Bill Kristol is rewarded for being "wrong" on everything: NY Times gig is a comin'
By John Amato Thursday Dec 27, 2007 8:45pm
William "the Bloody" Kristol gets rewarded with a gig by the NY Times for being a neocon---warmongering---psycho. The MMSSSMMM RULES!
Check out C&L's awesome video archives to see the madness that is "Kristol"
Here's David Sirota's response via email:
This is really sick - especially when you consider it is happening at a time when the country is clearly moving more progressive, and there are so many good progressive columnists who have guest columned for the Times before (Ehrenreich, Katha Pollit, Tom Frank, etc.).
Either way - it is an absolute abomination from the standpoint of basic accountability. A pundit being factually wrong on almost everything he hung his hat on is rewarded by the largest newspaper in the world for his track record. If ever there was an example of the world of journalism literally thumbing its nose at basic accountability, this example of Bill Kristol falling up is it.
Well said, David!
Login or Register to post comments.
Just what we need. Another whiny smug ass-hat chickenhawk whose voice sounds like he has a plug up his behind.
The NYT must be getting desperate. Kristol is a ghoul.
That's conservative "meritocracy" for yah. Get it all wrong, help create an epic disaster, and get rewarded for it.
Conservatism is a friggin joke.
Otay @ 1:
I wouldn't call him that. I would call him the DEFINITIVE "smug ass-hat chickenhawk whose voice sounds like he has a plug up his behind."
And the neocons will continue to point to the NYT as a bastion of liberal journalism.
looks like a massive subscription cancellation is needed here.
if they want to be a reichwing pundit pulp rag, then it's time to show them what it costs.
i am canceling my subscription now.
"Honey! Come quick! I have figured out how to be rich! I'll just be wrong!"
Just when you think the NYT has gone all neo-con with Richard Brooks they respond by doubling your guantanamo with Kristol.
Well Murdoch helped "William the Great" start the Weekly Standard. And it's no secret The New York Times is Murdochs next buyout-takeover target.
Crazy Stuff
Wow. First "turd blossom" Rove and now "Bloody" Bill... it's like getting a sweet gig shitting all over some institution of American journalism is the new Medal of Freedom. So exactly how bad WOULD you have to screw things up to get the Medal of Freedom, a back-patting "heckuva job" from King George II, AND a nicely paid propaganda soap-box at the NYT or Time?
Another NYT columnist to ignore - Dowd, Brooks, Kristol....
Goodbye NYT
mr. kristol has a great deal of work ahead of him. the orchestration will be sublime and successful. we will be listening to israel much more this year to come. god help us.
It's pretty good way to get a scoop on the next invasion of the wrong country on the Times part.
Look on the bright side. Think how much fun we’ll have making fun of his editorials and writing all those letters to the Editor. And think of the jobs created in the mailroom and retraction departments. Every cloud has a silver lining or something.
I don't read any of those foreign newspapers.
They can know add condescending, to their other adjectives...
Look at it this way.
With Kristol on the editorial page, anyone else will look moderate-to-liberal-or-sane by comparison.
Et voila! Balance has been achieved. Sort of.
latest out of pakistan: bhutto died in her sleep of a massive heart attack.
Note to NYT:
What is F$%king wrong with you!?!
You don't have to balance thougthful with moronic, credible with uninformed, or journalism with "just making shit up". What's next: Anne Coulter in the 'Living' section?
Unbelievable.
-QM
Why does my local paper put Jonah, Will, Cal, Krauthammer on their op-ed?
Simple.
These are the door jams that keep wide open the idiot nation.
Gosh darn that liberal media.
After Richard Pearl, Kristol is the guy I can't stand listening to.
It appears that merit means nothing to the editorial page of the NYT.
This is part George Orwell, part Lewis Carroll.
This just reinforces even more strongly the need to keep the internet open and easily accessible by all, regardless of how much money you might be willing to fork over in order to have access to internet news. This will be the final frontier that corporate-controlled government will take over, before we're finally completely ensnared. If you don't understand this, you are naive as hell.
Brooks, Kurtz, Kristol, Goldberg .... the list goes on ....
The CorpsMedia commentariat is a sheltered workshop for the otherwise unemployable relatives, stepchildren, and in-laws of influential men.
It is a Goodwill Industries for the hyperadvantaged less-than-able elite.
Once again. This is WWF. The NY Times wants to be relevant and wants an audience, which means they increasingly require controversy in order for people to read the op-ed pages. If the NY Times put a mainstream conservative, who isn't wrong about everything, into their columnist rotation, very little notice would be made. However, by hiring Kristol, the Times infuriates the progressives. These progressives, aside from giving a lot of free press to this, will regularly read Kristol in order to attack him. They read him, the attack him and link to his column, and the NY Times gets a lot more readers and traffic. Good for the bottom line!
If we as progressives can't see through this, then we may not be as prescient as we like to advertise we are.
rjj @ 25:
Actually, I thought it was a whorehouse.
Can't we flood the NYT with emails to cancel subscriptions if he is hired?
Yeah well, NY Times was printing the lies right along with him for awhile there.
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present your corporate media.
Do you understand the deeper meaning of this promotion?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18960.htm
...
Oh good! Another newpaper to line the garbage can with, or that my imaginary cat can piss on rather than on the floor. If the NY Times sinks that low as to hire this mealy mouthed, poor excuse for a human being, that is all the paper will be worth. He didn't get those lips from licking apples that is for certain.
[Bill Kristol} "should be ashamed of himself, I don't know if that's possible."
Linda @ 32:
This 'base' human emotion of 'shame' has been selectively bred out of Billy.
Oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
What the hell is the NYT thinking? Are they so desperate for "balance" that even a pompous jackass who couldn't predict 6 o'clock at 5:30 is now welcomed into their pages?
My hometown paper, the Chicago Tribune, features on its op-ed page George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Victor Davis Hansen, Kathleen Parker and a local jackass named Dennis Byrne, who does things like defending a local refinery's decision to dump more pollutants into Lake Michigan. On the other side, they have Leonard Pitts and Molly Ivins, until she passed on; then they replaced her with Garrison Keillor.
That's five to two. Well, the letters to the editor column regularly ran complaints about Ivins and now runs them against Keillor. I guess it's a testament to the power of whining.
You make it sound like Bloody Bill's job is to predict something... he is paid to say whatever it takes to help along the illegal actions of our Government. At that, he is quite successful and probably has more than a promotion coming.
damn liberal media. . .
I refuse to line the kitty litter box with Kristol's lunatic and criminal rantings.
jfr @ 28:
These papers have long-since known that controversy sells better than truth.
goodbye NYT is right.
These guys are selling out the country for the almighty(?) dollar. I'm thinking that it may well be their own undoing. . . watch them unravel. . . heh heh heh. . .
You all can’t really be surprised at this can you? Oh that’s right, there are some “progressives” that still believe in the “War on terror”! My bad!
Brought to you by the republicans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIiNOFJ1NU
I have e-mailed the times that my subscription will be canceled should he be hired. I will follow through on this promise.
Welcome to the new world order where the banal and the mediocre are given creedence over wisdom, wit, integrity and honor.
I would say that we are in a world of trouble in America and the chances of maintaining even a resemblance of democracy is tenuous indeed.
This isn't even remotely surprising, being that reactionary political punditry that infuriates people sells almost as well as sex.
But it really does illustrate that "journalism" has apparently devolved into "free-for-all commentary marketing" in the US. Seriously, if you were to use ANY metric of "able to foresee things that haven't happened yet" as a prerequisite for being an "expert" on a subject--any subject--half the people employed in US major news outlets would have been fired a decade ago.
Imagine if your stock analyst was that consistently wrong. Or your doctor. Or your car repair person. Or any student in the country taking a test. Of course, our president has been that consistently wrong for his entire career at anything at all, but then it's Dick who's doing the thinking, and Dick obviously knows what won't work (see: Iraq Quagmire, 1990s), he just does it anyway.
Heck, imagine if on-the-street reporters were that inaccurate: "It's safe to come back into New Orleans now, I can now see the hurricane isn't going to be such a big deal." as the water rises behind him.
Of course, that last one isn't very true either, when you look at most of the reactionary or spoon-fed "reporting" these days from embedded "journalists" and such.
Huffington Post has banned comments for this story, looks like it's getting nasty.
He's a bafoon who is always wrong. Who better to represent the neocons?
Only thing Kristol should be writing are Society Pages
Somehow you was all kinda cheap 'n wrong
Just like in a lotta small towns
Where folks like you
Hang around too long
And pass out jobs to yer relatives 'n such
So you all keeps a lot, 'n nobody else
Ever gets too much...to speak of...
So what? What can you say?
Russ Mason UK @ 45:
It can't get nasty enough, that walking twit, filled to the brim with shit is not qualified for anything without his daddy's money, and I would venture to say that I could write a better column for the NYT than he could ever hope to, I am smart, intelligent, and filled with the wisdom of 66 years, but the dagger falls because I have no money or influence, just one of thousands who could do a better job than this incompetent chickenshit hawk sans balls.
Do what I do. The LA Times has Jonah Goldberg as a regular columnist ever Tuesday. I make sure to NOT buy the LA Times on Tuesdays. There are plenty of other sources to get news and opinions nowadays.
Hit them in their wallets.
So much for being the paper of record, the idea of brooks, friedman and kristol smirking their bum steers at us, will make for a lot of carpet for bird cages. Pathetic,
For the life of me, I don't understand how these 'people' receive, and retain this face time.
Smart move NYT, you just caused Murdock to up his bid for your rag. Many birds are happy to get fresh dodo paper tho.
trying to sink to WaPo standards the NYT picks Kristol who is on par with assclown Glen Beck.
He's a fucking idiot. I hope that rag the Times sinks like a stone. I'm progressive leftist and believe me I used to respect the Times. I know they got worked over before with the Judith Miller shit but now I'm convinced the Neocons have infitrated fully. They have sold their souls to have editors who would choose to employ that fool. Good riddence to them. The road to hell is paved with the blood of many fools.
The neocon agenda is so past and yet the NYT wants to resurrect it? This makes no sense. It rewards a man who has been wrong on all of his predictions. His latest is that Dick Cheney will be the surprise "compromise" nominee of the Republicans and that he will win in November. It is beyond belief but nothing is beyond the pale for William the Bloody.
If you've got one, cancel your subscription to the NY Times.
It's the decent thing to do.
Give them a piece of your mind:
Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Chairman & Publisher:
publisher@nytimes.com.
Scott H. Heekin-Canedy, President, General Manager
president@nytimes.com.
facta non verba
San Francisco, CA
NY Times has always been in the tank for the corporatocracy that is our country. They have a one good columnist, Krugman, the rest can go to hell. Especially the so-called liberals: Rich, Friedman and Dowd. These guys can always be counted on providing ammo for right-wingers at just the right time.
Well, I've known for a long time that the Times wasn't as wonderful for the left as the Reich like to whine that it is - but I'll never buy it again. With readership dropping like a rock for the lot of them - even the NYTimes - they must be feeling desperate for new readers.
Don't they know the 24%'ers can't read?
*
f the Times for "proving we're not a liberal paper" A rightie can say the earth is flat and the times will say "we have to let both sides make their case"
Consider this: How much airplay do you think Kristol would have in a world which wasn't war-torn? The man is a ghoul. He will always guide people towards warfare, because he literally feeds off it.
The man needs to retire his bag of tricks, and let someone else have his seat. He's done nothing for the USA. He's done much for Israel.
The Times' primary interest remains Israel. Always has been. Always will be.
Sick Willie, Neocon and son of Irving, just fills a requirement.
Hey, after not reading it in any substantial or meaningful way for over a decade (except for the crossword puzzles), I'd consider having to work there punishment, not a reward.
Wow, I didn't think the NYT would sink so low for business. They must be desperate for new readers.
I think Mark # 61 has it right. For anyone that is interested, Edward Hoagland wrote a Memoir Called COMPASS POINTS, and in it he relates how he was married to Marion for some 25 years, who was the administrative assistant to Norman Podheretz the editor of COMMENTARY. He relates how he watched the turning from the Democrats and liberal establishment to the hard core conservatives of the Republican party, because it was becoming evident that the Dems were much too fickle and easily swayed when it came to supporting Israel. The Republicans were much more stay the course adament and could be depended on to continue support for Israel no matter what. Interesting section in the book and most of it occurs in discussions at various cocktail parties in the mid-eighties attended by Podheretz and friends. Wonderful book as well. Great Read if your interested.
I am canceling my NY Times subscription. This is an obscenity. Send the NY Times as message. Say goodbye. If there is no consequence for stupidity than they can merrily continue to subject the American people to a propagandist of the worst kind.
I guess the NY Times feels you can never be too wrong on anything.
His lips are NASTY!
It says a lot about the NYT's credibility and opinion of the the public they are suppose to serve by hiring a proven neo-con hack who has a miserable track record. Has anyone noticed how most of these conservative slugs have eyes that are too close together and have looks on their faces like a dog who suffers from coprophagia?
Rumor is, he and Tom Friedman have a thing.
Well, he does have a perfect record at prognostication.
He's the George Costanza of punditry. Just do the exact opposite of whatever he advises or predicts and you can't go wrong.
Ron Paul is a nutcase but he's the best republican running for president.
Newspapers are a dying breed anyway, most people I know get their news online these days.
I keep forgetting...are we liberals supposed to like the NYT or despise it? On one hand they sit on Bushco's illegal wiretapping story for a year, and then, after they finally publish it, Air America radio hosts are doing commercials for it. I got a call once asking if I wanted to subscribe. I told the caller, "I don't live in New York, so it's irrelevant." and hung up. Now that they're hiring William the Bloody, I think I made the right choice.
JUST WONDERING - DO YOU DISAGREE?
William Kristol is a loud-mouthed bastard with no balls -- he is a coward par excellence, an intellectual pussy, and a major-league asshole. Plus, everything he says is a lie. AND HE HAS NEVER PUT ON A UNIFORM FOR AMERICA.
Personally, I don't care that William Kristol is an obnoxious, screaming, cowardly asshole (which he is). What I object to are the multitude of lies that fly out of his mouth without verification. You have chosen a teller of lies to be your columnist. Shame on you. You should know better. The fault ultimately lies with you and not with him.
He is ugly and a liar and you are ennabling him.
JOURNALISTIC CULPABILITY -- I'M TALKING TO YOU
Remember that Pinch Sulzberger totally supported the insupportable lies and BushCo transcriptions of Judith (Ms. WMD) Miller and Michael (Mr. Aluminum Tubes) Gordon which fanned the flames of the War on Iraq. Now, he hires a total flaming (and personally cowardly) asshole like William "the Bloodthirsty and Perpetually Wrong about everything Neocon" Putz Kristol to further defile the integrity of the New York Times. P.S. I don't take physical courage lightly, but I couldn't find courage of any kind with Mr. Kristol. He's definitely a military malingerer and a total coward. I don't care so much about you, because you didn't declare yourself a military volunteer. Still, something definitely went sour in the Sulzberger gene pool this last generation.
Same with the Grahams at the Post. Katharine Graham died with more balls than her own son has now. Judging from his retention of Hiatt, it may be too late for him to grow any of his own. He may indeed be the heir with no hair.
Unfortunately, at the L.A. Times, the scion was the setting sun of progress (Otis Chandler made the L. A. Times into one of the nation's great newspapers before his useless, John Birch, right-wing, stock-bond clipping cousins sold out to the useless and ineffectual Tribune Co. of Chicago -- and toward nowheresville).
Funny, isn't it, none or our preeminent newspapers would hire the late, great Thomas Paine now, the man who set the stage and the stakes for the American Revolution, and yet they'll hire effete, cowardly, intellectual bottomfeeders like Kristol or Brooks or Broder or Boot or Krauthammer and their odious ilk (all of whom have approved the War on Iraq and numerous other criminal acts by our Bush-league government). These "men" are all limp-wristed neocons who have never put on the uniform of their country and yet they tell other (poor and minority) people that they must fight for "freedom and democracy" so that the United States has access to Oil in the Persian Gulf. When you think of these people, remember that they are sniveling, physical cowards (picture Kristol or Brooks or Broder or Krauthammer or any of these punks with a gun in his hand and think how easily you could take it away. These people are the true picture of right-wing "pansy power" -- "faeries of the gun imagination").
Please remember that Bush and Cheney had designs on Iraq before 9/11 (since their first Cabinet meetings in 2001-- see Don O'Neill and since the Secret Cheney Energy Task Force --which was all about divvying up the Iraqi oil fields). We know now that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and yet Bush and Cheney kept selling their lies. Aren't you people at least ashamed?
William Kristol is a poisonous pustule on the face of humanity. His enablers like Pinch Sulzberger are the producers and underground purveyers of this virulent political puss.
Where does it end? Obviously, newspapers are your playthings. But don't you people think you have any responsibility to truth, to justice, to the American people?
Or, as it seems, are you happy to publish the ugly posturings of right-wing welfare babies (the Podhoretzes, the Kristols, the Kagans, the Goldbergs, and their loathsome ilk)? Where are the voices of a true progressive America -- Glenn Greenwald of Salon, Digby of Hullabaloo, David Sirota?
We, the American people, are much more liberal and progressive and caring about other Americans than you think we are. We oppose the War on Iraq by more than 70% and yet you don't figure that into your polls.
The Washington-Beltway media paved the way to a Bush victory in 2000 because they thought Al Gore was "wooden". Well, yes he was, but isn't that better than a President who is a total mind-fuckingly stupid person who would get us into a totally unnecessary, bloody war that is going to cost our children more than 3 trillion dollars?
Still with me? George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are still the main culprits in this debacle -- but the mainstream media, particularly the Washington Post, the NY Times, and the L.A. Times, share in the culpability, because you people had to know that Bush and Cheney and all of their minions were lying, at every step of the way.
Myself, I knew just from reading betwen the lines of the papers I was reading in 2002 (the L.A. Times and the NY Times) that Bush was taking us inexorably to war. Neither paper announced it, but I could tell. The troop movements alone proved it, before any UN resolutions.
Still, Bush and the NT Times and the L.A. Times and the Washington Post lied (in keeping with "official" policy). It's one thing to have your government lie to you (with Bush, it's expected), but to have the three most important newspapers in our country lie at the same time is unforgiveable.
You may have had lying stenotypists in your midst (Judith Miller and Michael Gordon of the NY Times, Sue Schmidt of the Washington Post, in addition to journalistic quislings like Howard Kurtz and Wolf Blitzer), but there is still no excuse for the spineless journalistic reactions to Plamegate, Libbygate, et. al.
None of the big three of newspaper journalism have shown any backbone, any cojones, any heart in the last seven years opposing the "Mayberry Machiavellian" rule of the ever stupid George W. Bush or the ever evil Dick Cheney.
We, the American people, expect better.
Every party needs a clown.
Gosh, I just checked, and I can get the NYT delivered to my door for $576 a year. Now that Bill 'the bloody' Kristol is doing columns for them, that seems like a real bargain...
Bill Kristol.
un freekin believable.
Let the NYT die a quick death
What's the big deal? They don't call the Times the Grey Lady for nothing (as in senile). Its editorial pages are already ridiculous, so what's so important about the addition of another clown? Just remember; the Times is and always has been one of the worst excuses for cutting down trees on the planet.
The main thing is to let NYT know how we all feel about this, and buy as many newspapers as we can cary every day. Or not.
I wouldn't sweat it too much. Print is dead. The old models are dead. How many daily newspapers did New York have just 50 years ago, and how many does it have now? The NYT is just hanging on, but it's time has passed along with all of the others. Even 24/7 cable news is dying out. Their audience is getting smaller and smaller and all they are doing is fighting over the percentages of that ever shrinking pie. Why do you think CNN is becoming Fox News? Because the television news audience is older and more conservative and that is who CNN and Fox are fighting over.
More and more people are turning to the internet to get their news and information and they are getting it from a myriad of places and don't have to listen to the talking heads trying to distract them from what is really happening.
Like with everything else, I think 2008 is going to be a watershed on all of these things. Reality shit is fixing to hit the neocon fantasy fan, and then we will see their model of "making their own reality" for what it is. As people are thrown out of their homes, as inflation (yes, I said inflation) hits the roof, as we head into a depression the likes of 1929, then all of the neocon fun will be over. People aren't going to have the time nor the inclination to listen to their shit. People will wake up to the fact that the neocon agenda has screwed the economy so badly and the middle class especially that I think there will be an actual revolt against these people.
You know, during the great depression, there was actual fear among the upper classes that we would have a revolution like in France. The only thing that kept that from happening was elections. We could change course by throwing out the people who got us into that mess.
It is time to throw them out again.
foolme1ns @ 78:
:I think you pretty much nailed it! - Maybe with the exception that the economic depression you mention won't necessarily need happen if the right people are elected next time around.
AConfederacyofDunces @ 30:
The 9/11 'WTC-Reichstag-Fire' was part of a Corporate & Political pre-conception of a New World Order to be. Ronald Reagan will be smiling in his grave, for he laid the groundworks under the Bush 1 & 2 Corpocracies, wich we now experiënce, day by day, Worldwide, as U.S. Fascism!
READ; "THE SHOCK DOCTRINE"! By Naomi Klein.
I wish every living creature the best for 2008, but I'm very pessimistic about the new-coming year. We'll see increased tensions hap-hazard violence inflaming more structural violence, CORRUPTION COMES AT A PRICE and the people, the "WE THE PEOPLE" will pay that price as long as they let themselves to be governed/corrupted by ELITE CRIMINALS! CORPORATE, POLITIC, MEDIA-ELITE-CRIMINALS! Intermingled in a WORLD-WIDE psychopatic greed-frenzied powerplay, ongoing creditcrunch, national debt rising, Observed and Scrutinized trough Home-Land-Security and unwarrented eaves-dropping and controled by Blackwater Gestapo, the year to come looks grim.
And next comes up that election, that 'socalled' Democratic Election, election of the demo-crazy is my understanding of that choreography of misleadings. Except for a few contenders they're all eye-deep into corruptive (anti-democratic) dealings with the judea/christian neo-angels on earth, THE LOBBYISTS! Liberal presidential contenders and the Conservative, except a few, are the two sides of the same coin, and that coin "THE MIGHTY U.S. $$ DOLLAR" is worth less and less, the dollar on the verge of a collaps, like-wise is a Political-Election-System that is fed by that same coin!
Again, I wish for all human beïngs in the World peace and prosperity, but the criminal-powerfull, our socalled leaders, have gone crazy (again) and are corrupted by the power they seek, we live in grim times.
1000 Clowns @ 64:
I think you're onto something. After the great fk up of the last 7 years isn't it time the Kristol/Podheretz/LIEberman crowd had LESS influence in America, and not another forum? Canx your NYT subscriptions; it's a start.
Good lord. So being right, ever, about anything, is no longer criteria for hiring?
i stopped taking the nytimes seriously when i couldn't find much of a thing reported on dodd's campaign even in the connecticut regional issues.
Isn't getting Kristol tons of public exposure actually a good thing? The more he is out there, making an ass of himself, the better, right? Like when Howard Stern has on Daniel Carver, or Letterman brings on Bill O. Getting these stinky piles of steamin' poop out into the sun surely is a good thing, unless one believes, as the Neocons do, that people are stupid. I think the Times is giving Kristol just enough rope.
C'mon now, dontcha' think the Kristol column will be perfect ... for HOUSE-BREAKING PUPPIES!
you folks need to get a life, no one reads the NYT anyway.
To celebrate Kristol's NYT assignment, the paper is changing it's masthead from:
'All the News That's Fit to Print', to
'All the Sh*t That Fits'.
dadams @ 6:
Their TV ads almost had me taking a subscription for the weekend edition--cheap. No thanks. I hope their stock tanks.
Preacher Boob @ 87:
How about "News That Gives Liberals Sh*t Fits."
I swear I've fallen down the rabbit hole. Someone please tell me how to get out.
First Babbling Brooks, now this neocon clown? The "noble lies" will be coming a mile a minute!
Didn't Murdoch just buy the NYT?
It was only a matter of time before they started loading it up with Fox-heads.
Kind've debunks the right wing rhetoric that New York Times is part of liberal/main stream media, if they hire a right wing propagandist, but then it might indicate they will hire anyone if they are controversial enough and might help their lagging sales and the paper industry is like the dinosaurs, a dying breed and will one day be extinct, if anyone really pays any attention too chicken hawk bloody bill crystal, then they are as brain dead as he is...as too the real world and live in right wing nirvana where they are the majority and everyone else is insignificant serfs too their elite ruling class....karma is a funny a think if bloody bill crystal is ever re-incarnated, he is likely too come back as a chicken to fit in with his chicken hawk present life status...