Glenn Beck: "Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common"
By Nicole Belle Sunday Sep 23, 2007 6:15pm
It's unbelievable that he said it, but it's not as bad as it sounds. It's just Beck's authoritarian mind at work, in a really bizarre false equivalency way. In a discussion that revolves around honesty, comedian D.L. Hughley bemoans the lack of a clear front-runner in the presidential race. Beck equates that with his notion of electing based on Cult of Personality:
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BECK: ...(Y)ou`re saying that people want somebody that they just think they have all the answers. I`m saying that...
HUGHLEY: No. That`s who we voted for, who we always voted for.
BECK: OK.
HUGHLEY: I`m saying that that seems to be who we vote for.
BECK: I think people want somebody who have room for doubt, but also have the confidence. I think Jesus Christ and Hitler had a lot in common, and that was they could both look you in the eye and say, "I`ve got an answer for you, follow me." One was evil; one was good. But they both could look you in the eye and have an answer for you. There are very few politicians right now that can look you in the eye and you believe it.
Again, with this kind of incisive political thought, I must ask the question: Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?
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Holy Frist.
How in the world does this guy know Hitler's and Jesus' patterns of eye contact? It's awfully presumptious too. Besides, if you did a tally of all the people killed in the name of Jesus he might outdo Adolf. Now, which one was "good"?
greg white @ 2:
:( was about to make a similar remark.
///snark
He doesn't say which one was good and which one was evil.
Good point, Beck.
The only thing dearer to Hitler than the swasitka was his WWJD bracelet.
...and the point is?
Look at in another way. Christ forever embolized the spirit of foregivness and encouraging peaceful brotherhood, and at the same more people died in his name than any figurehead in history. Even Hitler.
I'm betting the religious right eats him alive for saying that.
Yeah, and they are both Aryan Blue-Eyed White Guys, according to
all the pictures you see in the Evangelical Churches?
What, Jesus was a JEW?
Did anyone tell Beck that yet? He's going to have trouble explaining
THAT to the base....
greg white @ 2:
Be easy on Beck. He's under the impression that Gibson's The Passion was a brilliant documentary film.
Beck should know...he has extensively followed Hitler's path for a long time...
I think he confused Jesus with his twisted megachurch god-for-profit blasphemous right wingnuttery kill em'all let God sort them brand of fascist christianity...
I love right wingnuts...they're the only morons that believe their messiah would have owned a .50 caliber, a useless Hummer, hated everyone not like him, and thought that pre-emptive war is what God wants....
See...what happens when you read the Bible and then allow yourself to believe the right wingnut noise machine and their 'biblical' interpretative justifications for all the evil they strive for or create....
Dude, Olbermann's got a shitload of material tonight for "Worst Person In The World".
greg white @ 2:
If I kill someone in your name does that mean you're to blame?
DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 12:
I'm betting the head of Iran gets 2nd and Beck gets 1st.
WashStateBlue @ 9:
owned!
Beck is a class a asshole most of the time, but he was right here. This was one of his less embarassing moments, which says alot.
Oh ... NOW I get it .... ?????????
How do such Dim-witted jerks get TV shows that pay them millions? WTF !
I do kind of agree with Joe ( #7 ) up above though. More have been killed in the name of Jayzus than hitler.
Jurassic Pork at Pottersville has posted something that looks pretty much like a suicide not. Might be a good time to go give him some support and compassion. NOW.
What about these parallels??
* They both were tradesmen. (Paper hanger/carpenter)
* They both the same logo. (Kinda)
*They both drew big crowds. (Sermon on the Mount/Nuremburg)
The internet(s) is full of good stuff on the subject. This guy agrees with Beck. There's even a film about it.
Gee, I think Beck's onto something.
Becks just dropping names to advance his own agenda. Anyone with half a brain knows that.
Glenn Beck has nothing to say, nothing.
please, no more of this chump. Even if he says something really mean and stupid. I can't take it I tell ya.
Let me explain something to Mr. Beck. Jesus was the Martin Luther King-Gandhi-every great soul there ever was all wrapped up into one package that spent all his life teaching the little guy, the poor, the inncocent, the condemned and the disenfranchised how to not let your soul be stolen from you by the corrupt of his time.
He wasn't working to advance the agenda of the Roman Empire.
AbbeyHoffmansGhost @ 21:
Hughley is right on the money. Character is what you do in the dark and by that measure Republicans are completely in the dark. They lie, cheat, steal, launch private armies to bully other nations in the name of the United States condemning innocent people to their deaths. I have no doubt that eventually Blackwater will be turned on us. They methodically rape the environment and, like a flock of vultures, gorge themselves on the spoils of war. The term "morally bankrupt" doesn't even begin to describe how corrupt and dangerous conservatives have become.
Jesus Hitler
Adolf Christ
Is this the second coming
Or the fourth Reich?
Of course if Beck has ever looked Jesus in the eye, he should consider staying away from the hallucinagenics.
bush & hitler have the most in common.
Listening to Beck is worse than fingernails on the chalkboard. I hate to even surf by the channel when he is on, it might give him a ratings bump for a couple of seconds.
Beck didn't just shoot himself in the foot - he blew his whole leg off.
And, of course, it's Clinton's fault.
Maybe this is a good thing in that it will finally get that idiot fired.
So was CNN line of thinking when looking at Faux Noise that Faux's success was because they had such total idiots as anchors so CNN went out and found and even bigger idiot than anyone at Faux?
My Gawd - you US Americans are hilarious!
Beck's comment was stupid and C&L reaction was just as stupid!
But great entertainment for those of us in a country with some adults in it - who are quickly realizing how completely irrelevant the US has become!
CD @ 8:
I'm betting all he has to do is tell a couple of tasteless fag-bashing jokes and all is forgiven.
The religious right is like your stupid friend who doesn't care how much you hate him. As long as you take him down to the Circle K for soda and gum every once in awhile, he'll do anything stupid you ask him to. Steal someone's bike. Beat some little kid up. Play chicken with a semi truck. Doesn't matter. He's fucking stupid and he's a joke to you, but he's got nobody else to play with. So every once in awhile you voice your true opinion. "Go jump in front of that bus, you dipshit!"
How else to explain their literally religious devotion to the GOP that has failed to put prayer in schools, abortionists in jail, and Darwin out in the gutter.
Boy, that guy's dumb.
Please post some of Olbermann's show from today so i can at least see a part of it.
slippytoad @ 32:
HEY ... Back Off ... They have done plenty of harm, Hell, they can't be perfect.
I keep thinking some one at a news network is going to realize that there is a large underserved market for progressives, of reality based news..
And that corporate group think is keeping them at bay.
Ted Turner, if he were dead, would be turning in his grave...
Actually Jesus and Hitler did have a lot in common. They both burn people they don't like.
Okay, that shyt should get him kicked off the air. With an assist from the comedian-turned-house-Negro, D. L. Hughley.
What would Hitler do?
Johnny2Bad @ 19:
Plus.......
Hitler was a mean Water Polo player (despite the horses always drowning)
and Jesus played Quaterback for the Jerusalem Jewsters.
If a liberal made such a comparison, the reich-wing MSM would be completely imploding.
Dr. Matt @ 39:
WWHD ... LOL
Johnny2Bad @ 19:
Neither ate pork.
Canuknotusa @ 31:
Unfortunately Bush has the Nuclear Football within reach at all times. Pointed at you. Even here though most of if not all of us are considered fodder, collateral, taking up space, useless eaters, the burden of the unorganized masses. What have you.
Judging the truth by the look in the speaker's eye ( a kind of informal polygraph ) is how the blind lead the blind. A physics professor friend of mine once said that the more you know the more you know you don't know. The scientists are being careful not to misrepresent the truth or speak about htings they don't know for sure. The reich wing just pulls feces out of their ass to throw at you.
Hitler had a better tailor and probably smelled nicer. Beyond that they were both charlatans (imo of course).
Things like stock market prices, miniature golf scores, post-drugged semen levels, and chronic back pain and flatulence can fluctuate naturally and may regress towards the mean and uncalled for. The logical flaw is to make predictions that expect exceptional results to continue as if they were the average, a representativeness heuristic if I ever saw one! People are most likely to take action when dissent, like morning wood, is at its peak. Then after results become more normal or less turgid, they believe that their action was the cause of the change when in fact it was not causal, wherein cohesion between objects of similar silly appearance is assumed. While often very useful in everyday life, it can also result in neglect of relevant base rates and volumes, an inability to play funk, and other errors. Another snag you may encounter involves describing some occurrence in vivid detail, even if it is an exceptional occurrence, to convince someone that it is a problem, when, throughout my garbled history, it’s been commonly identified again and again that, if the nuns of the order of Sisters of Saint Joseph are to be believed, I am the one with the “problem”. Though misleading vividness does nothing to support an argument logically, it can have a very strong psychological effect because of a cognitive forceful brainwashing called the availability heuristic. Another area that needs to be dealt with in a timely and thorough manner is several references in my late Elementary/Junior-high phase of mutational development, otherwise known as the "Parade of horribles", originally referred to as a literal parade of people wearing comic and grotesque costumes, rather like the Philadelphia Mummers Parade or my yearly family reunion. It was a traditional feature of Fourth-of-July parades in dismal parts of the U. S. in the nineteenth century without indoor plumbing. A 1926 newspaper article about July Fourth celebrations in the White Mountains of New Hampshire notes “Old-time celebrations are to be held tomorrow at Littleton, Lancaster, Colebrook, and Conway, with all the usual features of street parades of horribles and grotesques, brass balls bands, decorated automobiles and vehicles, dance exhibitions by fire departments, basket picnics in convenient small groves, finger-sniffing contest sponsored by the local Catholic diocese, and the regional dwarf tossing semi-finals...”. And to further enlighten and confuse, in Hesse’s “Steppenwolf”, the protagonist affirms that the men of the Dark Ages (see “Living at Virginia’s house”) did not suffer more than those of the Classical Antiquity (see “Attending Catholic school in the 60’s”), and vice-versa. It is rather those who live between two times, those who do not know what to follow, that suffer the most. In this token, a man from Virginia’s house attending Catholic school, or the opposite, would undergo a gulping sadness and agony.
Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?
Oh I don't know, could it be that he sounds alot like Sylvester the Cat??????
Ok! I call Jesus for the progressives and the conservatives can claim Hitler!
:)
I kid. Nobody is Jesus or Hitler except Jesus and Hitler.
Yeesh! C'mon, Beck; this is goofy even for you.
he sketch:
(Cut to a kitchen. A man and woman listening to a radio.)
Radio Voice: I would like to ask the team what they would do if they were Hitler.
Man's Voice: Gerald?
Another Voice: Well I'd annex the Sudetenland and sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.
First Man's Voice: Norman?
Norman's Voice: Well I'd do the Reichstag bathroom in purples and golds and ban abortion on demand.
Woman: (switching the radio off) Liberal rubbish. Klaus ... what do you want with your jugged fish?
Man: Halibut.
Woman: The jugged fish is halibut.
Man: What fish have you got that isn't jugged, then?
Woman: Rabbit.
Man: What? Rabbit fish?
Woman: Yes. It's got fins.
Man: Is it dead?
Woman: Well, it was coughing up blood last night. -from Monty Python's Flying Circus
Carl Gordon @ 47:
Dude. Up your meds.
Gabe @ 16:
Yeah... what he said was correct and spot on, but it was a shitty way of saying it.
People will always fall for a leader who is decisive and confident in what he believes in... even if what he believes in is total bullshit. This is why people get turned off by "flip-floppers", and why as many people voted for Bush in the first place.
Context Nicole! As usual, of course :)
LOL I just found out that Beck is a Mormon.
The LDS Church is going to be pissed off at Beck.
Johnny2Bad @ 51:
DEaL! How about more Python?
"Gavin Millarrrrrrrrrr [John Cleese] writes:
Neville Shunt's latest West End Success, "It all Happened on
the 11.20 from Hainault to Redhill via Horsham and Reigate,
calling at Carshalton Beeches, Malmesbury, Tooting Bec and
Croydon West," is currently appearing at the Limp Theatre,
Piccadilly. What Shunt is doing in this, as in his earlier nine
plays, is to express the human condition in terms of British
Rail.
Some people have made the mistake of seeing Shunt's work as a
load of rubbish about railway timetables, but clever people
like me who talk loudly in restaurants see this as a deliberate
ambiguity, a plea for understanding in a mechanised mansion.
The points are frozen, the beast is dead. What is the
difference? What indeed is the point? The point is frozen, the
beast is late out of Paddington. The point is taken. If La
Fontaine's elk would spurn Tom Jones the engine must be our
head, the dining car our aesophagus, the guards van our left
lung, the cattle truck our shins, the first class compartment
the piece of skin at the nape of the neck and the level
crossing an electric elk called Simon. The clarity is
devastating. But where is the ambiguity? Over there in a box.
Shunt is saying the 8.15 from Gillingham when in reality he
means the 8.13 from Gillingham. The train is the same, only the
time is altered. Ecce homo, ergo elk. La Fontaine knew its
sister and knew her bloody well. The point is taken, the beast
is moulting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is
complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the
ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock
observes, in the box? No, there isn't room, the ambiguity has
put on weight. The point is taken, the elk is dead, the beast
stops at Swindon, Chabrol stops at nothing, I'm having
treatment and La Fontaine can get knotted."
L.A. Confidential @ 44:
bubba @ 46:
I don't think we can even assume that much about Jesus. For all we know he was just a preacher who spouted metaphors and all the absurd miracles, claims to be the offspring of God and every other supernatural claim by Jesus was made up by his followers and reinforced by the church and councils of Nicea and from translations errors/changes.
They are both similar in that I wouldn't follow either one of them out of burning building.
CD @ 54:
But they don't believe in Jesus!... well, according to the knuckle-dragging drooling fundamentalists.
"Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?"
The same reason innocent children get terminal cancer and Dick Cheney continues to live.
If Beck heard a Liberal say that Hitler and Jesus had a lot in common he would ignore the context entirely and go straight for the jugular.This is where the difference lies in the "debate" between Left and Right.We still play fair-they DO NOT.
I'm much more interested in the quote: "Character is what you do in the dark" Wow... I'm gonna hang my hat on that one for awhile.
WashStateBlue @ 9:
Hitler & Christ were the only two people exempted by name from the Nazi laws defining Jewishness.
CensoredFan @ 48:
He's paid to distract. You don't think the media is actually operating to inform do you?
The bible is filled with bigotry against homosexuals and Hitler killed homosexuals during the Holocaust. Christianity spawned anti-semitism through blaming the jews for the cruxification during the dark ages, which was used as the rationale behind nazism. We don't know everything that Jesus believed, but it was irresponsible of him not to condemn slavery and homophobia among other things. He should have spoken more directly so his followers wouldn't get mixed messages.
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
This pic of Miss America distracts me. Glen Beck is paid to disinform me. Symantics, I know. But I've been wating for an opening to share that photo.
NiceNCool1 @ 37:
What the sh*t?
Explain that.
3waygeek @ 62:
I think there were a few other high ranking Nazis that were exempt but I agree with you're general idea.
well......he's right. just because it's glenn beck saying it makes it worthy of putting on this site? come on......
Blue Buddha @ 58:
Acording to the knuckle draggers virtualy no ones a Christian.
joe @ 66:
I think it's a dig at the theology that says that sinners/unbelievers burn in Hell at Jesus' command.
Canuknotusa @ 31:
But we still have The Stanley Cup.
And if you don't stop being pompous, we'll keep it.
Beck can have his own show because he knows how to get lots of free publicity, like he did right here, and people keep falling for it.
The cost of sandals in Judea circa 30 AD?
1 shekel
The cost of a swastika armband circa 1933?
2 Deutsche Marks
The cost of Glenn Beck saying, on tape, Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common 2007?
PRICELESS!
joe @ 66:
Hitler burned the Jews. Jesus is supposedly god who made the rules that leave a majority of humanity to burn for all eternity in Hell according to the Bible. Now that's not to difficult to understand now is it?
MR. Bill @ 70:
Thankyou, yes it is and it's a very valid dig to.
I hate to say it, but Beck was trying to make a point, though he mangled it somewhat. When Moveon produced their ad, Republicans saw nothing but "betray" so they lost the point. When we look at this, we only see "Jesus and Hitler had a lot in common" so we look like fools by twisting words out of context in a similar fashion. I don't want to get down in the "outrage" gutter by twisting words, I would prefer to be outraged over real things.
Wow, it's like Ralph Wiggums got his own show.
"Why does Glenn Beck have his own show?"
Because he's paid to squawk this inane bullshit.
For people who don't think this shit works. It distracts. It reinforces predisposition.
...
Tom (Not Tom) @ 77:
I can actualy hear Ralph saying what Beck said!
:lol:
Oooh look. the dipshit's trying to get his fat head around the concept of objective morality and why it poisons society.
And he failed miserably.
Hitler's Nazism was the culmination of almost 2000 years of Christian bigotry, ignorance and antisemitism. In addition to persecuting the Jews, Hitler also targeted the gays, atheists and the occult practicing Gypsies, basically the same people Christians had been persecuting for almost 2000 years. Like any "good Christian", he wasn't afraid to torture or murder in large numbers in order to promote his "righteous" cause. Christians often try to claim that Hitler was an atheist. No, no. He's one of your boys.
joe @ 66:
I suppose Hitler didn't really burn people...
Chris @ 82:
He had it done. There's little difference.
Wow, maybe Glenn Beck isn't such a fucking moron afterall. "Good" or "bad", there are indeed people throughout history who have a hypnotizing, magical effect on people... be it Jesus, or Hitler, or Jim Jones, or L. Ron Hubbard, or Robert Tilton, or Glenn Beck! Sure, there are charismatic people who can capture people's attention and will and what not... intelligent people can see them for what they are, learn what they can, and discard the rest. I think the real evil here is the whole, "I'll take this on faith" concept... Regardless of whether your ideology is "good" or "evil"...
Somewhere in the dark, backstage area, before the start of the show, O'Reilly leans toward Beck and says: "I know what we can do today (giggle) -- equate Christ with Hitler!". Beck: "Genius!"
He still has a SHOW?
And an AUDIENCE???
NiceNCool1 @ 84:
A little?
The whole Heaven/Hell thing is based on beliefs and beliefs can change.
Hitler murdered children based on race which can't be changed.
Again, just imagine left-leaning pundit/host making a comparison of Hitler and Jesus.
Ms. Malkin would publish his home address, Mr. O'Reilly would condemn him as the "worst sort of vile, liberal scum," and Glen Beck would say he was thinking about killing him.
Err...
GLENN: Okay... Take the fact that Jesus and The Riddler had a lot in common- they both spoke in parables and wore funny hats- right?
DL: Jesus didn't wear a hat.
GLENN: No?
DL: No.
GLENN: Okay... Take the fact that Jesus and uh... Jesus and the KKK have a lot in common- they both wore white sheets and carried around a cross- right?
DL: Just shut up, Glenn.
GLENN: Whoah! WWJD, DL! Why you say that? We're just talkin', rappin' it here my brotha. Havin' a bit of convo. Layin' it down in da real world my main man. Where's the love?
DL: It obviously died on the cross with Jesus you fool.