Sy Hersh on Bush and Iran: Shifting targets: New Propaganda push to attack their Revolutionary Guard
By John Amato Saturday Sep 29, 2007 11:31am
UPDATED: Sy Hersh joined CNN's Late Edition and discussed his new article out in the NewYorker: "Shifting Targets," which says that the WH has a new talking point which it will sell attacking Iran and as usual, our media will lap it up. The CIA has created an Iran Study Group with dozens of new members with the goal of launching a strike against Iran, including ground forces. Bush feels that using the nuclear threat as the reason to bomb Iran has failed miserably, so they switched talking points and are going to say they are defending themselves against Iranian meddling in Iraq. We told you so....
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Hersh: You can also sell counter-terror, it's much more logical. You can say to the American people, we're only hitting these people that are trying to kill our boys and the coalition forces and so that seems to be more sensible, The White House think s they can actually pitch this, this would actually work...
Now you understand why the Lieberman/Kyl amendment was just put through. If BushCo. wants to heighten the sense of nationalism in Iran, just attack them and keep on this course of immorality. It's another disaster coming from Bush/Cheney and the Neocons in a long line of them and I know Bush and Cheney thank our media for doing what they always do...Nothing, except Sy.
Thanks Sy....Here's my Iran Action Alert post:
Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-225-3121. We need to let our representatives know that Bush cannot attack Iran.
Propaganda for Dummies continues with: Matt Yglesias:
"Last week, Daniel Drezner and I were wondering what ever happened to the PR rollout for bombing Iran. Don Van Natta reports for The New York Times on Freedom’s Watch----its intention to far outspend its rivals and its ambition to pursue a wide-ranging agenda. Its next target: Iran policy." Sounds fun.
And the Sock-puppets attack....(h/t SN) The New Yorker:
This summer, the White House, pushed by the office of Vice-President Dick Cheney, requested that the Joint Chiefs of Staff redraw long-standing plans for a possible attack on Iran, according to former officials and government consultants.
The focus of the plans had been a broad bombing attack, with targets including Iran’s known and suspected nuclear facilities and other military and infrastructure sites. Now the emphasis is on “surgical” strikes on Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities in Tehran and elsewhere, which, the Administration claims, have been the source of attacks on Americans in Iraq. What had been presented primarily as a counter-proliferation mission has been reconceived as counterterrorism...
The shift in targeting reflects three developments. First, the President and his senior advisers have concluded that their campaign to convince the American public that Iran poses an imminent nuclear threat has failed (unlike a similar campaign before the Iraq war), and that as a result there is not enough popular support for a major bombing campaign. The second development is that the White House has come to terms, in private, with the general consensus of the American intelligence community that Iran is at least five years away from obtaining a bomb. And, finally, there has been a growing recognition in Washington and throughout the Middle East that Iran is emerging as the geopolitical winner of the war in Iraq...read on
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The problem is that the media will push whatever the WH wants, yet they won't show a Anti War March in DC- OUR capital of 100,000, so what do we do ?
I long for the day that the media gives us real news instead of the propaganda this administration feeds them.
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
This article is a travesty to our great nation. It will be immoral upon us not to protect our soldiers who are in the Iraq theater. We must be do our best to defend ourselves and attack those who attack us, whoever, wherever they are. The Revolutionary Guards have done great damage to our troops in Iraq theater. We must defend ourselves against them.
Given the higher # of casualties in Iraq that is directly/indirectly caused by the Revolutionary Guards, we have the higher authority and moral ground to pre-emptively strike against this pestilence, called the Revolutionary Guards. They are a terrorists organization.
Another source for pushing this unprovoked attack on Iran which will result in the killing of many innocent Iranians is Faux News and its dumb ass talking heads such as those on 'The Beltway Boys.' On two occasions, at different times yesterday, Saturday, I scrolled past Faux News and they were pushing hard for this invasion. Kondracke was ecstatic about the possibility of this nation widening the war. His beady eyes were gleaming at this possibility. What a bunch of sickos. Of course Kondracke and rest are not going to be putting their collective asses anywhere near this conflict, nor will their kids. So guess who they want to fight and die for this absurity? I would strongly recommend to the joint Chiefs that they invoke the principle in the Uniformed Code of Military Justice which says that 'no one can command you to do an immoral act.' They should all grow a set and tell Bush/Cheney to go screw.
If President Cheney and VP Bush had been in office during Vietnam, no doubt we'd have attacked China for the very same reasons.
Arlington Group @ 4:
Are you insane?
dd
Some day, the word "neocon" will have connotations as bad as the word "nazi."
We're getting steadily closer to that day.
My 2 cents.
Exposed: Bush's claim about Iranian Quds forces proved to be false
excerpt (read the whole article at the above link):
I'm still reeling from the declaration of our esteemed Democratic Candidates that they will try really hard to get out of Iraq by 2013. We are already viewed as an out of control rogue nation by most of the civilized world and now we will remove all doubt by an invasion of Iran on more trumped up evidence. Will they bring Colin back for a encore at the United Nations with all new props? This government no longer works for us and should no longer be trusted to do anything in our name.
Nice. But CNN is still overstacking the analyses with conservatives. Hopefully CNN will be the first to realize viewers don't want re-vomited puke from the Cheney propaganda machine.
Occassionally something decent comes from CNN. So far it's overpowered by the stoopid bleating.
We need to start convicting corporations for complicity in war crimes. Corporations are people, and so they can be held responsible for complicity in war crimes. They should be. Especially media networks and particularly international banks that launder money for weapons dealers.
The best way to deal with terrorists is to cut off their funding and disable their propaganda machine. Terrorism is a crime problem and terrorists need to be dealt with as criminals. International terrorist leaders such as george Bush and dick Cheney should be dealt with accordingly.
Another thing - where's Pelosi, Hillary and Obama - why aren't they countering the White House and capitalizing on all the donations and votes it would win for their campaigns?
Pelosi and Hillary in particular must be aware that if the White House was tied down with impeachment proceedings, they could not sell another war. Don't tell me that don't know that. They know it.
Hillary and Pelosi seem to have made a bargain with the White House: cover their backs against impeachment, do not take an antiwar stance, and the White House will leave them alone for the time being.
Hillary and Pelosi must be bargaining with the neocons. That's really awful.
Arlington Group @ 4:
yes lets get them quickly , before they remember america furnished sadam with thoes poison gasses we gave him to kill them with! oh my
Way to stand up Arlington. These guys weren't paying attention when,the week of taking Baghdad, Iranians were i.d.'d as contributing to the killing of Coalition Forces AND Iraqis. And they have done so ever since - along with gathered physical evidence over that time.
And these guys will use the same game all over again. Whenever a mention is made of a different element to the basic explanation for proposed action on Iran, they will say you have changed the reason once again. This is done boisterously and avoids the actual point that much longer.
[Some response: ("Are you insane?")Ha! That is sad and unfortunate.]
Yes, we all knew why the Lieberputz/Kyl Amendment was pushed through. But our clueless Dems, like Hillary, fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Thanks Hillary and friends! /sarcasm
again, guys, see this article. It states that there is NO proof that Iran has trained anyone to attack American troops. This is a false charge. Remember Brzezinksi's testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Earlier this year, the former Carter NSA said
Why has USA meddled in Iran for all these years? Seriously. Can someone answer?
VietVet8666 @ 9:
And "Democratic Congressman" will have an explanatory link in the dictionary under "invertebrate".
VietVet8666 @ 9:
I think we have already arrived.
level @ 14:
Enough of the right wing talking points. Show me the evidence.
Arlington Group @ 4:
Why are U.S. soldiers in Iraq in the first place? What would you do if the U.S. was occupied by soldiers from a foreign government and these soldiers were walking down U.S. streets heavily armed with AK-47's and protected by tanks and helicoptors?
Guido, OBGYN @ 17:
CIA In Iran
and
Read this essay.
What is the most effective route to stopping this from happening...Any ideas?
Can we go ahead and end the World already? This anticipation is killing me.
AntiFed1791 @ 24:
Thanks for the chuckle, Fed.
dirty d @ 23:
As the original post says, "Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-225-3121. We need to let our representatives know that Bush cannot attack Iran." Call early and call often.
Fuck them all! Let the White House and the MSM push the war with Iran. They will do exactly what they want anyway because they think they are beyond recrimination. I wonder what's going to happen, though, when Iran sends thousands of soldiers across the Iraqi border to destroy the US armed forces by joining with their Shia compatriots? I wonder how Bush/Cheney and the MSM are going to claim "Mission Accomplished" while the oil fields are being bombed into rubble? The American people were fooled once by the lead up to the Iraqi war. They won't be fooled this time although I doubt very much whether we have any say in this whatsoever - until, of course, after the disastrous results and the people become so incensed at the outcome of a war they opposed (and with support for an Iran war currently at about 8%, there are going to be a lot of us) in the first place. So bombs away, you stupid fucking idiots. Get some more soldiers killed at the altar of neoconservatism. I just want to see what excuses Wolf Blitzer and Katie Couric and Dan Abrams and Thomas Friedman and Chris Matthews and all the other cheerleaders for the Iraq disaster are going to use this time. If the American people are stupid enough to fall for this idiocy once more, then we deserve all that we get. Just don't expect me to mop up the fucking blood.
Otay @ 15:
Otay, I got an e-mail saying that that amendment had been defanged. The most controversial parts had been cut out. How would one go about checking on this?
We are only in the Middle East for oil. We let North Korea test nukes and didn't do jack. When are Americans gonna wake up and realize wth is going on. Republicans are such pussies they crap their pants anytime the news mentions "the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud". Iran hasn't attacked anyone in recent history. All I hear is a lot of BS lies from our government. Prove Iran killed American soldiers or STFU.
You know what, screw it. If the administration is dumb enough to actually think bombing Iran is a good idea, let them do it. If all the leading presidential candidates think it's a good idea to keep a permanent presence in Iraq, well good luck in doing so after you pissed off Iran.
If any politician doesn't understand why bombing Iran is a bad idea with or without the public saying so, then they really don't deserve to be in office. So go ahead, bomb and attack Cambodia, erh Iran. See how long you can hold your position in the Middle East when you've pissed off all of the neighboring countries along with with the civil war/insurgency occurring in the countries you occupied. Hell, all Iran has to do is stop delivering oil to the US to make us regret our action.
I'm personally in favor of a quick burn out of our forces through stupidity like bombing/invading Iran instead of slowly bleeding our troops until 2013.
It is a distraction from the needless genocide and slaughter of innocent Iraqis.
The cleansing is complete in Baghdad ,the Shiites rule there but allied with Iran.
Hillary voted for the Lieberman amendment to look strong in the general.
If she did not, the gop candidate will want war with Iran making her look weak.
Have we not learned from looking weak on security in the last two elections?
Get tough, if you want to win.
@getalife Shame on you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dK19sYq9fI
Also imagine if all the Neocons were in jail? :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukanmXma9Z4
Ok i"ll go away now! ;)
VietVet8666 @ 9:
I'll ad another $0.02. (about all I can afford now - thanks bush )
Neocon=nazi
Dumbass said: "This article is a travesty to our great nation. It will be immoral upon us not to protect our soldiers who are in the Iraq theater."
Yes, let's withdraw them immediately--that is the best protection, rather than having them play Russian Roulette with multiple deployments until their luck runs out. Immoral upon us? Learn English from Dubya?
Dumbass continues: "We must be do our best to defend ourselves and attack those who attack us, whoever, wherever they are."
Especially if we start a war of aggression on THEIR border, with many threats against them both verbal, kidnaping of their citizens and build up of naval forces off their coast. Sure, we are completely innocent, as we have always been in every war of aggression we start. Nam, Iraq, Iran next. We're the good guys, they're the Bad Guys. A three year old can figure all this out. By the way, the real terrorists are on Mars. I recently saw a movie about them. Are we going to Mars? Yes we are--Dubya says so.
Dumbass knows: "The Revolutionary Guards have done great damage to our troops in Iraq theater. We must defend ourselves against them."
Who told you that, General BetrayUs?
Dumbass elaborates: "Given the higher # of casualties in Iraq that is directly/indirectly caused by the Revolutionary Guards, we have the higher authority and moral ground to pre-emptively strike against this pestilence, called the Revolutionary Guards. They are a terrorists organization."
Of course we have the higher authority--we're AmeriKans, we rule the world, we can kill anyone we want to be cause we have the guns. We're exceptional, the smartest, most moral, most obese, on and on. Dumbass is RIGHT of course--like Cheney.
What would we be without the Dumbasses that live with us, clog the roads, raise our medical costs, and our taxes. We're so superior, right DUMBASS?
This is so typical -- shifting excuses to do what they want to do -- Cut taxes? Because there's a surplus -- oh wait, because the economy is slowing down.
Invade Iraq? Because of weapons of mass destruction -- no, no, wait -- it's because Saddam is evil -- wait, hold on, it's because we're spreading democracy in the Middle East!
Bomb Iran -- is it to stop nuclear proliferation? To take out the Revolutionary Guard to prevent attacks in Iraq? Oh who cares -- we just want to bomb Iran.
getalife @ 31:
What, the 2006 election where democrats won against every non-incumbency? The Kerry campaign where he was bashed not for being against a war, but not taking a solid position on anything? I mean, if Kerry had taken a solid stand against the war from the start he would have energized his base who were less then enthusiastic about voting for Kerry. The same election where Kerry didn't defend himself from any of the partisan attacks against him or do anything to redefine the argument in his favor?
The lesson as well as most people should have taken from that election is to take a solid stand one way or another, stand up for yourself and don't let Republicans completely frame the debate in their favor. If Hillary makes it through the primary and loses in the general election, it will be for similar reasons that Kerry lost, not because she didn't appear tough enough on Iran. If Democrats really had to worry about looking too weak on terrorism, then people wouldn't support Democrats more then Republicans when dealing with terrorism as most polls show. Democrats need to stop fighting previous election campaigns and look at the current reality of situation before them.
Hillary voted FOR the Lieberman/Kyl amendment.
Guess she's never seen an impending war she doesn't love.
Guido, OBGYN @ 17:
Oil.
I have no doubt that at some level Iran is getting weaponry into Iraq to help the insurgecy against our soldiers, but who started it? The fact is, the US has been waging war by proxy on Iran for years now,
Bushco has been using a terrorist organization (accd to our State Dept as it has killed US soldiers and civilians in the past) that we have been harboring inside Iraq to commit terrorist attacks inside Iran for years now.
Here's just a few of the attacks inside Iran committed by the MEK:
Eight killed in Iran bomb attacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4642170.stm
Bomb blasts hit Iran oil cities
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4754446.stm
Explosion kills 18 elite Rev. Guards of Iran
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/14/ap/world/mainD8N9D3600.shtml
All are attacks on Iran by a terrorist group working for the US from the cover of Iraq.
Here's a couple more attacks against Iran by proxy:
Police, Insurgents Clash After Iran Bomb
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/17/ap/world/mainD8NB523G0.shtml
2nd blast in 3 days hits Iranian city
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/16/iran.bombing/index.html
And so on.
What would the US do if Iran had a terrorist group doing all of these attacks against us?
It is the same Rove stategy they used to win the last two elections except this time it is Iran.
Hillary is the only candidate who knows this stategy and her vote will make it a losing stategy.
Three strikes and you are out.
This quote is troubling:
Note closely what the US administration has said Iran as a pretext for war: That it is "concerned" bout it's action in Iraq. However, recall WWII and Japan: Japan used the same excuse against the US: That the US was "interfering" with the Japanese actions. After WWII, because the Japanese had illegally started hostilities -- just like the US when it invaded Iraq -- the Japanese were found to have illegally started warfare; and the US lawfully opposed illegal Japanese action. Today's Iranian actions -- regardless what they are -- are lawful because they are defending Iran against the illegal US-led instability.
Read page 109 of the book, "Letters from Nuremberg" -- the story of Senator Dodd's Father, Tom, who was a prosecutor. I urge you to read this page in light of the revelations on Iran. On page 109, you will read the letter from Nuremberg which discusses the German Kietel's defense for their invasion of Czechoslovakia -- "because they were afraid of a Czech invasion." The same excuses is being said today of Iran. When a nation like the US changes its "argument for war" it means the original reason is no longer valid: There remains no imminent threat when a nation "has time" to "discuss" the reasons.
need more proof?
Back in Dec when Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann wrote an op-ed for the NYT the Whitehouse forced them to redact all mentions of the US's using the MEK terrorist group against Iran from it, so they published an accompanying piece "What We Wanted to Tell You About Iran" where they provided links to previously reported sources for all of the redacted info.
Rawstory put their clues all together here: The redacted Iran op-ed revealed
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_redacted_Iran_oped_revealed_1222.html
Bushco thinks it's just fine to commit terrorist attacks by proxy against Iran but if they go so far as to supply any weaponry by proxy to attack back they are the terror org. They've been trying to provoke another war with Iran for years.
Iran's Revolutionary Guard isn't a terrorist group and Iran isn't our enemy. Our White House is
Yess! We are going to attack! The media is rooting for it. You won't see the media explaining what the catastrophic consequences will be. They couldn't care less. It's more business for them. You soon will see in big titles in another CNN series as:"THE IRAN WAR", the way they do it; Epic, glamorized, grandieus! And the Democrats will give Him wha He wants, because they, themselves, are already computing the different ways one can get rich in this fucking war!
Iran had helped the US during the invasion of Afghanistan, and then offered to negotiate peace with the US and trade alqaeda members for MEK members and open up its nuclear program, but Cheney and Rumsfeld had other plans for the MEK..
Condi says she can't remember ever recieving the offer:
Flynt Leverett: Condi's Memory Lapse on Iran "Really Quite Curious"
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002512.php
Here is that actual offer from Iran:
This is a disaster on grander proportions than we've seen in Iraq. Does America have a functioning governance system; and where is the Congressional "oversight" of this reckless exeuctive power:
Where is the US going to get ground forces to engage Iranian ground forces: A draft, move them out of Iraq-Afghanistan? This is absurd, and no more credible than Hitler's non-sensical plans to take over the world. How does the US propose to carry this "Plan" to it's logical conclusion?
Time for Members of Congress' staff to call on the carpet the DoD-contractors who are providing these non-sense studies to DoD and the Joint Staff: What are they thinking; and given their reckless "inputs" on Iraq, why should we believe them on Iran?
I say: Stop trying to reason with the US government, and seriously open a public discussion to replace this reckless US government system with something that will respect Geneva and the US Constitution. This US government is out of control. Very dangerous. Reach out to the leadership in Academia and civil rights areas to prosecute these Members of Congress for their failure to enforce Geneva. Time to go after the DoD General Counsel and the law firms associated with the entities proposing these illegal invasion plans. Jail time is needed.
Let's face it. The Dems aren't spineless; they're political. They know as well as the Repubs that war is good for the economy, altho they would never say that. Hell, just think of the billions they're pumping into the economy by paying Blackwater and folks like them. Instead they tell us what they think we want to hear (e.g., "No new funding without an exit strategy") and then they go and do what they want (more funding, slipped in while we weren't watching).
And besides, if they force an end to this war too soon, they won't have any good issues for the 2008 election, or the 2010 election, or the 2012 election. They also know what Orwell knew, that a perpetual war—like the so-called War on Terror—gives the government (BOTH parties) whole bunches of power over the people. It's a way they can control us.
Time for a little grassroots revolution. Vote the whole mess of them out, not only President Cheney and VP Bush but Pelosi, Reid, all of them.
Folks, do you really think they will put Israel in this position to be attacked?
Could it be a disatrction from Iraq and a Rove political stategy they used to win twice?
Do you think they want to destroy our economy with higher priced oil when they are corporate whores?
Do you think they want to go against Russia and China?
I call bullshit.
No need to wait until 2008; We still have a year for legal and fundion options to be implemented. Time for prosecutions, and DNC has the power to shut off funding for this illegal invasion planning. It refuses: DNC Chairs in both the House and Senate could agree -- before any bill was introduced to either chamber -- to common language, and bypass a conference Committee; DNC could zero-out funds, and force the GOP to vote to add money back; DNC could move to impeach. Once this invasion starts, all US personnel associated with this illegal planning are under the laws of war legitimate military targets.
This government is using the prospect of war as the smokescreen to accountability for war crimes in Iraq and Iran. More war crimes does not legalize the unlawful Geneva violations. America remains a looming threat to international law and order. The US government has effectively said it is no longer civilized, nor respectable under any law. This US government -- if it dares to implement this illegal invasion -- would send a clear signal: "We are not going to be bound by any law." This US government has, in effect, said, "We are no longer bound by written law -- and are legitimate." Hitler said the same. Roman Empire collapsed under the same non-sense.
A free citizenry cannot be expected to remain loyal to a system of governance that puts its own existence above law and man. Our loyalty is to law and the Constitution, not to this government. Time for the public to find a new system of governance: One that will ensure legal counsel put their loyalty to the US constitution and Geneva before that to the GOP illegal invasion plans. Time to go after the American legal profession and the General counsel's for the corporations that would put this illegal plan into effect: Security firms, DoD contractors, and the state-level entities that would know that this plan and it's implementation are war crimes.
Options@51
That sounds and make sense. You might be right!
getalife @ 50:
Since when did the Cheney/Bush administration do the smart thing?
I take their absurdity seriously: It is reckless, just like Hitler. There is no difference: There are desperate to avoid war crimes trials. Good qauestions [minor changes to spelling]:
getalife @ 50:
They may view this as the "needed" move to bring about Armageddon. They may view this as the "final" battlefield. Never mind the fact that state and religion are supposed to be separate.
getalife @ 50:
getalife @ 50:
I don't think they care: They're already destroying the economy.
getalife @ 50:
I don't think they've adequately factored into the issue Russian, Chinese, and Indian responses. There may be people who will go along with illegal invasions of Iran because they don't like Iran; but there are other countries in Africa, S. America, and Asia that are not on the same page already with the US on Iraq; throwing Iran into the mix doesn't do much for the US.
I think Iran made their case for peace and it is all political bullshit.
Recently, Iran and China went into 7 billion dollars oil deal. I don't think China will like to see Iran being invaded and causing an interruption to that deal.
the Pravda never stops
Here is the lastest from the propaganda wing of the Whitehouse (FNN).
The following "documentary" is running on Fox News at 3:00 PM EST today.
Title: Iran: The Ticking Bomb
Summary: An investigation of Iran's activities in Iraq, including its alleged role in attacking U.S. troops. Also: details of America's plan to pressure Iran; and how military strikes may prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb.
Boom @ 58:
Fox's Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran Blueprint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnz0A0cc5gU
just sick :(
A brief past:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8536707153900925247&q=bill+moye...
The full version:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3505348655137118430&q=bill+moyer...
The future:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4689061169761152025&q=pentagons+...
Iran isn't Iraq. They will not just roll over and play dead.
Iran is prepared to retaliate, experts warn
February 12, 2006
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/02/12/iran_is_...
As if our 170,000 soldiers right next door in Iraq's lives weren't already in enough danger.
Strawberry @ 28:
Semi-defanged would be a better word. The amendment still declares a military force, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, as terrorists. Which would not be so bad except that we have a "war on terrorism" going on. So the Shrub could say he was given permission to attack Iran through the Congress' acquiescence, or if necessary get another amendment passed taking one further step.
In any event, we are now almost certainly assured that we will attack Iran, and that the Shrub and MSM can cry that they had congressional support. If the Dems played hardball, and did not go along with ANY Repub legislative strategy, things may have been different.
Strawberry @ 28:
Go to TPM and look around some. There's a story about it there.
I went to the Washington DC anti-war march/protest, here are some videos I took on my digital camera:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=maplespak&p=r
bob @ 63:
Joe Makes a Strategic Retreat
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/054292.php
Sy Hersch does his research and he spends a lot of time on his New Yorker articles--he doesn't shoot from the hip, he has impeccable sources and these are people inside the Pentagon, CIA, etc. It is because he has such credibility that he is able to get the info he does. People with far greater knowledge and brains than those in this administration know what the consequences are of such strikes.
I'd take Sy Hersch's word over anyone in this administration--and I certainly would not believe a word that Lieberman or Kyl say. Not....one....word! Just on the basis of their lies about the reason for the Iraq war--these clowns have zero credibility.
However, watch the usual suspects, Russert, ABC, CBS, Faux (especially), CNN, Matthews et al, get all excited about going to war. They won't ask one question, ask for any evidence or proof, it will be simply business as usual. It makes me sick!! But if anyone dissents and says "No" to this phony war, they of course will be challenged as being unpatriotic. If these clowns in the media had someone really stand up to them and show the public what asses they really are, we wouldn't be rapidly going down this path to war.
All those idiot congressional democrats who voted to designate the revolutionary guards as terrorists....who could have seen this coming??
Impeach the bastard.
let bush attack iran. then the WORLD will come over here and do what america is too stupid, scared, and short-sighted to do...STOP HIM. don't think of it as an invasion, think of it as "outsourcing our justice system".