McCain: "Oil executives" tell me my energy plan is awesome
By SilentPatriot Monday Jul 21, 2008 5:00pm
Memo to John McCain: When trying to sell your energy plan (Drill! Drill! Drill!) you might not want to cite the approval of oil executives. The last thing voters want to hear is that the fatcats who have been raking in record profits at our expense are happy with your "solution" to our problems.
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"My friends, we have to drill off shore. We have to do it. It's out there and we can do it. And we can do that. The oil executives say within a couple of years we could be seeing results from it. So why not do it?"
Ken over at Howies place asks: "Are those his environmental experts???"
And the DNC notes that McCain's position on off-shore drilling, beyond the initial flip-flop, keeps evolving:
McCain was in New Hampshire this afternoon where he unveiled the latest excuse for coastal drilling. Oil executives tell McCain that "within a couple of years we could be seeing results from it." There's no doubt that oil companies will profit handsomely from McCain's coastal drilling plan. It's helpful that McCain would relay that to an audience of voters.
First position: When he first announced his decision to abandon his longstanding opposition to offshore drilling, McCain said it would be helpful in the short term.
Second position: Days later, McCain and his top economic advisor admitted it would have no immediate effect, but would have a "psychological" impact.
Third position: Later he reversed himself once again, say drilling is part of his short term solution to energy prices.
The latest: During today's town hall meeting in New Hampshire, McCain says "oil executives" told him we "could see results" from offshore drilling "within a couple of years."
Considering that he can't even keep his facts straight, is it any surprise that his new ad offensive has been universally panned as "false," "misleading," and "wrong?"
Grandpa Whistletooth strikes again!
the dealers who are also junkies are telling the junkie dealers that their plans are a good thing.
we can get rid of all petroleum based fuels in less than 5 years if we don't try hard. algae based and prairie poly-culture based bio-fuels are the easy, the nonsensically easy, way to replace all gasoline and diesel type fuels. our entire transportation sector, vehicles, maintenance and vehicle manufacturing, can be left in place. the plants, the bio-tech and the production tech are already available.
how much more obviously incompetent can john mccain be?
Gee, yet another politician in bed with big oil? Who would have thought?
Of course they think it's "awesome" because it's continuation of herr dubyah's energy policy where oil executives are making 8 digit yearly salaries:
http://www.chron.com/databases/executivecompensation.html?appSession=083...
$50,549,026 James Mulva Chairman, CEO and President ConocoPhillips
$19,470,725 Clarence Cazalot Jr. President and CEO Marathon Oil Corp.
$17,023,538 David Lesar Chairman, President and CEO Halliburton Co.
$15,529,181 William Berry Retired Executive Vice President ConocoPhillips
Oh COME ON! Oil execs? Wow that makes me feel all tingly inside! Robber Barrens are setting policy! Welcome to Bush term number 3!
McCain is basically a pat on the back from the people robbing this country.
What does that say about McCain?
McCain is Bush's third term... only crankier, and crazier, and more senile.
Yes, Big Oil will profit handsomely from all the new-found American oil that they will sell to the Chinese.
I'm going to have to watch a documentary from the BBC to make up for the brains cells that were damaged from listening to that nonsense peddler.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaaaaaaa
hahahahahahhahahhahahhahhah (wiping tears of laughter) Hahah
Oh, that John McAsshole is the gift that keeps on giving. ha
So what town is this town hall meeting taking place? Neotardville?
Dilireus @ 7:
Naw they'll use it at home like a heroin addict who denies the world exists or there is another way, while the rest of the world moves to sustainable/renewable and mass electric transport system (oh, like the one Europe already has ......), I'm starting to enjoy being an "elitist" as it seems to be a synonym for "reasonably intelligent"........
Jason @ 10:
"Such as"
Is there no pandering off limits for this douche?
Oil executives? You mean the ones who are laughing all the way to the bank to make another huge deposit? Sir, you are an idiot.
I wonder what the oil exectives are telling him about his future fame and fortune?
I wonder if this new Oil Industry endorsement of his dumb ass energy policy will be mentioned on the MSM tonight.
Mr. McCain ought to get the opinion of
others--like the Sierra Club and Greenpeace.
Or, does his way of thinking prevent
him from asking others than the converted
for their thoughts?
Pimps constantly tell their whores of the great job their doing....McWhore.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 4:
Wow, just to have a little bit of the interest ....
Let's face it, this old fella has no idea about any of this. He is frustrated and desperate. He just says whatever he thinks might be right at the moment. He just tries to woo the voters by saying whatever he thinks they want to hear. In some circles that would be called bull-shitting. Some salesmen and women go through life doing it successfully. McCain thinks it will work for him in this election. He over estimates his sales ability.
If you own oil stock, you will see short term effects of off shore drilling.
OK. McCain has decades and decades of experience. He even has decades and decades of experience in the senate. So, McCain . . . . . where is our energy policy dated from any time you have been a senator? Trying to be president is a little too little and a lot too late.
McCain may think we are dumb but, Obama and ZBig are counting on us to let the establishment forge on to the same pile of corruption - we just get there a different way
Poor McCain. He steps of an airplane, and one measley reporter greets him. Instead of huge rallys, he is reduced to little town hall meetings. His sad, pathetic ads are a joke and he seems to be getting a little shrill. Now he hints he may pick his VP this week. He reminds me of a child looking for attention.
Big quarterly profit again by the Oil Company and share holders. Now as the price of a barrel of oil goes down the price of gas continues to go up. McCain will continue the Bush Crime Policy until the US can't recover from the Debt. We know McCain followers order and can't remember what he had for breakfast. If McCain steals the election the Middle East will make sure they continue to buy the the United States. Yes right now people should look at who owns their home loans as the banks have sold shares. Now Henry Paulson couldn't figure the the kids lunch money and that's why we're in the mess we're in now.
For his own protection, McCain should probablbly be institutionalized.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 16:
All I have seen about McCain today is a speech he made somewhere today where he said he would rather lose the election if it meant winning the war. Then he said Sen. Obama seems he would rather lose the war if it meant winning the election.
Ain't that a clever turn of words, for old Johnny.?
McCain is going to put the creative people out of business who have been hired by the 527 groups to come up with anti McCain ads. All these groups have to do is put video of McCain out there in his own words. Just like Planned Parenthood did.
Opening up new areas for off-shore leases makes no sense.
The vast majority of present off-shore leases currently held are unexplored and undeveloped.
Even with record high prices for crude, the oil companies are sitting on the leases and not exploring or drilling.
They know we've reached peak oil. They aren't interested in producing one single additional drop right now. Not when all of their modeling guarantees higher prices to come. They just want to gain control of the resource now, on the cheap, only to wait to explore and drill later when prices have gone up further.
Paul @ 25:
He will be, in the white house, soon enough.
Paul @ 25:
And for the world's protection too.
McCain lied through his teeth. Bush lifting a moratorium on drilling drove down prices? How exactly did that drive down prices? Did we start drilling all of a sudden and if we did did it get to the pumps that quick? What drove down prices is demand, Americans are using less gas and oil because of these prices and we are talking seriously about alternative forms of energy which is scaring the bejeebus out of big oil. That's what's driving down prices...at least temporarily.
McSame, like Bush, is just another deceitful Republican who will say and do anything to get elected. Lie through his teeth I tell you. And when he says "My Friends" he's talking to big oil, not the American people.
Obama will not stop the profits for big oil - don't trick yourself into thinking that - he is a different pony doing the same tricks on behalf of big business - the next election is a lose-lose for the electorate - just like all other elections
Well, DUH! Alert the Media!! Oil barons think Grampy McSame's energy policy is just peachy keen...........I haven't laughed so hard since the Enron scandal. Let's get rid of this doddering old fool and try to keep the country from sinking.....I'm beginning to feel as if I'm on the Titantic.
Slappy @ 31:
Pretty much.
“We have to drill off-shore. The oil executives say that within a couple of years we could be seeing results of it.”
Okay, so let them explore/drill the millions of acres of leases they already have offshore.
Torontonian @ 17:
McBain is happy to get the opinion of anyone that pays him to.
what did the choosen oil executives say about speculation
mccain.....he is desperate
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69257
McCain fondly remembers when the oil they drill today was originally his friends, the dinosaurs.
Jerry @ 33:
Perhaps you two should create circle jerk then move. You won't be missed.
we used to hang horse thieves, that's what Buffy would do anyway.
pissed off patricia @ 37:
HA!! Most of us just visit classmates.com
Yeah, we should start seeing the positive effects of the new drilling in about six months.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 38:
You're doing a fine job of leading they way, carry on ....... or you could stick to the point of the thread .....
Ahh comeon old dude... It'll only take a couple o years man.... we're the big shots and the x-purts on this sorta thang... We been rapin and pillag err, wait, we been pumping, err, wait, explorin, yea, explorin an ex-tractin and makin oil out o dinosaur parts for what, a kabillion years or so now... So wees the wons who knows whats goin on wit oil.... Comeon, whaddayasay..... Then it will all be puppys and kittens all around and the tooth fairy will give us all a tacks rebate chec cus we all bin good liddle bois and grrls... Then the easter bunny's gonna visit us and bring nice little candies and favors all around.. And the little white men in their little white coats will come to take us away ha ha hee hee ho ho, to the land of Lincoln logs and free flowin gas-o-leeen for all our big shiny toys and what not and and..... Whaa? No?? Waddayamean you don't think so!!??..... Sound like some kind of bullshit??? Yea??... So's that couple-o-years crap too....JD
As governor of California, I will do everything in my power to fight the federal government on this issue and prevent any new offshore drilling,” Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a McCain supporter, said Wednesday.
Another McCain ally, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, reversed his opposition to oil exploration off the state’s beaches after the presidential candidate said he supported lifting the moratorium. Crist said the issue is about local control.
“I think that not having that moratorium, blanket moratorium, and letting states rights be recognized, if you will, certainly is appropriate,” he said.
Crist said he didn’t know if Florida legislators would approve drilling, but like McCain he said states should be allowed to make their own decisions. McCain favors lifting the moratorium at the federal level, but allowing states to decide whether to allow drilling.
In other news...
Burgulars say leaving your doors unlocked and your cash on the floor is an effective security tool for securing your belongings.
"Oil executives tell McCain that “within a couple of years we could be seeing results from it.” ......and there are the actuarial executives who tell McCain "you could still be around to see it."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05292008/business/montana_governor_is_sittin...
montana governor(D) says drill in montana
No surprise here. Wonder if he got help from the boy Bush and his pal, barnacle Cheney.
This just in.....George Bush told John McCain he was once an oil executive. Still hasn't seen the results of his drilling at the pump though. He did trade Sammy Sosa to the White Sox. Saw those results.
He's the worst. Get him out of here already!
A new attack that attempts to label Obama as a flip-flopper.
[PRES] Let Freedom Ring: Both Ways Barack
http://youtube.com/watch?v=shYr0uCpXWA
McCain is the real flip flopper.
McCain's flip flop express
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D5-DnNsoA5Y
http://www.let-freedom-ring.org/ -the group that is responsible for the obama attack add.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Rendell -Ed Rendell- Democrat -He was elected Governor of the Commonwealth Pennsylvania in 2002 and is the spokesperson for Let Freedom Ring, the group that created the ad.
Even repubs or at least a lot of them, will raise hell if they start drilling off our Florida coast. Crist wants the veep spot so bad on McCain's ticket that he changed his mind about drilling here and got engaged to try to prove he isn't gay. How's that for desperation?
Chris Matthews just showed the pic of Senator Obama in the helicopter yesterday with Gen. Petraeus. Then he showed the pic of McCain in the golf cart yesterday with Bush Sr.
A picture really is worth a thousand words.
The Democratic governors of New Jersey and North Carolina joined Schwarzenegger in speaking out against lifting the moratorium.
“Our $35 billion economy is driven by tourism and the use of the shore,” said New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine.
North Carolina Gov. Mike Easley also argued to keep the moratorium in place.
“It’s doesn’t work for states to decide. If the state above or below you has a problem it affects your shores as well,” he said. “It’s too much squeeze for the juice when you look at real estate on the coast, recreational fishing and tourism that could be adversely affected by some problem.”
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At a Town Hall meeting McCain stressed the importance of learning about computers and the internet. "In a couple of years, my doctors tell me they'll be able to examine my prostate and I won't even feel it when they look up my youtube."
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 38:
Ohh, my feelings - delivering the truth is a thankless job - one you clearly do not appreciate - do some home work after you get your pecker out of your hand
not another Reagan presidency.
Nicky @ 54:
Damned good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read what you wrote or else now it would be all over my screen and keyboard. Good one!
So When he says "Oil Executives" he means Bush and Cheney right?
enigma4ever @ 58:
you got it...........the two that fxxked the dollar that's
why were in this mess.....and now it's time to play the
blame game or shell game whatever
The problem with drilling offshore is the five to ten year waiting lists
for drill ships.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/business/19drillship.html
Unfucking believable.
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&It...
good short video on oil
the oil executives have bent mcfuckhead over
oiled him up for the intake so he can turn on
his constituents and dry-hump us.
Since oil is bought and sold in dollars worldwide, the devalued dollar has made the recent surge in energy prices even worse for Americans, leading to $4 gasoline in the United States. Analysts suggest that of the $140 a barrel that oil fetches globally, some $25 may be due to the devalued dollar.
we have all been throwing around the term "Big Oil", now how many of these companies are even American owned and/or based? BP, Shell Chevron are all foiegn companies, right? So not only are we giving all this money to OPEC, we dont even to keep the profits in this country? Am I wrong on this?
My Friends, we have to drill Vicki Iseman. It's there. We can do it. Why not?
This will go down as a McCain GAFF. I wonder if Tboonpickens called his plan awsome. I dont think he did.
http://www.tboonepickans.com
LOL, He is one big Gaff this election season. There is one site I go to to see all his gaffs they have a video line up of most of em. Its
http://www.mccanes.com < Videos of all of McCains Gaffs., also video of McCain falling asleep on ConanObrien.
They just put the video of him falling asleep on the conan Obrien show. I laughed pretty hard. Cant believe the news hasnt covered this more. I found another site that has all of the Romney attack videos, The videos Romney used to attack McCain during the primary. It would be a huge mistake to pick a romney VP. Theres a video of Romney saying McCain is dishonest. Wow. A Romney VP would be a Present with a Big Bow on it for the DNC. the site with the Romney attack ads is
http://www.hotpres.com < Romney attack ads on McCain, Video of Romney Calling mccain dishonest.
I wonder how many Gaffs McCain would have if he became pres.?
jeff @ 65:
not sure your wrong but there are plenty of american
stockholders...and most oil traded in in u.s. dollars
that's one of the reasons u.s. didn't like saddam he got off the u.s. petro dollar which the fed.(bankers) didn't like.....other countries are threatening to accept other
currencies because dollar so weak has dropped over 40% in relative value the last six years.....
jeff @ 65:
Big Oil owns America.
Awesome....
Watching McCain's campaign is kind of like watching an old movie reel of the Hindenburg crash. It just keeps on getting worse. (I figure we are about at the point where the entire bag catches fire. I wonder if there will even be smoldering embers left by November...)
"His new ad offensive"?
Frankly, I've found all his ads to be offensive.
My local paper today:
SF Chronicle
Bonkers @ 72:
Equally as big a problem as is encountered with offshore drilling is the fact(as reported
in the NYT's earlier this week) is the FACT that there is a tremendous shortage of
oil cargo ships to transport the oil to refinaries. The article indicated that even if
offshore drilling was okeyed, it would be FIVE(5) years into the future BEFORE enough
new cargo ships could be built and/or available. This important and significant piece
of information is NOT being covered/reported by the MSM on their 24 hr. coverages.
Jerry @ 8:
LOL. That was a good one.
Bonkers @ 72:
“As governor of California, I will do everything in my power to fight the federal government on this issue and prevent any new offshore drilling,” Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a McCain supporter, said Wednesday.
Translation:
Drilling off shore may bring results in 2 years....or 7 years or some number of years (results in oil company profits, not results in lowering the prices you pay). And shouldn't we really be drilling now to make sure that oil prices stay high and we continue to pay $4 or more for a gallon of gas while oil companies make billions of dollars in profits per day while our currency and economy crash. And shouldn't I, McInsane (the Manchurian Candidate), make sure that you know nothing about how oil is collected and sold on the open market internationally via Nymex, so it doesn't matter how much oil we drill and obtain domestically except for our own reserves. And shouldn't I purposely fail to mention any other relevant facts that may make you change your mind as I tell you about oil company interests and try to push those interests on you and make you think they're your interests?
After all, oil is as Amurikan as apple pie, mom, baseball, or neat new laser guided bombs used to ensure the freedom of more brown skinned peoples...to leave this world and enter the afterlife.
And they want to put more rigs in the gulf where they are now evacuating the crews b/c of Dolly the huricane, this is not a reliable option.
"The last thing voters want to hear is that the fatcats who have been raking in record profits at our expense are happy with your “solution” to our problems." That may be the last thing the voters want to hear, but in actuality, it's the first thing they need to hear again and again and again. Soundbyte played ad nauseum.
Damn the guy is like Sherlock Holmes! Of course the rich bastards in the oil industry will love more of the same. Tax the little guy at the pump, reduce the taxes to the rich, fat, cats, jack up the price of oil via the commodities markets (deregulated) and tghe tax doesn't look like a tax but it is. The CEOs drive up the stock values which pumps up the golden parachutes. The thugs in the McSame party the Great Oil Party take us for fools. If we fall for their crimes, we are fools.
I'm so sick of listening to John McCain bitching and moaning about Sen. Obama. Obama was right on Iraq all along. The surge is like fix a flat on a broken down car. If we are in a Global War on Terror under the Bush Doctrine how is it that they are harboring Bin Laden, providing a safe haven for Al Qaeda and they have Nuclear WMD? John McCain just looks terrible as well!
Where Are The Media Critics When You Need Them
It is truly hard to get a complete picture of the campaign atmosphere when you have the power concentrated on one side. When the media controls the pro and the con of the issues being debated, they have the potential to create a false reality. CNN and MSNBC focused on the media' infatuation with Barack Obama all day. The real picture could not be further from the truth.
Since John McCain entered this race, he has gotten a "free pass" from the media. On a daily bases, McCain makes mistakes that would of ended Obama's presidency. Would you vote for Obama if he didn't know the geographical landscape of the most dangerous part of the world? Yes, we know there is no Iraqi Pakistan boarder, but not McCain.
When you cannot conceptualize an accurate picture of what you are dealing with in the middle east, you are disadvantaged at the core of your thoughts and analytical perspective. In other words, he is out of his league. So far, the media treats McCain like he has very little negatives. This was exampled when Westley Clark made the statement being in the military, POW or any other status, does not automatically make you president material. The media framed this like if Clark was a bigot. It was simply a fact -- Here and anyplace else in this world.
When the media controls how the argument is delivered, it is wrong, but when you add to that control a say of how it is defended, the reality they create is so misleading and moves into the realm of propaganda. There is often a 3 to 1 ratio in favor of McCain on the news shows. Added to this disadvantage is a Democratic defender who never seems to argue all the points. This is by design; don't forget we have a conservative owned media. Show me where the Liberal monopoly is? I rest my case -- only until the next issue.
Joseph
Everybody knows that drilling would have immediate results because McCain is aware of drilling and he'll show us as soon as he get's online himself.
Never fear, the Corporate Media's Ministry of Truth Division will take Mr. McGoo and his ever changing set of facts and fix him right up.
The vast majority of the electorate cannot remember what happened between the first and the second commercial of their teevee viewing day, or any such segment.
Their attention span is the same as the moth, and like a moth, they hover over the bright lights of the boob tube and soak in what the Ministry of Truth dishes out.
McGoo was for it, before he was against it, before he was for it again, before he forget what the subject of the conversation ever was.
No problem!
Vinnie @ 1
Grandpa Whistletooth
Classic
Does anyone have the guts to tell this bitch, they lied to him?
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 4:
come on people why do you think the crooks are helping them...?????....these guys need all the help they can get paying for those huge mc mansions and all those gas guzzling suv's.....wake up people they need our help.
Note to McDofuss;
They are just trying to getting oil leases on the cheap. They think years ahead while you are thinking about what Obama said an hour ago. Ever hear of the bell curve?
California has a good program wherein we pay mentally challenged individuals to clean up road side rest areas. They do excellent work with very little supervision and have the pride of doing good work. Maybe you should apply.
From Fact Check.
McCain ad says Obama's the guy to thank for emptying our wallets at the filling station. We say that's ridiculous.
Summary
McCain's new ad accuses Obama of keeping gas prices high, all by himself. That's absurd, and McCain knows it – he has said repeatedly that our current problems were "30 years in the making."
The ad also tells us that gas prices are high because "some in Washington are still saying no to drilling in America." Not true. The federal government's estimate is that if the moratorium on offshore drilling were lifted today, it would be 2030 before we'd see a noticeable effect on supply and prices.
For the same reason, it's simply not true that drilling more now will "rescue our family budgets."
End of Fact Check .
On a side note, I was just down in the Santa Barbara Channel yesterday. I got invited to go surfing in the Cojo/Jalama Ranch(Very Private stretch of coast on Pt Conception) for my birthday(51) . While I was there, I went for a long walk on the beach to check out the oil on the beach from the 16 offshore platforms out there in the channel. Unfortunately I have to report there is alot of oil on the rocks there. Now to be fair about this, There is shale rock with oil in it there. But nothing like what is spilled on the rocks. You couldn't walk a few feet without seeing oil. And I walked over a mile. Not a long walk, But it is when you're walking on slippery rocks.
Theres a story circulating around about the new owners of the ranch wanting to drill for oil in the channel from land. I guess it's kinda like drilling sideways and down to tap the oil there. I don't know, sounds kinda sketchy to me . While I was on the Highway on the way home . I passed through this little town called San Ardo. Now , there is oil there.
But for some reason they capped all the wells there over 25 years ago. There must be over 100 wells there now. Almost all of them pumping as we speak. It looked like some of them were down for repair or restoration. But there pumping again.
I say if you have to drill for oil, use the leases on land first. Develop more vehicles like the Prius. Use that vehicle as a jumping off point and develop more cars and trucks along those lines for now. Anyone who thinks that we can't do it. Is full of it. It's already being done.
Well, theres my 2 cents worth. gn folks, Be Well.
gee, that's just spiffy keen there john.
big oil's done so well by us in the past too.
i can't begin to tell you how pleased i am that they're tickled pink by your little energy plan.
who run bartertown?!