Bring the fucker to the Senate chamber in chains! They have the right to do it.

Rove is cutting and running from justice.

Is this supposed to be some sort of revelation?

I file it under "No shit, Sherlock".

Yesterday I watched Nancy Pelosi (tape on C-span) as she spoke at the netroots convention last week. She had a Q & A session and one of the questions was about Rove. She said that Conyers had told her to let him handle Rove. I'm not sure what that means but I hope it means Conyers is going to do something besides write a letter.

She did say that Rove belonged behind bars.

Did the hosts sound condescending to you? After almost every statement, you could hear 'hmm, yeah' from each of them, as if to say, "you silly liberal, laws don't apply to us!"

Every time I read the following description, I wonder what the 90 or so OTHER US Attys did so as NOT to get fired?

"David Iglesias, one of the eight US Attorneys forced out of their jobs by the Bush administration for failing to pursue bogus politically-motivated prosecutions..."

I guess we'll find out here in a couple of months, when their works bvegine to show results around 'election' time, innit?

Theory by David Iglesias "may" hold some water, however, most of us know that
Waxman & Cornyers Committee's are inept/non-funtional as to pursuing any violations
of law(by Miers/Bolton/Rove/et.al), so if I were in Rove's shoes, I too would thumb my
nose at that bunch of clowns, laugh and go about my continued business of breaking
the law.

Truly Equal @ 9:

Did the hosts sound condescending to you? After almost every statement, you could hear 'hmm, yeah' from each of them, as if to say, "you silly liberal, laws don't apply to us!"

yeah, except that Iglesias isn't a liberal; he's a reck-ribbed 'conservative,' a serious Reaganaut. How ELSE do you think he got the job in the first place?
He's just not enough of a fascist to suit Pajama Pete Domenici or his congressional lap-top, Heather Wilson. He drew a line, but after how many chances?

Morning Ho.

A petition to demand accountability? Really? If you live in SF, please don't vote for Pelosi again. If we let these clowns get away with picking and choosing which of their constitutional responsibilities they want to acknowledge by allowing them to keep their seats, we're going to get more of the same. We shouldn't HAVE to petition our leaders to use the powers they already have to do their jobs! UGH!

Joe was off the wall this morning as they had a guest who has written a new book, I believe the name of the book is The Dark Side. The book is about how cheney and others used the fears of 9-11 to change so many of our laws and especially the use of torture. Joe was so damned defensive about the use of waterboarding that it was amazing and strange. His show is becoming more unwatchable every day. I wasn't at all surprised at the way they responded to Iglesias. They seem to be trying to steal Fox and Friends audience.

woody, tokin librul @ 20:

Jo @ 4:

Put a price on Rove's head and some poor bastard would bring him to justice real quick.

World-wide, like bin laden. Say, $5 million. He'd be delivered, trussed like an Xmas pig, in a matter of hours.

YahHoo! Lock and load! Where do I donate?

what is blatantly evident is that Iglesias just as others before him does not come clean until the chickens come home to roost. only when it hits at home does he begin to reveal that which he knew to be the truth all along. sorrowfully, only those who read this blog and others like it will ever know the truth. the mainstream media does not choose to cover the truth. This should be major and yet it will be delegated to page 15 and a small story beneath brittany's latest doings.

woody, tokin librul @ 24:

The Dark Side--Jane Meyers' new book...
Scott Horton, over on Harper's/No Comment, has a post that you MUST read...

Having n ot read the whole book, yet, the thing that strikes me is that Mayer (not "Meyer"; sorry) seems willing to give the Busheviks a little benefit of the doiubt. She seems to beleive that the neo-con plot to overturn the Constitution only gradually, almost accidentally, evolved as they tried to craft (good faith? good Feith? phuque dat) replie to the crisis. She seems to believe their motives were honorable, a break I cannot give 'em, under the consequences.,..

How can we catch bin Laden, we can't even catch Karl Rove.

Ruthless People @ 29:

How can we catch bin Laden, we can't even catch Karl Rove.

It's about Angie and Brad this week. Relax, don't fight it, everything is under control.

Hey, this Iglesias guiy is just yet another disgrunteled former employee.

I can hear it now.

This is the sort of shit that's supposed to happen in a Third World rathole where only two people make the laws, the Despot and his successor. That this should happen with no penalty in a First World country is...disturbing.

woody, tokin librul @ 32:

Ruthless People @ 28:

uk visa @ 6:

It's sad to watch the death of justice in America.

You commit a crime you will find out first hand justice in America is very much alive. If you're a member of the conservative ruling elite, yes, justice in America is dead.

Not dead, moot., irrelevant.
I can attest to the hands of the law being very much alive, after having been arrested lately for saying "What the Fuck" to a fat, doofus rent-a-cop, and then repeating my mantra to the skinny little fascist fathermucker who took me into custody...

But if you were a member of the conservative ruling elite you could lie the nation into war, bankrupt the nation in the process, get hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the process, along with over 4000 Americans and the speaker or the house of representives won't even put impeachment on the table. You cuss a rent-a-cop and you go before Judge Judy.

In the eyes of justice there really are 2 Americas.

no longer a proud american @ 25:

what is blatantly evident is that Iglesias just as others before him does not come clean until the chickens come home to roost. only when it hits at home does he begin to reveal that which he knew to be the truth all along. sorrowfully, only those who read this blog and others like it will ever know the truth. the mainstream media does not choose to cover the truth. This should be major and yet it will be delegated to page 15 and a small story beneath brittany's latest doings.

That is so true. Iglesias and his colleagues should have spoke up immediately when they noticed unethical partisan practices in the Justice Department rather than waiting to be "outraged" only when it affected their paychecks.

"He buggered off..."

curtilingus @ 40:

Left&Left @ 39:

no longer a proud american @ 25:

what is blatantly evident is that Iglesias just as others before him does not come clean until the chickens come home to roost. only when it hits at home does he begin to reveal that which he knew to be the truth all along. sorrowfully, only those who read this blog and others like it will ever know the truth. the mainstream media does not choose to cover the truth. This should be major and yet it will be delegated to page 15 and a small story beneath brittany's latest doings.

That is so true. Iglesias and his colleagues should have spoke up immediately when they noticed unethical partisan practices in the Justice Department rather than waiting to be "outraged" only when it affected their paychecks.

Kinda like witnessing a murder and waiting until your book about witnessing the murder is ready and then calling the police. Oh well, the whole system is fucked up.

Also sounds like the journalists don't want to believe him.
Nor do they want us to believe him.

I agree, but by your use of the term "Journalists", I think you are giving ALL of the
MSM folks much too much credibility...How about "slumb bags"; seems more appropriate.

Weaseldog @ 44:

L.A. Confidential @ 31:

Ruthless People @ 29:

How can we catch bin Laden, we can't even catch Karl Rove.

It's about Angie and Brad this week. Relax, don't fight it, everything is under control.

Britney has started shipping FedX again or something.

That's important.

I heard it was "rent a box", not FedX.

linda @ 42:

please keep in mind, that this man is not a hero. he was more than willing to keep his mouth shut as he witnessed these administration crimes -- until bushco publicly implied that the federal prosecutors were fired for cause.

And the few that spoke up when it was happening, got shut up by the White House and media.

Stories about political corruption need to age until they no longer seem relevant.

L.A. Confidential @ 38:

General_Rennenkampf @ 35:

This is the sort of shit that's supposed to happen in a Third World rathole where only two people make the laws, the Despot and his successor. That this should happen with no penalty in a First World country is...disturbing.

Greatest scam ever pulled in history. Americans still don't know whats hit them, and whats still being done to them.

Obama will fix it.

(Right, sure he will uh huh)

Hillary lost, thank God, get over it....you're whining and unhinged now.

It's past fixing, friends.
They're--Obama., or whomever, gonna pull off a lotta shenanigans to make it LOOK like they can fix it, but it's a fool's errand.
The bushies have spent the last 8 years salting the federal bureacucracy with like-minded morons, Xian conservatards, and mental midgets who attended places like Regency or Liberty U "Law" school.
you're gonna have to wait til they die to replace 'em...
and til then, they'll happily pfucque up everything they touch...

I'll put a price on his head. A price so large he won't be able set foot near a civilized star system again.

now, now, now.... one could (accurately and honestly) claim that karl rove is a coward, and a criminal and a traitor. one could. easily.

but, the democratic party should build a friggin memorial to the fat fuck. he has helped to destroy the modern "conservative" movement, he has kneecapped the party he claimed to support, and he has turned his boner-inducing permanent republican majority into something about as appealing to americans as a cream-of-spinach-only lunch menu.

rove, ignore all of the (accurate and honest) insults and jeers--the left thanks you (even if they say it with calls for your castration) for doing what the democrats were too afraid to do: expose the dangers of reagan revolution.

so, from this lefty, xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

If the rule of law can be ignored by those we the people placed in power, or even those that were illegally installed, then under the equal protections clause all criminality should be allowed to go on unchecked. Why should a guy that should be held to a higher standard of law in the first place by the trust which should be expected of him by the people get away with ignoring the rule of law while the common man is held to it. This is not equal protection under the law. We really need to sue the U.S. Government for abrogating the founders contract (the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights) with us.

These F*ckers should all be tried and hung if guilty. It's pretty clear that they are guilty.

Yeah? And who's going do the indicting??

Republicans won't.

Dumbmocrats can't.

Enjoy your vacation Karl.

And joined on the hip with pink piggy Rove is the runt of the litter Fredo. If and when Rove gets indicted, down goes Fredo.

Iconoclast @ 57:

If the rule of law can be ignored by those we the people placed in power, or even those that were illegally installed, then under the equal protections clause all criminality should be allowed to go on unchecked. Why should a guy that should be held to a higher standard of law in the first place by the trust which should be expected of him by the people get away with ignoring the rule of law while the common man is held to it. This is not equal protection under the law. We really need to sue the U.S. Government for abrogating the founders contract (the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights) with us.

These F*ckers should all be tried and hung if guilty. It's pretty clear that they are guilty.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/spooner1.html

woody, tokin librul @ 20:

Jo @ 4:

Put a price on Rove's head and some poor bastard would bring him to justice real quick.

World-wide, like bin laden. Say, $5 million. He'd be delivered, trussed like an Xmas pig, in a matter of hours.

OMG!! What a great freakin' idea!!!

Crooks and Liars should start a money bomb fund to raise money as a bounty for delivering Rove to the Congress in shackles!!!

I wonder if we raised a couple million in a day or so how many "Dog-types" would be chasing Karl down? Ha!!!

"First guy (or gal??) to drag Rove into the Judiciary Committee room in chains and cuffs gets the loot."

@ 64: Dr Acula Says:

woody, tokin librul @ 46:
"See the thing is, if Iglesias is telling the truth, the journos look all the more like the loyal stenographers of the Regime…And their self-image (such as remains of it after spending the past eight years tongue-bathing Cheney’s prostate) can ill-withstand such a blow…"

Pun intended?Naturlich!

I believe that if Americans really care about this democracy it is vitally important for everyone to vote democratic in the next election. If McCain is elected, we might as well kiss our form of government goodbye, as so much will continue to be covered up and we will never get to the bottom of what actually has been done to damage our Constitution. I therefore believe that republicans who care about what the framers intended and want the TRUTH will vote to get to the bottom of it, and trust me on this, McCain is not that person!

Is it just me or does

Kidney punch

Sound like a nasty-ass party drink?

Move on people, nothing to see here. @ 72:

What? Do we not know where Rove is? Its not like hes in the "caves" with Bin Laden. JUST LOOK ON FOX NEWS! Send the Senate Sgt-at-arms to the damn studios! Cool him in the cells a minute, FORCE Bush to do something, and he will, it may even get to a regiment of tanks to surround the Congress. BUT I have more faith in out military.

They wouldn't need tanks. Fox would have a million true believers at the Capitol Building trying to burn the place down in a matter of hours.

Relative to a Bush pardon for Rove ... you can't pardon someone who hasn't been convicted of anything YET!

(Sigh)... What-ever..... This kubuki shit is just going to keep on keeping on... this year, next year, ad nuseum... Not that justice should not be served in this case which is the tip of a huge nation debilitating iceberg... No, justice should indeed be served. And if it was? Rove and all the rest would be spending their days in lockup prepping for international war crimes trials among other charges both domestic and international.... So, of course, as it stands, we'd all have better luck putting out some of these California wildfires by pissing into them.... than see any of that kind of thing come about....

One can only throw up ones hands at the sad state of this nations circumstances as our fine 'polished and gilded' political class do everything in their power and then some, to avoid actually doing their fucking jobs on this matter.... Like I said, at this point... what the fuck ever!!!..... Personally all I can actually add for what its worth, is I won't lose a moments sleep if 'Mr.' Rove turns up missing for a few weeks only to pop up in a docket in the Hague. After all, we ourselves have made 'rendition'... That whole sovereign shredding, international treaties nose thumbing shit quite the popular stratagem these days...

If Rove, or any of them suddenly vanished only to turn up in some other countries judicial system?? Maybe with a waterboarding session or two type memory fresh in their minds???? Well, I think one could use the phrase poetic justice and not be to far off the mark......JD

webegeeks @ 75:

Relative to a Bush pardon for Rove ... you can't pardon someone who hasn't been convicted of anything YET!

no need to if he won't be indicted...

Conyers sends me these newsletters all the time saying he's going to bust some balls but he never does. So I put him on my junk mail filter since all the does is talk tough but act like a sissy.

webegeeks @ 75:

Relative to a Bush pardon for Rove ... you can't pardon someone who hasn't been convicted of anything YET!

Isn't that kind of thinking tied to our old system of laws that we don't use anymore?

"Which I believe...He has information that I believe...So Rove is not testifying I think." Yeah, I think many (most) of us see Rove, and this latest act of hubris, for what they are, but increasingly I see posts like this on C&L, less substantive than opinion. Iglesias "believes" and "thinks" Rove is refusing for certain reasons, just as he "thinks" John Ashcroft was fired for a certain reason. Iglesias's certainty that Rove contributed to his (Iglesias's) firing is essentially a suspicion without evidence. I think Iglesias is probably right, but innuendo, inference and beliefs don't warrant a post. We have too many people on the fringes of direct knowledge suggesting and proposing, and when blogs are so quick to post anything that lends credence to a point-of-view it dilutes the message. (The "journalists" in this piece do no better--they didn't ask one tough question.) There are plenty of insiders with direct knowledge of Rove and his antics. Hopefully, in his book, Iglesias sticks with the factual story and abomination of the fired judges.

In politics there are partisan differences in policies and political tactics to advocate for your position...

... and then there is CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR!

These people never represented republican differences in policy. They are CORRUPT politicians and if the RNC were smart they would distinguish themselves from these evil fuckers and help us prosecute them.

Good to hear the truth but sad to know that Bush has the total judicial system all bought out and it will be close impossible to get justice for any case . . . particularly with the newest and greatest Bushite Mukasey!