" We know what its like to sit around the kitchen table after putting the kids to bed, thinking about what it is you need to make it--- The biggest worry John McCain has is deciding which kitchen table to sit at." - Sen. Joe Biden D-De
The Rovians are finally going to get what they have coming. Return fire. A what a salvo it will be.
Bush in his 2002 State of the Union promised to double the size of the Peace Corps, well in Bush's world doubling means going from 6,643 to 8,000 and now they face futher cuts. Just another failed Bush Co promise
Oh, he also promised in 2001 State of the Union to cut $2T from the national debt, instead he added $2T in his first term :)
"You can't change America by voting with George Bush 95% of the time."
Sen. Joe Biden
The only problem I have with Biden's speech today is that he wasted some great lines that would have been great to say in Denver Wednesday night. I guess he could restate them but they are so much better the first time.
In real economic terms, he and his c*!t don't spend money. They buy things that appreciate in value. They are not out a thing. We have to figure out what we have to cut out of our budgets to pay for something else. We know what its like to go into a supermarket and feel like that $30.00 barely covers the bottom of the bag.
And their mindless minions, like perhaps dennis, just do not get it.
"You can't change America by voting with George Bush 95% of the time."
Sen. Joe Biden
The only problem I have with Biden's speech today is that he wasted some great lines that would have been great to say in Denver Wednesday night. I guess he could restate them but they are so much better the first time.
Bush/Cheney/MCain and their record over the last 8 years can provide plenty of line for Denver and beyond. Biden needed to come out of the gate strong and fast, and that's what he did. There's more where that came from...
I live in Springfield, IL, and I just came back from seeing the Obama and Biden event.
Man, Biden just ripped into McCain. He was talking about families at dinner tables and went, "The only worry John McCain has is choosing which of the seven tables to sit at."
He also attacked McCain with the Senator's own words linking him to Bush. I knew right then that he is the right guy for us. He knows how to speak to the people and firmly badmouth his opponent.
I had to find the rest of that "skipping a vacation" quote:
There are 80 million family homes in America and those homeowners are now facing the reality that the bubble has burst and prices go down as well as up.
Of those 80 million homeowners, only 55 million have a mortgage at all, and 51 million are doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time. That leaves us with a puzzling situation: how could 4 million mortgages cause this much trouble for us all?
I live in Louisiana and the latest polls show that McCain is a 17 point favorite. I will certainly vote for Obama on election day but realize that my vote will not matter. But, that won't stop me from making every effort that I can to support Obama so for first time in my life I contributed to a presidential campaign. If everyone of Obama's supporters that reside in traditional republican states would do this then maybe it will make a difference in this critical presidential election.
I can only say to my sisters, the Hillary crowd, get on board, unless you want to see the GOP go down in flames, dragging the country with it.
McCain will be the ruin of the GOP, that's the good part. The bad part is that the nation will see hard times like we have never seen before, if he is elected.
Progressives, please, let's not have this fight now. Later...please...later.
"Does anybody remember the Keating Five debacle from 1987 that cost depositors and taxpayers $160 million? Charles Keating owned American Continental Corporation and its subsidiary Lincoln Savings & Loan. Facing multiple federal indictments, he called on the recipients of his largesse – Senators Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Don Riegle, and from the great State of Arizona Dennis DeConsini and John McCain. Strings were pulled, but, in the end, Keating was convicted. In 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee ruled that McCain hadn’t quite done anything illegal. But by his own standards he was corrupt."
Anybody watching CNN right now? This "Republican strategist" they have on now (and other times as well)...I think her name is Leslie Sanchez....she is a total shill for the Republicans. They present her as a sort of political analyst from the right side of the spectrum. But she clearly frames EVERYTHING she says in a deliberately partisan way. It's really lame.
Don't just donate money, donate your time. Get out and make your voice heard in Louisiana. Put a sign loud and proud on your lawn. Go door-to-door and register voters. Sure, you live in a Republican state, but I have no doubt that there are hundreds of thousands of people there who think the way that you do (and think that they are all alone). Band together and change this country!
McCain'w wealth is a different order of magnitude than Obama's. Obama is well off. McCain is stinkin' rich!! I think the DNC should just play this youtube video every Monday until the election. And play it at different times so those who are working two jobs have a better chance of seeing it. By the way, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates both endorse Obama.
We must be clear that the problem isn't that he's rich the problem is he's not going to give a shit that our economy is in a slump.
QFT.
His wealth is merely an explanation for his obliviousness. Obama's rich too, but he's trying to untilt the table.
+ Obama didn't divorce his wife to get rich the way McCain did.
By McCain standards, Obama is not rich. The McCain rich low water mark is 5 million and BHO is UNDER that. And it took his books to get him close less the payoff of the student loans for both he & his spouse.
Here's the article, and the "campaign member" is actually McCain's principle foreign policy adviser. I think Obama needs to pull his head out of his ass, and stop with neocon light policy. The Georgian/Russian conflict would have been an ideal way to differentiate himself from McCain. Instead, Obama, along with McCain advocates NATO membership for Georgia. Why would we want to obligate ourselves into fighting a multi-billion dollar war when our interests aren't affected? Instead, Obama should have advocated free elections in the break-away provinces so that the inhabitants could decide their future affiliation with Georgia. Then he could paint McCain as a war mongering neocon who wants never ending war regardless of U.S. security interests.
Joe Lieberman's slobbering over McCain? In a nutshell, it's because McCain's foreign policy adviser is Randy Scheunemann.
if they ever get around to making a movie about this election, they ought to get denzel washington to play obama, gene hackman to play biden, rick moranis (in "old" make-up) to play mccain & bruce campbell to play mittens romney.
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NoBuddy, I agree that Obama shouldn't have signed on to the "NATO for Georgia" line, but you can't paint it as simply neocon in origins. After all, when Russia was assured by H.W. Bush that we would not spread NATO any further east, and we'd work for a new European system, it was President Clinton who started NATO expansion, breaking our promise to Moscow. The United States has been squeezing Russia since the end of the Cold War, convinced that they haven't changed and we still need to keep them on a short leash.
This is a problem with all of Washington, similar to how we've historically dealt with Israel and Pakistan. We need an overhaul of our worldview in order to really change how we treat these issues.
NoBuddy, I agree that Obama shouldn't have signed on to the "NATO for Georgia" line, but you can't paint it as simply neocon in origins. After all, when Russia was assured by H.W. Bush that we would not spread NATO any further east, and we'd work for a new European system, it was President Clinton who started NATO expansion, breaking our promise to Moscow. The United States has been squeezing Russia since the end of the Cold War, convinced that they haven't changed and we still need to keep them on a short leash.
Last year the Russians made us an offer we should not have refused, but we did.
Now you see a bit of the results.
NoBuddy, I agree that Obama shouldn't have signed on to the "NATO for Georgia" line, but you can't paint it as simply neocon in origins. ... it was President Clinton who started NATO expansion, breaking our promise to Moscow. ...
... We need an overhaul of our worldview in order to really change how we treat these issues.
I'm not so sure with the Clinton's that we weren't getting a bit of neocon light policy as well. It was Clinton who changed the Iraqi policy to "regime change" and precluded the lifting of sanctions, regardless of compliance with WMD restrictions, so long as Saddam was in power. However, Clinton didn't bite when the neocons presented their letter for war with Iraq around 1997, so the strong economy and balanced budgets at the end of his presidency is his hallmark.
I think an overhaul of our worldview will be superseded by the financial aspects of playing the world's policeman. So long as we keep running these deficits up to pay for these humongous military budgets, the dollar will continue to devalue (over the long run) as it becomes increasingly obvious that the only way to pay back these deficits is to print money. In the end, we're simply going to run out of money to pay for war.
I just read Chris Durang's post on Huff-Po about the lying liar ads the Punk McNasty campaign is running non-stop in PA. I commented that the way to respond was with a simple, no-brainer comparison of what middle-class vs. wealthy people would pay under the respective proposed plans.
Then I tried to find a simple break-down as an example to cite on my own blog. Obama's site? Nothing but meaningless generalizations. I did find the relevant info here:
But that stuff is waaaay too complicated to make sense to anyone who is tired, distracted, or worrying about making the next mortgage payment. The AARP site is better at distinguishing the myriad of trees from the layout of the overall wood. But neither is good enough.
The totally deceitful PA ads are running non-stop with the assertion that Obama wants to tax middle-class families. In fact, his plan would help such families. But where's the Tax Plans for Dummies nutshell summary one can use to counter the ads in, say, letters to the editor?
(Let's not forget that for McSame anyone making less than $5,000,000 a year is middle-class or lower economically.)
constituent @ 19:
I think Obama needs to pull his head out of his ass, and stop with neocon light policy. The Georgian/Russian conflict would have been an ideal way to differentiate himself from McCain. Instead, Obama, along with McCain advocates NATO membership for Georgia.
He definitely needs to, yes.
But -- is he going to?
Nope.
The only place you're going to find those kind of smarts is in the third party candidates.
constituent @ 19:
I think Obama needs to pull his head out of his ass, and stop with neocon light policy. The Georgian/Russian conflict would have been an ideal way to differentiate himself from McCain. Instead, Obama, along with McCain advocates NATO membership for Georgia.
He definitely needs to, yes.
But -- is he going to?
Nope.
The only place you're going to find those kind of smarts is in the third party candidates.
Or, good old Ron Paul. Heh.
I think we had it in the Democratic party, with Dennis Kucinich. I listened to the Travis Smiley debate and AFL-CIO debate, and, not knowing a thing about Dennis, heard responses on issues from health care to "free" trade, to Iraq and he was on target with my positions on those issues. Ron Paul was right on Iraq, but he is at great variance with me on several issues, especially his advocacy that it is OK to discriminate on the basis of color, under a "freedom of association" rationale.
We may have a great deal of things wrong in this country, but where we lead the world, by leaps and bounds, is the advances we have made in assuring that people of different color, ethnic backgrounds and so forth are treated decently in this country. I want further steps forward, not any steps backwards. So, I have no use for Ron Paul.
However this time around, we'll be voting for the lesser of the two corporate owned evils. Corporate ownership of our politicians is the root cause of much of the problems in this country. Since increasing amounts of equity in these corporations are foreign owned, economic treason is one large problem. And, as Pat Buchanan pointed out, there are those who are hired by foreign countries to entangle the U.S. into fighting their wars, yet we don't dare call it treason. Not that this is news, since we have a sitting president who misrepresented a national security threat in order to entangle this country into a nation building endeavor in Iraq, yet this isn't called treason, and he isn't impeached and thrown to the curb, along with his vice president.
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" We know what its like to sit around the kitchen table after putting the kids to bed, thinking about what it is you need to make it--- The biggest worry John McCain has is deciding which kitchen table to sit at." - Sen. Joe Biden D-De
The Rovians are finally going to get what they have coming. Return fire. A what a salvo it will be.
We must be clear that the problem isn't that he's rich the problem is he's not going to give a shit that our economy is in a slump.
Nice work indeed. Hadn't seen that one before. Who put it together? Anyone know?
Peace Corps paring ranks:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/08/23/peace_corps_to_par...
Bush in his 2002 State of the Union promised to double the size of the Peace Corps, well in Bush's world doubling means going from 6,643 to 8,000 and now they face futher cuts. Just another failed Bush Co promise
Oh, he also promised in 2001 State of the Union to cut $2T from the national debt, instead he added $2T in his first term :)
someguy @ 2:
QFT.
His wealth is merely an explanation for his obliviousness. Obama's rich too, but he's trying to untilt the table.
"You can't change America by voting with George Bush 95% of the time."
Sen. Joe Biden
The only problem I have with Biden's speech today is that he wasted some great lines that would have been great to say in Denver Wednesday night. I guess he could restate them but they are so much better the first time.
In real economic terms, he and his c*!t don't spend money. They buy things that appreciate in value. They are not out a thing. We have to figure out what we have to cut out of our budgets to pay for something else. We know what its like to go into a supermarket and feel like that $30.00 barely covers the bottom of the bag.
And their mindless minions, like perhaps dennis, just do not get it.
LunaStick @ 6:
Bush/Cheney/MCain and their record over the last 8 years can provide plenty of line for Denver and beyond. Biden needed to come out of the gate strong and fast, and that's what he did. There's more where that came from...
BIDEN FUCKING ROCKS!!!!!
"John McCain would first have to figure out which of the seven kitchen tables he'll use."
What did it take, like 10 minutes to deliver his first zinger? That's how you rally a crowd, Barack.
I bet all those supporters thought Joe was some old geezer who'd deliver a sleep-inducing speech. Damn kids!
I live in Springfield, IL, and I just came back from seeing the Obama and Biden event.
Man, Biden just ripped into McCain. He was talking about families at dinner tables and went, "The only worry John McCain has is choosing which of the seven tables to sit at."
He also attacked McCain with the Senator's own words linking him to Bush. I knew right then that he is the right guy for us. He knows how to speak to the people and firmly badmouth his opponent.
I had to find the rest of that "skipping a vacation" quote:
The text of the speech is on McCain's website.
I live in Louisiana and the latest polls show that McCain is a 17 point favorite. I will certainly vote for Obama on election day but realize that my vote will not matter. But, that won't stop me from making every effort that I can to support Obama so for first time in my life I contributed to a presidential campaign. If everyone of Obama's supporters that reside in traditional republican states would do this then maybe it will make a difference in this critical presidential election.
Hi-fuckin'-larious!
Wise choice, Mr. Obama, for the times.
I can only say to my sisters, the Hillary crowd, get on board, unless you want to see the GOP go down in flames, dragging the country with it.
McCain will be the ruin of the GOP, that's the good part. The bad part is that the nation will see hard times like we have never seen before, if he is elected.
Progressives, please, let's not have this fight now. Later...please...later.
100 yrs. in iraq just a few months ago....mccain don't act like you are responsible for this withdrawal...time horizon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
cg @ 5:
+ Obama didn't divorce his wife to get rich the way McCain did.
Lifestyles of the Bitch and Famous.
"Does anybody remember the Keating Five debacle from 1987 that cost depositors and taxpayers $160 million? Charles Keating owned American Continental Corporation and its subsidiary Lincoln Savings & Loan. Facing multiple federal indictments, he called on the recipients of his largesse – Senators Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Don Riegle, and from the great State of Arizona Dennis DeConsini and John McCain. Strings were pulled, but, in the end, Keating was convicted. In 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee ruled that McCain hadn’t quite done anything illegal. But by his own standards he was corrupt."
more from Roland C. Eyears here:
http://www.wclt.com//news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261
Anybody watching CNN right now? This "Republican strategist" they have on now (and other times as well)...I think her name is Leslie Sanchez....she is a total shill for the Republicans. They present her as a sort of political analyst from the right side of the spectrum. But she clearly frames EVERYTHING she says in a deliberately partisan way. It's really lame.
pat buchanan calls mccain's campaign member(lobbyist)
a warmonger and accuses him of treason. interesting for
obama to look at.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Buchanan_accuses_McCains_neocon_warmonger_...
the facts......rezko reality a very weak spin
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/rezko_reality.html
Samsuncle,
Don't just donate money, donate your time. Get out and make your voice heard in Louisiana. Put a sign loud and proud on your lawn. Go door-to-door and register voters. Sure, you live in a Republican state, but I have no doubt that there are hundreds of thousands of people there who think the way that you do (and think that they are all alone). Band together and change this country!
Obama/Biden '08
McCain'w wealth is a different order of magnitude than Obama's. Obama is well off. McCain is stinkin' rich!! I think the DNC should just play this youtube video every Monday until the election. And play it at different times so those who are working two jobs have a better chance of seeing it. By the way, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates both endorse Obama.
"High Class indeed"
Trailer trash with money. That's all.
someguy @ 15:
By McCain standards, Obama is not rich. The McCain rich low water mark is 5 million and BHO is UNDER that. And it took his books to get him close less the payoff of the student loans for both he & his spouse.
constituent @ 19:
Here's the article, and the "campaign member" is actually McCain's principle foreign policy adviser. I think Obama needs to pull his head out of his ass, and stop with neocon light policy. The Georgian/Russian conflict would have been an ideal way to differentiate himself from McCain. Instead, Obama, along with McCain advocates NATO membership for Georgia. Why would we want to obligate ourselves into fighting a multi-billion dollar war when our interests aren't affected? Instead, Obama should have advocated free elections in the break-away provinces so that the inhabitants could decide their future affiliation with Georgia. Then he could paint McCain as a war mongering neocon who wants never ending war regardless of U.S. security interests.
Joe Lieberman's slobbering over McCain? In a nutshell, it's because McCain's foreign policy adviser is Randy Scheunemann.
That's a good ad. I wouldn't mind seeing that one spread around.
if they ever get around to making a movie about this election, they ought to get denzel washington to play obama, gene hackman to play biden, rick moranis (in "old" make-up) to play mccain & bruce campbell to play mittens romney.
Denzel is too old to play Obama now.
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NoBuddy, I agree that Obama shouldn't have signed on to the "NATO for Georgia" line, but you can't paint it as simply neocon in origins. After all, when Russia was assured by H.W. Bush that we would not spread NATO any further east, and we'd work for a new European system, it was President Clinton who started NATO expansion, breaking our promise to Moscow. The United States has been squeezing Russia since the end of the Cold War, convinced that they haven't changed and we still need to keep them on a short leash.
History of Russia/Georgia conflict
This is a problem with all of Washington, similar to how we've historically dealt with Israel and Pakistan. We need an overhaul of our worldview in order to really change how we treat these issues.
The guy with the British accent asking, "How will he
[McCain] solve our problems was a nice touch.
Phil @ 31:
Last year the Russians made us an offer we should not have refused, but we did.
Now you see a bit of the results.
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070609/66990313.html
Phil @ 31:
I'm not so sure with the Clinton's that we weren't getting a bit of neocon light policy as well. It was Clinton who changed the Iraqi policy to "regime change" and precluded the lifting of sanctions, regardless of compliance with WMD restrictions, so long as Saddam was in power. However, Clinton didn't bite when the neocons presented their letter for war with Iraq around 1997, so the strong economy and balanced budgets at the end of his presidency is his hallmark.
I think an overhaul of our worldview will be superseded by the financial aspects of playing the world's policeman. So long as we keep running these deficits up to pay for these humongous military budgets, the dollar will continue to devalue (over the long run) as it becomes increasingly obvious that the only way to pay back these deficits is to print money. In the end, we're simply going to run out of money to pay for war.
"McCain made money the old fashion way. He married it"
Cindy made it the other old fashion way. She inherited it.
Tax issue.
I just read Chris Durang's post on Huff-Po about the lying liar ads the Punk McNasty campaign is running non-stop in PA. I commented that the way to respond was with a simple, no-brainer comparison of what middle-class vs. wealthy people would pay under the respective proposed plans.
Then I tried to find a simple break-down as an example to cite on my own blog. Obama's site? Nothing but meaningless generalizations. I did find the relevant info here:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/election_issues_matrix.cfm
But that stuff is waaaay too complicated to make sense to anyone who is tired, distracted, or worrying about making the next mortgage payment. The AARP site is better at distinguishing the myriad of trees from the layout of the overall wood. But neither is good enough.
The totally deceitful PA ads are running non-stop with the assertion that Obama wants to tax middle-class families. In fact, his plan would help such families. But where's the Tax Plans for Dummies nutshell summary one can use to counter the ads in, say, letters to the editor?
(Let's not forget that for McSame anyone making less than $5,000,000 a year is middle-class or lower economically.)
Democrats need to learn that THEY NEED TO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LINES.
People are dense. Repeat:
Democrats need to learn that THEY NEED TO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LINES.
To say it another way:
KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LINES!!!!!!
In other words, KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LINES!!!!!
Oh yea, why does the guy in that add have an Australian accent?
Someone from Georgia should do that add again.
NoBuddy @ 26:
He definitely needs to, yes.
But -- is he going to?
Nope.
The only place you're going to find those kind of smarts is in the third party candidates.
Or, good old Ron Paul. Heh.
Billy @ 38:
I think we had it in the Democratic party, with Dennis Kucinich. I listened to the Travis Smiley debate and AFL-CIO debate, and, not knowing a thing about Dennis, heard responses on issues from health care to "free" trade, to Iraq and he was on target with my positions on those issues. Ron Paul was right on Iraq, but he is at great variance with me on several issues, especially his advocacy that it is OK to discriminate on the basis of color, under a "freedom of association" rationale.
We may have a great deal of things wrong in this country, but where we lead the world, by leaps and bounds, is the advances we have made in assuring that people of different color, ethnic backgrounds and so forth are treated decently in this country. I want further steps forward, not any steps backwards. So, I have no use for Ron Paul.
However this time around, we'll be voting for the lesser of the two corporate owned evils. Corporate ownership of our politicians is the root cause of much of the problems in this country. Since increasing amounts of equity in these corporations are foreign owned, economic treason is one large problem. And, as Pat Buchanan pointed out, there are those who are hired by foreign countries to entangle the U.S. into fighting their wars, yet we don't dare call it treason. Not that this is news, since we have a sitting president who misrepresented a national security threat in order to entangle this country into a nation building endeavor in Iraq, yet this isn't called treason, and he isn't impeached and thrown to the curb, along with his vice president.
Priceless!
AND THE POINT IS...
WHAT?
Americans love them some celebrity.
If they can't have it all, they worship and envy the guy who does.
This video shows things that are NOT negatives for McCain.
Americans DO NOT have any grasp on the relationship of government policy to their own economic interests.
So, ladies, that means...
HE WILL WIN...
NoBuddy @ 40:
Yea. I didn't like him as much, until he spent a couple hours trying to impeach Bush.
That alone put him way ahead of Obama for me...
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