C&L EXCLUSIVE: Rep. Wexler Thanks You For Your Support

The tremendous response to my call for impeachment hearings for Vice President Cheney confirms that the Bush Administration and Vice President Cheney must be held accountable. I have been overwhelmed by the netroots support for my call for impeachment hearings and for my website - WexlerWantsHearings.com. As of Monday afternoon - after only four days - over 80,000 people have signed up to show their support for impeachment hearings.

It is the constitutional duty of Congress to investigate the serious charges that have been leveled against Vice President Cheney, and I am using my position as a member of the House Judiciary Committee to see that hearings are held. Unfortunately, Congress and the national media ignore this serious issue. The outpouring of support documented at WexlerWantsHearings.com has been driven and supported entirely through the power of blogs, the Internet, and word of mouth. Websites like Crooks and Liars have taken on this important cause and have stepped up to fill the void left by the main stream media who still somehow believe that impeachment is a fringe idea and not worth coverage. In this case, the American people are way ahead of Congress and the media.

I was shocked when no newspaper would publish the op-ed I wrote with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI). It is not every day that three members of the House Judiciary Committee set out a substantive case for impeachment hearings against the sitting Vice President. Yet, the national media yawned. No matter. The people have responded. Americans from all fifty states have signed up to support my call for hearings.

Originally, my goal was to gain 50,000 online signatures on behalf of impeachment hearings. Today, our goal is 250,000 supporters.

The charges against Vice President Cheney are too serious dismiss without hearings. If we band together, we can make focus the nation's attention on this critical issue. Let's continue to make our voices heard.

Congressman Robert Wexler

I've been in communication with Rep. Wexler's office and they are genuinely stunned by both the volume and the quality of the response they've received from the blogosphere. Look at these past posts on Wexler's petition (h/t FOIA) I think we're starting to pierce through the Beltway bubble and really showing the power of the netroots to come together and support those who are supporting our values.

If you haven't done so already, please forward WexlerWantsHearings.com to your email list. Let's show Rep. Wexler that he can get 250,000 signatures as easily as we got him 50,000.

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Wexler/Dodd/Kucinich '08.

250,000 signatories in a week...

And the Democrats want to avoid impeachment hearings... WHY????

Time is running out. Only about 11 Months before Bush says,

Thanks Suckers. Have fun cause it ain't my problem no more.

AlphaFactor @ 2:

250,000 signatories in a week...

And the Democrats want to avoid impeachment hearings... WHY????

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thank YOU Rep. Wexler. There are few things that prompt me to sign my own name to but this was a no-brainer.

I live in Wexler's district, he's the real deal. I met with his District Director last Thursday with a petition asking him to sign on to HJ 64, a resolution stating that Bush does not have the right to invade Iran. His DD told us that Wexler is completely behind both impeachment and keeping us out of Iran. If you haven't signed this petition, what are you waiting for???

well, it's now over 85 thousand signatures.....including mine.

70% of the country is on the far left margins of the political spectrum. It's quite the bell-curve.

We should prosecute Neocon Nancy for conspiracy to commit treason. She's a big reason the Dems haven't moved forward on this. I am completely, irreversibly convinced she she is a crook just like Darth and W. "Praying with the President" indeed.

Leave that petition up for another week, and you will see 2 million signatures, easy. Cheney will just see it as confirmation that the impeachment movement is in it's last throes, if you will.

The tide is finally turning. Next year is going to be hell for the Republicans.

An election is coming and Americans are waking up, looking back, and thoroughly rejecting the banana republican government we have been subjected to under Bush.

Questionable metrics indicates possible GOP interference with Wexler’s Congressional Records.
Isn’t that a FEDERAL OFFENSE and a Felony?
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29364&from=50&comments_per_pag...

Metrics are now being monitored on a 10 minute basis, but today there were visibly two drastic reductions in the vote tally, giving the appearance of outside manipulation or tampering. Given the serious nature of the allegations against Vice President Cheney, I have no doubt that the GOP would consider this cover-up, to go in conjunction with the Main Stream Media News Blackout about Cheney’s impeachment.

Source
http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

the other crooks and liars threads on this subject also track the metrics, it surpassed 112,000 today, the the tally was altered/hacked? back down to 83,000....somethings fishy here!

karl, get off that damn computer and go 'spend more time with your family'!

FreedomOfInformationAct @ 11:

Questionable metrics indicates possible GOP interference with Wexler’s Congressional Records.
Isn’t that a FEDERAL OFFENSE and a Felony?
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29364&from=50&comments_per_pag...

Metrics are now being monitored on a 10 minute basis, but today there were visibly two drastic reductions in the vote tally, giving the appearance of outside manipulation or tampering. Given the serious nature of the allegations against Vice President Cheney, I have no doubt that the GOP would consider this cover-up, to go in conjunction with the Main Stream Media News Blackout about Cheney’s impeachment.

Source
http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

Wow. for a second there, I thought you were off-line

:lol:

well, thanks, i suppose, for doing your job, congressman wexler.

you still don't deserve a pay raise until you actually pry him from his fortress, though.

I hope that the democrats are prosecuted someday for NOT protecting and defending the constitution.

hey, can the C&L sitemonitor please link the other threads so newbies to this thread can see and learn about the discussions and reference articles already posted related to this subject?

THANKS

Bill Clinton says if Hillary is elected President, he and President HW Bush will travel the world repairing the damage caused politically by W.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/17/bill-clinton-george-hw-b...

this is excellent news!
if you haven't signed, do so now.

miss_kitty @ 13:

FreedomOfInformationAct @ 11:

Questionable metrics indicates possible GOP interference with Wexler’s Congressional Records.
Isn’t that a FEDERAL OFFENSE and a Felony?
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29364&from=50&comments_per_pag...

Metrics are now being monitored on a 10 minute basis, but today there were visibly two drastic reductions in the vote tally, giving the appearance of outside manipulation or tampering. Given the serious nature of the allegations against Vice President Cheney, I have no doubt that the GOP would consider this cover-up, to go in conjunction with the Main Stream Media News Blackout about Cheney’s impeachment.

Source
http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

Wow. for a second there, I thought you were off-line

:lol:

just resting,

This is a huge issue, I needed to break away for a while. And the nature of the threads being temporary just isn't the best place to aggregate information about a given subject making it easier for discoveries to be lost and therefore some of the more complex parts of the subject (e.g. signature tally issues) may be more difficult to pinpoint.

Let's push the bar up to one million signatures. You can probably get that much by next week and those Republocrats are going to have to take notice.

he oughta send the results to harry reid.

they have almost 86,000 already.....I'd sign...but I already did...........c'mon people now......

I was shocked when no newspaper would publish the op-ed I wrote with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI). It is not every day that three members of the House Judiciary Committee set out a substantive case for impeachment hearings against the sitting Vice President. Yet, the national media yawned. No matter. The people have responded. Americans from all fifty states have signed up to support my call for hearings.

He shouldn't be, the Corporate Media have a vested financial interest in perpetuating the Bush regime. Their man at the FCC, Republican Kevin Martin, is ramming through new regulations allowing newspaper conglomerates to also own the radio and TV channels in your hometown thereby monopolizing all media outlets in local areas. We will be allowed to hear one voice, one opinion: That of elite and corporate interests.

purvis ames @ 20:

Let's push the bar up to one million signatures. You can probably get that much by next week and those Republocrats are going to have to take notice.

That would be tough with no media coverage................well.........KO...what are ya gonna do?

[Deleted. Don't post in ALL CAPS-Sitemonitor]

Signed. I guess this means the NSA will get to listen to me order Chinese now.

All right people let's get behind him and DO this!

Just look at these two other C&L threads, they indicate that we reached 80,000 almost 12 hours ago. How can it possibly only be at 85,000 now when they were adding 1-2 per second?
Do the math people, and don't use Karl's Calculator!

1st thread
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/15/congressman-wexler-calls-for-ch...

2nd thread
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/16/wexlers-goal-of-50000-signature...

Current thread
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/17/cl-exclusive-rep-wexler-thanks-...

I live in florida, wexler is my rep. I've emailed him about this about 3 years ago. Better late then never, I guess. But I have this little itch in the back of my head that this is just a relection scheme.

I hope Wexler runs against Mel Martinez for FL senate when Mel's term is up

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

Time is running out. Only about 11 Months before Bush says,

Thanks Suckers. Have fun cause it ain't my problem no more.

Let us all pray he does NOT engage NSPD 51 before those 11 months are up
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18591.htm

Truth B Told @ 17:

Bill Clinton says if Hillary is elected President, he and President HW Bush will travel the world repairing the damage caused politically by W.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/17/bill-clinton-george-hw-bush-will-help-president-hillary/

there isn't a single republican in america who will cross over and vote for hillary clinton. the mere thought of addressing slick willie as "first gentleman" will be enough to mobilize the entire army of orcs, come november '08.

i strongly suspect this is why rupert murdoch threw a fundraiser for hill.

The public is speaking and our elected officials are finally doing something...speaking out. This is just the beginning. Together we CAN make a difference.

Randi Rhodes radio talk show discussed it for two hours on Friday, you will find the link on one of the other two threads where i posted it earlier. Enjoy!

I think we easily already have over 115,000 but something is screwing up the metrics on Wexler's website. I hope the are monitoring the input coming in and if the numbers don't match, investigating for possible fraudulent activity.

The stakes could not be higher, merely the fate of this once great Democratic Republic!

No-one is above the law, and that includes Cheney and Bush. Hold them accountable for their crimes and malfeasance..

FRED P @ 25:

OK FIRST YOU WANTED 50,000 AND NOW YOU WANT 250,000....? UM ISNT THAT WHAT IS KNOWN AS RAISING THE BAR. FU%K THE 250,000 START THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS NOW!!! WE HAVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS!!! DO YOUR JOB AND IMPEACH THE FU#$ER!!!!

Last month there was that "rumor" that Pelosi would put Impeachment back on the table if she got 10,000 hand written letters. I sent mine.
Wexler asked for 50,000 signatures, we gave him 85,000-Now he wants 250,000?
F__K-IT, Lets give them 350,000 or 500,000!
Let's get rid of Dick-I am SO tired of Dick-And that's something else coming from a gay guy!

DailyKos Covers Impeachment Signatures Surpassing 90,000 over four hours ago!

Action: 90K Signed Impeach Cheney Petition; Will You?
by ammasdarling
Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 04:07:26 PM PST
On Friday, Representatives Wexler, Gutierrez, and Baldwin issued a joint call for hearings in the House Judiciary Committee about impeaching Vice President Cheney. All three sit on the committee. They wrote an op-ed column, but so far the MSM has ignored their call and not published the op-ed. It is important to note that the few polls that have been taken about impeaching Cheney have shown a majority for it.

Rep. Wexler posted an online petition to show support for the hearings. In just three days, 90,000 people have signed it. You can sign the petition (and read the op-ed) here.
With enough support, we will reach 100,000 signatures before noon tomorrow!
Sign here!
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/17/185312/92/606/423501

Best of luck to you, Rep. Wexler. Take these odious bastards to school.

I have a great fear that in actuality Cheney and Bush ARE above the law. So far my fear has been proven right over and over again for the last six years. NOBODY has been able to stop their train. Heroes like Dodd, Kennedy, Feingold, and Wexler fill me with hope.
THANK YOU.

I am signer 46,007. I think.

No, thank you congressman Wexler. Helping get this career asshole Chaney is our pleasure. Don't worry Dick, you'll get a fair trial, you evil fuck!

An impeachment of Bush/Cheney is a total non-starter as long as the United States Justice Department has been STACKED with Loyal Bushies who have no intention of prosecuting witnesses or agencies who refuse to testify or produce documentaion to support the charges. And it HAS BEEN STACKED with Loyal Bushies in this way. It would be a HUGE waste of time going into the next election year. I know all the arguments about how it's the bedrock of our democracy and all that. But there is simply no time for it.

The case for the impeachment of Bill Clinton began in earnest among the Republicans in Congress the day he announced his run for president in 1992. Two years is not enough time to impeach Bush/Cheney and still get other things done so they can show how much more effective a Democratic Congress is than a Republican Congress.

If you hate Repubicans so much, stop bashing the Democrats in Congress and the Democratic presidential candidates and vote for them against every Republican on the ballot next November. You want to really piss off the Bushies? Vote for Hillary Clinton and put her in the White House.

Why does Wexler need the media or our signatures in order for him to do his job and hold hearings into the obvious crimes of the Vice President? Just investigate him. The attention of the nation will come as the investigations commence. True story?

www.WexlerWantsHearings.com Pass it on.

Why not use a full-page newspaper ad for the op-ed?

It worked well for moveOn.org.

TheNextDylan @ 39:

I am signer 46,007. I think.

i was number 59

Are the dems beginning to come out of their coma? Just when I was about to pull the plug on my support. There must be a mistake. GO KUCINICH! GO DODD! GO WEXLER!

FORCE REID FROM "LEADERSHIP" POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Corporate Media Means No Real News
by Dave Lindorff (excerpt and link)
Monday Dec 17th, 2007 5:39 PM
Americans DEMAND impeachment hearings... where is the establishment media on this?
Photograph of Article Included!
(Readers of Indybay.org know what is happening!)
http://www.indybay.org/search/search_results.php?search=Lindorff

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/12/17/18467567.php

It's Me @ 41:

You want to really piss off the Bushies? Vote for Hillary Clinton and put her in the White House.

no, actually i'm not that vindictive toward republicans. i just want to get america back on track.

frankly, i don't give a rat's @$$ about the bush/clinton drama any more than i care who "won" between the hatfields and the mccoys.

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

but wouldn't that then constitute lying about his intentions, and thus committing fraud over such a serious issue as the Impeachment of the Vice President of the United States of America?

I pray and hope his is legit in his intentions, otherwise there could be a legal backlash for any shennanigans against him and his office.

larkztongue @ 36:

FRED P @ 25:

OK FIRST YOU WANTED 50,000 AND NOW YOU WANT 250,000....? UM ISNT THAT WHAT IS KNOWN AS RAISING THE BAR. FU%K THE 250,000 START THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS NOW!!! WE HAVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS!!! DO YOUR JOB AND IMPEACH THE FU#$ER!!!!

Last month there was that "rumor" that Pelosi would put Impeachment back on the table if she got 10,000 hand written letters. I sent mine.
Wexler asked for 50,000 signatures, we gave him 85,000-Now he wants 250,000?
F__K-IT, Lets give them 350,000 or 500,000!
Let's get rid of Dick-I am SO tired of Dick-And that's something else coming from a gay guy!

FYI- I signed this petition on Saturday.

"I was shocked when no newspaper would publish the op-ed I wrote with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI). "

Don't be shocked, Representative. After reading the news that made headlines today on the internet I sat down as usual around 6 pm surfing the TV for the local and national evening news. I watched some BBC news and then put on Brian Williams and Katie Couric to see what they were reporting about.

I felt as if I was watching recorded broadcasts from years past, mostly because the main stream media seemed out of touch with reality. I asked myself, "Do these people live on the same planet I live on? I saw nothing but fluff pieces and shallow reporting. It's as if the internet and the mainstream media exist on two different planets.

Is it any wonder why some people, especially the 25% who are still supporting this government seem to be out of touch with reality?

History is in the eye of the beholder.

FRED P @ 25:

OK FIRST YOU WANTED 50,000 AND NOW YOU WANT 250,000....? UM ISNT THAT WHAT IS KNOWN AS RAISING THE BAR. FU%K THE 250,000 START THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS NOW!!! WE HAVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS!!! DO YOUR JOB AND IMPEACH THE FU#$ER!!!!

how long have you been an asshole who sits at his computer doing nothing but bitching?

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

I saw that too!!! ( I guess alot of people in his state like to gamble!)....sure did want alot of personal info on the second page!

so yeah, I signed the petition.

Ho hum, ...oh me of little faith...

McDuff @ 51:

"I was shocked when no newspaper would publish the op-ed I wrote with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI). "

Don't be shocked, Representative. After reading the news that made headlines today on the internet I sat down as usual around 6 pm surfing the TV for the local and national evening news. I watched some BBC news and then put on Brian Williams and Katie Couric to see what they were reporting about.

I felt as if I was watching recorded broadcasts from years past, mostly because the main stream media seemed out of touch with reality. I asked myself, "Do these people live on the same planet I live on? I saw nothing but fluff pieces and shallow reporting. It's as if the internet and the mainstream media exist on two different planets.

Is it any wonder why some people, especially the 25% who are still supporting this government seem to be out of touch with reality?

History is in the eye of the beholder.

History is written by....the winners.

yogi-one @ 8:

We should prosecute Neocon Nancy for conspiracy to commit treason. She's a big reason the Dems haven't moved forward on this. I am completely, irreversibly convinced she she is a crook just like Darth and W. "Praying with the President" indeed.

You are so right. This woman (Pelosi) has completely failed in her duty to uphold the constitution.

It's Me @ 41:

An impeachment of Bush/Cheney is a total non-starter as long as the United States Justice Department has been STACKED with Loyal Bushies who have no intention of prosecuting witnesses or agencies who refuse to testify or produce documentaion to support the charges. And it HAS BEEN STACKED with Loyal Bushies in this way. It would be a HUGE waste of time going into the next election year. I know all the arguments about how it's the bedrock of our democracy and all that. But there is simply no time for it.

The case for the impeachment of Bill Clinton began in earnest among the Republicans in Congress the day he announced his run for president in 1992. Two years is not enough time to impeach Bush/Cheney and still get other things done so they can show how much more effective a Democratic Congress is than a Republican Congress.

If you hate Repubicans so much, stop bashing the Democrats in Congress and the Democratic presidential candidates and vote for them against every Republican on the ballot next November. You want to really piss off the Bushies? Vote for Hillary Clinton and put her in the White House.

In the last 20 years or rather 5 presidential terms, TWO families have controlled the White house-add 2 or 3 more years to that if you feel Reagan really wasn't at home in his second term.
Is it a good idea to put one of those two families BACK in the White House?

Thank you so very much.
The internet has brought us geographically closer.
250 shouldn't be a problem. The problem is with congress.

I believe there are actually two prerequisites to impeachment.

1. The official in question must be a Democrat.
2. The alleged offense must involve sex.

I'm sure it's in the constitution somewhere...

ralph @ 15:

I hope that the democrats are prosecuted someday for NOT protecting and defending the constitution.

I'd like to see someday come very soon. Once the Presidency has been wrestled away from the Republicans.

The main stream media should also be held accountable for their Orwellean treasoneous behavior.

dadams @ 52:

FRED P @ 25:

OK FIRST YOU WANTED 50,000 AND NOW YOU WANT 250,000....? UM ISNT THAT WHAT IS KNOWN AS RAISING THE BAR. FU%K THE 250,000 START THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS NOW!!! WE HAVE WAITED TO LONG FOR THIS!!! DO YOUR JOB AND IMPEACH THE FU#$ER!!!!

how long have you been an asshole who sits at his computer doing nothing but bitching?

He's only an anal orifice if he has not signed any petitions-and is the name calling REALLY necessary?

We need impeachment in order to protect our national security. The next president -- and congress -- needs to know the full extent of the Bush administration's activities in order to make good decisions regarding national security. Clearly the only possible way to get the truth from the Bush administration is to bring them into a legal procedure which will require sworn testimony accompanied by a clear explanation of the laws and punishments regarding perjury, and a stated commitment to executing those laws, in addition to the laws concerning the statute of limitation on the charge of treason.

Bookem Danno @ 59:

I believe there are actually two prerequisites to impeachment.

1. The official in question must be a Democrat.
2. The alleged offense must involve sex.

I'm sure it's in the constitution somewhere...

Yeah that's the seldom heard of 4.75th amendment. The same one that gives Bush the power to selectively ignore any parts of the Constitution he wants, defy the courts and the Congress and to laugh at anyone who would suggest otherwise.

Dear Senator Wexler,

Thank you for having the courage to pursue this in the light of Democratic fear.

Wish I lived in your District.

It's Me @ 41:

You want to really piss off the Bushies? Vote for Hillary Clinton and put her in the White House.

Well, that may (or may not) piss of the "Bushies" ....but if you wanna "piss off " the people who pull bushies strings...(military industrial complex)...(medical and pharma industrial complex)...(energy industrial complex)...ect...ect...dont vote for any of the top rated pre selected candidates.

(Hillary wants the war to continue remember?)

dont vote to just piss of Rush Limpaugh!...(that would be very shallow of you)...

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

It could be important to the people of his district. Perhaps it has proven a terrific revenue generator in his region. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Why should gambling be illegal anyway? Personally, I'm all for removing all statutes that make consensual behavior illegal.

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

Because he champions an issue you don't?

I vetoed, um I mean voted...

Karen @ 70:

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

It could be important to the people of his district. Perhaps it has proven a terrific revenue generator in his region. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Why should gambling be illegal anyway? Personally, I'm all for removing all statutes that make consensual behavior illegal.

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

Because he champions an issue you don't?

No. I do champion that issue. I signed the petition yesterday. Why do people have to polarize everything? Cause I am questioning a Dem I am a repub. But, if I question a repub I am a dem. Can't we all vote for what is best like impeaching Cheney to save our constitution or no legal gambling cause I don't want some moron robbing me to support his habit.

Karen @ 70:

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

It could be important to the people of his district. Perhaps it has proven a terrific revenue generator in his region. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Why should gambling be illegal anyway? Personally, I'm all for removing all statutes that make consensual behavior illegal.

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

Because he champions an issue you don't?

Sry was off the mark off what you said. No. It's because the issue he champions (I'm sure that word doesn't fit the context of legalizing gambling) is as absurd to enter into our national debate as it is for us to talk about baseball players doing steroids.

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

AlphaFactor @ 2:

250,000 signatories in a week...

And the Democrats want to avoid impeachment hearings... WHY????

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You misspelled "Not enough loyal Senate votes."

organmeat @ 73:

Karen @ 70:

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

It could be important to the people of his district. Perhaps it has proven a terrific revenue generator in his region. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Why should gambling be illegal anyway? Personally, I'm all for removing all statutes that make consensual behavior illegal.

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

Because he champions an issue you don't?

No. I do champion that issue. I signed the petition yesterday.

I mean the legalization of online gambling issue, not the impeachment issue. You were suggesting that his expressed desire for impeachment was insincere because he champions legalizing online gambling. I don't understand this. That's what I was asking about.

Why do people have to polarize everything?

That's a good question. I don't see how I was polarizing anything, though.

Cause I am questioning a Dem I am a repub. But, if I question a repub I am a dem.

I don't see how any reasonable reader could have inferred that from my words.

Can't we all vote for what is best like impeaching Cheney to save our constitution or no legal gambling cause I don't want some moron robbing me to support his habit.

I do not understand your question. How would legalizing online gambling put you in any greater danger of being robbed?

AlphaFactor @ 2:

250,000 signatories in a week...

And the Democrats want to avoid impeachment hearings... WHY????

As President Bush said: "Sometimes, money trumps... peace" And apparently everything else... including our Constitution.

yogi-one @ 9:

I am completely, irreversibly convinced she she is a crook just like Darth and W. "Praying with the President" indeed.

You are lying about a good person -- a far better person than you in all likelihood. And if you didn't know that Catholics pray for their enemies, then you ignorance is even larger.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Nancy_Pelosi

organmeat @ 76:

Karen @ 70:

organmeat @ 48:

Part of Wexlers campaign for congress is "LEGALIZATION OF ONLINE POKER
AND GAMES OF SKILL" WTF!!! I smell lobbyists. How is this important to everyday Americans?

It could be important to the people of his district. Perhaps it has proven a terrific revenue generator in his region. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

Why should gambling be illegal anyway? Personally, I'm all for removing all statutes that make consensual behavior illegal.

I am starting to suspect that Wexler may only be doing the Cheney Impeachment thing to get donations on his website.

Because he champions an issue you don't?

Sry was off the mark off what you said. No. It's because the issue he champions (I'm sure that word doesn't fit the context of legalizing gambling) is as absurd to enter into our national debate as it is for us to talk about baseball players doing steroids.

Okeedoke...previous comment retracted. :)

I respectfully disagree with your assessment, though. While I agree that legalizing online gambling is hardly the most pressing issue our country faces right now, to me, it's just another civil liberties question. I see no reason for it to be illegal, but it is illegal.

Steroids in baseball, however, is flat out irrelevant to the affairs of government.

I also still don't understand how his campaign to legalize online gambling in any way undermines his credibility or sincerity vis-a-vis impeachment.

yogi-one @ 9:

We should prosecute Neocon Nancy for conspiracy to commit treason. She's a big reason the Dems haven't moved forward on this. I am completely, irreversibly convinced she she is a crook just like Darth and W. "Praying with the President" indeed.

Pelosi might be a disappointment for various reasons, but your irreversible conviction is -- to put it politely -- way over the top.

Precisely what evidence even convinces you the Speaker is a neo-con, much less a crook? Indeed, she refuses to move ahead with impeachment, and I disagree with her about this. Nevertheless, Pelosi is clearly a progressive. Even a brief skimming of her record would reveal this.

Karen @ 78:
I do not understand your question. How would legalizing online gambling put you in any greater danger of being robbed?

Here's how http://www.dailyherald.com/story/print/?id=96597 I love Gov. Rod Blagojevich but someone who works for him robbed the tax paying citizens because of his gambling problem. And is robbing the public of their trust in a good Gov.

LibertyLover @ 79:

As President Bush said: "Sometimes, money trumps... peace" And apparently everything else... including our Constitution.

COUNT THE VOTES.

I've changed my mind, and now support sending a Cheney impeachment to the floor and to the Senate. That in NO way means that the Senate will convict -- it doesn't stand a chance.

So, actually, you are setting yourself up for a fall. We are 40 votes shy of a conviction in the Senate. Since R and DINO are blocking a lot of good House legislation (like the enviromental bill, or withdrawal restrictions on Iraq funds, etc.), and since the Speaker and Chairman Conyers should not be blamed for the need to repair the Congress before splitting it down the middle, I think that purpose has been fuilfilled, and a conviction-failure in the Senate won't function as an excuse to close the Congress and enter into a TRUE tyranny, after some sort of terror "attack." Which is probably on our list of painful experiences already anyhow.

My support for Speaker Pelosi (and Chairman Conyers) continues without reservation. And that's because I have actually followed their careers, and know what excellent representatives and persons they are. Disaffiliated leftists, by contrast, just want to be free to speculate and slander without recourse to the facts.

We all need to help get the word out and advise our friends about the Wexler Hearings for Cheney Impeachment Project. If there was just minimum media assistance, the support number could easily challenge some of the popular themes on YouTube, that eclipse 7-figures. The Wexler Hearings for Cheney Impeachment Project is a very good way to teach students about the US Constitution and explain to them that our Representatives sometimes have obligations to the United States as Statesman and not just Politicians. The timing for this Constitutional exercise could not be better, as these hearings would be the perfect prelude to the 2008 Election. At the absolute minimum, the Wexler Hearings for Cheney Impeachment Project will provide a nice footnote for this grim period in our countries history.

please, just keep your eye on the ball, here, and sign the damn thing! ONE MILLION is not out of reach. With that kind of support, Pelosi will have to listen.

organmeat @ 83:

Karen @ 78:
I do not understand your question. How would legalizing online gambling put you in any greater danger of being robbed?

Here's how http://www.dailyherald.com/story/print/?id=96597 I love Gov. Rod Blagojevich but someone who works for him robbed the tax paying citizens because of his gambling problem. And is robbing the public of their trust in a good Gov.

That article deals with a person robbing the public in order to pay for his illegal gambling.

People are going to gamble without regard to its legality, especially the addicts. And it's the addicts who are likely to steal in order to cover themselves in desperate situations.

Legalizing and regulating online gambling would have, at worst, no net affect on your chances of being robbed, and at most, a positive one, given that whatever taboos regarding admitting one's addiction and receiving help for it might begin to break.

I see no reason for consensual behavior to be illegal. Drug use, prostitution, gambling, etc. Their illegality costs all of us in wasted resources (vice cops who should be patrolling streets for violent people instead; tons of money down the drain of the already-stressed criminal justice system) and overcrowds our jails with people who may not have been violent upon entering, but likely will be upon exiting.

Paul in LA @ 80:

yogi-one @ 9:

I am completely, irreversibly convinced she she is a crook just like Darth and W. "Praying with the President" indeed.

You are lying about a good person -- a far better person than you in all likelihood. And if you didn't know that Catholics pray for their enemies, then you ignorance is even larger.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Nancy_Pelosi

In my book 97% of republicans suck...83% of democrats suck. (Nancy is included in the "suck" category)...oh me of little faith...(I hope she loses it to Cindy Sheehan)

Odus @ 65 "The next president -- and congress -- needs to know the full extent of the Bush administration's activities in order to make good decisions regarding national security."

Go fish. If you think these facts aren't already known, they aren't going to be revealed by an impeachment trial.

"Clearly the only possible way to get the truth from the Bush administration is to bring them into a legal procedure"

A Senate trial is NOT a legal procedure, other than as that body is legally engaged in its business/duties. Conviction has ZERO consequence other tha