jeffrey feldman over at "frameshop" has some interesting things to say about the bailout. go read the full post but here's a clip:

I draw attention to this basic dynamic--this new 'era' emerging in the guise of the bailout--because I do not think this level of change is being discussed in the media at all. Instead of discussing the morality of reversing the flow of public finds from public to private hands, and from fundamental to capital crisis, we have been forced to discuss the theater of campaigning.

http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2008/09/frameshop-bailo.htm...

And the Clay Aiken Pissyfit Award goes to...

It seems pretty clear that Lindsey Graham is drunk here on Fox. His eye is closed tight in response to the bright light and seems to have been up very late (on a binge?) last evening and probably has alot of booze still left in his blood stream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o

Utube gets Obama - its brillant

Also, I guess trying to keep up with the lies and backdoor tactics will wear a person out. If he's "tired" this early in the debate season, we should keep that in mind later on if Graham decides to run for a higher office. I heard McCain's comments during the start of the debate that he, too, was tired, that he's been involved with traveling to save the U.S. financial problem. Hummmm... walking and chewing gum to not seem to be his strongest suit, either.

mark gasp @ 5:

It seems pretty clear that Lindsey Graham is drunk here on Fox. His eye is closed tight in response to the bright light and seems to have been up very late (on a binge?) last evening and probably has alot of booze still left in his blood stream.

Ambien maybe, the scourge of DC according to some Hill insiders.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
This is a good site for polling information. PA has gone from neutral to weak Democrat. OH and FL are still weak Republican.

Last chance to register to vote is probably this week.
https://www.voteforchange.com/index_obama.php

Ahh just can't spin this no more, Chris. Ain't got nuthin' left.

proofreading is for sissies... so here goes ~

"I can just see Gilda RaDNer whining..." (:>

Lindsey Graham is a disgusting slimeball of the first order. When I see him, I think of Poe's M. Valdemar and expect him to start literally melting at any moment.

John Kerry must be hard up for cash to be on Fox.

New national poll released in the last few minutes...

Gallup: OBAMA 50% - McCain 42%

Obama reached an eight-point lead or higher twice before, once after his highly publicized foreign tour to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Europe in July, and once after the Democratic National Convention.

txlvn @ 16:

Ferrofluid @ #4:

It will be interesting how the McCain camp spins that one. Let the whining begin!! I just know Bay Buchanan will be dissecting every Biden comment and argument into some sort of "attack" on poor little cheerleader. I must set up my Tivo NOW!! This debate should be fodder for SNL, Bill Maher, and every thinking, voting American.....

Everybody and their dog knows Palin is dripping wet behind the ears, and just maybe fit to be a mayor of a small town but not much else.
Of course it like kicking a puppy, precisely why WcCain and his crew of crooks chose her in the first place.

John Kerry must be hard up for cash to be on Fox.

Rupert Murdoch ain't no dummy. Every since Obama's poll numbers went up Fox has been hedging their bets and moving (ever so slightly) to the center. Still, I was disappointed to see him there. It just allows Fox the opportunity to say that they are balanced, which of course they are not.

Why can't you include a little more of the interview? Stopping the clip where you did is just annoying!

". . . flaking [sic] for McCain. . ." has to be one of the best typos of the year. If anyone is going to start flaking out (not that we could ever use the word "out" to describe the Senator from South Carolina), it will be Graham on November 5. His flakking will come home to roost and he can once again return to his post as agent of reaction and nullification.

It appears that McCain's pathetic performance in Oxford has given Miss Lindsey the vapors.

New Gallup: Obama leads by 8 (50-42).

Thats the best showing since the dem convention.

You know what... My initial verdict on the debate was that it was a draw, and was quite pissed off at Obama for not hammering McCain more, especially for the GI Bill. Jim Lehrer, in particular, made my blood boil. His moderating was disgraceful all night. He gave McCain the last word on every subject.

I was convinced independents/undecideds would either sit on the fence or give McCain a slight edge, and thus he would be decalred the winner by default by the MSM. But to my utter surprise, I and a lot of liberals were wrong. Independent voters overwhelmingly declared Obama the winner. Obama's non-combative and overly classy approach actually paid off for once.

Question ............
Why doesn't Lindsey Graham come out of the closet?
Barney Frank did and it didn't hurt him, as a matter of fact it gave him more credibility.
We all know that Lindsey is the SC Queen .... give it up Lindsey.

PorridgeGun @ 40:

Today's other national tracking polls:

Rasmussen: OBAMA 50% - McCain 44%

Hotline/FD: OBAMA 47% - McCain 42%

Research 2000: OBAMA 50% - McCain 43%

Must be why our usual right-wing poll trolls are so quiet today.

after watching the debate, i thought obama did well but i thought mccain did better. its funny how 2 people can look at the same thing and see it differently. my thoughts are only the best for america now, not for me but the whole nation, im not happy with the bail out, we have a dem congress how come dems or rep, didnt see this comming, wheres george on all of this, we have a chrisis on our hands, so i want the guy who can handle this best so far its mccain,,, the records show why,,, if im wrong tell me why...im looking for the truth,,,

Looks as though this lil' ol' collapse of our financial market has been
a slight inconvenience to Lindsey's beauty sleep regemine.

While the middle class has gone up in flames these past eight years,
the GOP congress is p.o'd about the loss of a few vacation days as a result of
this collapse.

The Fundamentally Strong Rusty Shackleford @ 41:

PorridgeGun @ 40:

Today's other national tracking polls:

Rasmussen: OBAMA 50% - McCain 44%

Hotline/FD: OBAMA 47% - McCain 42%

Research 2000: OBAMA 50% - McCain 43%

Must be why our usual right-wing poll trolls are so quiet today.

Know what really warms my cockles? It's that if Obama gets in a tight spot, he can ask Colin Powell and Chuck Hagel to endorse him and that will soldify his support among swing voters.

Not to mention it'll also change the media narrative.

Of course, that's if either of them are endorsing. Powell said he's waiting until after the debates. Well, the foreign policy debate has more or less been wrapped up, so there's not much left for him to decide.

mark in fla @ 43:

after watching the debate, i thought obama did well but i thought mccain did better. its funny how 2 people can look at the same thing and see it differently. my thoughts are only the best for america now, not for me but the whole nation, im not happy with the bail out, we have a dem congress how come dems or rep, didnt see this comming, wheres george on all of this, we have a chrisis on our hands, so i want the guy who can handle this best so far its mccain,,, the records show why,,, if im wrong tell me why...im looking for the truth,,,

Yo Mark -
Because McCain is surrounded by "Crooks and Liars" :

A Freddie Mac Money Trail Catches Up With McCain
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218/output/print
For McCain and Team, a Host of Ties to Gambling
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?hp=&pa...

It would also be sweet if the Obama campaign put the foot on the gas and let BIDEN be BIDEN on Thursday night. If he's prepped and disiplined, there's no reason why he shouldn't have the freedom to have some fun at the expense of McCain and Palin.

To this day, it irritates me that when Cheney lied to John Edwards face about never meeting him before the VP debate. Edwards didn't call him on it. He had Cheney in his crosshairs, but for whatever reason, he didn't pull the trigger. For me it was one of the defining moments in the campaign, and certainly for Edwards.

Hypocritical fools!
Obama is not ready to lead, but of course Sarah Palin is!
Contemptible position at best.
Sure did love how beat down Mr. Graham was in voice, verbage, and body language
:D

I think it is sinking in to Lindsay that McCain is not smart enough. Running a Presidential Campaign is a chess game and McCain is playing checkers. McCain keeps trying to jump the closest checker. Obama is playing strategic chess and is three moves ahead at all times. Lindsay may be having buyers remorse that he hitched himself to McCain so publicly. Lieberman has certainly burned his bridges. After the election, these two aren't going to have any influence left.

masha @ 51:

we should now brac ourselves for the next series of "tactics" of the mccain campaign.

in sights at the moment is the impending (?) wedding of bristol palin and her redneck impregnator.

watch out for deadly oneliners from palin in thursday's debate. she's good at that. let's hope (and raise expectations that) people will pay attention to the content and not get blown away by snide remarks like they did during the convention. the media is already lowering expectations and we shouldnt let them. we have to keep on pounding the media to do its job in reporting on palin's record. there's a lot that's just coming through that's unpalatable. the media has also not reported on what is going on in alaska--protests and the mccain campaign running the state.

the repubs are going to get vicious and ugly. they will do ANYTHING to win.

we have to arm ourselves with information and hold strong.

masha, this is spot on. But, I'd like to say that we're already seeing the nasty side of the Republicans. There are several examples. They're continuing the attack ads, for one. McCain's disdain for Obama during the debates, is another. The initial "stoppage" of the campaign is yet another. The continual hiding of Sarah Palin is yet another dirty tactic to subvert this election.

All in all, they've been nasty all along.

I'm just worried that there will be some people who are going to write off that behavior and give McCain the benefit of the doubt. If they do that, we're in trouble.

theWalrus @ 27:

John Kerry must be hard up for cash to be on Fox.

Rupert Murdoch ain't no dummy. Every since Obama's poll numbers went up Fox has been hedging their bets and moving (ever so slightly) to the center. Still, I was disappointed to see him there. It just allows Fox the opportunity to say that they are balanced, which of course they are not.

For once I disagree. After the past few days, EVEN I would go on FOX Propaganda Network.

Also, you're spot on about Rupert Murdoch. When it was beginning to look like Tony Blair would win the 1997 General Election, his newpapers and media outlets threw their support behind New Labour. At least in Britain, Murdoch always hedges his bets.

That won't happen with Obama though. FOX has established itself as GOP News. Their wingnut audience would boycott if they stopped smearing Obama for a second. Chris Wallace and O'Reilly's interview with Obama is as good as it's gonna get - at least in terms of their warped version of fairness.

Looks like the little b*tch got beaten with a Bible.

Waaaa....

56 The Very Bitter Ceci Hussein Says:

masha, this is spot on. But, I’d like to say that we’re already seeing the nasty side of the Republicans. There are several examples. They’re continuing the attack ads, for one. McCain’s disdain for Obama during the debates, is another. The initial “stoppage” of the campaign is yet another. The continual hiding of Sarah Palin is yet another dirty tactic to subvert this election.

All in all, they’ve been nasty all along.

I’m just worried that there will be some people who are going to write off that behavior and give McCain the benefit of the doubt. If they do that, we’re in trouble.
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The mccain campaign knows what they are currently doing will not (and has not) turned the tide for mccain. so what's scary is the only way they can turn the tide is to do something out of their usual box, something bigger and bolder that will push the american people to mccain. they know the debates will not do it. obama is too cool a customer to succumb to mccains attacks. in fact, i submit that it was obama early on who was trying to subtlely bait mccain which made the latter angry throughout the rest of the debate.

that's why the bristol wedding is very important. it will distract the rest of the country and bring out warm positive feelings for palin as the country is about to turn on her. with preparations and the actual wedding probably occupying the narrative for at least a week, the repubs can do something underhanded to get back in the game. something in the nature of national security. i'm still not convinced that georgia was not played to benefit mccain. i hope i'm wrong but my read of the republicans is they want to win NO MATTER WHAT even if it's detrimental to u.s. interest.

I know you are tired, Lindsey. Tired of carrying that other weight around on your shoulders. I promise you'll feel much better if you just let it go. Who cares what the people in SC will think? You're doing a good job in the senate, right? That's all that matters.

Joseph @ 66:

What Did You Expect From Graham

If Barack Obama is the most liberal senator in the Senate, Linsey Graham is in the running for the most racist. He reminds me of "freedom of speech" run wild. Every time he speaks, he comes close to saying something offensive but manages to come short.

I call representatives like Graham "dido" senators. A "dido" senator will second the motion on every right-wing extreme policy floating through our government. In the video, he was not just tired; he was also angry he had to say something positive about a black person. Believe me that hurt him most.

It is sad; we have a "over in the corner" crowd of racist lawmakers in the senate and congress. Yes, in the year 2008, so many years past civil rights era, we still have this "over in the corner" section influencing our laws, our issues, and our representation to the most powerful offices in our government. It is time for a change.

I think about Obama running very well on this issue of change. I think it is about time we as voters step up to the plate and change the people who run our government at the congressional, senate and executive level. We need to change the things we can when there is advantage to it. It is a clear advantage to move past our racist past; it has been for a very long time.

Joseph

Thank you. Smartly said. The problem is that people are too superficial and fearful at times.

That's why I say that this election is going to be one of bravery and conscience.

Looks like Gramm's been trying to drown his sorrows, puffy faced, swollen eyes, pale, hair all wet like he needed to clean up fast.

The Old Queen is tired cuz he was on his kness at some glory hole all Saturday night, looking for more meat. Wonder if they use crystal meth where he goes?

(Signed: a gay guy, that knows what goes on.)

Maybe Graham is tired of trying to cover for the Bush administration. Pretending torture isn't torture takes some energy.

Lindsey Graham's political days are numbered. The white house tumors will be removed. If not sooner, later.

AMERICA is taking note.

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Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo @ 54:

The Obama campaign needs to hit hard on a couple topics.

First they need to say "McCain wants to lower taxes for people making $5,000,000,000 (five Million dollars) a year. It is true and it sounds incredible. Why would anybody want to lower taxes on people making $5,000,000,000? Shit don't they have enough already? Joe and Betty Winebox/Sixpack do not understand this.

Second: Obama needs to let Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox know that McCain wants to tax their employer provided health insurance. THIS IS HUGE. If Joe is making $40,000 a year and he gets health insurance he will be taxed at $62,000 a year. Health insurance being values at $1,000 a month - $12,000 a year. Now id Joe and Betty are married and they each work and they each get health benefits at their respective jobs they will be taxed for an extra $24,000 in income per year. The general public do not know this because they have not been told. Obama needs to say this often often often often often often often often often often and LOUD LOUD LOUD.

Please pass this along so that the Obama campaign sees it somewhere.

Betty Winebox? Yikes...for some reason, I hope that doesn't catch on as a generic name for our female citizenry. I hope Joe Sixpack sobers up long enough to find a new girlfriend.

Remember friends, Drinking and Voting don't mix. Remember what happened last time!

McBush was heard in the background saying:

"Hey, Lindsey...where's my f@#king sandwhich you CUNT!!!"