Following Karl Rove’s appearance this morning on “Meet The Press” David Gregory (who is involved in the Plame scandal. More on that later.) held a round table discussion which included former Time Magazine reporter Matt Cooper. Cooper, who was dead center in the Valerie Plame scandal, stops just short of calling Karl Rove a liar, insisting that he did, in fact, leak Valerie Plame’s name to him in 2003.
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Karl Rove’s denial from earlier in the program:
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Gregory: Matt Cooper, let’s pick up on an aspect of the interview with, with Karl Rove having to do with the leak case, the CIA leak case, that you were part of as well. And something’s that’s very interesting, he, he went out of his way to say, “I would not have been a confirming source on this kind of information” and taking issue with, with Novak’s testimony in his column that he knew who Valerie Plame was. He said he would never confirm that information. That’s different from your experience with him.
Cooper: Yeah, I, I think he was dissembling, to put it charitably. Look, Karl Rove told me about Valerie Plame’s identity on July 11th, 2003. I called him because Ambassador Wilson was in the news that week. I didn’t know Ambassador Wilson even had a wife until I talked to Karl Rove and he said that she worked at the agency and she worked on WMD. I mean, to imply that he didn’t know about it or that this was all the leak…
Gregory: Or that he had heard it from somebody else…
Cooper: …by someone else, or he heard it as some rumor out in the hallway is, is nonsense.
Gregory: But he makes no apologies to Valerie Plame.
Cooper: Karl Rove never apologizes. That’s not what he does..
John Amato: Cooper calls Rove a liar, plain and simple—in a dissembling way of course…
Think Progress has Rove on FOX propaganda….
Filed Under: Karl Rove, Meet the Press, NBC, Plame Case/Pat Fitzgerald, Scandals
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Rove=liar
Rove’s real concern in outing Plame: the “YELLOW CAKE” SCAM WAS BASED ON NIGERIAN SPAM
And,….? What…… now Matt Cooper comes out and says Rove fucking lied? Now!? Where was he during the investigation? Where was he when he was needed to nail the Washington Pillsbury Dough-boy’s ass to the wall? Fuck him! Another dumbass who’s willing to talk NOW and NOT when it was needed!
Why didn’t Gregory bring both men together to discuss these issues?
SpankyTheMonkey @ 3:
I agree, but WHY wasn’t Cooper ask similar questions relating to this 2 1/2 to 3 months
ago by the MSM?????
cha-ching….but will anything come of it…doubt it…These guys have run roughshod over the Constitution and gotten away with it…I see no reason to believe that this will change anything……unless someone gets a spine.Politicians…nope……Reporters/Journalists….(yeah I know….it made me laugh too)….nope….who else?
Definition of dissemble, from the American Heritage Dictionary:
TRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To disguise or conceal behind a false appearance. See synonyms at disguise. 2. To make a false show of; feign.
INTRANSITIVE VERB: To disguise or conceal one’s real nature, motives, or feelings behind a false appearance.
Yep, he called Rove a liar, at the very least a deceiver. Hey, isn’t Satan known as “The Great Deceiver”?
Which also begs the question if Fitz knew this, then why exclude Rove from any type of prosecution? I understand the burden of proof but to just completely exclude him and ONLY go after Libby for perjury and then not further pursue the case is perplexing.
Doggiebobo @ 5:
I’ve asked myself the very same question….about every issue with these guys….from 2000 on….the MSM doesn’t ask the right questions.And never have.They know the right questions to ask…but just don’t………and Murdoch will surely make it worse.Two parties,same people….
Nice catch. I must haved zoned at by that point in the malaise on Sunday talk. :(
It’s amazing that a journalist can remember a conversation from 2003 but Republicans in the White House can’t remember something from over a week ago.
Wait a minute… in the second clip Rove says that “we now know” that Wilson came back from Niger with information that CONFIRMED Iraq attempted to buy yellowcake from Niger. He also said something about a British investigation that also confirmed their original/initial findings regarding that memo.
We know that now? Where can I find out more about this?
Rove apologize? Never. Republicans don’t do that - ever.
For the details, see:
“The Unpology: How Republicans Never Say They’re Sorry.”
Rove is a treasonous vulture interested in turning our country into a neo-fascist dictatorship. To call him patriotic is a flat out lie. He, Bush/Cheney/Gonzales are not public servants but self proclaimed royalty doing what’s best for THEM, not our country. Can’t wait until they all go back that Texas hole where they belong.
mudshark @ 9:
And you really have to ask yourself—–why!? Why won’t they ask those right questions at that time? Is the MSM really that far-gone stupid and/or corrupt? Does the current regime really have their tentacles buried that deep? And, if all that is true—-what does that say for 2008?
Wow! Karl Rove is a LIAR?
Who would have ever guessed?
I guess the Pope is Catholic and Bears do shit in the woods after all.
When I hear them say “We Now Know”or “The Fact Is”…..their lying.The Public used to listen and think they were getting the truth….So much for that.
Anyone who took the time to read ‘Bush’s Brain’ understands the true nature of Karl Rove.
The Bush Roving Sons of Watergate are only the latest rendition in a long line of Republican skulduggery stretching back to its genesis.
As the political party of the business class it has always had an affinity for the bottom line.
One can at least creit Mr. Rove for parlaying the national security state as far as he did.
OOOO, proof that Rove doggy dog wasn’t keepin it real…
Plame’s lawsuit against Rove et al. is still in the works, right?
Fucking dissemblers.
Isome @ 12:
As I said in another C&L thread, I could not and cannot bear to watch Rove, therefore
missed what you indicate he said in the 2nd clip…and I still cannot watch; but is that
accurate? That is, Rove said that Wilson’s report “confirmed” Iraq’s attempt to buy
yellowcake from Niger??? This is first I have ever heard of any report “confirming” such.
Sounds like another lie by Rove that went unchallenged by Gregory.
Spanky…..you ask why?…It’s the people at the top,the ones who sign the editors checks.That’s what they want….simple as that.corrupt?oh yeah……
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumpsmells held a press release to announce that there was 2.3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon. My opinion is that much of this money was used to purchase the press/pr corporations.
The teams of accountants hired to find the missing money were in the area of the pentagon that was destroyed the next day. They perished along with the evidence.
Only one congress woman tried to find out what happened to the missing loot and her name was Cynthia McKinney who asked Mr. Rumpstump about the pirates booty several times at oversight meetings. She never got an answer but was latter accused of assaulting capital police. Her opponents were well funded by AIPAC and of course there were Diebold voting machines.
All of that money bought the collective silence of our media.
Our country is now (perhaps next week) in danger of being turned into a third world police state by the global cults who rule by fractional reserve banking. The people who could help turn this around are dying in a meat grinder in Iraq while a private army is being trained and field tested to replace them.
If it helps you sleep, call me a “nutjob” but did you ever think that the armed forces of the united states of america would be involved in the wholesale slaughter of people who never threatened us?
Straight Shooter @ 7:
Haw! PLEASE don’t give Rove that kind of cred! He’s not scary enough to be Satan. All this man ever was is a ruthless, morally deficient dirtbag who was picked last for kickball in the 3rd grade and has been trying to get back at the world ever since. He’s not special in any way; he’s just willing to do and say what decent people wouldn’t. Hell, I can think up some seriously evil things, I just don’t ACT on them. This soulless goofball just doesn’t have that filter (I’m sure he had it surgically removed).
All I want to know is when Butterbutt is going to jail. Never, I know, but I can dream!
Everything I see about rove indicates that this poor excuse for a man is a disgusting piece of shit. I sincerely hope he rots in his own hell - and soon!
dude @ 20:
He’ll get pardoned..that much we already know.How his attorney could find an unbiased jury will be impossible……
I still think that there is more to this than has been revealed on the Fitz-Plame investigation. I firmly believe that there is a whole other nasty backstory to this that hasn’t seen the light of day - yet.
If I was a covert CIA agent - I’d be pissed - and if I were Rove, I’d be nervous…..
Trizza @ 8:
not really !he had all the duped masses here shouting merry fitzmass ,you go fitzmass, go get em fitz , and i said then on here fitzmass is a repig and youll get no justice from a repig , i got bashed i was a defeatest a non beliver a fucking kill joy , say howd that joy work out for yah? you dont have to have a sheeps skin to know that guys like fitz are pricks!
Notice how Cheney & Rove have the same type of speech patterns. They both mutter out of the side of their mouths. Same speech coach who trains them to lie?
E Ryno @ 23:
I don’t think you are nuts. I have had a couple of very smart friends lay out the case for the bankers being the real power behind all the Machiavellian shit that happens across the world. “Bankers” just seems like a sort of innocuous word, but when you consider that most of this mess, most of this meanness, MOST of the strife in the world is motivated by profit, it makes perfect sense.
Only fools expect apologies from sociopaths.
tyree @ 28:
I’m not saying you’re wrong but having watched Fitz here in Illinois my opinion is that he is a prosecutor and considers it an art. Its true that he has a leash that only lets him go so far but that leash is the national security apparatus that only has to declare something “national security” to stop the wheels of justice.
It is my belief and perhaps hope that if given god like powers, Fitz would roto reem Washington.
I can assure you, there are many where I live who do not wish to see him return and resume his relentless track into the Daley machine.
EZ @ 4:
I imagine shrub’s brain made it a condition of his being interviewed.
Gee, why didn’t Matt Cooper mention this years ago?
Could it be that Karl Rove was in power back then?
I’d be interested in hearing Wilson and Plame respond to Karl’s latest fictions.It still amazes me that the Republicans have spent every day since 9/11 tarnishing the reputations of anyone opposing the criminal aggressive “war” in Iraq as “traitors”while the reality is,Karl Rove IS undeniably,a traitor to his country.He is guilty of one of the worst crimes a citizen can commit,and yet…and yet…
Yes - old news, these people are the un-touchables. Not even the courts have been able to remedy the situation. Corrupt beyond belief, but the issue has come and gone but their are many more ———-> http://www.Youpolls.com
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E Ryno @ 32:
say wasnt the daley machine democratic????? sure no problem there!
I just can’t watch Rove speak, so I had to close that clip halfway through. Everything about him reeks of lies, “catch me if you can”, and cattiness. He’s a traitor to the United States.
Matt Cooper labeled Rove a liar on the public airwaves. In effect, he said that Rove committed treason against the United States.
This isn’t politics; this isn’t a game. It’s criminality being exposed.
When, Congress, when?
Can we arrest Karl now?
Libby took the bullet for both Rove and Cheney. Fitzgerald needed a face saving scapegoat, and Libby was it. Libby could be sacrificed without disrupting the power structure in the Whitehouse.
Certainly Libby knew he had a get outta jail free card. The court just forced Bush to ad lib a bit. Bush had to ad lib because the court was gonna put Scooter in jail before the end of Bush’s term. The commutation is just the temporary fix before the promised pardon to come later.