Pat Buchanan gushes over Obama speech, hell freezes over
By SilentPatriot Thursday Aug 28, 2008 5:40pm
Q: How do you know Obama's speech was well-received?
A: Pat Buchanan can't shut up about how much he loved it.
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BUCHANAN: "I stand with Obama! It was a genuinely outstanding speech, it was magnificent. I saw Cuomo's speech, I saw Kennedy in '80, I even saw Douglas MacArthur, I saw MLK; this is the greatest convention speech and probably the most important because unlike Cuomo and the others, this was an acceptance speech, this came out of the heart of America, and he went right at the heart of America. This wasn't a liberal speech at all. This is a deeply, deeply centrist speech. It had wit, it had humor, and when he used the needle on McCain, he stuck it into McCain and it was funny. It was Kennedy's speech in '80. I laughed with Kennedy when he was needling Ronald Reagan."
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Holy crap . . . I feel . . .hope for the fate of mankind . .. again.
Shorter Buchanan: "Once you go black..."
*faints*
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I have always kinda liked Buchanan..I know I know I know he is a social darwinist and a serious asshole, but there is something
about him I have always kinda respected. Just to sit at the table with him, a bottle of Bushmills and throw the bull around
would be great. He is the only politician in 30 years to mention the trade deficit, and the only pre 911 politician to talk about
closing our borders.
Maddow's been a good influence on him...
Watch the others. They all have WTF looks.
[runs outside to check if the sky is still blue]
Congrats, Pat!
You don't work for the FuxYous Channel so you were allowed to compliment a non-conservative.
Maybe Pat can feel the change in the winds. His party is becoming the way of the Whigs.
Shows how great of a speech it really was. He honestly - and fairly - captured the hearts of all Americans in the speech last night. Brilliant. This shows truly what kind of unifying leader Barack Obama will be.
So what. It's like saying that Hitler liked dogs.
In the words of U2:
It's a Beatiful Day!
Welcome aboard Republicans.
Democrats don't attack the Obamacans.
Pat's always been his own man. BUT...his 1% moment of truth doesn't in anyway exculpate his 99% of assinine bullshit.
If he didn't have such a WHINEY damn voice.
I'm going back to bed folks, this is depressing.
Vedilo oggi tutto più successivamente.
ciao
Leadership @ 5:
roooth @ 6:
I like the fact that, at least lately (I don't know about his entire career), even at his most obnoxious, he is still having a conversation with Rachel and the rest, not just screaming and interrupting like pundits on a certain other cable news channel. That, and some frickin' truth and honesty, is all I ask!
Leadership Says:
I have always kinda liked Buchanan..I know I know I know he is a social darwinist and a serious asshole, but there is something about him I have always kinda respected. Just to sit at the table with him, a bottle of Bushmills and throw the bull around would be great. He is the only politician in 30 years to mention the trade deficit, and the only pre 911 politician to talk about closing our borders.
FYI - typing "I am an asshole too" is more efficient.
Why does pat Buchanan hate himself?
"Uppity" Bonkers @ 15:
Well, that and some frickin' sharks with laser-beams on their heads!!
Bill Kristol gave the speech thumbs up, too. I was flabbergasted. Especially after Juan (Oh, Juan. Why so bitter?) flamed it. Watching Bill's eyes while he spoke of Obama's speech, it looked to me like he was having an internal conflict of epic proportions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1UfVElkumI
thats all well and good but i still dont care what he says, even if i would agree with his statement.
"And this just in....Rush Limbaugh assumed into heaven".
It wasn't just a great speech - it was an amazing convention.
The Democrats seized the very "values" to which Republicans have long given lip service.
"Faith" is now Faith in America.
Faith in the American Dream.
Faith in Each Other.
And Family.
Obama's Mom and GrandParents.
Biden's Family.
Just like us .. part of the American Family.
its the future, people know theres change coming :)
When someone so indelably linked to one party gushes over the speach of someone from the other, and then goes out of his way to reread parts of it in his praise then you KNOW that you have done the job.
Republicans must be shitting McCain sized condominiums at the moment at the thought that McCain has to go out and follow not only that speach, but those of Gore, Kucinich, Biden, Kerry and both Clintons. I wasn't going to watch the repugs convention but l'll watch the repeats on BBC Parliament just for the fun of watching them struggle to match this week.
This is the REPUBLICAN Party we're discussing here. What would an intelligent women be doing in this crowd?
"She's been tabbed, She's a hottie (beauty pageant style), and she can cook. Get back in that kitchen."
Hillary Clinton is quietly disappointed in John Bush.
Buchanan's one of those guys who Obama's nomination is a 'get-out-of-jail-free" card.
He's been a jolly, unregenerate racist ever since he helped Spiro Agnew craft the "southern Strategy."
Obama's nomination, to him, means he--Buchanan-- no longer has to be ashamed of his racism, because the nomination relieves the whole country of the stigma of structural racism: A truly "racist" culture, the argument Pat and his ilk are relieved by goes, would not--could not--nominate a despised minority to be the presidential candidate of one of the two major parties. Therefore Murka is not a structurally racist nation, and thereby I am relieved of any and all of those pesky allegations about me.
There were sighs and exudations like Buchanan's all over red-neck Murka last night.
This morning may have been the first morning in 40 years that Pukin' Pat hasn't blinked in the eyes of the face in the mirror...
He's off his meds already, predicting on Gregory that Gustav could be a benefit to the Rebublicans.
♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 14:
That's easy for you to say....g'night, BB.
What the heck has happened to Buchanan lately.. I even read a few of his screeds in the rant pages of my daily a few months ago.. and holy cheeze-whiz... some, not all, but some of it actually made some sense... That kind of shit makes me uneasy when someone like Pat Buchanan can somehow make any amount of sense on anything... Go figure...
I guess its never too late to wake up and smell the coffee but is this a ligitimate change of heart on his part or just some crass finger in the air checkin the wind direction opportunism... dunno..
I think, after watching this guy since the early 90's shill for the right and republics, I'm a just gonna have to reserve my personal final judgement on all this reformed Buchanan rah rah cheerleading Obama for the moment... till I see where it's all going... Pat? Can't help it.. I'm just a little bit suspicious of you dude. Yer track record? It ain't so hot guy.....JD
Kathy in St. louis @ 21:
Rush went back to the Caribbean?
Job secutity but he may be right.
Obama up by 8 Gallup.
*watches video*...
woah...this is the other dimension's Buchanan isn't it?
It's a trap! Run for your lives!
quietly waiting for the other shoe to drop.
What does it say when Pat Buchanan is actually tolerable to listen to campared to the other blow-hard pundits from the Right!
Pat Buchanan is a dyed-in-the-wool old school conservative Republican. But he has a genuine, lovable, irascible quality about him that endears him to folks across the political spectrum. Nobody can survive in the mass media for as many decades as Pat if he did not have definitive endearing qualities. Despite their contentious disagreements on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow said she really likes Pat. That is a good enough endorsement for me.
Amalink @ 1:
Holy crap indeed. I would never have believed it if I hadn't heard it.
mjULTRA @ 4:
LOL!!
I like what he said about Palin. Is she ready to be president of the US?
Lord, can you imagine her in a debate with Biden?
What the hell can she possibly offer????
sassafra @ 32:
Well, I will say this. If you go to his last MANY OpEd pieces, this is one conservative that for the most part I do not agree with, but he's not been very kind to Bush.
And for good reason.
hell freezes over
Yep! And Satan is furious, furious, furious with Buchanan.
Wow! Just WOW!!!
Harry R. Sohl @ 16:
Fuck you!
I will say this, even Buchanan at his worst on MSNBC is still better than CNN. Happened to be flipping through last night and saw Ben Stein on Larry King. I stopped to listen to what that blather head had to say, when they had not 1 or 2 Repug mensch on, but 4 all criticizing the Obama acceptance speech without one voice in contrast. I guess this proves once and for all that CNN is off the deep end, even worse than Faux Noise. At least Faux pretends to have a Democratic persona on.
Oh God...
You USians are pitiful!
Get OVER yourselves!
You aren't that important anymore!
> What the heck has happened to Buchanan lately.. I even read a few of his screeds in the rant pages of my
> daily a few months ago.. and holy cheeze-whiz… some, not all, but some of it actually made some sense
Because Buchanan is a genuine conservative. Often a troglodyte, yes, but not a party hack.
I've known him to be thick, I've known him to be deliberately clueless, I've known him to be insensitive, homophobic, racist, pinheaded, intolerant and annoying but one thing he's never been is disingenuous. He stands for what he believes in, sick as much of it is, and I do respect that.
He's not Bill Kristol.
Maddow looks like she's got beer goggles on for Buchanan.
Canuknotusa @ 44:
Wow The Great White North Incoherent takes a major hit off his beer bong and spews nonsense. How cool is that?
Wasn't Buchannon Nixon's speech writer? (Or am I thinking of Ben "Franken" Stein?) It struck me that he was effusive about the sheer technique of Obama's speechifyin', coming at it from a writer wonk point of view.
Sometimes I get mixed up between Pat Robertson and Pat Robertson..I mean Pat Buchanan. But I think Buchanan would win in a knife fight with Robertson.
Leadership @ 42:
LOL
I haven't seen a good, plain "eff U!" on these boards in awhile.
(not laughing at you, Leadership, per se, just the humanity of it all)
Someone, anyone, give Pat and ice tea!
Now Peggy Noonan...she was on MSNBC this morning. I can't stand that heinous horror hag.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 47:
If Canada invades, then maybe he can talk some smack!
(I kid)
JasonS @ 45:
You save me a lot of typing.
thanks.
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 47:
How cool? - At least as cool as naming Sarah Palin as a VP candidate.
Again - the US doesn't matter as much as it did 9 years ago - thanks to the decisions made by USians at the polls. Twice.
I like Pat Buchanan. Of course I don't agree with him all the time but he's at least a thoughtful, intelligent man. I think we'll see more desertions soon. Even Rupert Murdoch was fawning over Obama a few months ago. The McCain campaign is a complete joke, from top to bottom. It's almost as if Dan Quayle were advising the McCain campaign.
Pats basically a traditional conservative and he's 100% opposed to Imperialism. He does not like neocons and their policy, and has not hesitated to say it in his written pieces. He is deeply concerned about the future of our country. I've read his stuff this past 8 years and he's skewered Bush/Cheney and Co. righteously more times then most people may realize.
It's the end of Civilization as we know it -- it's the Rapture, I'm coming 'Lizabeth.
No...wait...I'm Jewish. I'm screwed.
Mike V. @ 38:
Back to her place for Mooseburgers afterwards?
Canuknotusa @ 44:
i grew up a green mountain gal in vermont . used to walk across the border all the time and adore canada. you better hope we pull out of this gop nosedive dear because if we don't i'm afraid you're going to be next and sooner than you think.
Like many here, I disagree with Buchanan on almost everything, but with just a few exceptions, he is at least civil when debating with others. He is also willing to give criticism to conservatives and props (like this one) to his opposition which is a rare commodity in this age. I was curious to hear what my local conservative station thought about Obama's speech last night while driving to work this morning. I live in the DC area and the radio station is WMAL. One of the announcers is former congressman, Fred Grandy (the dude who played Gopher on the TV show Loveboat) and the other is a real hack, Andy Parks. There was little or no discussion on Obama's speech. The main topic was McCain's congratulating response to Obama's nomination from the Democratic Party. Had Obama flopped, I am sure they would have killed him during their entire show. The fact that they avoided it speaks volumes. As they say, the silence was deafening.
Personal photos begin to leak out.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1903451448_635a36aed2_o.jpg
S/F/O!!
Canuknotusa @ 55:
I'm assuming it must be the BC bud that makes you feel the necessity to tell us things we're already painfully aware of. How about you take another really big hit and go out for munchies. We'll still be here when you get back but by then maybe you'll feel like taking a nap. Meanwhile we'll be doing everything we can to get our country back and hey, thanks for the good energy and encouragement.
Pat is a crusty old fart, but at least he can acknowledge when the Dems do something positive...or when the GOP screws up.
That's all I ask. Be liberal or conservative....but just admit when the other side has done something well.
sassafra @ 60:
Precisely why I do not like the USA!
By the way, if you try something like that, you just might have a few more countries than Canada lining up against you.
... just a comment...
I think as a speechwriter, Pat Buchanan knows the good stuff when he hears/reads it. Alot of this came off to me as professional admiration from one speechwriter to another. He was impressed with the speech maybe not on an idealogical level but probably on a talking shop level. As a political wonk, I can disagree all day about the direction McCain's campaign has taken but I have admiration at their strategy as of the beginning of August. It's ugly but it works.
Chuck @ 62:
And I couldn't understand why the old fart chose her as a running mate. That pretty much clears that up.
orcas @ 36:
Me too. Buchanan has always come off as sincere in his opinions. However misguided those opinions appear to be on an occasion or two or three or a bunch of times.
you really misunderstand me.
what i *mean* is if our economy continues to go south yours will continue to be dragged along with it. we're that tightly bound.
my that's some nasty bit o' hate you have worked up.
Sooo, whaa??? I'm to take it that one of Nixons flunkys is actually a Goldwater type conservative republican??? Cause that's what your 'traditional conservatives' or what's left of them are.. followers of Goldwaters philosophy... Is that the deal??.... Uh huh... Ya know what?... I just don't know about that... I don't think you made the sale.. but nice try. Pats got a lotta makin up to do far as I'm concerned. He's been shillin for the wrong side a long fucking time now. I just ain't ready to go all gaa gaa over Pat just because he says he liked Obama's speech.......JD
Chuck @ 62:
How can I say no to that?! That's it I'm changing my vote.. NOT
hate to tell you this folks, but i've seen Buchanon creeping more and more to the center and possibly leaning to the left. My feeling is that it's nothing to get too excited about, i attribute it only to his network job which requires neutrality or so it would seem.
sassafra @ 68:
Our economy's doing just fine thank you.
No 'hate' here' - just a resistance to your overwhelming narcissism.
Canuknotusa @ 65:
Wow, I didn't know the BC bud made you so paranoid. Allow me to intercede. I believe our sister from the great state of Vermont is suggesting that your political house is in a state of pre-fascism itself and that if we fall to the forces of the dark side you will most likely be on Darth Cheney's short list. We won't need to do something silly like invade you or any other country, you'll simply be another landmass/resource base assimilated by our corporate overlords. Now you get busy on that bong and stop worrying your beautiful little mind about such things. After all, we're the only country facing a corporate takeover, I mean its not like Canada has a bunch of untapped resources that anybody would want to exploit on the cheap.
cv @ 59:
Be careful. That's how Chimpy "wins" in debates. The bar is so incredibly low, that as long as he doesn't pick his nose or drool, he comes out on top.
Believe me, she'll probably do well. She's attractive and not a total moron. As long as she stays relatively close to Biden, people will give her the benefit of the doubt.
idleuser @ 70:
Chuck, if that's not photoshopped I believe the mystery of why McSame would chose her as a running mate has been solved.
Chuck @ 62:
Too bad it isn't real. Not even a good PS job.
thought i heard pat say we ought to elect the guy who actually wrote the speach!
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 73:
... typical USian asshole!
Get over yourself - you're not as important as you use to be, buddy.
Canuknotusa @ 72:
*laughs* if you say so....enjoy your new corporate overlords...
Canuknotusa @ 77:
Wow, paranoid and abusive. You better check out your connection dude, I think maybe somebody's slipped something nasty into your stash. Chill out hoser eh, drink a couple of Molsons and take a nap, you'll feel better when you wake up.
Buchanan is, for the most part, an honest conservative. I love listening to what he has to say because it's what I wish the republican party would stand for. I disagree with most of it, but if we had a good, honest, intellectual debate about the issues this country would have no problems.
The Truth Hurts @ 74:
But what could she possibly know about foreign policy? And she's already said she doesn't know what the Vice President does. Think Biden might bring that up?
I think it's important to note though, he's comparing it to other Democratic convention speeches that all lost. Especially of note is the "Kennedy needling Reagan" bit. There's definitely some subtext there...
Texas Democrat @ 75:
It's real all right.
Perhaps I'm just in a bad mood, and feel like raining on a parade, but........I could never stand Buchanan, and this doesn't elevate him in my mind. In fact, it makes me really angry, and contrary to some in this thread, weakens my hope for the fate of humanity.
Listen to the part of Obama's speech he quoted. The part about all fighting under the same proud flag. Sure, it has to be said, because the Republicans have made all of their gains by trumpeting that they are the true patriots, and liberals are evil America haters. But it's not a very profound things to say. If it weren't for the disgusting manner in which Republicans have played the elections game for about a generation now, it would be taken as a given that we differ on policy, but hold the same basic patriotic principles dear.
And that's what gets me. Pat Fucking Buchanan found that TRULY, GENUINELY inspirational. He's surprised a Democrat is saying it -- calling the speech "centrist" no less, differentiating it no doubt from the aforementioned America hating liberals -- he's probably surprised to hear a black person saying it (and even more surprised a black person is speaking coherent English), and THINKS IT'S PROFOUND! It isn't, damn it!
Buchanan and his ilk are the kind of unthinking, unevolved cave men who really, really do want their candidates to wrap themselves in the flag and spout platitudes because they think it actually means something. And there are too many of these people!
Sorry, but Buchanan's reaction doesn't give me hope. It proves to me that there's never likely to be a candidate of substance who can simply put forward some really great ideas and work to implement them. America doesn't want that.
Canuknotusa @ 55:
I would almost have agreed with you, Canuck. America is full of loud-mouthed, self-important, provincial people.
But neither as a nationwide populace nor as a collection of sovereign states did we elect George Bush.
Jesues I hate to get involved in these little flame wars usually but for cryin out loud canuknotusa? Whoa, why don't you try chillin just a bit there dude... Maybe you ain't payin attention but we're on your side here...At least we're on the same side as the sane Canadians and I'm going out on a limb and assuming you're one of those for the moment..sheeesh.. Besides, you say we're not 'all that important anymore'.. Fine, as one American to one Canadian, that actually works for me.. I'm here to tell ya, I don't give a damn to see my country 'all that important' anymore.... Personally I subscribe to the 'we're all init together' theory. As in the whole damned species are gonna sink or swim by getting along and not killing each other over bullshit!!.. That would be we USAians, you Canadicans, and all the rest.... So as far as I'm concerned, as long as shit is working, I don't give a damn who gets the big chair.... And if there's any justice in this world and any luck at all left to count on... This time next year? My nation will be cleaning up its act, and the motherfuckers who created this shitstorm will be in the Hague... I don't know if that will happen, that's what I'd like to see, and while it's speculation if Obama gets in.. It's at least a reasonable speculation... If the repubs steal another one then for sure none of what I just said is in the least bit possible... So to conclude our witty repartee', if we USAians can get a dem in the wh, start cleaning up this mess, and put those bastards responsible on trial as they deserve.. I guess you're just gonna have to fire up a fattie and find some other nation to bitch about.. Either way, good luck with your own nations neoBush I hear you've been saddled with recently. I'll spark one up tonight and wish the best for you and your fellow Canadicans bro..................JD