never let it be said that we lefties don’t play the B.S. game with the best of them.
Here’s the Cornyn amendment:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/.....10:SP2934:
S.AMDT.2934
Amends: H.R.1585 , S.AMDT.2011
Sponsor: Sen Cornyn, John [TX] (submitted 9/19/2007) (proposed 9/19/2007)
AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.
To be fair to the Faux “News” channel, they are paid to lie…so it’s not a very big surprise when they do what they are paid for.
CafeenMan @ 41:
LAC isn’t frustrated. She’s whining. [deleted]
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