Open Thread
By Nicole Belle Tuesday Jul 22, 2008 11:30pmOur friend (and C&L fan) Richard Lewis returns to Countdown
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We love you, Richard, but Amato wants to know if it would kill you to mention C&L when you're on Countdown. C'mon, throw the guy a bone. You can pick up Richard's book The Other Great Depression here and here on audio.
John McCain Proves Himself To Be ‘Hollow Caustic’
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. McCain Quest: The Search for Attention!
Catch the re-broadcast, tonight at 1pm edt, 10pm pdt; check your local listings.
Jon Stewart is our nation's pre-emininent journalist! What does that say about the state of journalism in America today?
I'm sensing the stench of desperation.
Yesterday was a very bad day for Grandpa.
And the myth that the MSM is in the tank for Obama is B.S.
Katie Couric is a fraud.
Come on, November....
Faux continues to prove their complete and utter stupidity: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3083/1000189bv8.jpg
What's with the "American Ethanol" advertisements on C&L? (top right of the site)
Don't you guys know that Ethanol made from corn is barely viable as a fuel supplement, and has driven people around the world into starvation from increased food costs?
Anyway, speaking about throwing a bone for some media types...how about featuring some Hippy Gourmet segments on C&L? Easy enough to link to at www.YouTube.com/HippyGourmet
Peace, Love and Organics!
HippyGourmet @ 4:
Let's feature us all!
Why does the Bush administration hate the US workforce?
U.S. Rushes to Change Workplace Toxin Rules
Political appointees at the Department of Labor are moving with unusual speed to push through in the final months of the Bush administration a rule making it tougher to regulate workers' on-the-job exposure to chemicals and toxins.
The agency did not disclose the proposal, as required, in public notices of regulatory plans that it filed in December and May. Instead, Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao's intention to push for the rule first surfaced on July 7, when the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) posted on its Web site that it was reviewing the proposal, identified only by its nine-word title.
. . . .
The department's speed in trying to make the regulatory change contrasts with its reluctance to alter workplace safety rules over the past 7 1/2 years. In that time, the department adopted only one major health rule for a chemical in the workplace, and it did so under a court order.
ldzppln @ 6:
How would they like it if we made their workplace a little less safe. They don't really need the secret service, do they?
The Pickens Plan
Do you all remember when Harry Reid said in April of 2007 that we were losing in Iraq? The repugs, and many Dems were all over him and he has been associated with that remark ever since. Well, this tidbit comes from McCain's interview with Katie Couric the other day:
“Couric: Sen. Obama also told me, Sen. McCain, that the money spent on those additional troops, on the surge, might have been more effective had it gone to Afghanistan or even to a better energy policy in the United States. What’s your response?
McCain: The fact is we had four years of failed policy. We were losing. We were losing the war in Iraq. The consequences of failure and defeat of the United States of America in the first major conflict since 9/11 would have had devastating impacts throughout the region and the world.”
RAPPER NAS HAS A TAKE ON FUX
nice video too.
yes, he's another black man they lie about.
Che's Lounge @ 9:
Che, can you send a link to Countdown? I would love to see that broadcast.
Che's Lounge @ 9:
and exactly when is the media going to say anything about this?
tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick.....
odanny @ 8:
so now it's more important to help pickens with his investments than it is to have a broader search for real solutions. I'm quite sure he owns a lot of the companies involved in his ideas. and of course, the corporate media will make sure to act as his megaphone.
A 7th season of Curb Your Enthusiasm!
Right-fucking-on!!
Obama declares accountability "off the table":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSrWjY5S0zI
Interesting that none of these so-called liberal/progressive blogs have any interest in this video. Usually, they love Olbermann . . .
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 10:
I like NAS, listen to the lyrics to "We March As Millions", great stuff
Minimum wage earners see new raise vanish
Seventy cents in federal standard immediately eaten up by gas, food costs
kali yuga @ 15:
this video just goes right over these peoples head kind of like fisa and the patriot act!
ldzppln @ 6:
because he has always hated the lower classes.
his base is "the haves and the have-mores"
swampfox @ 18:
people keep forgetting the part of the primary campaign where the media peeled off the progressives, starting with Kucinich.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 17:
Well, us on social security are getting hit harder but it still doesn't make it right. They don't care about you people. Vote your pocketbook in your own self interests. F*ck the already haves.
PASS IT AROUND
I haven't researched the guy, but is anyone wondering if McCain might pick T. Boone Pickens as his running mate? Pickens is running an ad on MSNBC that looks notoriously like a campaign ad, and I can't help but wonder if it is (a) Picken's way of soliciting McCain for the VP slot, and/or (b) an end-run-around-election-laws self-paid advertisement used to introduce Pickens to the U.S. before he is named as the VP nominee. I saw an interview clip with Pickens where he stated that, while he didn't agree with the full gamut of McCain's policies, he is a life long Republican and would be voting for McCain.
swampfox @ 18:
Tyree, why did you change your name?
Ron @ 21:
Well, us on social security are getting hit harder but it still doesn't make it right. They don't care about you people. Vote your pocketbook in your own self interests. F*ck the already haves.
McKeatingFive get $2,000.00/month and he complains about SocSec. He gets that after being on the public tit his entire life.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 13:
Someone will profit, regardless. The challenge is changing the paradigm and it wont happen without corporate America
Keith Olbermann on MSNBC
Inside the McBrain
Ok, I'm too busy to blog extensively these days, but if I've been paying attention, McCain and his McCampaign people have decided to communicate to the public...........
(a) Barack Obama's position against increased drilling on American lands or off American shores is the cause of high gas prices.
(b) Allowing oil companies to begin the process of such increased drilling, the fruits of which will be owned by those companies and sold on a world oil market just like the rest of the planet's waning supply of oil, will magically bring the cost of gasoline down to the prices the preceded the Iraq war.
(c) If you don't believe (b), just ask the oil companies, and their word will prove it to you.
(d) All good things in Iraq are the result of the surge, including events that preceded it.
(e) Only John McCain had the courage to support the surge despite common political wisdom that it would cost him the election, which, in turn, means he deserves to win the election.
(f) We have won the war in Iraq. Obama's insistence that the troops come home within a year and a half indicates his unwillingness to recognize that we have won in Iraq. Therefore, we must stay there.
(g) Failing to understand the basic differences between Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims, al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas and each of their respective relations with Iran in no way undermines McCain's knowledge of how to fight the war on terror.
(h) The fact that world leaders, including the Iraqis, have acknowledged that Obama's judgment and plans vis-a-vis Iraq are not just sound, but desirable, in no way bolsters the argument that Obama is qualified to become the commander-in-chief. The fact that McCain was shot down in Vietnam decades ago proves that he is qualified to become the commander-in-chief.
(i) To question the latter assertion in (h) is to denigrate McCain's actual military service in Vietnam, to Swiftboat him.
(j) Czechoslovakia remains a major player on the world stage, and Iraq borders Pakistan.
(k) McCain's greatest asset is his understanding of foreign policy.
To continue to assert such claims, the McCain camp is betting that by November, enough Americans will believe them for McCain either to win the election or to steal it without being overly conspicuous.
Please tell me that even Americans aren't that fucking stupid.
odanny @ 26:
Karen @ 28:
Let's make sure all americans get access to Google Maps. That will solve everything. The internet tubes will flood their minds with cleansing knowledge, washing away the thought-clogging ignorance. The resulting enlightment will....
*pop*
oops! think I dozed off in mid-thread
odanny @ 26:
this is still about wealth and not about productivity or creativity. Is pickens going to raise all boats in his wake? no! he will continue profiting. this is not about a solution to the energy problem, but about profits for pickens. settling for another corporate solution will keep us where we are - in deep shit.
a word from president john f. kennedy
mcSurge video worth watching anbar awakening started prior to surge....good gems for most of us will get but other people that have a different life it's much easier for them to believe mccain that the SURGE was successful cuz of him and he invented the surge
http://www.veracifier.com/episode/TPM_20080723
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 31:
Whoever can get some results as to solving the energy problem would be a plus. His interest will create more investment for a solution. Let's keep an open mind about this.
constituent @ 33:
McCain invented the surge right after he invented the wheel.
Ron @ 34:
when prices drop, you can pry mind open with a feather. until then, there will be no acceptable profit-based solution provided by a corporation. they want to sell you stuff NOW, so you can buy stuff NOW so they can profit NOW. there are plenty of scientists and plenty of other ideas than pickens'. I'd like to see more. his 'alternatives' are too convenient for me. and when did he become such a great scientist?
FEMA's trying to avoid responsibility again, this time over those toxic trailers. Speaking of toxic, some French nuclear reactor workers have only been "slightly" contaminated. Global warming expands the Gulf dead zone. Cancer does appear to be linked to cell phone use, while on-line banking ain't safe.
May i be excused from prying anyone's mind open with a feather? It sounds like a highly skilled profession to me. :)
Olbermann: McKeatingFive denies what he just said about the "SURGE", Then says he was right and he re-explains....
And CBS posted the complete video instead of the manipulated one.
Tequila @ 37:
you're scaring me.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 36:
Point taken, but it will still take investment. We can't look at it as a situation that someone can't profit because someone always will. Hopefully, we will all benefit from it. I agree that it will require more investigation, but the ones that are trying to drill or control oil leases should be under more scrutiny.
kali yuga @ 15:
i see same stuff different day....i addressed this the other night. many don't like what bush has pulled and gotten away with....i'm sure your more interested in talking obama vs. pinning the tail on the real guilty donkey(bush/cheney). why obama's legal counsel said they would go after the "most egregious" let's go directly to obama and ask.....bush and his DOJ legal team have used the "war" to go after their agenda.
a crime is a crime i get that......i don't like dirty politics
i'm not sure we know absolutly(100%) what obama is going to do.
oh...i did address and didn't let it go over my liberal head....and i don't usually love obama or any pop culture people.....except some cool bands
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 40:
Nukes, coal and offshore drilling will save us!
From a quality life.
The sun comes up in the east.
The sun sets in the west.
Fish got to swim.
Birds got to fly.
The price of gas goes down before presidential elections.
xoites defends Constitution @ 43:
"x" is in the casa
xoites defends Constitution @ 43:
Hi X, nice to have you back.
I NEED ALL YOUR HELP TO SEE IF I AM THE ONLY ONE NOTICING THE FOLLOWING:
1. The flag on the military uniform is being shown 'backwards' on some sleeves
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2. In watching hearings on C-Span, DoD officials' name card said "HON. Chertoff" instead of the usual "Mr. Chertoff".
3. Late but noteworthy: The unit assigned (now dismantled) to find Bin Laden referred to him as 'UBL-Usama Bin Laden'. How and when did they change it to 'Osama Bin Laden?
4. There has been NO mention of Saddam's doubles. Where are they?
1-3 seem signs of attempt of programming or control our thinking by slight changes that are not immediately noticed until we start really thinking.
Just wondering all......
xoites defends Constitution @ 43:
I guess I'll have to choose between various cancers and simple suffocation. I think I'll get a haircut at Sweeney Todd's instead.
meohmy @ 47:
Food for thought, but that's all.
Oh joyful day, AREVA's coming to Idaho. Be still my heart (poor choice of words).
http://www.snakeriveralliance.org/News/Articles/tabid/122/ctl/ArticleVie...
seevee @ 44:
the only question is: are these vampires disciplined enough to do it, or are they so far gone they get the shakes after sundown?
NOTE about post #47: Chertoff is Homeland security, but the name card for Dod officials also showed 'Hon.' in front of their last name. It was the Appropriations Committee meeting I was watching. Senator R.Byrd is the Chairman.
As far as I know, it is a new tactic. If someone agrees, please tell me what you think.
Olbermann and Maddow dissect the CBS participation in the McKeatingFive protection racket called the media.
test on pew kind of interesting takes1-2 minutes
http://typology.people-press.org/typology/
bullfrog @ 51:
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/gas.prices.drop.2.778351.html
Ron @ 46:
Hey ron, you brought your charm? ;<[)
Good evening all :)
Tequila@37
Just today I was watching some Repub blowhard on c-span talking about how the French were so much smarter than we are for their use of nuclear energy. Looks like they are trying to push through as many unsafe laws as possible before the next administration.
seevee @ 55:
yes! oil is down to $12*.00/barrel. and gass will come down, just like it did in 2006. yes, it actually did come down until after the election. I believe they waited until mid January to pick up the pace again.
xoites defends Constitution @ 57:
evening, evening, Professor X.
:<[)
LOL! There seems to be a case of mistaken identity. :)
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 59:
That's how they roll baby! You can set your watch by 'em.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 59:
I remember that very clearly. Bush was running on the platform that everybody was happy because gas prices had gone down.
thomas @ 58:
i'm not absolute about this but one of the issues i've heard about nuclear is gettingthe new reactors/facilities insured...also investors for projects like this don't want any risk. often this ends up being a social project. of course there are other issues like environmental.
ron you may not believe this but thiers people here that dont like me, thats why i changed my name , see i was an ok guy when we all hated bush but now that im not an obama fan well you know! but its ok im still in the only guy worth voteing for dennis kucinich, you know the guy who stands up for impeaching bush, lord love the little kooch!
xoites defends Constitution @ 63:
and people saw through it and switched 9 house seats from (R) to (D).
swampfox @ 65:
I still dig you!
you got spunk, kid.
Oh i forgot, also fear. Gas prices and fear.
Now McCain is running on the platform that whatever he says is true unless he miscorrects it and the his miscorrection is true until he decides to go back to his first mistatement.
That and the solitude factor.
If you want real honest to god privacy go to a McCain appearance.
swampfox @ 65:
Hey everyone, I solved another mystery it seems. Swampfox may very well be tyree. Go back to #24.
Ron @ 69:
I knew that weeks ago. :)
Hi Tyree. :)
constituent @ 64:
the biggest problem is our current, aging nukular implementation. essentially, the radioactivity poisons everything, and I mean everything, including the 'containment' and they are talking $3ooMil at least per reactor. the radioactivity also breaks down everything, and I mean everything at the subatomic level, so ther is decay at the subatomic level.
any proposed nuclear solution will pretty much guarantee the slow poisoning of this country on a far greater scale.
It's totally unviable as a long-term solution.
xoites defends Constitution @ 70:
Sure you did. Whatever.
Alright, go ahead and insult me.
GNA!
mccain giving props to bush for the drop in crude price....my guess it has more with movement of the u.s. dollar ...i also think
speculators are getting some pressure (that's a maybe) and it won't
get talked about...they don't want the public catching on to speculators. this is a little strategy for the bush following
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D923OQCO0&show_article=1
swampfox @ 65:
Actually, most of us liked you, we just didn't agree with you on all things.
xoites defends Constitution @ 68:
-------- like this --------
it is mind-numbing that he could think someone believes the shit he spews.
xoites defends Constitution @ 73:
peace and
night night!
xoites defends Constitution @ 73:
Hey, just kidding. Stick around.
Minimum wage can't keep up with rising costs.
Minimum wage hikes, I mean.
Watching my local news just now, I've learned that McGrandpa is coming to Bakersfield Monday to fundraise...yep, rather go to the country club than deal with the poor people of Kern County. Oh well...I predict Kern will go red anyway...it always does. Lots of wingnuts here.
Annaleigh @ 81:
mccain giving props to bush for the drop in crude price....my guess it has more with movement of the u.s. dollar ...i also think
speculators are getting some pressure (that's a maybe) and it won't
get talked about...they don't want the public catching on to speculators. this is a little strategy for the bush following
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D923OQCO0&show_article=1
i doubt will see him stopping in santa monica
Four of our soldiers got charged with premeditated murder.
constituent @ 82:
Good point, first thing that came to mind when I heard this was the oilmen. I'm sure they'll use our local drilling as an excuse to drill further in this country! *sigh*
Mississippi has to worry about the recent oil spill turning into another Exxon Valdez-style disaster.
Fucking perverts
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1824206,00.html?xid=feed-c...
"The price of oil dropped $10 a barrel," said McCain, who argued that the psychology of lifting the ban has affected world markets.
There he goes again with the "it's all in your mind" arguement!
actually i've got proof that phil gramm was complicit in allowing banks to hide billions in assets, and i'm going to the dept of justice to show them all the secret evidence just as soon as i cross the stree----AAAAAAHHHH IT'S ROBERT NOVAK IN A CORVETTE!!! ***WHAM!!!!*** urrrrgggggghhh....
Annaleigh @ 87:
mccain giving props to bush for the drop in crude price....my guess it has more with movement of the u.s. dollar ...i also think
speculators are getting some pressure (that's a maybe) and it won't
get talked about...they don't want the public catching on to speculators. this is a little strategy for the bush following
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D923OQCO0&show_article=1
he's trying to give credit to bush....and he may be due some credit
i personally doubt it.....the u.s. dollar gained some relative value
and i believe the oil speculators are getting some pressure that's just my thought
last year the average cost of a gallon of gas about 2.95 bring it down to that and offer tax breaks for hybrids