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h/t Media Czech at Barefoot and Progressive. Open Thread below…




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1
Don Davis Says:

McCain Serenades Gramm: ‘50 Ways to Leave Your Hoover’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=2057

2
Reno Says:

A Musical (Lyrical?) interlude:
Leonard Cohen - The Future

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it’s lonely here,
there’s no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that’s an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that’s left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I’ve seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won’t be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don’t know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I’m the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I’ve seen the nations rise and fall
I’ve heard their stories, heard them all
but love’s the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It’s over, it ain’t going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil’s riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide …

There’ll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There’ll be phantoms
There’ll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You’ll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin’ to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin’

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don’t like children anyhow
I’ve seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide …

When they said REPENT REPENT …

It just seemed somehow apropos..

3
VitaMind Says:

Happy 90th Birthday Nelson Mandela!!

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD920GJVG0
http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....70727.html
http://theleoafricanus.com/200.....n-mandela/

I guess I am what you call a ‘lurker’, since i don’t comment. I just consider myself a reader of blogs … not necessarily inclined to comment unless the ignorance is beyond belief; then i too will blow-off real life to carefully correct (that ever ubiquitous) ’someone’ on the internet who is clearly wrong. :-)

While I don’t expect anything in particular and am always impressed at what you-all have done (and continue to do with the internet, congrats on your NetRoots convention) with the internet and increasing our ability to obtain and share REAL NEWS …

I must confess I have been something of a troll on various blogs today because I am surprised that none of you (my favorite sites) have made mention of Nelson Mandela’s 90th!!! Birthday. It’s just a double super-happy Friday for freedom fighters everywhere!

He’s pretty damn awesome, affected some serious change in the largest continent on our planet, continues to work for those in need, and is pretty damn old (yet still alive - good karma works wonders, eh?) for a man who spent over two decades in prison.

So today, I’m a lurker/troll of BIRTHDAY LOVE for Nelson Mandela on all my favorite sites. (consider yourself quite fortunate, eh?)

Please post another ‘late night music club’ with the Hugh Masekela song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKCk8o5xzaM

I’ll be your BFF. ;-)

4
LibertyLover Says:

McCain has leaked details of Obama’s trip to Iraq. Unconcionable.

And Is Gramm in or out? I heard he is stepping down again.

5
Ron Says:

LibertyLover @ 3:

McCain has leaked details of Obama’s trip to Iraq. Unconcionable.

And Is Gramm in or out? I heard he is stepping down again.

Off to lobby for another loophole for speculators.

6
StirFry Says:

Could you imagine the New Yorker doing a cover of McCain’s rumors? And that faux cover is just a tip of the iceberg.

LibertyLover @ 4:

McCain has leaked details of Obama’s trip to Iraq. Unconcionable.

And Is Gramm in or out? I heard he is stepping down again.

I think that’s one step to the right.

Ron @ 5:

LibertyLover @ 3:

McCain has leaked details of Obama’s trip to Iraq. Unconcionable.
And Is Gramm in or out? I heard he is stepping down again.

Off to lobby for another loophole for speculators.

McCain Leaks Details Of Obama’s Iraq Trip

I remember assassination jokes.
I remember BlackWater is In Iraq.
I wonder how much Security they control?!

San Francisco: Proposed George W. Bush Sewage Plant makes ballot

This might be the only productive thing in history with the bush name assoiciated.

Phil “The Whiner” Gramm “Resigns” as the Co-Chair of McCain’s Campaign. He Must Have Read That He Received This Week’s BuzzFlash GOP Hypocrite of the Week Award. 7/19

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Ron Says:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 9:

Ron @ 5:

LibertyLover @ 3:

McCain has leaked details of Obama’s trip to Iraq. Unconcionable.
And Is Gramm in or out? I heard he is stepping down again.

Off to lobby for another loophole for speculators.

McCain Leaks Details Of Obama’s Iraq Trip

I suppose that it was just another senior moment. Wow, and some people think he’s a heroe.

More Examples of Fat Cats Wasting Our Tax Dollars: The Air Force’s top leadership sought for three years to spend counterterrorism funds on “comfort capsules” to be installed on military planes that ferry senior officers and civilian leaders around the world, with at least four top generals involved in design details such as the color of the capsules’ carpet and leather chairs, according to internal e-mails and budget documents. Production has already begun.

Ron @ 13:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 9:

Ron @ 5:

LibertyLover @ 3:
Off to lobby for another loophole for speculators.

McCain Leaks Details Of Obama’s Iraq Trip

I suppose that it was just another senior moment. Wow, and some people think he’s a heroe.

outside of the sclm, I have not met a person. I mean that.

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Greg Says:
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Ron Says:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 15:

Ron @ 13:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 9:

Ron @ 5:
McCain Leaks Details Of Obama’s Iraq Trip

I suppose that it was just another senior moment. Wow, and some people think he’s a heroe.

outside of the sclm, I have not met a person. I mean that.

StirFry @ 6:

Could you imagine the New Yorker doing a cover of McCain’s rumors? And that faux cover is just a tip of the iceberg.

I have a friend that tells this story to the right wingers that try to give him a hard time. It shuts them up.

18
constituent Says:

the free market guys put 300 billion on the table for the
privileged group called “too big to fail”the guy that don’t
have to really be concerned about risk……they cried yrs. ago about prudential controls so we removed and now they have done what many do with power….they exploit the less powerful usually the working class. this has been unbelievable to me….they have kept wages down but the inflation of stock profit has been through the roof. this relationship between wall street and the white house has to be watched….and now the arrogance of phil gramm, bush and mccain sickens me. if these two institutions freddie/fannie fail we are screwed..especially now that we are in deeper($). this is old fashion usery and it has to stop……..bush makes me nauseated with his comments about us/media knowing the economy….he knows what damage this has done he doesn’t care because there are always winners somewhere. personally i’d like to see the market hit botom so we can start over. obama will have his hands full. this subprime/foreclosure fiasco has many impacts victums.

19
Karen Says:

A conservative Republican with the integrity to recognize the threat to America that is Bushite power and Rovian politics, Larry Hunter, co-author of the Contract with America, endorses Obama.

20
Nicky Says:

Why is anyone surprised McCain leaked advance word of Obama’s trip. Didn’t he tip off the Vietnamese to the Pittsburgh Steeler defensive lineup ten years in advance?

21
constituent Says:

Nicky @ 20:

Why is anyone surprised McCain leaked advance word of Obama’s trip. Didn’t he tip off the Vietnamese to the Pittsburgh Steeler defensive lineup ten years in advance?

that’s good stuff

22
Ron Says:

constituent @ 18:

the free market guys put 300 billion on the table for the
privileged group called “too big to fail”the guy that don’t
have to really be concerned about risk……they cried yrs. ago about prudential controls so we removed and now they have done what many do with power….they exploit the less powerful usually the working class. this has been unbelievable to me….they have kept wages down but the inflation of stock profit has been through the roof. this relationship between wall street and the white house has to be watched….and now the arrogance of phil gramm, bush and mccain sickens me. if these two institutions freddie/fannie fail we are screwed..especially now that we are in deeper($). this is old fashion usery and it has to stop……..bush makes me nauseated with his comments about us/media knowing the economy….he knows what damage this has done he doesn’t care because there are always winners somewhere. personally i’d like to see the market hit botom so we can start over. obama will have his hands full. this subprime/foreclosure fiasco has many impacts victums.

Point taken. It will take longer than two terms. People, be vigilant and never forget what has happened in these 30+ years of corporate control.

23
StirFry Says:

Ron @ 17:

I have a friend that tells this story to the right wingers that try to give him a hard time. It shuts them up.

Good! Shutting up a driveling right winger is always a good thing.

24
constituent Says:

Ron @ 22:

constituent @ 18:

the free market guys put 300 billion on the table for the
privileged group called “too big to fail”the guy that don’t
have to really be concerned about risk……they cried yrs. ago about prudential controls so we removed and now they have done what many do with power….they exploit the less powerful usually the working class. this has been unbelievable to me….they have kept wages down but the inflation of stock profit has been through the roof. this relationship between wall street and the white house has to be watched….and now the arrogance of phil gramm, bush and mccain sickens me. if these two institutions freddie/fannie fail we are screwed..especially now that we are in deeper($). this is old fashion usery and it has to stop……..bush makes me nauseated with his comments about us/media knowing the economy….he knows what damage this has done he doesn’t care because there are always winners somewhere. personally i’d like to see the market hit botom so we can start over. obama will have his hands full. this subprime/foreclosure fiasco has many impacts victums.

Point taken. It will take longer than two terms. People, be vigilant and never forget what has happened in these 30+ years of corporate control.

ron i’m glad you can figure out my poor writing style
but i know you have an understanding for this since i read your entries. these social strategies behind the talk of free markets piss me off…….as you can tell.

25
StirFry Says:

Greg @ 16:

How They’ll Try to Bury Impeachment and Fail

The comment “Just look at John Conyers. He wrote a book that practically outlined a complete case for impeachment, and then said he wouldn’t support impeachment. We NOW need him to change his mind one more time….” is painfully true.
All of the un-impeached, un-caricerated members of the boosh cartel will be laughing it up as Fauxnews pundits by mid 2009.

26
Ron Says:

constituent @ 24:

Ron @ 22:

constituent @ 18:

the free market guys put 300 billion on the table for the
privileged group called “too big to fail”the guy that don’t
have to really be concerned about risk……they cried yrs. ago about prudential controls so we removed and now they have done what many do with power….they exploit the less powerful usually the working class. this has been unbelievable to me….they have kept wages down but the inflation of stock profit has been through the roof. this relationship between wall street and the white house has to be watched….and now the arrogance of phil gramm, bush and mccain sickens me. if these two institutions freddie/fannie fail we are screwed..especially now that we are in deeper($). this is old fashion usery and it has to stop……..bush makes me nauseated with his comments about us/media knowing the economy….he knows what damage this has done he doesn’t care because there are always winners somewhere. personally i’d like to see the market hit botom so we can start over. obama will have his hands full. this subprime/foreclosure fiasco has many impacts victums.

Point taken. It will take longer than two terms. People, be vigilant and never forget what has happened in these 30+ years of corporate control.

ron i’m glad you can figure out my poor writing style
but i know you have an understanding for this since i read your entries. these social strategies behind the talk of free markets piss me off…….as you can tell.

You did just fine. Sometimes we have to simplify it for others though.

27
odanny Says:

StirFry @ 6:

Could you imagine the New Yorker doing a cover of McCain’s rumors? And that faux cover is just a tip of the iceberg.

That’s awesome. If the New Yorker had even a sliver of journalistic courage it would run this next.

28
Ron Says:

odanny @ 27:

StirFry @ 6:

Could you imagine the New Yorker doing a cover of McCain’s rumors? And that faux cover is just a tip of the iceberg.

That’s awesome. If the New Yorker had even a sliver of journalistic courage it would run this next.

They tried to explain the cover as satire and the article inside is supposed to be more revealing of Obama in a positive manner. The problem is, a picture always speaks louder than words. The words will not be read by the majority.

29
constituent Says:

here’s a short video on are buddy rove he needs to appear before judiary committee…in the end mcClellen
says he wouldn’t trust him

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/.....ve-to-jail

30
DearEditor Says:

I just wish the people would turn their attention away from the leaders and have a good, long look at the rulers. It would be easier to run the President out of town than the people he owes.

31
Ron Says:

GNA!

32
constituent Says:

Ron @ 31:

GNA!

talk to ya next time

33
Tequila Says:

New Yorkers can finally check the calories of fast food. Nothing new for me, but a diploma ain’t worth anything nowadays. [Of course, being the WSJ, it also lies about the economy being strong for most of this decade.]

34
Radically Moderate Says:
35
Tequila Says:

Oh, and I mentioned this before, but McCain sponges off social security while demanding it be “reformed”.

36
constituent Says:

Tequila @ 35:

Oh, and I mentioned this before, but McCain sponges off social security while demanding it be “reformed”.

wow i mean unbelievable collecting for about 8yrs. he has been collecting $ from the government his entire life he makes what did it say400k and his wife millions wow and he needs to collect ss…..and they can’t pay their property tax in california…..who’s the elite

37
oh really Says:

Coal.

Cheap. Abundant. Cheap.

I’m convinced. Where can I get me a six-pack of that there coal stuff?

Hell, if it’s so damned cheap, make that a case!

38
Tequila Says:

Grey wolves are safe. (For now.)

39
Tequila Says:

Obama calls the Republicans’ bluff, and visits Afghanistan, with Iraq next on the agenda.

40
meohmy Says:

It is more than appreciated that the BEST website for news and video has a daily open thread. Although I don’t post often, I do when I have something to say or ask.
One thing has me puzzled about the Saddam conviction and eventual hanging.
WHY HAS NO REPORTER OR BLOGGER ASKED,”WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS BODY DOUBLES???
Saddam was known to have several for security and protection reasons. How do we and the Iraqis know the REAL Saddam was hung?? He was our puppet once you know.

Major unanswered questions:
1. Why has no one asked GW or Booker T.Elementary, what station was on when GW saw the ‘plane’ hit?
2. When Bush made this statement, why did he ‘fib’ to a child in a forum on national television?
3. Why no inquiry into Bhutto’s statement in an interview with Mr. Frost that Bin Laden had been killed in late October of 2001?
4.The unit assigned to ‘hunt down’(now dismantled) referred to Bin Laden as “UBL”, meaning Usama Bin Laden. Why over time has it been changed to Osama?
5. The flag sown onto military uniforms is now shown as sown on backwards…why?
6. WHEN DID CONGRESS ISSUE A DECLARATION OF WAR??
7. When talking of the destruction done in N.Y. on 9/11, why does no one mention the destruction of vehicles miles and miles from the Trade Centers?
8.How did GW and his staff at Booker T. know the school was not a target(his itinerary was known), so there fore he could continue listening to the children read?
9. How did they know the attacks were over or there would be no more?

Something new I learned:Research for yourself…Learn the TRUTH
The area of the Pentagon hit ..the accounting dept. that held papers and was investigating the 2 trillion missing from its budget was the only dept that had moved into that area(whala..papers destroyed). By the way, this may be where the financing of 9/11 came from, it still has not been investigated.
The Shankesville ‘hole’ was there prior to the ‘plane’ crashing. Early virtual earth shows this to be true.
Jimmy Carter’s administration held a peace accord with Israel and Arabs on 9/11 during the 70’s. Lindberg gave a major speech on 9/11. Google and read for yourself.GHWB gave a major speech on 9/11. All coincidences??? Not when you research and read the content of each.

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Dave Says:

Something new I learned:Research for yourself…Learn the TRUTH
The area of the Pentagon hit ..the accounting dept. that held papers and was investigating the 2 trillion missing from its budget was the only dept that had moved into that area(whala..papers destroyed). By the way, this may be where the financing of 9/11 came from, it still has not been investigated.
The Shankesville ‘hole’ was there prior to the ‘plane’ crashing. Early virtual earth shows this to be true.
Jimmy Carter’s administration held a peace accord with Israel and Arabs on 9/11 during the 70’s. Lindberg gave a major speech on 9/11. Google and read for yourself.GHWB gave a major speech on 9/11. All coincidences??? Not when you research and read the content of each.

Don’t forget that Allende was overthrown by Pinochet in Chile on 9/11 in 1973.

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Barack Obama Says:

McCain ‘08