And Banning Books Too?
By Cernig Tuesday Sep 02, 2008 12:40pm
Yes, according to the Republican that Sarah Palin beat to become mayor of Wasilla.
[Former mayor] John Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.
This comes from a TIME article filed from Wasilla, where journalists are busy doing the vetting that McCain left to a secretive ultra-right group, the Council for National Policy.
The TIME article goes on to describe how Palin back-stabbed early supporters and put gag-orders on her department staff, telling them they couldn't speak to reporters without her permission. It also outlines how she's changed what is important to her in successive elections, always taking a position she believes will win her votes rather than taking a principled stand.
But have you noticed, as one of my C&L colleagues pointed out to me, how Palin uses that "not giving full support" phrase as the reason for attempting to have those who disagree with her fired? It's implicit in her defense on Troopergate and seems to have played a part in her firing of her original police chief in Wasilla too. He, on the other hand, alleged big-politics interests behind her move.
[Irl] Stambaugh, the police chief and a member of Palin's step-aerobics class, filed a lawsuit for wrongful termination, alleging that Palin terminated him in part at the behest of the National Rifle Association, because he had opposed a concealed-gun law that the NRA supported. He eventually lost the suit. The animosity spawned some talk of a recall attempt, but eventually Palin's opponents in the city council opted for a more conciliatory route.
So this is the true Sarah Palin. Not only a devoted and principled believer in ultra-right causes and authoritarian control but also a cynical and manipulative politician willing to use underhanded methods and authoritarian edicts to get her way. (Yes, I know - in other words, a Republican.)
As my C&L colleague also says: "This woman is quickly moving from unqualified to downright scary."
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If they steal this one...and we let them get away with it...
This Woman will usher in "The Hand Maids Tale" days of America...
Mark these words.
Know that book??
Read it...
Don't like to read.. ??
Watch the Movie...
Where's the list of books Palin didn't want? Curious about that one....
There's something about Palin that probably gave Rove tingles all over....
She's kind of like a female version with a lot more teeth....
...we could build a big fire and dance around like wild indians...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale
Notice that the sign is riddled with bullet holes. At least a few people are aware.
i'm waiting to see how she spins trying to fire the town librarian?!?!?!? of course, that's provided anyone in the msm actually asks her about it, or her apparent affinity for firing anyone who doesn't "support" her.
I have a feeling as more and more is learned about the Barracuda and her background, that only the authoritarian, ultra-religious types in this country will be backing her. McCain is so screwed and I am so happy.
This keeps getting better and better. If MSM does it job, and inform the public(I'm not holding my breath), this should turn off Indendants.
No wonder she's thought of so highly by the Republicans.
Anyone who wants to ban books is unAmerican.
rduke @ 4:
This was probably on her list of books to ban.
Banning books?? Awesome!
Is the Coast Clear?--- @ 2:
That was the second thing I thought. I also wish to know what books she wanted banned.
This bitch sounds like a fascist, super religious sycophant. Perfect for the continuation of Orwellian doctrine.
from what i understand palin didn't get as far as suggesting any specific books she wanted pulled, because as soon as she brought up the general idea the librarian let her know that she had no intention in engaging in any form of censorship.
they say that palin is a tough cookie, but i'd love to meet that librarian.
e.c. @ 6:
What's this about attacks on librarians? Didn't McSame go after one too?
Notice that the GOP idiots and their minions at Fuax Noise are now touting Palin and attacking anyone not falling in line with that propaganda marketing campaign. It's both hilarious and scary all at once.
Firing for not giving "full support"? If not qualified as a GOPer VP candidate, that's the kind of vindictiveness and compartmentalized thinking that GOPers like to see in their AG's and DoJ attorneys. Her proven track record in that regard should at least put in top running for the AG slot in any future GOPer
administrations, er,regimes, er, juntas.She sounds like the perfect person to replace Cheney ( from the Repugs POV ).
WHAT GRINDS ME IS THAT VOICE OF HERS... yikes!!!
Why isn't this stuff getting out to the mainstream. Surely even republicans that aren't that rabbit wingnuts would be scared with someone like this. This country can't take another 4 yrs and a more scary Bush III administration. We all must do all we can to get the vote out for Obama.
How did she become the most popular governor (leader) in the country....which I've heard 3 times today?
It's getting more surreal by the day. Repu'ublicists, hoisted on their own petard. My schadenfreude runneth over.
Charles@15, Yeah, Faux News is becoming a parody. Their ratings are dropping. Young people have abandoned them and their audience is getting older. Pretty soon Faux News will be a footnote in history.
And these are the guys who are going to protect us from the "Nanny State?"
I remember over 25 years ago reading all small article in Playboy, because my hand was tired, that a small library in California agreed to remove books from shelves and move them to adult readership if they offended certain specification as per religious groups. Following those specifications they moved the Bible to the adult reading sections, so kids had to have adult permission to check it out.
All at once in unison was heard across the land, "That's not what we meant!"
A post Mike linked in his roundup gives more detail. Palin actually fired the librarian, who was reinistated after public outcry. Palin's an authoritarian bully.
What next, advocating burning people at the stake? Seems that's about the only thing left.
The Palins = the Clampetts on meth.
a small library...
It's hard to type one handed.
A psychopathic gun packing,book burning Betty Crocker.
BTW this talk of her having more "experience" than Obama is getting real old.
As Colbert pointed out,she has more "executive experience" than McCain so make her President.
"Experience" is just a dumb frame up.Let's talk accomplishments.Obama has accomplished more than most of us will in a lifetime (including most of his colleagues,and certainly this unknown nut job from Alaska) and his world wide recognition speaks to that quite eloquently.
It also outlines how she’s changed what is important to her in successive elections, always taking a position she believes will win her votes rather than taking a principled stand.
She sounds like McCain with a vagina....soulmates suurre!!!
There is also an interesting report (in that letter from an AK resident) going around about her having an adminstrator put in place to run the city for her after the recall issue came up. Apparently there was some lack of trust regarding her hands on abilities or judgement.
Batocchio @ 23:
Somebody HAS to ask her why she fired the librarian! It's those little questions that can't be rehearsed, and will get them every time!
Palin is definitely a reformer /not.
Mike Murphy is right (OMFG!!, I agree for once) that Palin is Jesse Helms in a dress.
HAHAHA! Oh man. McCavey is weak.
Kald @ 11:
Ban the Bible...the Old Testament especially. There's some pretty kinky stuff in there. Not that I'm complaining.
Yove got to watch those small town librarians. Terrorists, every one. It's the Aunt Bea branch of Al Qaeda.
"unqualified" to "downright scary", indeed! And, just in time for Halloween as she dons her false face for the american public. Only someone who borders on sociopathy can withstand the obvious lies and contradictions which are being aired. Only someone as deluded as John McCain would believe that the people are not intelligent enough to make a clear assessment that she is grossly unqualified.
I happened to notice the phrase used by Palin as rationale for firing the Chief of Police and the Head of the Library as "not supporting her". This has the exact ring of the politization of the Department of Justice and every aspect of the Bush Reich. Of course, they didn't support her - she's "certifiably" lockstep and lacking human decency and logic. They were probably Democrats, as well. Does anyone know?
As I've said previously - this country will get what we deserve and the consequences of two totally ill-prepared individuals sitting in the White House has everyone on edge right now regardless of political affiliation. In fact, I believe that we're seeing the stock market react to Palin. There's no doubt that we will be "ripe for the pickin'" by some of the world superpowers (china, Russia....to name a few) if they see an unqualified, ignorant woman at our helm. God help us! This is one of the darkest times in my lifetime and will be one of the darkest times in american history if we permit this to occur.
I don't think Rs and Ds think of the president as the same thing. Ds seem to believe that the president should be qualified to lead and make decisions where Rs seem not to care. They want a King who looks good and makes them feel good about themselves but they know that the real governing goes on behind the scenes by some cabal (Rove, Cheney, PNAC, et.al) Also with this scenario the real decision makers are hidden and beyond accountability. The idea being that it would be the president who takes the fall in case of impeachment or simply low approval and the cabal remains intact. It appears to me that this has been going on since Reagan.
As an aside, i am worried that Americans are going to vote for the candidate they would most like to have a glass of prune juice with.
lj @ 30:
And ask her why she fired the dairy board. And ask her why she cut funding for help for pregnant teens.
The GOP :
The Wonderful World of Dizzy .................
The animosity spawned some talk of a recall attempt, but eventually Palin’s opponents in the city council opted for a more conciliatory route.
And thats why the Democrats lose...theyre always trying to play nice...
Palin shouldve been recalled...Bush shouldve been impeached...the Dems shouldve attacked the GOP for trying to recall 4-5 governors (all Democrats, naturally) after Grey Davis was recalled...seriously...recall Ed Rendell of PA?
These Demoratic leaders need to get in the friggin ring and not wait for the GOP to do stupid things before they send people to do their swinging for them...
to quote Jon Stewart 'it gets to a point where you have to say GUYS...pick up your game'
Ruthless People @ 24:
Ask her crazy preacher. The topic of Rev. Wright just fell of the republican talking point list.
Jo @ 25:
I'm sure the selection of Sarah Palin Clampett to be on the ticket went over well with Mrs. Cindy Drysdale McCain.
the word authoritarian should be floated to describe her. as in PALIN AN AUTHORITARIAN? former police chief of wasilla fired for going against donors.
everytime the likes of fiorina takes exception to criticism by saying it's a sexist attack on palin, they should be reminded that palin said clinton was a whiner. and that the obama campaign does not say they are racist for criticizing obama.
Yup! Vote this crew in and we are looking at pre 1930's Nazi Germany.
Charles @ 5:
YEAH! More guns, fewer books! Let's make this country safe for everyone!!!
Sure, books are dangerous but a gun-totin' tranny who kills beautiful animals to use them as sofa covers is not - gotta love that twisted, psycho logic. Is this what we've become distilled down to? What women have become trivialized to? Strap yer guns onto your knockers gals....and let's go hunt some moose! This is downright vulgar.
Ruthless People @ 40:
Especially in the wake of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU
To me she acts like a man. I swear the more you look at those two the more Obama/Biden look like presidential material. The more that comes out about her the more she morphs into the Bush/Cheney mold. ewewww
I can just see the look on Cindy Drysdale McCain's face when Sarah Palin Clampett invites her and John over for a helping of mustard greens and possum belly.
Men of this country: Pick up your game is right! When every educated, informed male in this country realizes McCain's implication that this woman who governs a state the size of Austin, Texas and is "highly qualified", them's fightin' words. McCain has emasculated every man in this country with this implication. He's also made a travesty of the vetting process, the office of Vice President, and the office of Presidunce.
Palin's attempt at banning books and action against the librarian Mary Ellen Baker are actually terrifying. It comes close to the Nazi burning of books "Säuberung".
If Palin does not get her way she tries to destroy people. That is so not good.
If she becomes the president just how far would she go to push her agenda?...
Is the Coast Clear?--- @ 2:
I've been saying since she was announced that something just didn't seem right; I don't think McCain and Rove and their minions are stupid.
Palin is downright scary. McCain hires Randy Scheunemann and Robert Kagan and other neocons who are driving his foreign policy, and he hires Palin, who is supported by CNP and the rest of the crazy religious right.
If McCain wins, it will be worse than we can ever imagine.....ultra right wingers will get in his cabinet, and that will trickle down, just like they want their economic plan to do.
lj @ 19:
Maybe she screwed Bush/Cheney and daddy McCain (maybe). Oh never mind we the american people are getting screwed.
The Day They Came to Arrest the Book, by Nat Hentoff
Palin is trying to do a cover-up!
Steve Branchflower, the lead investigator, began trying to arrange a deposition of the governor days before her veep selection. And despite claiming executive privilege to shield requested emails, up until that point Palin had promised full cooperation with the probe.
Now, however, she is refusing to submit to questioning by Branchflower unless he and the legislative committee that appointed him agree to relinquish control of the investigation and turn it over to a state review board made up of three Palin appointees.
Yesterday, Palin took the unusual step of having her lawyer, Thomas van Flein, file an ethics complaint against her with the state's Attorney General. This, she hopes, will lead the AG to give the investigation to the aforementioned state personnel board. Unless that happens, and Branchflower agrees to close down his investigation, she will refuse to testify.
Ruthless People @ 24:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
southernman @ 28:
that was my first thought too. In fact I was about to paste that same quote from the piece. McCain has done that very thing by choosing her. To hell with principle, bring on whatever will get the votes. Birds of a feather indeed.
After the Repub convention, I think you will here a lot more of this sort of thing from the media. They don't seem to be treating McCain as the darling any more. His campaign has cut him off from much of the media and those donut bringing reporters aren't liking it.
e.c. @ 13:
And the librarian was FIRED.
sophya @ 44:
The U.S.of A. has never been known as a civilized nation. We have always celebrated the mediocre.
NEliberal @ 32:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/Bible/Song_of_Solomon.html
Sophya @34:
Well thought out and written as usual! I am truly amazed how they can control the minds of millions with platitudes, fear, flag waving (I got queazy watching the monitor last night)/patriotism etc.
As long as the talk is about her "sins" there's a chance to get rid of the lot of them!
It is our "patriotic obligation" to vet Sarah Palin and don't let anyone intimidate you into believing otherwise. EVEN IF John McCain told us he's vetted her completely (remember: if his lips are moving, he's lying) it would still be encumbent upon every american to discover as much about the #2 candidate as possible. Now since we've seen in 5 short days that all of the scandals surrounding her teased little bouffant coif were NOT known previously by McSame, we KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was, literally, NO VETTING PROCESS.
This is a derelection of duty by Candidate McSame and is indisputable. His lack of concern for the safety of this country is clear. His personal lack of judgment and his lack of discipline in this cavalier, capricious choice (which was to trump Bush/Rove) illustrates what a total flake this man truly is. He cannot be trusted and his judgment is certainly impaired.
But, I'm not one of those who are vociferously calling for Palin's resignation or non-confirmation; conversely, as the case actually is. I LOVE the fact that this incompetent governor of one year who will, undoubtedly, assume the office of president when McCain is sidelined by his health, is running on the Republican ticket. Hell, Romney or Lieberman could have really made things rough for Obama and Biden. Now it's a "slam dunk". No man with a brain stands behind a women with no talent and no experience. No contemporary women who realizes the importance of equal pay for equal work or control over her reproductive rights could ever pull the lever for Palin. Even disgrunted Hillary supporter (those who are legit, that is and not Republicans in disguise) would ever support a woman who is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. SARAH PALIN IS NO HILLARY CLINTON AND WILL NEVER MEASURE UP TO THE INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE OF HILLARY CLINTON. Not in this lifetime.
So instead of the "Straight Talk Express" we'll have Reverend Lovejoy driving the "Book Burning Mobile."
The Palins are coming to Washington http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZp2JcmUU6o
Oil that is! Black gold, Alaska tea! So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Washingon....DC that is...corrupt politicians, lobbyists...the DC Hillbillies!
cobsjo @ 54:
This latest "palin stunt" only shows her for what she is - a corrupt fraud. This isn't going to fly and everyone will be watching. She's not only unqualified; she's corrupt and unqualified.
Charles @ 12:
I've read several articles on this (sorry, I don't have links), but I believe the librarian said no books were named, that the subject under discussion was how Palin could go about banning books.
lj @ 60:
Well, clearly many Americans are either in total denial or are incredibly stupid regarding the scope and depth of outright criminal behavior perpetuated by our government. Just looking at the people at the RNC leads me to believe the latter.
Big Mac and the Barracuda.
Straight talk, reform and change in Washington.
Tune in tonight and bring a thick skin, Obombers.
Ruthless People @ 63:
The Palins are the quintessential characature of the Alaskan Hillbillies if ever there was one. Their outdated dress and lack of finesse is excruciatingly apparent. They've given the term "hick" new meaning.
Anyone who would ever suggest banning books should be banned from running in any election. Why the hell would any candidate choose someone like that to run with them? This is about as un-American as you can get.
Delete "reformer" and insert authoritarian.
Charles @ 66:
yes, we will get what we deserve and if the Rethugs have their way, we will be handing ourselves over to the terrorists on a silver Palin platter! This is all part of their coup on our own democracy and we're seeing it unfold.
How did this website get so many stupid liberal pukes on it. Crooks and liars is a good name for this site cause lies are all they have on here.
She'd probably ban cartoons too: http://blueherald.com/2008/09/cartoon-of-the-day/
and why the fuck do they all keep saying she has been governor for 2 years? fucking liars.
http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/
http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/http://sarah...
Go here you will find out the real Sarah Palin if this in fact is her real site this is the woman who is accepting the vice presidency!
She was taking pills from Cindy McCain and thinking she is filling out questionairs but really blogging about jazzercizing!
pissed off patricia @ 69:
Authoritarian is putting it kindly. Hell, this woman is a certified, lockstep reichwing nazi! I'm beginning to think that she's related to Eva Braun!!!
Had Palin's daughter and putative son-in-law acted in one of several states, including McCain's Arizona, where the age for consensual sex is 18, he might perhaps be in jail for statutory rape. Does she have an opinion on this? Or could McCain say how many men are in jail in Arizona for this crime?
She is the essence of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
chicano2nd @ 72:
More lies atop lies....16 months is not even a year and a half. But that shows you how complicit our media is in this national charade. Russia, China, Iran, etc. are laughing their asses off at this shenanigan called Palin. Now they know we're "certifiably f---ed" and will begin making their takeover move.
Sam are I @ 65:
Yes, but clearly she has some sort of list or some books she wants banned. I wonder how she came up with the idea? Did someone mention it, or was she just testing the boundaries of her power? Maybe she has no idea she's a total fascist and completely against freedom of any kind.
pissed off patricia @ 75:
A wolf in outdated, shabby sheep's clothing at that.
OKAY...I'm getting a cold so in a piss mood anyhow...but GET REAL...Repugs count on the ignorance of the voting public which is WHY they continue to spout this crap over and over with no back up (and are seldom asked the second question - you go Campbell Brown - no matter how surprised I was) ...they KNOW they will not be called on it and that our MSM will not follow through...or remember and will move on to the next shiny object asap...notice that a day or two after they realized that the "getting Hillary voters" wouldn't work (watch Samatha Bee's bit on TDS of last Friday night) they immediately switched to the REFORMER meme (she's reformed WHAT? - libraries!)...WHY oh WHY can folks on the left stay focused/prepared and armed to rebut all they say faster and faster than they do...forget about her daughter and go after all this other stuff...I WANT to believe there is media in Alaska doing the vetting McSame didn't do...will when I see it come out and have an effect...
e.c. @ 13:
Librarians don't much like censorship. That gets drilled into you in MLIS programs.
BobbyG @ 45:
LOL!
Ah man...totally looked like he was trying to smell her...and the way his mouth was twitchin, he was imagining all kindsa nasty.
sophya @ 70:
It's just more proof that the majority is often wrong. Especially if they are brainwashed or just total freaking morons. Or both! hahahaahaha!
dennis @ 67:
Absolutely, watch it like you would if you were a reconnaissance officers watching enemy movement through a set of binoculars. Move shut, taking notes, maintain your cool. Stay low profile and just see what you will have to counter, because we will.
1. No, Fred we are not in a panic over Palin's "selection". We are laughing until our sides hurt.
2. Arlen Spector said a few times of McCain, "Its his show" and "he made his choice" wow, what an endorsement
ho hum, another "values" rethuglican that has no values.
what a shock that it turns out she's nothing but a filthy whore.
The repubs are going to swat down any negative news about her by saying the media and some democrats are trying to do to her what they did to Hillary Clinton, attack her because she is a woman. This is where we need Hillary out there and loud out there. She needs to be the one assigned to after Palin with everything she's got. It wouldn't hurt if Bill gave her a hand here too.
StirFry @ 39:
I saw her preaching video yesterday....very, very scary. Around the 6 minute mark into it, she's talking about our soldiers doing God's will in Iraq.
You know, we all hate these Islamofascist terrorists that the Repugs in particular make a big issue over. But those Islamofascist terrorists use Islam to justify their killings and the rest of their backward ways. They take the Quran literally.....all of this in the quest for power.
BillO the Clown has made mention many times that George Soros is the most dangerous man in America. The Council on National Policy (CNP) is the most dangerous group in America....and John McCain and Sarah Palin are their newest representatives.
Yes, she's pretty wierd. I think the worst aspect is that she is tramping around enjoying her own paycheck and limelight while WHO KNOWS is banging her daughter. Could it be daddy? The last kid born is the right race (Inuit).
However, all this chat is notwithstanding. It is beneath us. We are wasting our time with her. We are opening a door for them to put JEB BUSH in as veep. EYES WIDE OPEN GUYS... things could get worse.
Why do I say that? Because
"Sarah Palin's VP Selection Is A Trojan Horse"
When you Google that statement you get:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread387427/pg1
Their site is not open to arguments but will accept polite response.
content of the article here:
Sara Palin's selection as John McCain's VP running mate is intended to end badly within the next two to three weeks as part of a devious Republican strategy. The McCain/Republcan strategy never intended for Palin to run the full course of the campaign and most likely not more than two weeks past the end of the Republican National Convention. As a result of attacks on her and the focus on her family, she will resign in shame and disgust, and the McCain campaign then intends to real the rewards of the resulting sympathy.
I have been in contact with a source that has previously provided reliable information on several issues. The strategy is outlined below, which is a combination of informed speculation and quietly-passed information:
(1) The McCain campaign has long ago quietly picked their VP running mate intended to be on the ticket in November.
(2) Palin has been selected as a "trojan horse" target for vocal political firebrands to have a veritable field day.
(3) The strategic response to criticism of Palin is a scripted minimalist retort intended to actually invite more criticism.
(4) Key McCain operatives, posing as intense liberals, will seed blogs and bulletin boards with horrific claims about Palin.
(5) Key McCain operatives, acting as "insider informants", will spill minor tidbits from "inside" the campaign organization to help fuel the negative Palin speculation.
(6) As the criticism reaches its peak, and a "family secret" is exposed by an intensely savage "liberal blogger", Palin will resign.
(7) After an appropriate period of McCain campaign faux indignation and a "second VP search", their original choice will be revealed.
Among those quietly discussing this rumored strategy, one name continues to emerge as the likely architect, Carl Rove. And, as is typical of the strategic maneuverings of Rove during campaigns, the intended outcome is multi-facted:
(1) The McCain campaign organization intends to reap significant reward from voters who are showing both sympathy and ager over what has transpired.
(2) The Republican party insiders expect this issue to become the tipping point that initiates strict media control over political bloggers.
(3) The McCaign campaign expects this issue to remove examination of familial matters from the news, as there are deep issues in Cindy McCain's professional life that could harm them.
(4) The backlash of the perception resulting from attacking a "hockey mom", "nice perso