It doesn't matter how many bonehead mistakes McCain makes. As long as he and his surrogates keep chanting "Obama will raise your taxes", the moron American sheeple voters will elect him in a landslide.
A major voting machine maker has notified its customers in 34 states that a programming error discovered during testing may cause votes to be dropped when they are uploaded to a computer server from the machines' vote-holding memory cards.
Premier Election Solutions Inc. supplies touch-screen voting systems as well as scanners for paper ballots to large and small customers throughout the nation. The error communicated in a Tuesday product advisory occurs when multiple memory cards are being uploaded at the same time, and it is more likely to occur in jurisdictions that have several voters and use touch-screen voting systems, said Premier spokesman Chris Riggall.
The Allen, Texas-based Premier is a unit of North Canton-based Diebold Inc.
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McCain will win. As he should, as Obama is murdered by slow, masochistic dilution of "principle."
Kind of like this one. He doens't know what the fuck principle means or he is intentionally ignorant. To him principle is calling someone a liar when you yourself lie. Calling someone an elitist when your head is so high in the sky you think the people are ants and deserved to be stepped on.
Maybe a music video will help.
Did you see the number of dipshits and their asinine comments on Alternet.
My favorite inconsistenciesabout that day revolve around Flight 93 and the "Let's Roll!" legend--wreckage, telephone calls, the debris trail, the engine found eight miles away, shit like dat...Me, I'm almost 100 percent certain that plane was shot down, and covered up to protect against liability in wrongful death suits...
Name one intelligent conversation you have had with a republican in the last 8 years. I can't think of one. All they have is what Rush, Sean or one of the other talking heads have brainwashed them with. Not one common sense answer to anything.
Wed, 08/20/2008 - 23:28 — John - really disappointed by the Democratic Party (not verified)
Monday, August 18, 2008
TWO FORMER GOP CONGRESSMEN TO U.S. COMBAT FORCES WORLDWIDE: MCCAIN UNFIT TO SERVE AS YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF
Ex-Reps. Warn Troops: As Senator He Abandoned American POWs Trapped in Indochina; as President He'll Abandon You
By
Bill Hendon & John LeBoutillier
Ed. note: This message from former U.S. Congressmen Bill Hendon (R-NC) and John LeBoutillier (R-NY) is being posted today on numerous military blogs and websites.
~~~~~~~~~~
He has told me several times over the years that the myth of live POWs was a cruel hoax on the families. He chaired hearings into the issue in the 1990s and found nothing. “The committee … pored over thousands of records and every claim of a sighting, no matter how outlandish,” says Salter. “It was all untrue.”
Wed, 08/20/2008 - 23:42 — Janice G Washington (not verified)
McCain's Achilles heel is of course his Senate ethics commitee censure over being part of the Keating 5. So - how does this stack up with Rezko, Obama's AH?
March 8, 2005
Revisiting The Keating 5
In order to understand John McCain's present circumstances, it may be helpful to recall his entry into the Senate, tarnished with scandal over the savings and loan system collapse in the late 1980s. John McCain had been a recipient of over $100,000 in donations from Charles Keating, the owner of Lincoln Savings and Loan and American Continental Corporation. Keating used the S&L to float out bad bonds in ACC, resulting in a $2 billion loss and bailout from the FSLIC and the loss of millions of dollars to ordinary shareholders in ACC.
McCain ran interference for Keating, as the Arizona Republic's Bill Muller wrote:
In 1982, during McCain's first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election. In 1983, during McCain's second House race, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for McCain, though he had no serious competition and coasted into his second term. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000.
By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. ...
The first meeting, on April 2 in DeConcini's office, included Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, as well as four senators: DeConcini, McCain, Alan Cranston, D-Calif., and John Glenn, D-Ohio. ... The second meeting was on April 9. The same four senators attended, along with Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich. Also at the meeting were William Black, then deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., James Cirona, president of the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, and Michael Patriarca, director of agency functions at the FSLIC.
In a recent interview with The Republic, Black said the meeting was a show of force by Keating, who wanted the senators to pressure the regulators into dropping their case against Lincoln. The thrift was in trouble for violating ''direct investment'' rules, which prohibited S&Ls from taking large ownership positions in various ventures.
''The Senate is a really small club, like the cliche goes,'' Black said. ''And you really did have one-twentieth of the Senate in one room, called by one guy, who was the biggest crook in the S&L debacle.'' ... ''They presented themselves as a group,'' Black said, ''and DeConcini is the dad, who's going to take the primary speaking role. Both meetings are in his office, and in both cases it's 'we' want this, with no one going, 'What do you mean we, kemo sabe?' ''
And in both meetings, the message from one-twentieth of the Senate was clear: Keating needed to get special treatment. McCain would later argue that he was just looking out for his constituent, but the five Senators made it plain that they wanted the investigation to end immediately if Lincoln could not be charged with any violations at the time. John Glenn in particular made it plain that regulators needed to act or pack it up, and DeConcini insisted that their intervention on behalf of Lincoln was proper to protect an employer who had promised to clean up if left alone.
These meetings eventually became public as federal regulators, two years later and an untold millions of dollars lost to investors and the FSLIC, finally closed down Lincoln Savings and charged Charles Keating with fraud. The damage done to the five varied; Cranston never ran again for public office, while McCain managed to reinvent himself as a crusader -- but some forget that it wasn't just the campaign contributions that Keating made which tied him so closely to the "maverick" Arizona Senator:
On Oct. 8, 1989, The Republic revealed that McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental jet. Three of trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.
McCain also did not pay Keating for the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Total cost: $13,433.
And when the Arizona Republic made these connections public, McCain erupted in one of his characteristic outbursts that earned him the sobriquet Senator Hothead:
''You're a liar,''' McCain snapped Sept. 29 when a Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife and Keating. ''That's the spouse's involvement, you idiot,'' McCain said later in the same conversation. ''You do understand English, don't you?'' He also belittled the reporters when they asked about his wife's ties to Keating. ''It's up to you to find that out, kids.''
And then he played the POW card. ''Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics,'' McCain said.
Eventually, the Senate Ethics Committee wound up giving McCain and Glenn the least of the censures it handed down to the Keating 5, rebuking them for "poor judgment" while inflicting no punishment. The Keating collapse wound up costing taxpayers and investors a total of $3.4 billion, a number that could have been mitigated substantially had the five not interfered with the regulatory agency's investigation of Keating.
Now, what exactly has changed? McCain has intervened on behalf of a contributor -- an indirect contributor, to be sure, but one solicited by and benefitting his chief political advisor for a group that closely allies itself to McCain and his agenda and heavily promotes the Senator. Within weeks this intervention, the contributor cut a six-figure check solicited by Rick Davis. The only changes to the Keating scenarios are that McCain learned to put a buffer or two between the money and himself and that he acted alone to intervene with a regulatory agency on their behalf.
This activity is what McCain promised he'd correct, first when he apologized for his role in the S&L scandal, and later when he assaulted the First Amendment and limited political speech during election campaigns. In other words, nothing has changed except McCain's pomposity and hypocrisy.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that,in contrast to mccain, "senator obama offersmuch larger tax breaks to low-and middle-income and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers."
Obama plan:$37,595-66,354...see tax cuts of$1,042.00yr.
Mccain plan:$37,595-66,354...see tax cuts of $319.00
mccain's biggest cuts for peeps making more than $2.8mil.
If Willard is elected VP expect him to be out of the country bashing it to the rest of the world, because that is what he spent his final year as MA govenor doing - traveling all around the US increasing his brand image by bashing Massachusetts. Real noble work that Willard "Mitt" Romney did for MA.
Who cares if my felony drug offending, cookie recipe stealing, jet owning, Mother Teresa scamming trollop makeup c**t wife owns a bunch of mansions? I was a POW.
And who cares if I lie and cheat about crosses, Keating, campaign financing, “cone of silence”, Obama, lobbyists, and values? I was a POW.
McSame is still a POW, IMO.
He is a lousy Piece Of W. And we all know who and what W is.
As in, "Man, I can’t believe I just stepped in that pile of W.”
Or “Don’t feed me that W.”
Or, in the immortal words of Richard Brautigan (adjusted for topic), “There is some W I will not eat.”
Michael Moore's advice to Caroline Kennedy (head of Obama's VP search committee): 'Caroline: Pull a Cheney!'
My wife's been saying this since Caroline was named to Obama's search committee. I know a lot of women with respect for her who were openly pleased when they heard she'd be working in this capacity.
Steve Schmidt, McCain’s combative senior adviser, calls himself a “raging moderate.”
Supposedly, it bothers Schmidt to be called a protege of Karl Rove’s, and he is unequivocal about saying this is his last campaign:
“The Internet has created a wave of venom that is very disturbing. … People who run these campaigns have become targets very directly. Who needs it?”
It's really quite something to hear Schmidt, waging a nasty character assassination campaign against Obama, complaining about getting HIS feelings hurt.
If it's true that McCain is picking Romney then Obama HAS to take Biden because McCain and Romney are the richest politicians and Obama and Biden are poor and middle class since you need to make $5 million to be rich in McCain's world. They can just hammer them and turn this into a poor guys versus rich guys election to win on the economy issue.
If it's true that McCain is picking Romney then Obama HAS to take Biden because McCain and Romney are the richest politicians and Obama and Biden are poor and middle class since you need to make $5 million to be rich in McCain's world. They can just hammer them and turn this into a poor guys versus rich guys election to win on the economy issue.
biden will Knock romney's dick in the dirt.....in the debates
Thu, 08/21/2008 - 00:51 — Harry R. Sohl (not verified)
I was just thinking about how I miss the manly smells of Fred Thompson, the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke?
looks like it's mitt for mccain.....we all figured it would be.
personally i don't like romney.....he'll get all of the 80,000
mormon voters in las vegas
Thu, 08/21/2008 - 00:56 — Harry R. Sohl (not verified)
"Only child" Cindy McCain canceled her half-sister's credit card that Dad had paid, while the sister was in town for their Dad's funeral.
Cindy got $100,000,000. Sis got $10,000 (one ten-thousandth of Cindy). And Cindy decided to steal drugs from her charity rather than pay cash for them.
Do they really want to go there?
That doesn't even get into the other half-sister on her mother's side.
Dennis Kucinich has a petition and is looking for a few Patriots… http://www.kucinich.us/
He’s seeking to gain 1,000,000 signatures by September 10, 2008
"Only child" Cindy McCain canceled her half-sister's credit card that Dad had paid, while the sister was in town for their Dad's funeral.
Cindy got $100,000,000. Sis got $10,000 (one ten-thousandth of Cindy). And Cindy decided to steal drugs from her charity rather than pay cash for them.
Do they really want to go there?
That doesn't even get into the other half-sister on her mother's side.
It doesn't matter how many bonehead mistakes McCain makes. As long as he and his surrogates keep chanting "Obama will raise your taxes", the moron American sheeple voters will elect him in a landslide.
BTW, I think what's really amusing about the pullout is that, assuming it happens, we'll still be there for over half a year while we're threatening Putin.
the meclame letters have been fully debunked over at C&L
as a right-winged hoax...where's karl???
source cited...prison inmate hoax
"abc is reporting that both letters originated in Denver, and that at least one of them was a hoax sent by a prison inmate….. yeah, real smooth karl. get the convicted to do your dirty work. Oh that’s right, scooter’s still on the payroll, isn’t he?"
both letters are HOAXES, get it!? this is a rovian ploy, to distract from johns many house blunder. Watch the neocons self-destruct this weekend!
Thu, 08/21/2008 - 01:19 — Harry R. Sohl (not verified)
I am worried about John McCain. Isn't turning 72 and not being able to find your own home a sign of dementia? Or am I confused? Top Republican sources are privately expressing concern.
BTW, I think what's really amusing about the pullout is that, assuming it happens, we'll still be there for over half a year while we're threatening Putin.
A U.S. warship will on Friday head into the Black Sea -- an area where Russia is sensitive about the presence of NATO forces -- to deliver relief supplies to Georgia, the U.S. navy said
This should get interesting. I assume the "U.S. warship" will attempt to dock at Poti, currently occupied by Russian troops.
The rest of the world is discussing Russia, Georgia, Nato & Condi Rice....then there's this board discussing.....................I'm sure in their own alledged minds, all the truly important, impactful topics on current events and how the next leader of the free world will handle them.
@ 22, smike said: Or, in the immortal words of Richard Brautigan (adjusted for topic), “There is some W I will not eat.”
Those immortal words from Richard Brautigan were, i think, copied from a poem by ee cummings, i sing of Olaf glad and big...it's a great poem, which also includes the line "i will not kiss your fucking flag." Highly recommended...
One thing about the 'certificate of live birth' and Techdude's method of enhancing the image, he deliberately did it the opposite way to hide the stamp and the smudge shadow of the signature from the back.
Anybody following his way would go down the 'wrong road' and come to the wingnut conclusion, not that many people have either the proper tools, knowledge or inclination to be image experts, this was the hidden agenda of Techdude and his masters.
I'd like to thank peabrain Doughy Pantload for the clever pairing of nazicommie. They are a natural pairing, like fishfeathers or horseparrot. I think the author missed a bit though. When Barry gets elected we all learn French and the international signs of surrender!
Thu, 08/21/2008 - 06:34 — ☻Bangkok Bob ☻ (not verified)
Good Evening America. This is for all of you who have some relative somewhere who read the Corsi book and believe the lies in there.
For instance the Lie about Obama Not being born in the USA .. Point them here Born in the U.S.A.The truth about Obama's birth certificate. That is information from Factcheck.org , the official fact checking organization by the Annenberg Group.
That site is very useful, as a matter of fact if you don't go there to check out most of what is claimed in the negative or positive about ANY campaigner or elected official you will be listening to mostly lies.
Check out the site, it is updated on an hour by hour basis and has many surprising information.
Raygun (Reagan) and GHWB retread Peggy Noonhan is on the WSJ spreading Rovian love and the daily RNC talking points about Sen. Barrack Obama.
An attractive, intelligent man, interesting, but—he's hard to categorize.
(but the RNC and Rove are trying desperately to make him scary)
Is he Gen. Obama? No, no military background.
Sorry Barrack didn't spend five years in some bamboo love shack making home movies for the NVA, or shacked up at the Hanoi Hilton with some whores.
And Barrack didnt drop Napalm on women and children for the MIC either.
Brilliant Businessman Obama? No, he never worked in business.
So no history of Republican corruption, like McCain and S&L, Enron et al.
Famous Name Obama? No, it's a new name, an unusual one.
Scary non WASP name. (screams and runs for the hills)
Longtime Southern Governor Obama? No. He's a community organizer (what's that?)
OMFG so hes not one of the former slave owning families !
Then community sounds scary, almost Panther like or even average voter like...
then a lawyer (boo),
Actually a constitutional lawyer and professor.
then a state legislator (so what, so's my cousin)
This means people know, trust and vote for him, its not the usual rubber stamp election, and voter suppression (caging) by a Repug.
then U.S. senator (less than four years!)
Everybody has to start somewhere, and being newish and POTUS material and having got this far, means he is considered good by a lot of people.
So sorry Peggy, go back to your faded misty dreams of Reagan and the golden era,
"a kinder, gentler nation" S&L and BCCI 80s 90s style yes we remember.
“read my lips; no new taxes” just the usual Republican recession and economic meltdown.
And who could forget the classic "a thousand points of light" echoes of the rout and carnage at the Basra road, a typical Republican overkill and war crime.
Raygun (Reagan) and GHWB retread Peggy Noonhan is on the WSJ spreading Rovian love and the daily RNC talking points about Sen. Barrack Obama.
An attractive, intelligent man, interesting, but—he's hard to categorize.
(but the RNC and Rove are trying desperately to make him scary)
Is he Gen. Obama? No, no military background.
Sorry Barrack didn't spend five years in some bamboo love shack making home movies for the NVA, or shacked up at the Hanoi Hilton with some whores.
And Barrack didnt drop Napalm on women and children for the MIC either.
Brilliant Businessman Obama? No, he never worked in business.
So no history of Republican corruption, like McCain and S&L, Enron et al.
Famous Name Obama? No, it's a new name, an unusual one.
Scary non WASP name. (screams and runs for the hills)
Longtime Southern Governor Obama? No. He's a community organizer (what's that?)
OMFG so hes not one of the former slave owning families !
Then community sounds scary, almost Panther like or even average voter like...
then a lawyer (boo),
Actually a constitutional lawyer and professor.
then a state legislator (so what, so's my cousin)
This means people know, trust and vote for him, its not the usual rubber stamp election, and voter suppression (caging) by a Repug.
then U.S. senator (less than four years!)
Everybody has to start somewhere, and being newish and POTUS material and having got this far, means he is considered good by a lot of people.
So sorry Peggy, go back to your faded misty dreams of Reagan and the golden era,
"a kinder, gentler nation" S&L and BCCI 80s 90s style yes we remember.
“read my lips; no new taxes” just the usual Republican recession and economic meltdown.
And who could forget the classic "a thousand points of light" echoes of the rout and carnage at the Basra road, a typical Republican overkill and war crime.
Not to mention the fact that Ronald Reagan brought the Religious Right (oxymoronic phrase) into the Whitehouse.
Name one intelligent conversation you have had with a republican in the last 8 years. I can't think of one. All they have is what Rush, Sean or one of the other talking heads have brainwashed them with. Not one common sense answer to anything.
name one good Republican policy or something they actually did right.
and the normal running of the country without an economic meltdown or recession depression is considered proper, not a bonus...
Everything that surrounds the Republican party or anything they touch turns to sh1t,
Who cares if my felony drug offending, cookie recipe stealing, jet owning, Mother Teresa scamming trollop makeup c**t wife owns a bunch of mansions? I was a POW.
And who cares if I lie and cheat about crosses, Keating, campaign financing, “cone of silence”, Obama, lobbyists, and values? I was a POW.
McSame is still a POW, IMO.
He is a lousy Piece Of W. And we all know who and what W is.
As in, "Man, I can’t believe I just stepped in that pile of W.”
Or “Don’t feed me that W.”
Or, in the immortal words of Richard Brautigan (adjusted for topic), “There is some W I will not eat.”
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Horseshit.
"bomb, bomb, bomb iran"?
OBAMA / KAINE instead.
get it?
OH, BOMB McCAIN INSTEAD.
(sorry, bad joke.)
It doesn't matter how many bonehead mistakes McCain makes. As long as he and his surrogates keep chanting "Obama will raise your taxes", the moron American sheeple voters will elect him in a landslide.
McCain Hires Sherlock Holmes, to Figure Out His Number of Homes
Whatever.
McCain will win. As he should, as Obama is murdered by slow, masochistic dilution of "principle."
Maybe a music video will help.
Even Republicans now want church to be separated from state. Sudan's Prez is a Holocaust denier. The Supreme Court is now an accomplice in another schools shooting. Weird Twin Towers explosion "explanation".
Even candy bar prices are going up.
Guardian UK provides a tour of John & Cindy's homes (and assists in counting them):
At home with John and Cindy
Michael Moore's advice to Caroline Kennedy (head of Obama's VP search committee):
'Caroline: Pull a Cheney!'
In DieBold We Trust:
Company acknowledges voting machine error
slothrop @ 5:
slothrop @ 5:
Did you see the number of dipshits and their asinine comments on Alternet.
BeeSting @ 1:
My favorite inconsistenciesabout that day revolve around Flight 93 and the "Let's Roll!" legend--wreckage, telephone calls, the debris trail, the engine found eight miles away, shit like dat...Me, I'm almost 100 percent certain that plane was shot down, and covered up to protect against liability in wrongful death suits...
Why would you even post this as some right wing looney will post on other blogs as fact! Do not give them ammunition.
Sid @ 10:
Facts? They don't worry about facts. They are so stupid that messing with facts would blow the top of their heads off and reveal...a vacuum!
Imagine that. It takes a change in power for these assholes to do the right thing and leave the Iraqi people alone.
Name one intelligent conversation you have had with a republican in the last 8 years. I can't think of one. All they have is what Rush, Sean or one of the other talking heads have brainwashed them with. Not one common sense answer to anything.
numfar: Rice is trying to call it a victory.
More drowning polar bears. A woman goes to jail for an overdue book.
BeeSting @ 1:
Surely, NIST won't have a problem replicating that phenomenon in a controlled experiment, would they?
Monday, August 18, 2008
TWO FORMER GOP CONGRESSMEN TO U.S. COMBAT FORCES WORLDWIDE: MCCAIN UNFIT TO SERVE AS YOUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF
Ex-Reps. Warn Troops: As Senator He Abandoned American POWs Trapped in Indochina; as President He'll Abandon You
By
Bill Hendon & John LeBoutillier
Ed. note: This message from former U.S. Congressmen Bill Hendon (R-NC) and John LeBoutillier (R-NY) is being posted today on numerous military blogs and websites.
~~~~~~~~~~
He has told me several times over the years that the myth of live POWs was a cruel hoax on the families. He chaired hearings into the issue in the 1990s and found nothing. “The committee … pored over thousands of records and every claim of a sighting, no matter how outlandish,” says Salter. “It was all untrue.”
Link
[Your DU link needs to be tagged or it doesn't work-Sitemonitor]
DFL will offer 500.00 for a photo of coleman with the worst president in modern history at the(R) convention in st.paul
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/minnesota_dems_w...
I would have thought the whole Madrassa/Hussein/Muslim thing would have ranked in there somewhere.
This IS HuuUuuge!
McCain's Achilles heel is of course his Senate ethics commitee censure over being part of the Keating 5. So - how does this stack up with Rezko, Obama's AH?
March 8, 2005
Revisiting The Keating 5
In order to understand John McCain's present circumstances, it may be helpful to recall his entry into the Senate, tarnished with scandal over the savings and loan system collapse in the late 1980s. John McCain had been a recipient of over $100,000 in donations from Charles Keating, the owner of Lincoln Savings and Loan and American Continental Corporation. Keating used the S&L to float out bad bonds in ACC, resulting in a $2 billion loss and bailout from the FSLIC and the loss of millions of dollars to ordinary shareholders in ACC.
McCain ran interference for Keating, as the Arizona Republic's Bill Muller wrote:
In 1982, during McCain's first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election. In 1983, during McCain's second House race, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for McCain, though he had no serious competition and coasted into his second term. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000.
By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. ...
The first meeting, on April 2 in DeConcini's office, included Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, as well as four senators: DeConcini, McCain, Alan Cranston, D-Calif., and John Glenn, D-Ohio. ... The second meeting was on April 9. The same four senators attended, along with Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich. Also at the meeting were William Black, then deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., James Cirona, president of the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, and Michael Patriarca, director of agency functions at the FSLIC.
In a recent interview with The Republic, Black said the meeting was a show of force by Keating, who wanted the senators to pressure the regulators into dropping their case against Lincoln. The thrift was in trouble for violating ''direct investment'' rules, which prohibited S&Ls from taking large ownership positions in various ventures.
''The Senate is a really small club, like the cliche goes,'' Black said. ''And you really did have one-twentieth of the Senate in one room, called by one guy, who was the biggest crook in the S&L debacle.'' ... ''They presented themselves as a group,'' Black said, ''and DeConcini is the dad, who's going to take the primary speaking role. Both meetings are in his office, and in both cases it's 'we' want this, with no one going, 'What do you mean we, kemo sabe?' ''
And in both meetings, the message from one-twentieth of the Senate was clear: Keating needed to get special treatment. McCain would later argue that he was just looking out for his constituent, but the five Senators made it plain that they wanted the investigation to end immediately if Lincoln could not be charged with any violations at the time. John Glenn in particular made it plain that regulators needed to act or pack it up, and DeConcini insisted that their intervention on behalf of Lincoln was proper to protect an employer who had promised to clean up if left alone.
These meetings eventually became public as federal regulators, two years later and an untold millions of dollars lost to investors and the FSLIC, finally closed down Lincoln Savings and charged Charles Keating with fraud. The damage done to the five varied; Cranston never ran again for public office, while McCain managed to reinvent himself as a crusader -- but some forget that it wasn't just the campaign contributions that Keating made which tied him so closely to the "maverick" Arizona Senator:
On Oct. 8, 1989, The Republic revealed that McCain's wife and her father had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. The paper also reported that the McCains, sometimes accompanied by their daughter and baby-sitter, had made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard the American Continental jet. Three of trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay.
McCain also did not pay Keating for the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble over Lincoln. Total cost: $13,433.
And when the Arizona Republic made these connections public, McCain erupted in one of his characteristic outbursts that earned him the sobriquet Senator Hothead:
''You're a liar,''' McCain snapped Sept. 29 when a Republic reporter asked him about business ties between his wife and Keating. ''That's the spouse's involvement, you idiot,'' McCain said later in the same conversation. ''You do understand English, don't you?'' He also belittled the reporters when they asked about his wife's ties to Keating. ''It's up to you to find that out, kids.''
And then he played the POW card. ''Even the Vietnamese didn't question my ethics,'' McCain said.
Eventually, the Senate Ethics Committee wound up giving McCain and Glenn the least of the censures it handed down to the Keating 5, rebuking them for "poor judgment" while inflicting no punishment. The Keating collapse wound up costing taxpayers and investors a total of $3.4 billion, a number that could have been mitigated substantially had the five not interfered with the regulatory agency's investigation of Keating.
Now, what exactly has changed? McCain has intervened on behalf of a contributor -- an indirect contributor, to be sure, but one solicited by and benefitting his chief political advisor for a group that closely allies itself to McCain and his agenda and heavily promotes the Senator. Within weeks this intervention, the contributor cut a six-figure check solicited by Rick Davis. The only changes to the Keating scenarios are that McCain learned to put a buffer or two between the money and himself and that he acted alone to intervene with a regulatory agency on their behalf.
This activity is what McCain promised he'd correct, first when he apologized for his role in the S&L scandal, and later when he assaulted the First Amendment and limited political speech during election campaigns. In other words, nothing has changed except McCain's pomposity and hypocrisy.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that,in contrast to mccain, "senator obama offersmuch larger tax breaks to low-and middle-income and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers."
Obama plan:$37,595-66,354...see tax cuts of$1,042.00yr.
Mccain plan:$37,595-66,354...see tax cuts of $319.00
mccain's biggest cuts for peeps making more than $2.8mil.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/21/2-gop-sources-its-romney/
Willard will be McCain pick for VP. Seems like a great fit for him, they both love not showing up for work. When Willard was the governor of Mass he was out of the state 219 days in his final year. http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/12/25/repor...
If Willard is elected VP expect him to be out of the country bashing it to the rest of the world, because that is what he spent his final year as MA govenor doing - traveling all around the US increasing his brand image by bashing Massachusetts. Real noble work that Willard "Mitt" Romney did for MA.
So the McSame campaign has come down to this:
Who cares if my felony drug offending, cookie recipe stealing, jet owning, Mother Teresa scamming trollop makeup c**t wife owns a bunch of mansions? I was a POW.
And who cares if I lie and cheat about crosses, Keating, campaign financing, “cone of silence”, Obama, lobbyists, and values? I was a POW.
McSame is still a POW, IMO.
He is a lousy Piece Of W. And we all know who and what W is.
As in, "Man, I can’t believe I just stepped in that pile of W.”
Or “Don’t feed me that W.”
Or, in the immortal words of Richard Brautigan (adjusted for topic), “There is some W I will not eat.”
Hey, this is kind of fun…
What the hell's with the "Find it. Drill it. Unlock America's oil," ad at the top of this thread?
Michael Moore's advice to Caroline Kennedy (head of Obama's VP search committee):
'Caroline: Pull a Cheney!'
My wife's been saying this since Caroline was named to Obama's search committee. I know a lot of women with respect for her who were openly pleased when they heard she'd be working in this capacity.
envelope with white powder in it at mccains office?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/21/politics/main4372096.shtml
constituent @ 25:
Cindy dropped something?
/snark
The Buzz: The way we Reid this is Joe’s still got a home
It's really quite something to hear Schmidt, waging a nasty character assassination campaign against Obama, complaining about getting HIS feelings hurt.
Sounds to me like he said, "Bring It On!"
MountainMan23 @ 26:
did you mean snort
MountainMan23 @ 26:
Mccain makes gaff....staff sends baby powder to Mccain office & notifies the media...gaff go's away.
Thanks Karl.
If it's true that McCain is picking Romney then Obama HAS to take Biden because McCain and Romney are the richest politicians and Obama and Biden are poor and middle class since you need to make $5 million to be rich in McCain's world. They can just hammer them and turn this into a poor guys versus rich guys election to win on the economy issue.
MountainMan23 @ 26:
Now that's funny!
Mister Anderson @ 30:
biden will Knock romney's dick in the dirt.....in the debates
BeeSting @ 1:
Thermal expansion is a new phenomenon? Wow...
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poop, there I spelled it backwards.
bart @ 34:
lol
Conservatives don't want their kids to learn Spanish because they are TOO stupid to even learn proper English.
I'm thinking about starting anew group called Uppity Negro Men for McCain. Or would that be presumptuous?
bart @ 33:
Dude, you need to find a hobby!
Radically Moderate @ 38:
He's got a running hobby.
New Freeper tactic
It seems Obama has a half brother that he's met twice that lives in a hut of some sort in Kenya no one even knew where he was till a few weeks ago.
The reich wing is turning this into "Obama doesn't care about his brother who's homeless and starving in Africa!!! oh the humanity!"
I was just thinking about how I miss the manly smells of Fred Thompson, the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke?
someguy @ 40:
Will they compare that with Cindy's two half sisters that live in the U.S?
looks like it's mitt for mccain.....we all figured it would be.
personally i don't like romney.....he'll get all of the 80,000
mormon voters in las vegas
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/29/mitt-romney-mccains-vice_n_1156...
"Only child" Cindy McCain canceled her half-sister's credit card that Dad had paid, while the sister was in town for their Dad's funeral.
Cindy got $100,000,000. Sis got $10,000 (one ten-thousandth of Cindy). And Cindy decided to steal drugs from her charity rather than pay cash for them.
Do they really want to go there?
That doesn't even get into the other half-sister on her mother's side.
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Dennis Kucinich has a petition and is looking for a few Patriots…
http://www.kucinich.us/
He’s seeking to gain 1,000,000 signatures by September 10, 2008
SIGN IT!
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Isn't it sad that Condi Rice wants to cut and run in Iraq?
Harry R. Sohl @ 44:
"First Lady Cindy McCain" ..
.. oh please no ..
Harry R. Sohl @ 46:
.. talkin' timetables and withdrawal and such ..
tsk! tsk!
BeeSting @ 1:
Can the NIST repeat the results?
Or is it still just a "THEORY"?
Like the fake theories that Gremlins did it? Or a fireman's sneeze?
Two billionaires think our economy needs tending.
Rob @ 3:
And McCain was a POW.
BTW, I think what's really amusing about the pullout is that, assuming it happens, we'll still be there for over half a year while we're threatening Putin.
Tequila @ 50:
$53 trillion. Isn't that more than the entire worlds total GDP?
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Q U E S T I O N:
Now that we're addressing the TORTURE issue and Senator Johnny's McEnhanced interrogation...
When will America discuss the CIA's definition of TERRORISM and what we've done to Iraq?
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It's not TERRORISM when America does it... YES?
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I think we should sterilize anyone who's conservative and actually thinks this crap up or is an outlet for it.
constituent @ 25:
the meclame letters have been fully debunked over at C&L
as a right-winged hoax...where's karl???
source cited...prison inmate hoax
"abc is reporting that both letters originated in Denver, and that at least one of them was a hoax sent by a prison inmate….. yeah, real smooth karl. get the convicted to do your dirty work. Oh that’s right, scooter’s still on the payroll, isn’t he?"
both letters are HOAXES, get it!? this is a rovian ploy, to distract from johns many house blunder. Watch the neocons self-destruct this weekend!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/21/breaking-threatening-letters-co...
I am worried about John McCain. Isn't turning 72 and not being able to find your own home a sign of dementia? Or am I confused? Top Republican sources are privately expressing concern.
Black_Knight @ 56:
Very Mengele of you...
Tequila @ 52:
This should get interesting. I assume the "U.S. warship" will attempt to dock at Poti, currently occupied by Russian troops.
Ron @ 42:
I know about one of them but two?
someguy @ 62:
One on Dad's side, who inherited the princely sum of 10k when Cindy's ocean liner came in and one on mom's side.
BTW, I believe Daddy Hensley (married at the time) met Cindy's mommy while he was recuperating from war wounds? Seems to run in the family.
Here's the dirt
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Thermal collapse...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc
... Or a thermal lie?
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miss_kitty @ 63:
That's still just one person ron said Cindy had two sisters.
Sorry if I sound weird but the idea of Cindy having a second sister has got me excited.
someguy @ 65:
She hasn't come out to tell everyone how angry she is.
someguy @ 66:
I'd try to look for stuff on her, but I'm to tired to start something like that tonight.
McCain is the Manchurian Candidate.
Seems the Viet Cong brain washed McCain, but like some Asian laundry ended up shrinking the load.
More recently an ex Viet Cong pilot stated that McCain was not shot down, but had made one of his more successful landings.
Sung to the tune of Frere Jacque Frère Jacques It's in at least 57 different languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translations_of_Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_lyrics_to_Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques#We...
And now the newest version :
John Mc Anus John Mc Anus
is so famous is so famous
He came to save us He came to save us
Now he blames us Now he blames us
So much for those rebates. Parents can't even afford to send their kids to public school!
The rest of the world is discussing Russia, Georgia, Nato & Condi Rice....then there's this board discussing.....................I'm sure in their own alledged minds, all the truly important, impactful topics on current events and how the next leader of the free world will handle them.
@ 22, smike said: Or, in the immortal words of Richard Brautigan (adjusted for topic), “There is some W I will not eat.”
Those immortal words from Richard Brautigan were, i think, copied from a poem by ee cummings, i sing of Olaf glad and big...it's a great poem, which also includes the line "i will not kiss your fucking flag." Highly recommended...
One thing about the 'certificate of live birth' and Techdude's method of enhancing the image, he deliberately did it the opposite way to hide the stamp and the smudge shadow of the signature from the back.
Anybody following his way would go down the 'wrong road' and come to the wingnut conclusion, not that many people have either the proper tools, knowledge or inclination to be image experts, this was the hidden agenda of Techdude and his masters.
I'd like to thank peabrain Doughy Pantload for the clever pairing of nazicommie. They are a natural pairing, like fishfeathers or horseparrot. I think the author missed a bit though. When Barry gets elected we all learn French and the international signs of surrender!
Good Evening America. This is for all of you who have some relative somewhere who read the Corsi book and believe the lies in there.
For instance the Lie about Obama Not being born in the USA .. Point them here Born in the U.S.A.The truth about Obama's birth certificate. That is information from Factcheck.org , the official fact checking organization by the Annenberg Group.
That site is very useful, as a matter of fact if you don't go there to check out most of what is claimed in the negative or positive about ANY campaigner or elected official you will be listening to mostly lies.
Check out the site, it is updated on an hour by hour basis and has many surprising information.
Amici felici della lettura e cari Americani,
ciao
Raygun (Reagan) and GHWB retread Peggy Noonhan is on the WSJ spreading Rovian love and the daily RNC talking points about Sen. Barrack Obama.
(but the RNC and Rove are trying desperately to make him scary)
Sorry Barrack didn't spend five years in some bamboo love shack making home movies for the NVA, or shacked up at the Hanoi Hilton with some whores.
And Barrack didnt drop Napalm on women and children for the MIC either.
So no history of Republican corruption, like McCain and S&L, Enron et al.
Scary non WASP name. (screams and runs for the hills)
OMFG so hes not one of the former slave owning families !
Then community sounds scary, almost Panther like or even average voter like...
Actually a constitutional lawyer and professor.
This means people know, trust and vote for him, its not the usual rubber stamp election, and voter suppression (caging) by a Repug.
Everybody has to start somewhere, and being newish and POTUS material and having got this far, means he is considered good by a lot of people.
So sorry Peggy, go back to your faded misty dreams of Reagan and the golden era,
"a kinder, gentler nation" S&L and BCCI 80s 90s style yes we remember.
“read my lips; no new taxes” just the usual Republican recession and economic meltdown.
And who could forget the classic "a thousand points of light" echoes of the rout and carnage at the Basra road, a typical Republican overkill and war crime.
ferrofluid @ 76:
Not to mention the fact that Ronald Reagan brought the Religious Right (oxymoronic phrase) into the Whitehouse.
bullfrog @ 2:
I liked it!!!
☻Bangkok Bob ☻ @ 77:
actually I think they came in on the sole of his shoe, something he stepped in while walking his dogs.
chicano2nd @ 11:
The vacuum inside is all that keeps the tops of their heads from blowing away on windy days.
Ron @ 13:
name one good Republican policy or something they actually did right.
and the normal running of the country without an economic meltdown or recession depression is considered proper, not a bonus...
Everything that surrounds the Republican party or anything they touch turns to sh1t,
smike @ 22:
I liked it!!!
someguy @ 66:
Poor relations too, typical Repug put all his money into the McCain venture.
RobertD @ 23:
Good question.