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Blackwater Gears Up For Gustav


Amy Goodman from DemocracyNOW asks investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill how Blackwater profited off Hurricane Katrina.

Security and intelligence expert Dr. R.J. Hillhouse reports at her "Spy Who Billed Me" blog that Blackwater has issued a shout-out for armed security officers for possible deployment under their DHS contract in the wake of Hurricane Gustav. Officers must have a firearms license - and those with revolver- only status need not apply. She reproduces this call for personell from Blackwater themselves, issued late Friday:

Blackwater is compiling a list of qualified security personnel for possible deployment into areas affected by Hurricane Gustav. Applicants must meet all items listed under the respective Officer posting and be US citizens. Contract length is TBD.

Law Enforcement Officers (all criteria must apply)

1. Current sworn [may be full time, part time or reserve]

2. With arrest powers

3. Armed status (must indicate Armed and/or Semi Auto. Revolver only not accepted) expiration must be greater than 60 days out

4. Departmental credentials (not just a badge)

Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK.

1. Current/active/licensed/registered armed security officer

2. All training verification [unarmed and armed certificates of completion]

3. Current state issued face card indicting armed status [expiration must be greater than 60 days out]

Last time out, during Katrina, Blackwater mercenaries were patrolling New Orleans in full battle dress and with assault weapons in what some called an end-run around Posse Comitatus. It looks like they're ready to do it again.  If so, let's hope there's none of the kind of "accidents" they've had in Iraq

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Halliburton. KBR, Blackwater. Merchants of and profiteers from death.

maybe they'll forcibly remove the remaining black residents.

We wondered when Blackwater would be first used against the American Public. Now we know.
Do you feel comfortable with this?
Wouldn't you rather have your National Guard doing this job,
people not filled with hate and bigotry, people who are locals policing
their own back yards?

This is step one of military takeover.

The people here (Thailand) are having huge demonstrations but the Guard and Army forces recognize the demonstrators as their own family in disagreement. If they allowed Armed Mercenaries to do this it would be bloodshed and chaos.

What's with that list of states qualifying under "Armed Security Officers"? Looks kinda swing-to-red, but maybe that's a coincidence.

Cernig said:
"Blackwater mercenaries were patrolling New Orleans in full battle dress and with assault weapons in what some called an end-run around Posse Comitatus."

I say:
What else could you call it? Does the Posse Comitatus Act say no Federal troops on American soil? ....or not? ...Hint...only National guard troops are allowed! ...and who cares what some call it! ...(what are your thoughts Cernig?)

Cernig said:
"It looks like they’re ready to do it again. If so, lets hope................"

I say: everyone go look up the "Posse Comitatus" ...and then do some inner reflection on how the corrupt, incompetent, and criminal, federal govt is making another power grab in its Quest for a police state.

Cernig said:
If so, let’s hope there’s none of the kind of “accidents” they’ve had in Iraq

I say: Hope? ...lets hope that Obama will have something to say about Bush and his continuous "end runs" around the law

Our president has a private army at his disposal, answerable only to him and virtually above the law, able to be deployed legally within the United States, and without any sworn allegiance to the Constitution. Anyone who thinks that America is still America is fooling themselves. The Founders knew what they were doing when they set up our system--not perfect, not ideal, but damned good!--but modern Americans have abdicated our responsibilities as citizens. If we had been doing our jobs as citizens, we wouldn't be in this mess.

The revolution should have started by now...

Natural and unnatural disasters show true humans in action. Nothing brings out the worst in humanity, like tragedy. Just look how relatives interact after someone dies. It's brutal. Good luck New Orleans. Let's hope it isn't open season again.

It may be chaos on the return trip. News sources are stating that as people are exiting they are buying up guns and ammo so they can get back into the city when the storm is over. I think these people realize that Blackwater has no authority over them. The people of New Orleans have the right to defend their property and will fight for it.

♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 4:

We wondered when Blackwater would be first used against the American Public. Now we know.
Do you feel comfortable with this?
Wouldn't you rather have your National Guard doing this job,
people not filled with hate and bigotry, people who are locals policing
their own back yards?

This is step one of military takeover.
The people here (Thailand) are having huge demonstrations but the Guard and Army forces recognize the demonstrators as their own family in disagreement. If they allowed Armed Mercenaries to do this it would be bloodshed and chaos.

The theft of the 2000 election started this shit. You think it would have been an ugly fight then coming up is mortal combat with zombies who cut their teeth on Abu Ghrab, Gitmo and the such. Don't look for humanity from the bearer of any weapon pointed at you, you're not one of the chosen.

How convenient! Blackwater will probably get thousands of applicants who have heard about the kind of pay this corp. offers. Just in time for the invocation of the Warner amendment's "martial law by presidential decree" nonsense passed in '05 - if memory serves. There are even some on the right that believe that this is about to happen. U-S-A...R-I-P!

Another odd detail is that the local Memphis daily (Commercial Appeal) is reporting that evacuees arriving by Amtrak in Memphis are being taken by FEMA to undisclosed locations. There are no real homeless shelters in Memphis, so wonder what this means? Are they staying in McCain's extra houses?

Paul B. @ 7:

Our president has a private army at his disposal, answerable only to him and virtually above the law, able to be deployed legally within the United States, and without any sworn allegiance to the Constitution. Anyone who thinks that America is still America is fooling themselves. The Founders knew what they were doing when they set up our system--not perfect, not ideal, but damned good!--but modern Americans have abdicated our responsibilities as citizens. If we had been doing our jobs as citizens, we wouldn't be in this mess.

The revolution should have started by now...

They use fear to keep the populace in check, as well as poverty, propaganda and cheap alcohol. Face it, we already live in a police state, as the arrests in St. Paul prove.

Somewhere old Nick Machiavelli is smiling as Eric PRINCE consolidates power.

Well, this could be the saving grace for the GOP. If anyone wonders why House Directive 51 was put into place, this would be the reason. Coordinated efforts from DHS alone. Suspend elections? Martial law?

And Blackwater fits in nicely with all of the above.

Maybe we can have the elections Zimbabwe style: vote for the right candidate or get a hand chopped off.

Is that not the republican way? Trickel down? Pee on your back and tell you it's raining? Make people stay on a bridge for days without food water or shelter when there was safe haven only about twenty miles away. Is this what you want America to be?

A little off topic, but, do you see that ad saying "They got Married! And have five kids! Get in touch with your former classmates"?

Punk rocker on the right?

Is it just me or is that Governor Palin on the left?

Does anybody else think it's funny that the McCain camp is drawing up contingency plans for their convention ahead of hurricane Gustav? Interesting development in light of the Stuart Shepard's call for rain to spoil the party in Denver. Reminds me of the margarine commercial, "It isn't nice to fool Mother Nature."

;-]

Listen, I was one of the first to arrive in New Orleans in the aftermath. As a resident, I was thankful for ANY security in New Orleans. For 2 1/2 months after the storm, New Orleans residents couldn't believe there was no crime at all.

I am a strict pacifist, my Dad was in Vietnam, and I do not support war. But I do support security. When I arrived, there was no abuse by troops, the Guard troops that were there did not bother anyone, nor did I hear of anyone being bothered, and my friends that did stay during the storm, said that as long as you cooperated with the troops there, not only did they not bother you, but they would also bring you food, ice, etc. You had no idea who was National Guard, who was Blackwater, or who was State Police. They had a job, and they did it well.

Get off the high horse, unless you've gone through one of these monsters, HELP IS NEEDED AND APPRECIATED.

Blackwater by Numbers: A Statistical Index

Value of Blackwater's federal contracts in 2001: $736,906
Value in 2002: $3.4 million
Value in 2003: $25 million
Value in 2004: $48 million
Value in 2005: $352 million
Value in 2006: $593 million
Total value of all Blackwater contracts at the end of 2006: $1 billion
Percentage growth since 2001: 80,453
Average daily pay for a Blackwater operator, according to Erik Prince: $500
Daily pay, according to government invoices: $1,221.62

In the Black(water)

"It's hard to imagine that the cronyism that has marked the Bush Administration is not at play in Blackwater's success. Blackwater founder Erik Prince shares Bush's fundamentalist Christian views. He comes from a powerful Michigan Republican family and social circle, and his father, Edgar, helped Gary Bauer start the Family Research Council. According to a report prepared for The Nation by the Center for Responsive Politics, in all of Erik Prince's political funding generosity since 1989, he has never given a penny to a Democrat running for national office. Company president Jackson has also given money to Republican candidates. For his part, Joseph Schmitz—the former Pentagon Inspector General turned general counsel to Blackwater's parent, The Prince Group—lists on his resume membership in the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, a Christian militia formed before the First Crusade. Like Prince, he comes from a right-wing family; his father, former Congressman John Schmitz, was an ultraconservative John Birch Society director who later ran for President. Joseph Schmitz was once in charge of investigating private contractors like Blackwater, but he resigned amid allegations of stonewalling investigations conducted by his department. He now represents one of the most successful of those contractors.

When some drunken redneck assassinates Obama and the cities start burning, then the Repiglicans will be prepared....

Brendan @ 17:

Does anybody else think it's funny that the McCain camp is drawing up contingency plans for their convention ahead of hurricane Gustav? Interesting development in light of the Stuart Shepard's call for rain to spoil the party in Denver. Reminds me of the margarine commercial, "It isn't nice to fool Mother Nature."

;-]

Or maybe the Old Testament got it about right, God is one grumpy old bastard. I'm expecting locusts next.

anon@18 The "high horse" comment was unwarranted. Anyway, I don't think that anybody is criticizing the idea of sending help to NOLA. I think that the reputation of Blackwater is being called into question. I think that the blurring of Posse Comitatus is frightening especially when one considers the antiConstition power grabbing track record of the current administration.
And if the possibility of thousands of new Blackwater operatives recruited just before a major election doesn't frighten you - then YOU are part of the problem.
And, yes, I have lived through a natural disaster.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the delineation here?:

Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK.

Thanks.

For Hurricane Gustav Homeland Security had a "plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system".

Congrats DHS, that's a lot cleaner than to tattoo serial numbers on everyone's forearm.

Many residents said the early stage of the evacuation was more orderly than Katrina, although a plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system failed and was aborted to keep the buses moving. Officials said information on evacuees would be taken when they reached their destinations.

New Orleans orders mandatory evacuation

From CNN:

President Bush, Vice President Cheney to skip Republican convention because of Hurricane Gustav, White House says.

Maybe they'll be in NO overlooking their troops. Oh well, three years too late is better than nothing...

Here is a perfect example of privatizing the military and police force with Blackwater, a paid for (from our taxes, yet financed by Big Oil and the GOP) elite Neo-Con Security force.
This is what the Shock Doctrine is all about. You deplete the government run military and national guard (which is why Bush and the Neo-Cons want an endless Iraqi war) and bring in the privatized Blackwater who gets funded buy our taxes and then kick backs money to the GOP in the form of campaign contributions or just plain illegal money laundering. Perfect scam these Fascist Republicans have going. Corporate Mafia at it's finest!
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/29/101446/82
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Anon @18

Given Blackwater's sorry track record of accountability I'm not convinced they are there to help. Expanding their role in America is in my opinion, a dangerous move because it validates the proposition that our constitutional rights are situationally optional. Blackwater was created and used by authoritarians that have a need to set aside these "inconvenient" constitutional rights as needed and have a legal methodology to control the public to their liking. I certainly sympathize with the need to keep order and appreciate your first hand experience, but let's make sure the cure isn't worse than the disease.

25 flex Says: better yet whats obamas view on blackwater? will he disband them? only the shadow knows!

anonymous@18

Listen, I was one of the first to arrive in New Orleans in the aftermath. As a resident, I was thankful for ANY security in New Orleans. For 2 1/2 months after the storm, New Orleans residents couldn’t believe there was no crime at all.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...

Get off the high horse, unless you’ve gone through one of these monsters, HELP IS NEEDED AND APPRECIATED.
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Here in Germany, from 1933 till 8 November 1948, the Germans were a happy group of people. There were no thieves, no rapist, no homosexuals, no rioters, no looters, no anarchist, no poor people. Security and safety were great. "Those SS guys were really good a their job." Got my drift...brother?

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from what ive read blackwaters into training the municipal police forces in america , you dont suppose they could be bribeing many to act as police and blackwaters humps do you? NAH A COP SELL OUT !

fastfeat @ 23:

Can anyone enlighten me as to the delineation here?:

Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK.

Thanks.

I suspect that it is because those states actually require training and certification...at least we do in Oregon.

The Democrats must hammer Bush/McCain over the use of Blackwater on our soil. I note that Louisiana seems to have their Guard units back, with equipment, this time. A welcome change.

Zlad! @ 31:

fastfeat @ 23:

Can anyone enlighten me as to the delineation here?:

Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK.

Thanks.

I suspect that it is because those states actually require training and certification...at least we do in Oregon.

The Democrats must hammer Bush/McCain over the use of Blackwater on our soil. I note that Louisiana seems to have their Guard units back, with equipment, this time. A welcome change.

I was thinking it had to do something with training too. Thanks.

18 anonymous Says:
"I am a strict pacifist, my Dad was in Vietnam, and I do not support war. But I do support security."

I say:
(actually Ben Franklin said)...Those willing to give up freedom for security, Deserve neither!

18 anonymous Says:
and my friends that did stay during the storm, said that as long as you cooperated with the troops there, not only did they not bother you, but they would also bring you food, ice, etc.

I say:
Bullcrap! I have seen video to the contrary! ...Cooperation with the troops for many people (who chose to stay and protect their homes) means get out of the house with your hands up! ...confiscate your guns...and get on a bus to a FEMA camp...where you can have food and water!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4&feature=related

My understanding was that during Katrina the very first thing Black water did was disarm everyone they could find. And you gun nuts thought the DNC were after your guns. As usual WRONG.

What do we expect from Erik, Prince of Darkness?

There IS a difference between a "kick some ass and crack some heads" mentality and "protect and serve". Blackwater does not protect and serve. They can take their macho crap somewhere else.

Of course I'm just a citizen and my opinion doesn't seem to weigh in on these matters.

Where are the units of the Louisiana National Guard?

Good luck disarming the "Christian Militia". In 20 years they will be rounding us up and shooting us for not attending Wednesday nght Bible study. It is a Christian nation, founded by Jesus, after all.

The root of the problem, it's cause and cure is levees

This basic information must be the best censored info on the Internet right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wln_iq5bc8k

24 fastfeat Says:"Can anyone enlighten me as to the delineation here?:

Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK.

Thanks."

I say:
Hmmmm, LA (loozyanna) is not in that list. ...?!

Wouldst Thou care to engage in a wager "I betcha!" on the following question?

"next time a storm heads for SC. , ...and Blackwater puts out a "similar" list...(as they prepare to takeover Charleston) ...that SC. will not be on that list

I think being a resident of a State that is (illegally) being subject to military law is a big red flag to Blackwater! (no possible defectors allowed)

Blackwater probably would prefer to have most of their mercenaries from other countries run the show, .. but they dont want to "forge" alot of papers that give non-Americans arrest powers!

A couple of these mercenaries will get shot and the next thing you know the entire country will be under martial law just in time for the election.

After Katrina these assholes were running around NO like the mercs they are shooting dogs, cats, and anything else that didn't have a social security number.

These people are thugs, and they shouldn't be allowed to operate.

you guys are idiots.

Half of the reason Katrina turned out to be so bad for New Orleans was the lack of law enforcement and the armed thugs running around shooting at rescuers. Rescue personnel will not go into an area when they are being shot at without armed security (usually law enforcement). There is no good plan within the law right now that allows law enforcement agencies to move armed cops across state borders, therefore getting a "strike team" of cops from another area outside the state just is not possible. The local guys not only have their hands full but are more worried about their own kids and families well being, as any good father they want to make sure their family is safe. The problem is of course that that makes them unavailable to do their job. Say what you will about dedication and duty but that is just human nature. Finding a way to get security into the area ahead of time is just a lesson learned from Katrina. The Constitution already prohibits us from using armed military against it's own people,and rightfully so. There is only so many national guard troops available and a lot of them are being used for rescue and relief efforts and we've already determined there is no legal way to move cops in from out of state.

So what would you rather have. Firemen and other relief workers getting shot by gang members that just want to cause trouble in an area they think they own and want to loot. Or rescuers being able to get in and actually help those that deserve it under the only umbrella of safety and security that we can legally muster at this time.

This is the Government trying to work within the laws that exist not circumvent the Constitution.

These guys are well paid legalized thugs no better than the bloods and the crips. We need to draft a bill and sign into law making this illegal.

tyree @ 30:

25 flex Says: better yet whats obamas view on blackwater? will he disband them? only the shadow knows!

Obama would end the senseless war in Iraq freeing up the national guard to handle situations like this making Blakwater useless
Check the facts, Blackwater is the hired gun of the Fascist Republican Party. I don't believe Democrat's have any use for them.

Are Blackwater and KBR given immunity to every law here like they are in Iraq? If they aren't, I'm less bothered by this (though still not unbothered).

46 Nick Says:
This is the Government trying to work within the laws that exist not circumvent the Constitution.

I say:

....the govt?...trying to work within the constitution?...

you gotta be kidding! ...right?

According to one article from a widely visited website the Department of Homeland Security had "a plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system." Congrats to DHS for a more efficient and digitaly clean population tracking program than arm tattoos.

"Many residents said the early stage of the evacuation was more orderly than Katrina, although a plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system failed and was aborted to keep the buses moving. Officials said information on evacuees would be taken when they reached their destinations."

48 flex Says: i will believe that when i see obama doing it! till then i remain a skeptic!,

Lets all go to the gun-show, because when Blackwater decides to go insurgent against the US federal governmant and the US troops, you're going to need some heavy hitting firepower to take back your local, state and federal government. These are the people everybody should be worrying about; Bin Laden has got nothing on this organization.

nick@46

We are idiots? You're a plain dumb ass!

Refer to #31. Merci.

nick@46

We are idiots? You're a plain dumb ass!

Refer to #31. Merci.

Can't remember saying this before.

Who cares about this stuff - it's just the future of our country. I wanna now about Britney, Paris, Brad and Angelina instead.

Nick @ 46:

you guys are idiots....
...
The Constitution already prohibits us from using armed military against it's own people,and rightfully so. There is only so many national guard troops available and a lot of them are being used for rescue and relief efforts and we've already determined there is no legal way to move cops in from out of state....

So what would you rather have.... Or rescuers being able to get in and actually help those that deserve it under the only umbrella of safety and security that we can legally muster at this time.

This is the Government trying to work within the laws that exist not circumvent the Constitution.

I'll avoid the easy "You're the idiot, Nick" comment because it's too obvious. Of course people want rescuers to be able to get in and help people, but not like this. We have the National Guard to assist whenever local law enforcement is unable to, so the solution here isn't to hire private thugs. The solution is to BRING HOME all of our Guard units so they can do their jobs HERE instead of in Iraq, etc.

Yes, the Constitution prohibits the use of military forces in/on Americans, so bringing in Blackwater is the VERY DEFINITION of "circumventing the Constitution." Blackwater guards are private military, armed to the teeth and geared toward warfare, not "security" in the way you mention. There are reasons why the government is limited in its ability to move cops, troops, etc. from state to state, and those reasons involve our Constitutional rights. So, by hiring Blackwater guards--who do not swear allegiance to the Constitution as our military forces do--our government is "circumventing the Constitution."

Next time, keep the insults to yourself, Nick.

Bush has sealed just about all the last steps necessary for a dictatorial controlled government.
Having mercenary army in charge and control of American citizens is even more illegal and dangerous as his illegal spying on us , illegal search and arrest of Americans without a reason or warrant and the patriotic bill passed by our congress.
When are the citizens of this country going to wakeup and say enough is enough.
Looks as if close to one half of our democrats are really republicans and will do everything in their power to support our decider's doctatorship and increase his war powers.
This is at the point where action should be taking now, to stop and retract his illegal dictatorial powers , because it is just a matter of time before Bush will call in his stormtroopper. Republican , Corporate , Mercenary private army , supplied and armed by our tax funds.

**Nick @ 46 says......................

you guys are idiots….

The Constitution already prohibits us from using armed military against it’s own people,and rightfully so. There is only so many national guard troops available and a lot of them are being used for rescue and relief efforts and we’ve already determined there is no legal way to move cops in from out of state….

So what would you rather have…. Or rescuers being able to get in and actually help those that deserve it under the only umbrella of safety and security that we can legally muster at this time.

This is the Government trying to work within the laws that exist not circumvent the Constitution.*
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Nich your answer speaks for itself.....
You must have been looking in a mirror ,, the same as the republicans do when they answer or attack a democrat.

What my question is , How in the h... did we get all these idiots in our country , which either have no idea of our constitution , bill of rights , laws or just don't give a d...

Not only is our President and Vice President illegal , but they are s..... all over our constitution , laws , citizens and country and every d... policy and action from them is illegal.

Kucinich stated the problem "WAKE UP AMERICA" ,,,, because we should know by now it is later then you think......

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Could we just have Blackwater K@I@L@L them?

Be a better use of taxpayer money. Noone will have to deal with their crime in the receiving cities, the taxpayer will have less welfare, food stamps and medicaid to pay for and some decent folks could make a fresh start of NO.

hey sporta, you offer criticism but no solution, so how do you propose this be solved>? i know, lets put you and kucinich down there to patrol the streets. i say, let there be no loss of life, and let the city sink. last time, i sent my hard earned money down there, then was told that mayor nagin was going to make it a 'chocalate city'. i didnt send my money to blacks or whites, i sent it to people in need. i will not make that mistake again.

Let me get this straight.

(1) A natural disaster occurs where US citizens require HELP.
(2) Your legal law enforcement is conveniently overseas bringing democracy to some poor bastards that didn't ask for it.
(3) Your government hires private mercenaries to disarm you and forcibly removes you from your home.
(4) FEMA rounds you all up and puts you in concentration camps complete with bar code electronic monitoring.

At what point do y'all start learning German fer chrissake?
You guys are well and truly f**ked.

this is how the communists first took over russia in the early 1900s - they took advantage of the social turmoil created when lenin (remember him? took over russia) had czar nicholas and his family murdered in 1918. lenin had made sure to get enough of his "buddy" communists in enough powerful positions so they were ready to strike soon after the czar and his family were murdered.

does this sound hauntingly similiar to what's happening in the u.s. right now?? - financial turmoil. employment turmoil. warfare turmoil. immigration/invasion turmoil. ... and a treasonous president with his henchmen nearly ready to ... take over??

is blackwater in nola just a test run for bush and cronies??

hey glad to be canadian, the one thing we have in america are problems, but somehow i think the reason both you and i dont speak german is because of america.do us a favor stay out of our problems, we hardly know you exist. so your smart little witty remarks may play well in canada but dont try to cross the border and say them. we americans may not like each other, but the one thing that brings us together is when foriegners try to tell us what to do or make fun of us. careful, if we wanted you could be state number 51, if there was anything of value up there we would. eh....

jim @ 62:

hey sporta, you offer criticism but no solution, so how do you propose this be solved>? i know, lets put you and kucinich down there to patrol the streets. i say, let there be no loss of life, and let the city sink. last time, i sent my hard earned money down there, then was told that mayor nagin was going to make it a 'chocalate city'. i didnt send my money to blacks or whites, i sent it to people in need. i will not make that mistake again.

You were told that Nagin was going to make it a chocolate city? You should probably check your source on that, Jim. Save a bit of your anger for reality. Here's an example of reality: our country hiring mercenary soldiers. (Did we learn nothing from Rome?)

I was in Iraq as a "Mercenary" last time New Orleans got wacked. They offered us 350 a day to go home and work and 99.9% of us turned it down. Why take 350 when you are already getting 750? Besides the ROE was much looser in the sandbox than it was on home soil.

Call me crazy but It wouldnt bother me in the least to drop a NOLA anymore than an Iraqi.

I was in Iraq as a "Mercenary" last time New Orleans got wacked. They offered us 350 a day to go home and work and 99.9% of us turned it down. Why take 350 when you are already getting 750? Besides the ROE was much looser in the sandbox than it was on home soil.

Call me crazy but It wouldnt bother me in the least to drop a NOLA squatter anymore than an it would an Iraqi.

hey bertw, i heard him say it. the reality of katrina is that every branch of government , city, state and federal failed. as for blackwater, i don't care about them. if they take over the government could they do a worse job? plus, they could eliminate dopes like you. sorta like the romans would.

Another retarded, liberal rant. Get your facts straight and take a shower. Both you and your extremist views stink.

BertW @ 66:

jim @ 62:

hey sporta, you offer criticism but no solution, so how do you propose this be solved>? i know, lets put you and kucinich down there to patrol the streets. i say, let there be no loss of life, and let the city sink. last time, i sent my hard earned money down there, then was told that mayor nagin was going to make it a 'chocalate city'. i didnt send my money to blacks or whites, i sent it to people in need. i will not make that mistake again.

You were told that Nagin was going to make it a chocolate city? You should probably check your source on that, Jim. Save a bit of your anger for reality. Here's an example of reality: our country hiring mercenary soldiers. (Did we learn nothing from Rome?)

1- The Mercenaries are simply other american citizens who work for money.
2-Your local hospital is protected by a 'Mercenary' group.
3- The only practical difference between BlackWater and the NOPD is which insurance company pays off in the event of an accidental shooting.
4-Demonizing 'mercenaires' is one step away from demonizing the Armed Forces themselves. In fact many of the so called Mercenaries are simply retired Army and Marines vets.
5-I heard Nagin say that NO should be a chocolate city....I also heard his lame comeback that Chocolate was somehow supposed to equate to white milk and dark chocolate. Which makes me assume further that Nagin would not then be offended if someone suggested using white chocolate so that the city would not be so dark and bitter afterward. But I think we all know he would be offended.

[quote #71]4-Demonizing ‘mercenaires’ is one step away from demonizing the Armed Forces themselves. In fact many of the so called Mercenaries are simply retired Army and Marines vets.[endquote]

The differences between a nation's armed forces and private armies are numerous. And the ROE of a banditry is just one glaring example. Name one country that has benefited itself long-term by jobbing-out national defense. Just one.
And in fact, using mercenaries doesn't demonize the Army and Marines, it demeans it. We have military families living on food stamps while we're paying Blackwater and other companies enough money to shell out $750 a day per spear carrier and still make a fat, fat profit. Having Blackwater and its ilk governing New Orleans also demeans sworn law enforcement--another group of public servants who are poorly compensated.

dan poser wannabe mercianry grow up be an adult thinking humanbeinng 750 a month would be more in your range picking up trash on the side of the road

[quote #73]dan poser wannabe mercianry grow up be an adult thinking humanbeinng 750 a month would be more in your range picking up trash on the side of the road[endquote]

Love your sentence structure, spelling and syntax. We will leave the garbage handling to people of your caliber.

Jackboot:

[quote# 67]"Call me crazy but It wouldnt bother me in the least to drop a NOLA anymore than an Iraqi."

One is neither a decent human being, nor an altruist, just because one is smart (id est: Hitler). As a race, we are just smart enough to be a danger to ourselves and others. Your lack of empathy for human life is textbook psychopathic.

"You're a murderer, young Alex, a murderer!"

-Anthony Burgess

Thank God that President Bush created Hurricane Gustav and directed it to New Orleans so that he could put the entire country under martial law right before an election so that McCain can win.

Come on guys, you're embarrassing yourselves.

not saying that at all, although there is H.R. 1522

the government has created a class of people that is totally dependent on them. the government pays their rent, gives them food stamps, mediciad, and allows them to go trough life without making any contribution to society. then, a hurricane comes through and the government tells them to wait, 'we will send buses to get you', but the buses don't show up. 1/3 of the police run away, all services break down. the mayor doesn't request state aid until its way too late. the state refuses federal aid, as requied by law, until its way too late. for once bush doesn't break the law, so he waits until the request for federal aid comes through proper channels. my advice to the people of new orleans, use your brain, get out now, don't believe the government, be it city,state, federal. flee the danger by any means you can, if you wait you will be sorry. go somewhere else, start your life over, because in another year or two the same thing will happen. as for nagin, he has shown great incompetence in the past, what makes you think he will change now? you have a new governor, hard to imagine he could do a worse job then the previous one, but bush is still president. you have 2 of the 3 same people running things. get out now, don't wait , save your life yourself. don't listen to anyone but me, not the conservatives or the liberals, they are lying to you. trust me , get out now. you can not stop the hurricaine from coming, even if it misses new orleans, the levees will break. 10 to 20 inches of rain will do that. and don't go back, find a new place to live, start your life over, don't depend on the government for anything. get out now. i say again, get out now.

milquetoast said:
I say: Hope? …lets hope that Obama will have something to say about Bush and his continuous “end runs” around the law.

Obama is a puppet, like Bush. Only worse. He can't think on his own. He owes his position to many groups and corps, not unlike Bush, but in the fact that he has never once been in a leadership position. Blackwater plays all sides. It makes money because the Govt can't call in troops. Blackwater is beholden to none, not even the Constitution.

Remember that one time those really nice people tried to rescue some people after some kind of big storm or something, and the people didn't want their looting spree interrupted so they started firing guns at the rescue helicopters full of volunteers trying to save peoples lives? I think it was in the south somewhere, I think I heard one of the victims say it happened in a place called Nawlins or something like that?

And you morons wonder why they want mercenaries involved...

I am betting that before it is over, we are going to be in armed conflict with these thugs. Our military and/or average citizens will have to fight these guys. They represent the private-army-of-thugs-stage in the multi-step program of converting a free society into a totalitarian dictatorship.

President Obama needs to make sure that the mercenary armies lose all government and state contracts. This can be achieved with an executive order.

I don't know about the rest of you losers, but I'm getting a job with Blackwater. That's where the real money is, and you get to shoot people that look different from you! Win win situation!

I can't believe this is a serious article. This sounds way to much like Ravenwood and it's role in the aftermath of the nuclear bombing in the TV SHOW Jericho......wtf?!

garcia @ 31 got it right on the button.
Blackwater is todays SS.
Not really police, not really military but with more power and less rules then the other two.
They were the ones that round up the jews, communists and others.
They were the ones that ran the concentration camps.

But do you honestly still wonder?
When people are totally unwilling to see the truth, for instance the fubar invasion of Iraq, and would rather act like BushCo was some boyscout that just lost the cookie money (oh it was just mismanaged), how can you expect them to even do or think about such terrible issues?
No when a country rapes another weak country and murders hundreds of thousands of people, just for it's natural resources, it is a crime against humanity and not some friggn mistake.

You should all be very afraid and hope Obama survives and wins.
And then maybe he can clean up the pile of crap that was able to assemble for over 100+ years.
Failure will be horrible.

[quote #80- BigRed75]- "And you morons wonder why they want mercenaries involved…"

Well, if by THEY, you mean WE THE PEOPLE, those of us who supposedly own this county; no, I don't remember voting in a private police force to act above the law without impunity. If I wanted a jackboot to act above the law and without impunity, all I have to do is call the police. At least I can sue the police later when then beat/taze a family member to death or stick a billy club up their ass in custody.

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