Shorter House GOP: We killed the bailout bill because Pelosi hurt our feelings
By SilentPatriot Sunday Sep 28, 2008 2:45pm
What a bunch of WATB. The House GOP "Leadership" addressed the media just now after the bailout bill failed and pointed their fingers at Nancy Pelosi for giving a speech that upset them. The speech hurt them so much that it forced them to sink the bill and now the market is down more than 600 points. Why are you so mean, Nancy? Don't you know Boehner is a really sensitive guy?
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"I believe we could have gotten there today if it weren't for Speaker Pelosi's partisan speech."
So you're willing to kill the bill and let the market plunge 600 points because Nancy gave a mean speech? Wow.
Eric Cantor is particularly hysterical. It looks like he wants to cry. Nancy is so mean!
Barney Frank sums it up best:
"In the sphere of numerology the number of Republicans who ignore what's best for the country because of a speech turns out to be exactly the number of Republicans we need to pass the vote. "
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Here we go, Pelosi and crowd are being played by these Repugs. Watch Dems lose majority because of this.
Freaking crybabies.
Free Money! Come and get it!
Probably a lot of Republicans spent the weekend thinking how they might benefit from this collapse, (buying up bankrupt companies) add that to the fact that they will have face the voters in a few weeks. The system works!
Shorter GOP: "Look what you made me do!"
If Boehner, et al, truly believed that this plan was the best for America and Pelosi's speech deterred them from voting for it, they should be run out of not only the government, but the country.
These bullies have been hammering the Dems for years on their patriotism and never, ever miss a chance to climb upon their high horse.
If they fundamentally disagreed with the bailout bill because they felt it was in the best interests of the country, fine, but to say that a speech by the Speaker killed the bill is beyond spineless.
At what point does country come before party for these people?
The only thing missing from photo above was a crybaby FAKE tears on BONER's red face.
Throw the bums out!
This is what I have come to expect from Republicans. No ideas, just bickering. They need a severe spanking this November.
Politics as usual for the repugs. They will blame the failure on the democratic majority to cover their own incompetence and guilt. This is a problem created by their philosophy over the past eight years, at least. They are running away from the bill that their leader, Dubya Bush, is asking for because they do not want to be responsible on election day. I have news for them. If they have (R) after their name, they better put the country before their election hopes because chance are they are history and need to be looking for a day job.
She started it!
That Pelosi was responsible for this is pure bull....! According to Ed Henry of CNN she mentioned the word Republican once in her speech, and that was to speak of efforts to reach across the isle. They voted against it because it is an election year and the bailout had 'Bush' written all over it. This was his bailout bill to help his buddies. They knew they would be out on their butts if they support anything he wants weeks before the election. Like there role models, Bush and his twin McInsane, these Rethuglicans will lie about everything. May they all roast.
Chuck Todd looked at which Republicans voted against it and most of them are running for reelection.
They dumped their party's wishes for the good of their own campaigns. They were hearing from the public, potential voters, and the public was mad as hell. These republicans want no association with bush right now and who could blame them. Nancy simply pointed out in her speech what the bush administration has done and how it got us where we are today.
"Boner" can whine all he wants, but it wasn't Nancy who scared his folks, it was the SOB sitting in the oval office.
As if they have any.
Arrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh.
It seems increasingly amusing that when the R's make mistakes and something bad happens because of it, they just go Ballistic if the Truth is told about their misdeeds.
It's like watching a bunch of damn grade school kids fighting in the playground.
Boehner and Blunt must have been crybabies all the lives.
There is a saying here in Thailand for this kind of thing Grow-up and quite crying! (oh wait. maybe that is from somewhere else.)
No feelings. No heart. No brain. No shame.
Full of shit.
baby jesus loves watching all this from above
Whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh........ i have a pooopie diaper
The Republicans have done the Dems a favor by voting this down. Now the Dems should do the sensible thing--chuck the President Bush/Secretary Paulson plan and work on a bailout/stimulus package that will help ordinary people.
Wait a minute - I thought that any reasonable person wants this heist to fail. But that said, I've got to admit that the Republicans have played this very well indeed - making Pelosi and the Democrats look like utter fools. The Dems voted FOR this travesty 141-94, the Republicans AGAINST 65-133. The only thing is that they played it a little too fine. Twelve more votes and it would have passed, and the Democrats would have shouldered the blame - for something that primarily benefits the Republican's corporate masters.
I'm seeing this as KKKarl Rove's piece de resistance. I bet they just retained three or four seats that they would have lost on this play. And if another vote is taken, you can bet another dozen Repukes will 'reluctantly' change their votes to enable passage. This is a political train wreck for the Dimocrats.
I'm glad the Republicans didn't vote for this crap.. I wish the Democrats would stand up to Bush, at least once....
now we see who the 'whiners' really are. don't call/identify these people as GOP they want that. it's
part of the separation away from republican BUSH.
the democrats brought 2/3 of their membership to
approve the 'bailout'....the democrats did their job
after having this proposal shoved down our throats.
the media keeps playing the DOW plenty of drama.
blaming pelosi is ridiculous......mccain didn't bring
the conservative faction of the republican party together. obama needs to rub this in that
mccain isn't helping.
I'm John Boner and I approve this crybaby message!
Another idiot from Ohio, I mean "medieval times". That state needs a nuke..
blaming a speech on the bill not passing??? There is no way this will have an adverse effect on Dems. This makes repubs look like real cry babies!!! They are such a joke! I'm investing in Kimberly Clark becuase there will be LOTS of crying in November.
This is yet more of the emperors stripping away their clothes. These people could care less about accepting any responsibility for this crisis. Their petty short-term political interests still outweigh their interest in what is right for the country - and this is a big damn deal. And, unfortunately, it is so complex that I guarantee you they have no real clue what is going on.
No this is not a perfect proposal. Not close. To get passed and enacted, it must - by definition - be a compromise that gains the support from a broad set of competing interests. We may actually hate parts of it but to do nothing is a risk far too big to take. I know we all have our own ideas and want to use this as a means of punishing some individuals and groups who have been responsible for the mess while feathering their own nests. When we promote our own ideas, however, we do not have to deal with the real issue of "what if we are wrong?".
The world's financial system needs someone to cram something in the hole in the dike and to do it now. We can, and must, follow-up with policies, laws, and oversight to assure that the casino never opens again. We can, and must, conduct legal investigations to see that anyone who has been engaged in fraud and other illegal practices is caught, tried, and sentenced.
This is not a time for any of us to follow the lead of these pettycrat Republicans and work to halt this bill for some narrow ideological or personal reason. Already, there are millions of Americans who are living on pension income or who have all their life savings tied up in 401Ks that have seen these assets radically diminished. These are the folks we should be concerned about right now. Screw the ultra-wealthy robber barons. We'll get to them later.
Can we get on record exactly which republicans did not vote for this because of the speech. You know, like, NAME NAMES????
GOOD!!! All of us on the bottom half of this fallout are going to pay out the nose anyway. Hyperinflation is here, caused by the Fed's printing of so-called "money" out of thin air for years and years. We were going to see $20 loaves of bread, 85% tax rates and tent cities no matter what they do today. I say, if THEY broke it, THEY buy it!!! No bail out!!! Our children will be paying this off for years to come so the Wall Street jerks can sail around the world in their yachts drinking chapaign singing "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me".
My Congressman, who is a Democrat, voted for this bailout.. So he will not be getting my vote in a few months to get re-elected..
I'm so pissed off about this bill. A majority of Dems voted for this criminal giveaway to Wall Street, and the Repubs didn't support it only because they were afraid for their jobs. Meaning, of course, that if it weren't an election year, the giveaway would have sailed through Congress and into the pockets of the elite. They could have just ignored their constituents, the way both sides usually do. What do we have to do to get our government back?
Here's a list of who voted for and against..
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml
Kind of reminds you of Gingrich shutting down the government because was in a snit about having to sit in the back or Air Force 1.
These fucks are truly unbelievable! They are clearly much more concerned with appearing heroic and stealing credit for this shit than anything else. Hey Repukes, people want solutions, ASAP!! Blame gaming simply will not work this time.
Pelosi makes a partisan speech (So?) and this justifies the so-called "bi-partisan" Republicans to turn partisan and vote against the bill? They care more about themselves than they do the Country.
These idiots are acting like children (all of them). They need to get another job. They are NOT serving the country's interests.
Bobo @ 19:
YES! But do they have the common sense to do the right thing?
sound like whining to me.
Chris Matthews hit the nail on the head with Rep Cantor. He ripped him up.
Rep Cantor is one of the Republicans trying to rip off his Republican uniform and run home and act like he never voted for deregulation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgq3UFVi2s8
Chris Matthews ask Cantor "Is the Republican Party responsible for the economic policies of this country right now"
Cantor dances
Chris Matthews "I have never in my life seen a party run from its own record like the Rebublican's have"
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REP TRENT FRANKS JUST SPEWED THE MOST VILE LIES ON THE FLOOR ABOUT IRAN. The warmongers want to attack Iran before this administration is out.
Why care about the blame? This crap shouldnt have even gotten to a vote in the first place.. Pelosi says they took away golden parachutes for executives, which is a lie..
Why in the hell are you people taking up for democrats who voted for this ????
Keep hanging this albatross on GOP necks... and remember that they ARE WATBs.
Who are these dickheads anyway?
What a bunch of crybabies! I don't care what the reason, I for one am glad that the bill didn't pass. I hope we get nothing done until after the elections.
You cannot trust anything put out by any of these whiners in the retard party.
You know you cannot trust bush and this bill has bush fingerprints all over it.
I say a great day to be an American! It really sucks if you are a republican and I think that is great also. Everytime I see a republican cry it make me feel gooood!
Boehner?!?
Crying?!?!
It's like Deja vu all over again...
The people who voted against this don't really have to worry do they; they're set for life. If everything tanks tomorrow and we're all on bread lines, they'll be safe in Ivory Towers drinking champagne and laughing at the people not as lucky as them. So what is it that they want: total economic collapse or a job after election day? I know I'd like to have a job after election day, wouldn't you? When I find out how my representatives voted, I'll help them with that decision, you bet.
We Dems hate on Pelosi (trust me I do this as well) but damn... she looks like a Profile in Courage compared to these WATBs.
I got through about halfway thru the video before the upchuck factor cut in. As Popeye so eloquently put it, "I can't stands no more."
They're all so eagerly patting each other on the back at the great job they did, first fucking up the economy since Reagan and Gingrich and now, the coup de gras.
Ya gotta admit, you never saw a finer collection of walking, talking assholes.
The choice for America is very clear.
there are representatives up for re-election that were
never going to vote for this bailout. republicans
wanted democrats to take full voting responsibilty.
blaming pelosi after seeing the republican BUSH
administration shove this down our throats.
mccain didn't do shit....NOW trying to accuse obama
unbelievable. pelosi thought she had the votes. they're
saving their re-election hopes.....period.
Left&Left @ 32:
and if they can't take the grownup adult stuff, get the hell outta the game! What a bunch of effin' whiny babies!
It may be well and good that the bill failed, but to say you voted against it because of a speech?
call them republicans NOT GOP.
Looks like we need to add Eric Cantor to the list of Patrick McHenry's closeted all-star attack dogs. I wondered when they were going to find a replacement for Mark Foley.
pissed off patricia @ 12:
Yes......agree entirely!!! Oh, and BONER..........CRYme a river. Faker.
This is sick.. You all who are falling for the blame game, who just want to point fingers at the other side are just as bad as you say the other side is..
They stripped the bill of everything that would have helped the little guy. All of you seem to believe Bush AGAIN when he gave the doom and gloom speech...
Whatever the reason is it didn't pass, Im glad. Bush and the Democrats were on the same side too! Wake up people.
I don't care why the bill was defeated. I'm just glad it was.
But it's not over. They'll keep trying to jam it through.
This bail-out bill is a SCAM!
It is bush's farewell attempt at stealing everything he can from future American generations.
This guy is a known liar. Why do you trust him now? Is it because you're so afraid? That's what they want.
The dems are so afraid they will jump on bush's bandwagon again, and again, and again. They never learn.
America, land of the free, and home of the brave. Those are words that are no longer true.
See, just as I said in the past, republicans are undercover punks.
not supporting a bill because of a speech? not exactly country first. This is an opportunity for the MSM to really nail the hypocrisy of boehner and mccain. gee, i wonder if boehner will have to give up his country club membership. probably not, it's probably paid for by a lobbyist anyway.
As it pains me to say this, I am very proud of Congressman Gresham Barrett (R) for voting against this piece of garbage.
MikeC @ 21:
I'm glad the Republicans didn't vote for this crap.. I wish the Democrats would stand up to Bush, at least once...
I agree with you completely Mike...I am disappointed in all the politicians that voted for this bail out-this plan is garbage and I wish ALL the dems had stood up to Bush and come up with a better plan. Paulson has no business having ANY say in ANY of this and if any of you read this bail out you should be ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to be BUSH WHACKED! This bill DOES allow CURRENT GOLDEN PARASHOOTS, It DOES allow for EXCESSIVE COMPENSATION, IT IS A BULLSHIT BILL!!
Can anyone remember when these assholes even mentioned 'The American People'? This is the first time I had heard it in years! That in itself says a lot, even it is a disgusting, oozing stream of bile coming out of their mouths.
Our country just got Boehned.
Boner would throw his mama under a bus if it could make Pelosi look bad...
Pelosi is useless! - Just about as useless as the GOP'ers who brought upon this economic disaster!
You can be sure that economic standards dumb down when you give out so many loans to those with bad credit.
Now the DOW is down 777- points!
Gotta love the GOP. They've run EVERYTHING for 6 of the past 8 years—and still control the White House. Yet this is somehow morphing into a Democratic failure.
Where is this press release he's talking about where Pelosi is calling Republicans unpatriotic? Not only is he whining, he's whining about something imaginary.
1/20/09, hopefully the greatest day ever.
bilhelm-X @ 23:
I thought there was no violence here at C and L
Hey Kucinich is from Ohio so am I
Read my new book after you elect me as President:
How I Saved The U.S. Economy or The DemocRATic Party conspiracy to enslave working 'Mericans.
Criminally As Always,
John McCain
P.S.: I've advised Cindy to increase her dose of Percocet.
baby jesus @ 17:
Sure it's fun for you. The baby jesus isn't watching his retirement money swirl the toilet for the last time. Speaking of which, could you maybe cause money to rain on my house real soon?
Seems to me that we have the words of only some pretty unreliable characters that defeating this travesty was a bad idea...
Matt Yglesias's point is well taken:
Indictment coming! Well Mr. Obama should have been vetted by the msm. Mr. Rezko is cooperating with the feds and turning on the messiah as well as the Gov. of Illinois. You heard it first from me, a little birdie told me this will happen in the next few weeks! Maybe now people will realize why Bill Clinton has been so smug the last few weeks.
djl @ 55:
Total bullshit indeed. Its more trickle down crap. Pelosi says they took out the 'golden parachutes' which is a lie. Theyre still there. They stripped the bill of everything that would help the little guy, only the corporations would have benefited.
Bush pretty much demanded $700billion, what do the Democrats do? They try to authorize $750 billion!
So many people here want to be loyal to their party that they don't even see their party is trying to screw them over!
This is just an act of scapegoating on the Republicans part. I wouldn't be surprised if this entire Rovian exercise is mainly to sway folks to vote for McCain.
I also wonder how much Republican dollars are flowing in the coffers of these third parties as well in order to convince the independents not to vote for the Democrats.
Kathleen @ 62:
I'm from Ohio, and I agree. nuke it. it will be a heroic sacrifice for the good of humanity.
Personally, I think Pelosi was stupid for giving a speech like that -- this "agreement" was on shaky ground, at best The Republicans were just WAITING for a reason to kill this thing, and her speech gave them an excuse (albeit, a pathetic excuse) to do it. She should have known better.
Which Simpson character was based on him:
Principal Skinner or Reverend Lovejoy ..?
I cant quite tell ...
billy @ 66:
can you share your sources? indictment for who? obama implicated how?
The reality is, that the Republicans just might have inadvertently saved the Democratic party from going down the tubes with them. This bailout was going to fail because it was trading OUR money for the investors money. Bailing out banks won't stop their failures if they have billions in bad investments, and it won't make them put loans out because you need consumers with cash in a marketplace for that.
The dollar got stronger, because they didn't have to print more money which would be a tax on you.
Really, I'm dancing with glee. This is the best news in a month. If there is a collapse, it will be from the derivatives market. Wall Street is too corrupt and dishonest right now to get any more money from other countries -- much less the American taxpayer. Throwing good money after bad would just give these guys more gold in their parachutes.
woody, tokin librul @ 65:
Seems to me that we have the words of only some pretty unreliable characters that defeating this travesty was a bad idea...
Matt Yglesias's point is well taken:
Yo Woody, I'd recommend you read Glenn Greenwald's post at Salon:
(2) Those who created the crisis, were wrong about everything, drive the process. Experts who dissent from the prevailing Washington orthodoxy, particularly ones who were presciently warning about what was happening, are simply ignored -- systematically excluded from the process. Professor Nouriel Roubini:
It is pathetic that Congress did not consult any of the many professional economists that have presented -- many on the RGE Monitor Finance blog forum -- alternative plans that were more fair and efficient and less costly ways to resolve this crisis.
Last week, Hank Paulson -- who bears responsibility for the crisis in numerous ways -- demanded that $700 billion be transferred to him in order to purchase toxic assets from his Wall St. friends, and while there was much howling of outrage in many quarters, no other framework was ever considered.
UPDATE: Amazingly, the House just rejected the bailout, sending the Dow plummeting by more than 500 points. According to Kagro:
The bill is defeated. 205-228 -- there was a last, and I mean really last, minute switcher. A Dem, switching from yea to nay. Could have been a yea voter looking to move to reconsider. Partisan breakdown: 140 Dems for, 95 against, and 65 Rs for, 133 against.
The economy and the markets are clearly in severe distress, and some form of Government action is needed. I don't think anyone denies that. But this was the wrong deal, and in terms of market confidence and stability, there's probably nothing worse than announcing so definitively -- again -- that a deal has been agreed to, only for it to be defeated. Our political leaders are as inept as they are corrupt.
This was a set-up from the beginning. Some of the Democrats were probably in on it.
It was wrong to support this bill in the first place, and even if it passed, Republicans would've blamed the Democrats for not listening to the tax payers. YOU CAN'T WIN!
All this bull$hit is happening right in front of our eyes and there's nothing we can do about it.
America is history.
Boner ...... Boo Farking Hoo.
He's up for Re-Election this year, So is the (closeted) Queen of South Carolina and Lie-berman
Scott @ 70:
maybe she DID know better. maybe the dems did it on purpose to bait these republicans and hold them accountable, at the same time allowing the dems to not be "blamed" for an unpopular bailout.
Those self serving pieces of poo. It is all about them.
from the article:
"So you’re willing to kill the bill and let the market plunge 600 points because Nancy gave a mean speech? Wow."
This is retarded, the markets are going to go down regardless.. Why did they go up so fast in the first place? Because of the fraud that caused this mess. They have to go down in short term. The bill not passing is not why the market goes down..
Did Boner cry again?
Sounds like the Newt Gingrich defense that they made him sit at the back of the airplane so he made the country pay for his widow hurt feewings.
My democratic representative vote against this! And he is progressive of Oregon. I think the Repub did us a favor. But I also think the Democrats that did vote for this. did so out of haste. Stop panicking, and get your composure, we are just inches away from election. Bush has no intention of the bill passing as he sent a brigade from Iraq for riot training for October into the USA. The economy has to collapse in order to create panic with the public in order to get martial law for him to stay in power. Not everyone had a chance to read the new bill thoroughly to even get a decent passing. But look how quickly the repubs have turn this around to bash the Democrats!!!! do you not think the Bailout Bill smell funny??? I haven't read the Bill yet and already it has a partisan attack connected with the talking point.
rick street @ 69:
Michigan here. Don't nuke 'em, they are too close.
Maybe some selective concrete would do.
rick street @ 77:
You are giving WAY too much credit to the Democratic party! :)
I am amused by the ineptness of the GOP. Why do they hate America?
Come on -- you can't be unhappy this bill went down in flames:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/congressional-charade-changes-in....
Looks like Republicans did the right thing -- for the wrong reasons, of course, but at this point you have to take it...
I thought McCain parachuted in and got all his folks wearing the same yoke. Seems that didn't work out the way John claimed it did.
I think this is really what Boner is whining about. It was all lined up that the republicans would march down and vote for the bill just as McCain instructed. Now some of them strayed off the path and McCain is no longer seen as the strong leader he was supposed to have been viewed as. Some put their own political career ahead of McCain's political career.
MikeC @ 79:
The markets are going down becuase of all the fear monger Bush has been doing. Why wouldn't people pull their money out of the stock market when the President is yelling fire in a crowded theater. This is a completely engineered crisis.
The Boner and his crocodile tears…. If the Repukes are going to play this game with the taxpayers’ money and livelihood, then the Dems should just take control, rip up the original proposal and make their own, adding the oversight and regulation, REALLY getting rid of any golden parachutes, heck, throw in some national health care, etc., etc. Otherwise, let this false version of a “free market” correct itself. The Wall Street pigs made their beds, now sleep in it.
As the saying goes, republicans will cut themselves just to watch someone bleed. They can't help it, it's what they do. What I particularly love about it is that they just hung their presidential candidate out to dry in the process. D'ya think any of them even noticed?
If I were McCain I'd be having a sh*t hemorrhage about now.
bilhelm-X @ 23: