Countdown: The Right's Attacks On Children Continue - This Time It's A Toddler
By Logan Murphy Monday Oct 15, 2007 8:37pm
We've been covering the ongoing attacks on SCHIP and Graeme Frost by Republican Spokesghoul Michelle Malkin and the rabid-right and on tonight's Countdown, Keith Olbermann calls out Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell and his staffer for their now-"retracted" e-mail hackery and talks with the New York Times' Paul Krugman about the new attacks launched against toddler and SCHIP recipient, Bethany Wilkerson. Remember, there is no basement in the Right's house of horrors.
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Krugman, who was smeared by Sen. McConnell's office for reporting the truth, gives props to the blogosphere and Democrats for their successful pushback against the right's normally successful smear campaigns. One programming note, the parents of Bethany Wilkerson will be appearing on Countdown tomorrow night. Rest assured, we will be watching...
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Bastards.
Now we find out that people who do not have health insurance should not have children if they are going to get sick. I had no idea. It seems to me if we are to go that far we should not allow people to have children who are going to grow up to be mean spirited, evil, right wing Republicans.
This is a program i could get behind.
No coverage of Kucinich on Colbert last night?
Run an ad featuring a fetus!
gutemacht @ 3:
You can see it on my site if you wish.
Bethany Wilkerson?? F*** her!! I'll take an extra 'patriotic victory' week in Eye-Raq instead!
This whole issue has been one big minefield for the wingnuts, yet they keep coming back for more. Well, if they insist ...
Eamon @ 6:
26 of those will buy you a Freedman Unit.
The question has been asked why they attack the messanger rather than the policy. I honestly don't think they see the difference.
Willie @ 9:
...or they know they can't attack the policy.
xoites defends Constitution @ 5:
I was more just wondering if they just hadn't gotten to it yet or something here, as I don't quite get why they'd snub him here.
Where are the Republican family values?
These so-called values people would rather deny gay people the right to marry then provide the children of the nation health care coverage.
The Republican party is part and parcel of the wave of fascist power being displayed by this administration.
They are endorsed by religious leaders who preach Christ for profit.
xoites defends Constitution @ 2:
If you want to keep repeating that, xoites, it's fine with me. But the guy you are referring to said no such thing, nor was he implying that. Krugman and Olbermann are dishonest to repeat it.
If you were truly interested in what he said, you can read it here. Or if you prefer to keep repeating the liberal canard of the day, be my guest. I've read many of your posts and I know you care, but to micharacterize what this guy said is wrong.
xoites defends Constitution @ 2:
This is just a new take on Gingrich's early 90's idea that poor families should put their children in orphanages.
dennis @ 13:
Oh, I'm sorry. Suddenly it is I who has the responsibility to be accurate? The right wing gets a pass?
Republicans are NOT human.
Police Release Composite Sketches of Suspects in Randi Rhodes Assault
http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=2819
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
this is gooood.....ya had me going for a second.........
Sorry, xoites. Shouldn't come down on you, but it did bother me what these two guys said about the National Review guy, and then they both implied that's what Republicans think; better for these children never to have been born. Maybe I'm naive, I just don't know anyone on the right who thinks exactly this way.
Oh come on, people! Let's put this entire episode into perspective: If you stumbled onto Dick Chaney devouring a live baby in a dark alley, would you be surprised? I mean really surprised? I wouldn't.
xoites defends Constitution @ 15:
I don't think he's giving the right wing a pass. He's not exactly a government official who can bring about consequences to their reckless actions. He's some dude posting on a comments board trying to correct something he saw someone say when he noticed it was wrong.
But why take on such a sarcastic tone with that guy, anyway, when you can be out using against the right wing, right?
I wish more people would give Krugman air time. He always makes perfect sense, has his facts down, and exhibits the kind of compassion that is rare in today's world.
He is best when he is on by himself, i.e. sans other guests, because he is so well mannered and a perfect gentleman and is often interrupted and talked over--see Bill Maher from last week.
On economic matters, I think no reichwanker will appear with him because he is so knowledgable he blows away their arguments without breaking a sweat.
dennis @ 13:
I am reading his original article. This is pure bullshit:
"With two properties and three cars the Frost family’s personal wealth and relative need for free health insurance was the subject of much controversy."
Let's get down to the accuracy, shall we?
L.A. Confidential Says:
Police Release Composite Sketches of Suspects in Randi Rhodes Assault
http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=2819
It was "Suspect B" ; Fat Bastard Limpballs pushed Rhodes out of the way to get at a passing hot dog cart .........
Blue Buddha @ 10:
I don't know, their lies and distortions would probably be more effective if they focused on the policy. But they're aren't satisfied with that approach. I think they believe they own the emotional issues -- patriotism, illegal immigration, family values etc. They know that's what their supporters respond to, and they don't want the Dems stepping on their turf. If that means kicking around a disabled 12-year-old, well so be it. This really goes to the heart of what the wingnuts have become. That they're willing to go down in flames over this just shows how far gone they are.
That's my best guess, anyway.
mudshark @ 18:
Apparently she's not as seriously hurt as reported when the story broke this morning. Actually I probably shouldn't have posted that because it's not really funny. But quite fitting for todays hostile political climate.
They should have included Coulter in that.
dennis Says:
Sorry, xoites. Shouldn’t come down on you, but it did bother me what these two guys said about the National Review guy, and then they both implied that’s what Republicans think; better for these children never to have been born. Maybe I’m naive, I just don’t know anyone on the right who thinks exactly this way.
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Are you implying that a group of brainless cretins that would attempt to smear a 12 year old boy and a 2 year old girl , believe there are things that are "off limits" ?
Are you drunk ?
dennis @ 13:
with all due respect ...how long has the right been falsely profiling people.....a decade...maybe two?...or more.And they've been doing it on the MSM...not on a private blog....sorry dennis...no offense.
I am sorry, but i think i have a right to be furious. I am furious with people who claim living in a responsible society that takes care of its citizens is a "Socialist Conspiracy." I am furious with people who lie about and attack people who stand up for what they believe in. But i am especially furious with those that believe them and refuse to think for themselves.
MCMetal @ 24:
Either that or he was in withdrawal and running down the street trying to score an oxy fix.
L.A. Confidential @ 26:
She really got attacked?...I haven't made it to the MSM yet....so I don't know.
mudshark @ 31:
If you look downthread what actually happened is in doubt. She may have had an accident, she may have been mugged. I have no idea at this point.
if she was attacked..it doesn't surprise me........it was just a matter of time before one of them went off the deep end......I'm more surprised there hasn't been more.Their so full of hate.
xoites defends Constitution @ 29:
Hey, that's great. But based on his posts here, Dennis isn't any of those. So if you wanna be mad at all those people, feel free. Just don't think you're also justified in taking it out on someone else when they point out your errors just because the truth might not like the right wing to look as bad as you want them to.
I mean, you wouldn't lash out at someone who says "George Bush IS the POTUS" after you go about saying "Some right wingers are so stupid, they think George Bush is the POTUS".
Or would you?
xoites defends Constitution @ 29:
People do think for themselves, xo. Just because they don't agree with you, please don't assume they aren't thinking.
Has it ever occurred to wingnuts that if Jesus were born today, his parents would have qualified for S-CHIP? I can see the attack ad now:
(ominous-sounding music up)
"Democrats say the government should pay for baby Jesus' health care. But how was baby Jesus conceived? Not by Mary's husband, Joseph. And where did Mary choose to give birth to her child? In a stable! And what did Mary and Joseph do with the gold they received as a baby shower gift? Couldn't they have used that to buy health care for baby Jesus?
"The facts are clear. Democrats want to spend your tax money on irresponsible parents who have children out-of-wedlock!"
r€nato @ 37:
LOL! Don't forget the late-model burro parked outside.
The 12-year-old fought back, so now they're figuring they should aim a little lower.
Remember: Repubs are the biggest cowards in the world.
dennis @ 35:
Ok, i will appologize. However, after reading his article (not his article about the article) it seems to me he has condemned these people as irresponsible for having a child without health insurance. That takes a lot of nerve. He implies that she left a job with health insurance out of choice, she called it unmanagable, he said she called it "unmanagable."
This, at best is slimy journalism. I especially get a kick out of this statement: "While USAction and a labyrinthine maze of leftist activist groups prepare to rally around images of Tampa Bay’s Most Photogenic Baby holding up a crayon sign that says “Don’t Veto Me,” Dara and Brian Wilkerson are real poster children — for irresponsible decisions."
"...labyrinthine maze of leftist activist groups..."
How nice!
dennis @ 13:
Oh please
That writer at NRO (a piece of shit wrong wingnut crap site anyway) , Mark Hemingway , isn't exactly noted for being honest and /or factually accurate (not that NRO is , either) ............
It begs the question: How far over the cliff do these people have to leap before they start losing their 28%er lemmings? What do they have to do? They've got the blood of children on their hands and still the hyper-hypocritical dittoheads somehow think it's the damned liberals who are trying to destroy America. If something like this isn't enough to wake at least the other 72% out of their sleepwalk and start showing some outrage over the way we're being governed, I don't know what the hell it's going to take.
And I've had enough of Democrats tiptoeing in fear and refusing to take a stronger stand on this kind of stuff, even after the poll numbers come in dramatically in their favor. Come out with the guns blazing, for God's sake. These slimey Repubs not only value corporate profits over the lives of our children, they've doing their best to shred the Constitution under your watch. Have some f**king guts or move over and make room for some real Americans to take charge! Son of a bitch, this stuff really pisses me off. Kids are dying because bed-wetting politicians are afraid of being labeled "socialists" and/or they're afraid of someone turning off the Big Insurance money spigot that they want to ride to the White House. Giving people tax breaks in exchange for forcing them to buy overpriced insurance that doesn't guarantee them care is not a f**king "health care plan!!!"
I want my country back.
He goes on to say, "From there she took a job at a restaurant with no health insurance, and the couple went on to have a baby anyway, presuming that others would pay for it and certainly long before they knew their daughter would have a heart defect that probably cost the gross national product of Burkina Faso to fix."
According to the CIA Burkina Faso has a GDP of $18.94 billion (2006 est.)
I think exageration is a very polite way of describing the fellow.
xoites defends Constitution @ 43:
That's a rather interesting quote. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for universal health care, and all that, but where DO we draw the line as far as personal responsibility?
Granted, this man doesn't seem to realize that people don't exactly CHOOSE to, and aren't exactly counting on having unhealthy children, so I don't quite see how universal health care would be over that line.
attacking children.........how pathetic is that?....I hope their proud.fuckin lowlifes
gutemacht @ 44:
Screw the lines! You want lines? Let's put a cap on earnings! Who the fuck needs to make $10 million a year? Why do some CEO's make over $40,000 an HOUR? Yes, let's draw some REAL FUCKING LINES!
It's all about the money. . .
dennis @ 35:
What are those that are still so insistent that we stay and remain part of Chimpy's Idiotic Iraq Adventure possibly thinking about ?
Their bank accounts because they all own stock in Halliburton ?
ralph @ 47:
Most true and concise statement on this thread so far.
I have to admit that I do not know much about Bethany Wilkerson, or her case. Having followed the right-wing fanatics since the Reagan administration’s advent of American Fascism, I am well aware that these people know zero boundaries. None at all. It should be apparent by now that the right wing crowd spews the vitriol that spreads across America. Right-wingers and their ilk on talk radio stir the ignorant and ugly American citizens into the violent rages which end up in death threats. So, yes, I do hold the entire right wing apparatus responsible for conditioning Americans to be cold, coarse, and hateful towards other citizens. The right wingers have been able to escape responsibility for their assaultive-like words for far too long. These right wingers are well funded by the likes of the Coors, Scaife, and DeBeers families to spread such hatred and vitriol. These right wingers know exactly what they are doing when they utter their hateful rhetoric, but profit and make millions off it, at the expense of people with lesser means. Right wingers do not think anything of children, elderly, or anyone else, receiving any help from the state. If you cannot make it on your own, “too bad” and “die” is how the right wing think. They do not give a damn if you live or die in their book, and look at you as losers if you are unable to be “self-sufficient.” Right-wingers on the airwaves daily are nothing but stooges to uphold the extreme-radical dogma daily. Right-wingers think nothing of polluting the public/political discourse and their hate has no bounds. I will not yield from my position of holding right wing “icons” responsible for what has happened to American society and culture. The Right-wingers have nothing but contempt for anyone who may need a helping hand from the government. These people on the right loathe all government programs and anyone who receives help or assistance from the government will always be looked down upon as a “lesser human being” by people on the right who see any program of the government as either “socialism” or “communism.” The right wingers see these programs as an enemy and those who receive help are looked upon as enemies of America. Yes, the right wingers are deranged people indeed. The right wing have declared war on the poor long ago and then denounce any talk about real economics as “class warfare.” The right-wing are always playing class warfare, but to talk about it honestly is not a virtue they have. Yes, class warfare on the middle and lower classes has been in full motion since the Reagan administration. The ones who do not want to talk about class warfare on the right are these talk show hosts who whores themselves to the likes of old money from the Coors, Scaife, and DeBeers families.
Mr. McConnell and the Malkinites of the blogosphere should thank their lucky stars that the Bastille is not merely a tourist trap but is not located in the US ... or me might reopen it to put their squalid "Let Them Eat Cake" butts in there to wait fo that fabulous blade to drop on them.
J.C. @ 42:
Don't hold back JC, tell us how you really feel.
All kidding aside, I agree with you completely. I do not understand the dems. Apparently at least 70% of the country wants a change. Why are they so damn timid? You're words describe perfectly how I feel.
Glinda @ 51:
Send them to Guantanamo Bay ; most of those empty-headed wrong wingnut screaming banshees were all singing the praises of the food served there.......
50 Mr. XXXX
Very well said.
dennis @ 19:
george w bush?
Krugman did an outstanding job against the selfish Flintstonians
xoites defends Constitution @ 46:
Yes, I agree that an earnings cap would be a good line. You really don't have to use the BillO 'I'm the maddest guy in the room so of course I'm right' tone to convince me.
Ok, then would someone please get angry?
Besides, i don't want to draw lines on health insurance. Everyone should have it.
xoites defends Constitution @ 58:
And if you read what I said, instead of jumping at the first chance to sound like such a tough guy, you'd see that I agree with that, too.
Lord, you know things are getting bad when leftwingers start using such rightwing tactics.
Blue Buddha @ 10:
Correct! I would love to hear their attempt to explain why they don't believe children should have health coverage. And why can't anyone point out when the right says that these people are being used that the right used a dead woman for their agenda, a woman who could not speak either for or against the right wing ideals...which is why they chose a dead woman for their fight (no offense to the Schaivo family intended).
I work with a guy who is fairly smart and a logical thinker, yet he's a republican and of course when I bring facts to him he doesn't know any of them, only what he sees on the TEEVEE and I keep telling him if he knew the facts there is no way he would support the policies, but like all republicans he does his best to steer clear of the facts.
gutemacht @ 59:
Just because i am pissed off does not mean i am resorting to tactics. Sometimes i am just pissed off.
isn't it the wingnuts who think we should all have as many kids as possible and trust in God to provide for them?
(sounds to me like an argument for birth control and reproductive choice!)
xoites defends Constitution @ 61:
Gah! Okay, but READ what I'm saying if you're going to reply.
BE angry at what the govt is doing, most people already are. That doesn't mean you have to attack anyone that disagrees with you.
Well these day, I often hear people ask what Jesus would say or do. Recently, I found him and asked his opinion on today's America. Jesus told me he isn't very happy with many who speak for him. And he is rather furious with the Michelle Malkins, Rush Limbaughs and Mitchell McConells of this country. Jesus told me that they are going to hell. Apparently sending the right-wing hate machine against innocent children damns one for eternity. I wonder if it was worth it. Bummer, eh?
I attacked noone. Look, do yourself a favor and NEVER testify before Congress about anything. The right wing will give you a nervous breakdown.
they attack children in afganistan and iraq so why wouldn't they attack children in the u.s.. the g.o.p. is all about death and destruction nowadays and you are either with them or against them. if you are against them, i suggest you get the g.o.p voter registration rolls in your area and prepare to defend your communities from these people.
xoites defends Constitution @ 5:
you are the muhfuggin' man!
I donno..that arguement bout being poor and therefore not have kids does seem persuasive...Like how woudl u guys argue against that?
BaScOmBe @ 68:
gawsh...
dennis @ 13:
Then let's put Hemingway's comments into proper perspective. He is an arrogant, judgmental, and condescending jerk. He has all the time to judge and condemn others but no time to offer understanding and empathy. He condemns others from his lofty perch of haughty superiority and self centeredness, saying in essence, what's good for me is good for everyone. He is little more than a modern day Commodore Vanderbilt where it's every man for himself.
In other words, he's about normal for a Republican. I look forward to helping to bury them next November.
RasslinGod @ 69:
When I had my kids, if I had waited until I could afford them I wouldn't have had any. You deal with what comes. I was lucky and had no major illnesses or accidents. In todays world though, people are working 2 jobs and barely making ends meet. Does that mean they don't deserve the joy of having children? Should only rich have children? Aren't we all supposed to have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or is that only for the rich?
bmw 528 @ 71:
Ever see Mark Hemingway ...........?
He's a badly balding , tub of crap ........
Oh , you're right ; he's about normal for a Republican .
RasslinGod @ 69:
Since when does having a certain numerical figure in a bank account(s) , make anyone a better parent ?
Did Shrub Sr and gross Barbara Shrub having money make Chimpy Jr turn out "better" ? (Obviously not)
Did Chimpy and Laura Shrub having money make their twins not be useless , party-hopping pigs ?
MCMetal @ 73: