Where's the beef? I mean policy from the Republican Convention
By John Amato Wednesday Sep 03, 2008 1:15pm
Has anyone heard anything about how the Republicans will try and fix the economy so far during their Convention? Not a peep. They practically hid the fact that it IS a Republican Convention. And as Rick Davis says:
"This election is not about issues," said Davis. "This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."
It's a party of no ideas because the old ones do not work. They are good at attack dog politics, which is what Davis means. Well, they did add a few new ones like the preemptive doctrine or--attack anyone the neocons want. Then scold other nations when they copy that policy. Torture and rendition too, but the media won't dare to bring that up during an election season.
Bush got a few minutes to speak and Cheney was a no show. I'm sure tonight McCain will talk about making Bush's tax cuts permanent because the economy is so bad---because Bush's tax cuts worked so well in making the rich, really rich, yea---the country is very happy---which he wants to make permanent. And then I reckon we'll hear how he'll make health care more affordable because he'll demand health insurance companies give you better prices. See, easy fix. Then the rest of the night will be about how he knows how to win wars. WAR, WAR, WAR...
UPDATE: How many times did they even mention Bush's name last night?
Only one mention of President Bush during last night's RNC.
Last night, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani, and Gov. Sarah Palin addressed the Republican National Convention. Between the four of them, there was only one reference to President Bush - in Romney's pre-prime-time speech...
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I've been thinking the Monty Python Cheese Shop Sketch is a better analogy. It's certainly devoid of any cheese!
As Joe Biden has been illustrating throughout today on the stump, Sarah Palin's speech was exceptionally shallow on the issues.
The "blame the media" and "this election isn't about issues" themes are telling, the McCain campaign prefers the voters not know where they stand.
Learn the differences, vote smart.
www.SarahPalinISNTHillaryClinton.com
Duh.
In true Karl Rove fashion, they looked at the greatest strength the Democrats had -- running against the Republican Party -- and made it their own theme, just disguised.
All of the Republican leaders last night pantomimed to be running against the Republican Party, as long as it was not named and left in confusing vagueness.
What I take from this Republican Convention is that it isn't about ideas that are the best for the country. Its simply about ideology. For McCain and Palin to come up with their own ideas on any topic would take away from that so they barrow the same failed ideas that the Bush Administration used.
I've been wondering about this for some time. They keep yelling that Obama doesn't have any details when, in fact, he does, yet they don't seem to have any real policies.
Unless John McCain fought in WWII, he doesn't know jack about winning wars. Unless bombing civilians counts as "winning," in which case his finger should not be on the button.
They got plenty of beef
Against President Obama
They act like he's been in office for years
And they're the outsiders,
When mcgramps isn't going around presumptiously acting presidential.
Policies! Who needs fucking policies? The Jim Crow Party's(whites only) agenda is simply to hate minorities, gays, the poor, the homeless(meaning the saps who lost their homes), health care freeloaders peace, etc. Hate is all they need.
And I thought this election was about the economy.
Look at the reports just out today on the economy....
--Jobless claims up by 15,000, more than expected.
--People are worried about the jobless claims number coming out tomorrow
--"Economists are predicting the eighth straight monthly payrolls drop, and a rise in the unemployment rate" in the report tomorrow" (from AP)
--Retailers are saying that shoppers have curtailed their spending this past month
--As if 01:25 PM, the Dow Jones is down over 330 points
Oh, regarding my comments in number 9.....I guess that all don't matter to those rich fucks at the GOP.
to be fair, this is a national security issue . . . if the republicans laid bare their agenda, the masses would be storming the white house
Gawd that's still an annoying commercial!!
Folks, just wait for McCain tonight to deliver his speech. You have heard the same empty promises in the past by the Washington D.C. politicians. Healthcare, tax, trade agreement, farmers, aliens' rights, border crisis, immigration, prisons, big spending, ME oil, war, abortion, gay marriages, etc. The list goes on and on.
The McCain strategy is to deliver their package and rest depends on the we the people.
I can guarantee you, that McCain is not Bush and McCain has a vision that he is able to bring the country together. If the Dems have an issue about unity, then even G-d cannot unite this country or may be He will, with a stick.
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN!!!
Forgotten war?
A reader points out — and a search of the speech texts on the GOP convention site seems to confirm — a surprising fact There hasn't been a single mention of Afghanistan at this convention.
Via Politico
From VetVoice:: Republican Convention Refuses to Mention Afghanistan or Pakistan
1 Stash Says: I’ve been thinking the Monty Python Cheese Shop Sketch is a better analogy. It’s certainly devoid of any cheese!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0
republicans get scarier with every election morph.
This is standard GOP/Faux News procedure.
In 2004, they observed that 'principles are more important than facts' - even though the Bush crowd has neither.
Background for you young whipper-snappers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0
General Jack D. Ripper @ 10:
And it doesn't matter to the not-so-rich dumbasses who think it would be super keen to have a hockey mom as VP !! Wheeeeee!
Jack, stop speaking facts.
You're scaring the livestock.
Matt Lauer carries water for the reichwing. McSame made experience an issue therefore Obama campaign made Palin's lack of an experience and issue, not the other way round Matt....but he knows that. Biden doesn't fall for Matt's trap wanting to know what he's going to say in the vice presidential debates to give the reichwing a heads up. Matt, "right...right....right....right" when Biden answers irresponsible questions with responsible answers. Matt wants reactionary red meat answers like he gets from the other side, not solutions to America's problems http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/dems-react-to-palin-speec_n_123...
"The first pork-barrel bill that crosses my desk, I'm going to veto it and make the authors of those pork-barrel items famous all over America." John McCain
#14, cobsjo....
Yeah, I noticed it.....it's at least the 2nd time I've heard about U.S. forces encroaching into Pakistan....I think the first time was actually a drone attack, but U.S. led, nonetheless.
How much you want to bet Bin Laden is either killed or captured in the coming weeks before the election?
Every time Cheney goes somewhere, I get nervous about what Darth Vader's intentions are. He's been in Azerbaijan the last 2 days....it does border Russia AND Iran...something is up.
The people of Zimbabwe asked the same things.
McCain = Mugabe
Here’s a policy question: How are the republicans going to reconcile Palin’s snide anti-community organizer remarks with their pro faith-based initiatives stance? WTF does she think faith-based initiatives are?
Here's a quote from the White House website outlining Bush's policies towards faith-based initiatives. (Notice "Faith-based initiatives" and "community groups"
in the same sentence!)
WH WEBSITE: "Faith-based and community groups are the unsung heroes in helping Americans in need. Their compassionate care and neighborly love turn lives around and provide hope where it has been missing. These groups do not provide care because they have to, but because they want to."
here's a link to the WH website page: http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/fbci/guidance/intro.html
And who's going to address America's social problems if not communities of people? Big Government? Irony alert.
EZ @ 13:
Your belief that some invisible Sky-Friend wants more war and misery at the point of US guns and economic policy is quite nauseating. That's exactly what we're going to get with an old geezer already planning the invasion of Iran, and a theocon cheerleader in office. Funny, that's not how I remember the nice Sunday School ladies explaining what God "wants" to us.
Oh, and by the bye: We didn't loose the Pluribus when we went Unum. This nation's getting more diverse by the minute. Take your pathetic hero-worship and Dominionist poison back under your rock. You're about as un-American and un-Christian as they come, you theocratic twit.
Those 3 ladies are about the average age of those at the Grand Old Party's convention but they got the beef, a whole hell of lot of red meat.
The only pork McCain wants to see is the CEO of Exxon's pork.
The repubs have replaced red meat with moose burgers this go around.
I agree with General Jack D. Ripper at #23. Any time Cheney goes anywhere I get nervous. They seem to just be trying to get some shit going over there so the voters will turn to McCain and his "war experience". I'm afraid it's a setup and we will be left with the consequences.
Cheneys to busy trying to Piss off Russia
Here’s a policy question: How are the republicans going to reconcile Palin’s snide anti-community organizer remarks with their pro faith-based initiatives stance? WTF does she think faith-based initiatives are?
Here's a quote from the White House website outlining Bush's policies towards faith-based initiatives. (Notice "Faith-based initiatives" and "community groups"
in the same sentence!)
WH WEBSITE: "Faith-based and community groups are the unsung heroes in helping Americans in need. Their compassionate care and neighborly love turn lives around and provide hope where it has been missing. These groups do not provide care because they have to, but because they want to."
And who's going to address America's social problems if not communities of people? Big Government? Irony alert.
#25 Cubiclegrrl....
Yes, it is very nauseating. Palin is on video clips circulating out there showing her talking to a church group and saying that the war in Iraq is "God's plan."
This makes me very, very sick to my stomach. I don't care if people believe in God or not, but the fact that they believe WAR is "God's plan" is nauseating indeed. My Catholic upbringing didn't teach me that.
But you know who outright says crap like this? Sarah Palin and other evangelical Christian nuts, as do Muslim Islamofascist terrorists.....they all use God and religion to justify killing.
scary NOW you wait if a 72.5yo president mcCain can't serve his entire term let's say as early as June/09
governor sarah palin will step in as commander in chief
obama has been involved/a study of foreign affairs actually on capitol hill. in a time where n.korea is a possible nuclear threat,attacks on pakistan soil,iran nuclear threat?,RUSSIA...has awaken,ukriane,poland,
venzuela,cuba....now all of a sudden this is the person
that replaces dick cheney.
although hypothetical mccain is the age he is.....i'm not
gender and/or age critical......this is the most unique
position available.
i thought it was interesting saying that palin's executive
experience makes her more qualified than mccain.
EZ @ 13:
WTF are you talking about?
The vetting process for the next American Idol is now more extensive then the GOP vetting process for VP of the United States.
Maybe they should just use the text messaging functions on their cellphones and blackberries to pick their candidates.
“This election is not about issues,” said Davis. “This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates.”
Goebbels could not have said it better.
While the MSM gush over Palin(Yesterday they were skeptical, now they are kissing her ass) Chaney is waging his finger, the Dow has plunged 300 points, Georgie is...What is George doing? Anyway, the country is going to Hell and MSM can't get enough of Palin.
Palin is first and foremost an opportunist. She sees a quick trip from veep to president. Say or do whatever is necessary and bide ones time until the inevitable happens to McCain. I mean it could happen too. It could happen any day if they win. The image of that woman sitting in the oval office and attending to the affairs a president is confronted with just scares the hell out of me.
John, you missed it?
DRILL BABY DRILL!
Liberal AND Proud @ 34:
The lower the General IQ of the GOP Candidate. The more popular he or she is.
Did anyone know that McCain was a POW?
pissed@33, I can never figure out where these trolls get their delusions. Faux News strikes again!
StirFry @ 19:
The2 types of republics....Millionaires and fools?
Noah @ 40:
You're kidding me... NO!
Ron @ 38:
Have you been eavesdropping on the Palin's bedroom
Republicans use more research to pick their pets, then they do to pick their representatives.
How many times did they mention Bush? To be fair, isn't it Guilliani's sole function to mention 911 ad nauseum.
44 pissed off patricia Says: Have you been eavesdropping on the Palin’s bedroom
Oh baby POP...you're really pissed today!
44 pissed off patricia Says: Have you been eavesdropping on the Palin’s bedroom
Oh baby POP...you're really pissed today!
“This election is not about issues,” said Davis. “This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates.”
If the last two presidential elections had been about issues, Bush would still be governor of Texas.
Noah @ 40:
Yeah, and we will all be POWs if he wins this election....
dimwit...
Video footage of Sarah Palin's church
Posted by Xeni Jardin, September 4, 2008 7:25 AM |
http://boingboing.hexten.net/2008/09/04/video-footage-of-sar.html
Sarah's got a few preacher problems as well.
pissed off patricia @ 44:
Her daughter's.
pissed off patricia Says: Have you been eavesdropping on the Palin’s bedroom
Boy, you're really pissed today, POP.
pissed off patricia @ 33:
DO NOT FEED.
We'll all be draftees if McCain wins this election.
C'mon BobbyG...admit it...your real name is Tucker.
Where's the beef is right? It's the economy, stupid! Coupled with the failed Iraq war and the GOP has no leg to stand on. I've heard that there's a new drumbeat to bring Bush to justice now by Biden....really going to smoke out this lying gaggle of thugs now. This was a totally masterful touch by Biden today. Since the "reformers" are claiming to be ahast by the failed policies of George Bush (although Little Miss Earmark has indulged herself greatly and taken advantage of that which she now pretends to loathe; and McCain has voted with Bush on these failed policies over 90% of the time, they will have to put their money where their big, sarcastic mouths are. It's $hit or get off the pot time for these lying frauds.
As I see it, they're sunk by their own bull at this point. If they jump on the bandwagon to pacify the Independents who became Independent because the Dems failed to bring Bush to justice since 06, then they lose their base totally (as it is over 50% of their female base is jumping this sinking ship)....If they are being honest that they want to change the MO inWashington (which is basically the corruption caused by Bush's failed policies and downright criminal activities), then their lie is outed immediately. So what is it liars? Take your pick. And, you will not have it both ways this time.
So go on and try to distinguish yourselves from Bush (while snidly and sarcastically spouting how unlike Bush they both are - yeah, right....and I've got some prime swampland to sell you if you're that stupid)......
This will shut these lying reptards up for good now. McCain is no maverick; Palin is no reformer. She's as corrupt and has abused power and continues to do so with her latest little trick of filing ethics charges against herself to try to obstruct justice. Luckily, the trooper filed his own charges which brings it right back to the big court. She's a slimeball extraordinaire - using her vagina to get votes. Guess she's used her veejayjay outside of the marriage, too. Bring it on, Enquirer. Enquiring minds need to know what kind of a fraud/slimebag we're really dealing with her.
McCain IS George Bush's Third Term. Just ask your wallet and your bank account how that's working for you???
Sorry to be OT -- but -- Stewart interviewed The Newt last night.
Ho hum....poor McGambler is up against a ball game tonight. That's what everyone will be watching. He's pathetic when he speaks - can't couple three words together without reading from his script. How sad. This man has serious psychological problems from his torture days. He's a disgrace to observe....that fake smile he got from the beauty queen wannabe and then he bats his eyelashes like a little girl. How cute! (excuse me while I barf).
There's nothing new with McSameOle/SameOle' - the same old lies, the same old spin. His record speaks for itself. He voted with Bush over 90% of the time - this proves he's incapable of leading us out of the bankrupt quagmire which Bush got us into. This shows that he's no Maverick; Hell, he's Bush's "Sidekick". And in terms of lack of judgment and sociopathy, he's even got Bush beat! This man's madness knows no bounds. He's willing to wreck lives to satisfy his ego in pissing contests - Miss Alaska Wannabe is evidence of that. He's certifiably insane and absolutely delusional - no question about it.
# 45 Liberal AND Proud Says: Republicans use more research to pick their pets, then they do to pick their representatives.
Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Kristol, etc. lap dogs all.
Liberal AND Proud @ 56:
Well, I do own a bow tie. But, it's for my tux (elitist that I am).
Can't remember which talking head said this, this morning but one of them said that after hearing palin's speech last night, the republicans now have their own Obama.
I know many of the "haves" and and "have mores" and have been more than acquainted with the moralizing aggressive/hypocritical American Taliban religious right.
The "haves" and "have mores" want the tax cuts to remain in tact. If Obama could ensure that, he'd have a mass exodus of converts. (Although I'm certainly not advocating that). They want the stock market and the economy to rise from the dead, as they've all lost a shit load of money there and continue to do so on a daily basis. The economy is definitely a concern, but tax increases trump the economy.
The American Taliban relibious right only want pro-life, anti-contraception candidates who will appoint like-minded judges who do not "legislate from the bench" and candidates who will increase the entitlements for faith-based initiatives. They're RNC for life, the base, the 25%ers.
Ah, according to the MSM, the ecconomy is great!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26111882/
See, with all our workers in Iraq there is no unemployment. There is also no inflation since we took food, fuel, medical cost, education and a few other things off the list of things we count as mesures of inflation.
In addition, workers income has increased 4 percent on average... since most of them took second jobs.
Is Obama too inexperienced to be president ?
not when you compare him to ALL previous presidents.
http://doggity.blogspot.com/2008/09/politicswhos-more-inexperienced-obam...
Just like Noonan said in her off-mike slip-up yesterday. This is all "political bullshit. It's over! End of story. Now that was the absolute truth and unscripted.
The people of this country deserve much more than John mcCain and Sarah Palin who believes one's foreign policy comes from Alaska being near Russia. Now come on, folks. Are they both delusional and uneducated? Good grief. This one takes the cake. But then again, what can he say? Her personal and political resume is paper thin and there's nothing left there to puff up. Pathetic is the word which comes readily to mind.
Pub Policy? What other Policy is there?
http://tinyurl.com/6jpbxy
Where are the true political patriarchs of this country who can readily see that this is nothing more than McCain's Sitcom?
EZ @ 13:
Wait? No, I can't wait. I can't wait for McCain to promise that our abysmal health care system will get worse, that taxes will go down for people who have so much money they don't know what to do with it, that trade will have no goals other than to enrich the already rich, that farmers will have to sell their family farms to corporations, that aliens be rounded up en masse and habeas corpus denied them in order to protect the border from brown terrorists, that our prisons will be filled to the brim, that big spending will continue for misguided and deadly military ventures even though we put it on our credit card, that Middle Eastern oil will continue to destroy our economy and environment, that the right to choose will be in jeopardy upon the next Supreme Court justice's death, and that gay people will never have equal rights. I just can't wait.
Oh, stop! My sides! Strategy? LOL! Stop!
Here's your package. It's defective. It depends on you to fix it.
Oh, well, if you guarantee it . . . .
There's a difference between having a vision and just seeing things.
So, if the Democrats are not united, then even your all-powerful deity can't unite the country, but John McCain can? Your delusions of grandeur are stupefying.
Your deity is going to unite us with a stick? I would just love for you to elaborate on this one. Show us the depths to which the faithful can sink, and the dissonance of a loving god who does whatever he does with sticks.
Your McBrain's Failin'.
Did you know that George Bush was caught red-handed just two weeks ago attempting to slip into law that contraception would be "illegal"? You can't make this shit up.
Let's face it, whichever candidate offers the voters the most money...wins!
Tax cuts were bush's carrot back in 2000 even though Gore warned it would destroy social security. In 20004 bush's carrot was security from "terrorist" and continuing the tax cuts. So it shouldn't be a surprise that the McCain campaign is squawking that Obama will raise taxes.
Use money and fear and the greedy insecure Americans will follow you anywhere.
Once this convention closes and their cheerleaders go home, it will be "McCain/Palin" who???? The right will be so disgraced by her failure as a parent and her own lascivious affair that they will ditch this charlatan quick.
EZ@13: "... or may be (sic) He will, with a stick."
You conservatives have this strange fixation with sticks, spanking, and punishment, did you know that?
sophya Says:
Ho hum….poor McGambler is up against a ball game tonight. That’s what everyone will be watching. He’s pathetic when he speaks - can’t couple three words together without reading from his script. How sad. This man has serious psychological problems from his torture days. He’s a disgrace to observe….that fake smile he got from the beauty queen wannabe and then he bats his eyelashes like a little girl. How cute! (excuse me while I barf).
There’s nothing new with McSameOle/SameOle’ - the same old lies, the same old spin. His record speaks for itself. He voted with Bush over 90% of the time - this proves he’s incapable of leading us out of the bankrupt quagmire which Bush got us into. This shows that he’s no Maverick; Hell, he’s Bush’s “Sidekick”. And in terms of lack of judgment and sociopathy, he’s even got Bush beat! This man’s madness knows no bounds. He’s willing to wreck lives to satisfy his ego in pissing contests - Miss Alaska Wannabe is evidence of that. He’s certifiably insane and absolutely delusional - no question about it.
Just for you information the NFL moved up the start time as not to conflict with McCain's speech.
sophya Says:
Ho hum….poor McGambler is up against a ball game tonight. That’s what everyone will be watching. He’s pathetic when he speaks - can’t couple three words together without reading from his script. How sad. This man has serious psychological problems from his torture days. He’s a disgrace to observe….that fake smile he got from the beauty queen wannabe and then he bats his eyelashes like a little girl. How cute! (excuse me while I barf).
There’s nothing new with McSameOle/SameOle’ - the same old lies, the same old spin. His record speaks for itself. He voted with Bush over 90% of the time - this proves he’s incapable of leading us out of the bankrupt quagmire which Bush got us into. This shows that he’s no Maverick; Hell, he’s Bush’s “Sidekick”. And in terms of lack of judgment and sociopathy, he’s even got Bush beat! This man’s madness knows no bounds. He’s willing to wreck lives to satisfy his ego in pissing contests - Miss Alaska Wannabe is evidence of that. He’s certifiably insane and absolutely delusional - no question about it.
Just for you information the NFL moved up the start time as not to conflict with McCain's speech.
pissed off patricia Says: Can’t remember which talking head said this, this morning but one of them said that after hearing palin’s speech last night, the republicans now have their own Obama.
That's what low standards with do for you.
Shadowgm Hussein @ 72:
Butt plugs!
What the hell? Someone is saying that the democrats are not united? News flash, the republicans just had a convention and didn't invite the current sitting republican president or vice president. The president could only talk there by video if he kept it under 10 min. Oh, and such enthusiasm!
Why would they talk about how to fix the economy when they don't think it's broken?
Go for the gusto, Biden and make McPappy and his little lady put their money where her big mouth was last night. She reminded me of some petty two-bit mayor drunk on her own power and full of conceit. Her sarcasm only highlighted her level of vindictiveness which we already know from those she fired to get even with. This woman is dangerous with a capital D but everyone will get to realize just how much in the coming weeks as more we don't know about the hypocrisy of Sarah Palin comes forth.
I think Biden's call for criminal charges against Bush is masterful - particularly on the day McCharade accepts the nomination. He will be forced to out himself and he will lose either way he tries to spin it. If he's a maverick, he will smoke his base. If he's not (which we know from his voting record), he will be seen for the lying fraud whom he is. He's cooked and in a corner, I'd say.....how do you like your toast, Mr.Gambler????
sophya @ 69:
It's only been since the mid-20th Century that the Supreme Court held that contraception was an unenumerated, substantive due process right.
Conservatives have been attacking "judicial activism" ever since.
Frankly, the culture wars have developed since the Warren Court took away what the theocrats saw as their right to enforce their sexual mores on everyone else. They've been fighting back ever since. Only now, they no longer consider it a "State's Rights" issue. Because they know the better way to go about it is to have the federal government in the hands of Know-Nothings like Bush and Palin, who will do their bidding.
sophya @ 71:
I wouldn't bet on it.
sophya @ 69:
Get outta tha city!!!
Are you for real?
These Neo-Cons are insane. Pure, uncut crazy.
Sharon: I believe we can assume that they are intentionally ignorant. Filthy rich and not feeling the pinch without an ounce of empathy for their fellow man who is suffering greatly due to their failed policies. So they get slammed on both counts on that one.
RayC @ 73:
Figures...is it on Fox Sports?
http://www.justmoreofthesame.com/
#82 check the archives. This is absolute truth. He was trying to slip into a bill (just like his signing statements) that contraception would become "illegal". I kid you not. It was posted or in the newspaper about two weeks ago......TP, do you have this in your archives by any chance?
#57, Sophya.....I hope you're right about this, Sophya. Let's see McCain and those repugs expose Bush and his administration and the crimes these thugs have committed.