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SilentPatriot on Sunday, July 20th, 2008 at 6:00 AM - PDT
When asked for his opinion on the whole Jesse Jackson/Barack Obama dust up, Dan Rather talks about his admiration for the legendary civil rights activists, and says Osama bin Laden wouldn’t be possible without him. Say what?
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I can understand accidentally mixing up Obama and Osama. It happens. What I don’t understand is how Dan Rather could make the mistake of actually calling him the full Osama bin Laden. More astonishingly, how can the entire”Morning Joe” cast sit there and not correct him? Stupefying.
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Osama bin Laden in a dashiki, next on the cover of the New Yorker.
They must have fox news on in their grrn room :)
Actually, with MSNBC these days, I am not surprised no one corrected the ” accident”.
If it wasn’t for Countdown I would cancel my cable subscription to MSNBC as try not to watch anything else that’s on there anyway.
Morning Joe == Dumb-Founded
Barnicle, I’m ashamed of you.
*Don’t mix them up! Don’t mix them up!*
He probably said it to himself so many times he fell victim to his own preparedness…
It’s just propaganda, don’t for a second think it’s on accident.
somebody removed the video or is it an error ! the wmv doesnt work,
not trying the QT devil spawn.
I heard that the other morning and did a double take, I thought it was just in my mind and that there is no way he could have said that because I have never heard someone confuse Barak Obama with Usama bin Laden (there is no O in arabic). Sometimes they will say Osama, but never have I heard the bin Laden added. Wow, just wow, i think that is why the cast just sat there, they were as dumbfounded as I was and thought that their ears tricked them because no one is that dumb.
Well, you know all them darker people are the same, right? They have, like, a brown-skin hive mind and stuff! Yeah! That’s it!
…
And I think I’m ill just from typing that.
downloaded the mov and used VLC,
sad to see Dan Rather has lost it big time. thats a McCain style senior moment, and we should all expect his retirement announcement tomorrow.
JimboSlice @ 8:
what day was this broadcast !?
It’s the least one can expect in the nation of corporate welfare and social warfare where your tax dollars are used to bail out corporations, endebt your children and the last real journalists standing slowly lose their senses. It’s sad that there’s noone on Morning Joe that will act like a journalist for a second and pause the conversation to correct the guest by saying that Obama indeed was in Iraq once (Thursday) and he’s not Bin Laden (Friday). The only reason I watch MSNBC is because I get it for free. Thank God Gore issued the 2018 statement because now it’s official and on record and there will be no excuses accepted from the government of, by and for the people as the American public asks them 3 months from now, 1 year from now, 3 years from now what’s the status of the adjustments to be energy independent in 2018 and demands to see the progress. After all, it’s the Vice President of the United States speaking and one can’t get any more serious and credible than that, so if he says it’s technically possible to be “fully green” 10 years from now, having all the experience, advisers and scientists by his side, the next 10 years will be finally the years of civic demands - no more f*****g with the American public and excuses that we can’t do nothing for 2 years because an oil man is in the White House. WTF? What kind of excuse is that anyway if you fund two wars and use hundreds of billions of Americans’ money to bail out a Wall Street bank in the meantime?
I remember the evening when Sir Robin Day ‘lost it’ and shouted down and harangued a wheel chaired disabled person on the BBC’s Question Time,
the person had the gall to ask his question about disability benefits being frozen under the Conservatives, rather than the pre approved question to the panel.
They announced his retirement the next day.
Yeah, I have a similar problem. I keep saying “Adolph Hitler” instead of President Bush. But in my defense, I do think it’s easy to confuse the two.
Because it’s freaking Dan Rather. He could go fondle Joe and the rest will just have to watch.
Maybe the rest of the panel was just stunned into silence, too stupid to notice, or were spending their time thinking some smart and snarky to say next to actually listen what’s going on…
I’m inclined to believe it’s the last one.
lou @ 12:
Chimpy’s statement about how in SEVEN years we could blah blah blah, forgetting he was the POTUS seven years AGO.
He had the opportunity back in 2001 to get the green ball rolling in the USA, GWB failed deliberately and miserably, all to the profit of his oil buddies.
See? This is how you do satire! If only the New Yorker had known!
c. atrox @ 14:
Hitler had vaguely competent advisers, and some policy or grand thousand year plan,
Chimpy has his drugs, his booze and his Wii, not much else.
We are lucky that we have morons in the WH, if they had been seriously evil then it would have been a very different past seven years.
Where do the Campaign Funds come from:
Open Secret
Obama
Individual contributions $286,382,376 100%
PAC contributions $-650 -0%
Candidate self-financing $0 0%
Federal Funds $0 0%
Other $1,016,219 0%
McSame
Individual contributions $104,783,672 88%
PAC contributions $1,143,214 1%
Candidate self-financing $0 0%
Federal Funds $0 0%
Other $13,667,709 11%
You can see who is beholding and who isn’t.
♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 19:
McCain is also going to do the double dip and get $80 million in taxpayer funding illegally.
end of August or September.
♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 19:
it’s beholden :)
Kilgore Trout, you do not need cable to watch MSNBC. Since you have an internet connection, simply bookmark Countdown on your computer.
Stunningly and stupefyingly out to lunch, the whole bunch, feuding slip, yes. Will happen again and again and until some one really makes a point about this, ON AIR, it will be sluffed off as a Minor mistake.
Dan will correct this, as soon as he see’s it, but the rest, the panel will have a hard time, explainning why they were the deer caught in the headlights.
gus smith @ 22:
More information please.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 11:
Friday morning I believe.
You have to understand though that it is hard for these guys to think of something original to say so you can understand if they are not paying attention to their guest . I mean its Mike “plagiarize or make shit up” Barnicle, and Tiki “Ewing” Barber, not exactly the cream of the broadcasting crop.
Ron @ 24:
countdown.msnbc.com - they have full episodes broken down by segment if you wish to watch. Actually MSNBC has most of their shows available to watch for free on the web in a pretty good format with playlist ability.
If you can get 1-3% of the uninformed public to keep this meme in their head, their boy McElderly can slither in a win! Deliberate and intentional….I am pissed more at Kiki Barber for not correcting him…but after football, he has to keep his corporate media job too.
Bruce @ 23:
You can never convince me that it wasn’t deliberate.
Can’t expect much from the Morning Jerk crew.
Joe said on the show last week that Valerie Plame was only a “desk jockey”, twice and no one corrected him either.
Dan Rather = corporate pimp.
Stupefying to Say the Least …
OhMiGawd! I saw that live and I also wondered how in the hell the entire panel could let that one slide, outside of some missplaced reverence for Mr. Rather. It further proved how out of touch some of our “respected” journalists have become. Despite some very good discussions regarding race on “Morning Joe” over the last week or so,(MSNBC is one of the few places where you’ll see an all-black panel discussing the election rather than the requesite three whites /one black ratio…), I couldn’t help but cringe over Rather’s continual referral to “people of color” on the subject.
What - you never saw Broadcast News?
For Dan it was probably his concentration (consciously and unconsciously) on … don’t say Osama …don’t say Osama …don’t say Osama … Osama Bin Laden.
For the others it was simply the fact that they never really listen to what any of their guests are saying and it likely didn’t even register with them that he had said Osama Bin Laden. It’s rather like reading when you read what your brain thinks is there rather than what is actually on the written page (with the errors, etc.). They’re incompetent tools - certainly this is not news.
Morning Joe = morning joke
Not the least bit surprised. This sort of thing is not uncommon on the Morning Joke.
Steve @ 35:
Honestly, Steve, I had not read the comments before posting mine. I’m stealing your material; it’s that old “great minds think alike” kind of thing. Sorry.
I don’t get it. The slip and the lack of correction I believe are intentional. I don’t know why Rather would have gone after Bush on his national guard record, then cooperate with the corporate news hounds on an Obama smear.
I know things aren’t that cut and dry, but why lose your career trying to take out a top conservative and play ball trying to demean a top liberal?
What you want to bet no correction will be forthcoming?
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 10:
Dan Rather never had it to lose. Walter Cronkite he was not, nor could he ever be.
Not even remotely close.
See above.
“…how can the entire”Morning Joe” cast sit there and not correct him?”
How about that they haven’t a brain among them, and also that their job is not to correct the mighty. Remember when Jim Lehrer said the same?
Politicians, especially Republicans, more and more openly lie on TV. They know that any subsequent correction will have only a fraction of the audience than that of the original lie.
Staggering… when you think what they earn collectively and not one of them is on the ball…
The use of Barak Obama with Usama bin Laden in the media is not a slip of the tongue but intentionally done in most cases. The repeated use is intended to confuse and equate him with Americans perceived greatest evil. Think it is bad now just wait until we are 60 days out from the election.
Be fore warned now! Never allow corporate media gain control of the internet as they have done with the printed papers, radio waves and the television transmissions. Americans will be dumbed down even more than the elementary level that the media speaks (shouts) at us now.
Throw rather in with Schieffer as a geriatric has-been. I grew up with Cronkite, but would not waste a minute on CBS News these days.
“Check it out, Dawg. White man won’t be denied”, Generation Kill, Episode 1.
Obama may as well have his name legally changed to Osama bin Laden since the media insists on calling him that. Then these idiots who call themselves newscasters will mistakingly call him Obama.
Interesting… So Dan Rather just revealed he watches FOX News a lot I suppose.
That wasn’t Katie Couric?
I’m rather surprised that only one (thank you Nikola) of the commenters so far seem to be willing to acknowledge that it’s possible (and even plausible) to make this mistake. It’s particularly embarrassing that some of you seem to be seriously suggesting that it was done deliberately.
All you need is for the person in question (ie. Rather) to be more used to saying the full name “Osama bin Laden” rather than just “Osama” (which in his case I think is quite likely).
Then you just need him to start with the “Oba-” but instead slip into the “Osa-”… and the rest of the name just rolls straight off his tongue unconsciously.
Notice that later in the clip, one (or two?) of the others say “Barack Obama” and then Rather says the name correctly.
I think the lesson for media types is to stop referring to Obama by his surname alone - if they do that then it’s just too easy to fall into the “mental typo” O[sb]ama trap. Stick to “Barack Obama” or “Senator Obama” (either of those is more respectful anyway).
Awww, That’s just Dan being Dan.
No, I can’t, and it shouldn’t. EVER.
Frank Dufek @ 6:
It was on accident. Dan Rather is a good man and journalist and is NOT a right wing nutjob.
If you dont believe me check out his reporting on HD Net.