Hardball: Stephen A. Smith calls Giuliani "a dictator"; Buchanan calls McCain "Bush on steroids"
By SilentPatriot Sunday Jan 20, 2008 7:30pm
There is so much goodness in this short 2-minute clip that it's tough to know where to start. First we see the 9/11 Express (a.k.a Giuliani's campaign bus) taking a lap at Daytona, much to the delight of both Tweety and ESPN Radio's Stephen A. Smith. When the conversation moves to the Republican presidential field, Smith makes it pretty clear that he won't be donating to the Giuliani campaign anytime soon, while Pat Buchanan concedes Rudy's foreign policy would essentially be Norman Podhoretz's policy, but adds that he fears an increasingly "bellicose" McCain may be like "Bush on steroids" and continue a neo-conservative foreign policy.
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Buchanan: [Guiliani's foreign policy] would be a neo-conservative foreign policy. But I'm afraid McCain's will be as well, Chris. He's very bellicose, hes got that in-your-face attitude Bush does. I think we could very well be at war with Iran. That's one of the reasons why I've always been very skeptical of McCain -- I think he's Bush on steroids.
Smith: Giuliani is a dictator as far as I'm concerned.
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Stephen A. is a New Yorker and loathes Rudy. That seems to go hand and hand.
Stephen A. Smith is generally a complete idiot. Tweety must be pretty desperate for "commentators." However, I salute Smith's opinion re Guiliani.
Links seem to be dead... ;; = ll ?
No Democrat other than Kucinich will end the wars, end the overseas empire building
No Republican other than Paul will end the wars, end the overseas empire building, and roll back the loss of liberties and usurpations of the BOR.
I will take a UFO seeing or an alleged racist over all the other corporate shills.
After all, it was Washington himself who said he saw the end of the US in a vision, and it was racists and slave owners that gave us the Bill of Rights and a republican form of government - supposedly a limited one with three separate and COEQUAL branches.
link bad!
You know calling Giuliani “a dictator” and McCain “Bush on steroids" sounds pretty accurate to me.
Lets also add, Huckabee "An American version of Ahmadinejad", Mitt "A say whatever you want to hear liar", and Thompson is "An even dumber and older Bush"
I'm amazed Smith and Matthews didn't suffocate since there couldn't be enough oxygen in a room for those two blowhards. Pat Buchanan was the sanest and most well-mannered person on the panel. Yes, I actually typed that phrase about a borderline Nazi.
Derek @ 3:
Even putting the "ll" in it doesn't work...
maybe age is calming ol' patrick
wear da link at?
Truth B Told @ 4:
Edwards will.
Billy @ 8:
Try the WMV link.. it works with that.. try this
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hardball-Smith-Buchanan.wmv
Why was Tweety so eager to cut off Stephen A. Smith at the end?
A majority of Americans agree with him about his commentary on both Bush and the Rude Dog.
A little honesty in the face of universal puniditry deceit, a nice change of pace, thanks Mr. Smith for that
mo_dems @ 11:
No. He Wont.
He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He participated in the faux election of 2004 between Yalies Bush/Kerry and Skull n Bones Bush/Kerry. He is a made member of the US govt crime mafia.
Mark @ 6:
Bowed out after Nevada results. Ron Paul took silver, Mitt Romney took gold.
’tator’ was a last minute add-on.... pretty sure he was going for ’ a dick’
Rudy a dictator? Smith's got that one right. But I prefer Jimmy Breslin's quote that Giuliani is "a small man in search of a balcony."
“Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. ” - Rudy Giuliani.
A Giuliani presidency will equal a police state, period. Don't be fooled by his moderate leanings; he will be a dictator, period.
marie @ 17:
That's just about the most perfect thing I've EVER heard said of that 2 bit schlub.
odanny @ 13:
Is there ANY significance to Tweety saying:
..."Thanx to Stephen H. Smith for SLIGHTLY modifying your words...."
To which Smith Chuckles.
Izzit me or are their replies possibly more scripted and 'cleared in advance' before these Q+A's hit the air?!
Seems to suggest that to me. I didn't see what preceded this clip but it sure loox like it.....
Christopher Turkel @ 19:
Bingo.
You can be a fascist and find different targets than the traditional Nazi "Anti-Gay, Anti-Jew" targets.
Remember, Fascism is about finding a scapegoat; it doesn't matter WHO that scapegoat is. A Giuliani presidency would be blaming Muslims, Mexicans and Arabs for all the nations problems, justifying a total dissolution of privacy.
Clearly Rudy is undertaking a serious effort to reposition his campaign towards a more centrist position. Taking a leaf from Nascar he's turning left for a couple of hours. The video was sweet. If you could set that to music the LNMC would be covered.
odanny @ 13:
Tweety is eager to cut off everyone all the time, if someone else is speaking it means he isn't. Can't have that, which is why he is the worst interviewer/moderator on the planet.
Orangutan. @ 18:
Very 1984. May I ask where you found this quote?
JJohnson @ 21:
Do you think this fascism is just limited to the Republican wing of the Corporate party?
It isn't.
The type of conspiracy outlined by Eisenhower was smart enough to coopt both the parties. Go reread the speech itself... its a very robust and comprehensive infiltration.
What is it with Tweety? No matter what, he's got tofind a way to try and pump McCain. "Men of war who become men of peace after gaining power." Is Tweety on McCain's payroll or something? McCain is a craven politician who will do and say ANYTHING to be president and couch it in the staight talk (bullshit) express. I never agree with Buchanon the racist but he's right on this one--McCain wouldbe worse than Bush on foriegn policy. Hell. He's practically the walking dead right now--what does he care if he blows up the world....
Is this the first appearance of Screaming A. Smith on Tweety's show, or is (was) he a regular?
We are being swept up in the media choices for candidates. I find the situation so intolerable yet I am only one voice. We can't accept Hillary on past and principle, Obama is too young and lacks experience, for this election, Guilani too autocratic, McCain, Romney and Guilani will be happy to have perpetual war, Huckaby supports the Confederate flag (the symbol of the worst episode in US history) and on and on. I would like Edwards to have a shot at it because he sounds as though he supports middle America. Let him have his place in these early rounds.
Bush doesn't have an in-your-face attitude.. he has a I've-mistaken-my-ass-for-my-brain-again attitude
both Smith and Buchanan are correct
I'll say this, even though I hate Smith and Buchanan, there's no arguing with what they said. McCain is proving himself to be a shill for the Neo-Con agenda and Rudy is another George W. Bush.
Orangutan. @ 18:
thank you! you nailed in two sentences what rudy is about.
Tweety learned NOTHING last week after he got back from his oh-so-very-important-visit to see Jay Leno. He isn't sorry for anything he said and that was very evident tonight. He railed against Hillary and Bill and he kept interjecting them into the conversation with his guests. This ass has learned nothing. We should really keep the heat on MSNBC--he doesn't even try to be objective (and I am an Edwards supporter not Hillary) this guy is a complete waste of space and a buffoon.
Tomorrow he is sitting in for "Morning Joke".
Poor ol' Pat, he has to admit bush and the 'now' republican party are doomed. Smith knows rudeeee real well..doomed. I have 1 sock at home with tweetys name on it.
Orangutan. @ 18:
We'll know he's serious when the Horst Wessel Lied becomes his campaign song, and he gets our those Arbeit Macht Frei bumper stickers. Bet Rudy is really pissed the Third Reich went down. He missed his chance to be a Sturmbannfuhrer.
So, by my count, that's two people with ESPN ties that have stated on MSNBC that a Giuliani presidency would be a bad idea - Keith, and now Screamin' A. Smith.
it's hard to imagine that democrat corporatists might be the best option. . . we are sooooooooooooooo screwed. . .
is there anybody out there besides buchanan
a guy @ 27:
Absolutely, Matthews is America's ultimate spinmeister, smooth, charming, dangerous.
Isn't Rudy in, like, tenth place or something in the Republican ticket? Why is he even a topic of discussion? Edwards is a close third in the Democratic race and is dismissed across the entire media spectrum (including the awful liberal rag "Huffington Post" which never even mentions his existence). It's a shame most American's get their news from TV since it is the most manipulative and biased form of information this side of the Iron Curtain.
Truth B Told @ 26:
I agree it's not limited to the Republican Party and often feel Hillary would happily lead us closer to that awful destination but it's pretty damn clear that ALL the Republican candidates have that goal as their campaign pledge (excluding Ron Paul as he is frighteningly the sanest of the bunch over there).
Jared Wolfhope @ 1:
Yep. Pretty much.
gregster @ 40:
I wouldn't label a stuttering idiot who spews so much saliva when speaking, that he seems to be spraying more than talking, as "smooth."
The way he reacts when confronted images of old republican hacks with codpieces, giggling like a 15 yr. old girl who just got to touch the hand of the latest boy bander, also when he confronts some female guests he comes like some sort of creepy pedophile old fart. So again, I would not put him in the "charming" category.
He is a idiot, why people take him seriously is beyond me...
Peter G @ 25 asked about the source of this quote: 'Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. ” - Rudy Giuliani.
Very 1984. May I ask where you found this quote?"
It comes from a New York Times article on a Guiliani speech from March 20, 1994. Hope the link works:
Sorry, I'm new at this. Here's the link to the Times article quoting Guiliani:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A...
John McCain will be your next President, for the CORP:.,MAIN STREAM MEDIA and LIE-berman and FRIENDS DEAMED it so.
Giuliani sucks and McCain sucks. But if there is anyone on the face of the earth more vapid and inane than Chris Matthews, I don't know who it is.
Thank you Stefan B. That quote was so disturbingly fascist in tone that I hesitated to credit that it could be real. I wonder how that would play among certain elements of Republican party if it were put in their face more often. Of course, to the leadership of the evangelical fascists the idea has appeal since they always imagine themselves as the lawful authority to which we should all yield. There is however that dichotomous streak within the Republicans that says we should never trust the government. It is an instrument that they never tire of playing around election time. This quote would certainly strike a discordant tone with that philosophy.
Rudy Guiliani appears to be corrupt and lacking intelligence. John "100 More Years" McCain is showing his colors as a ruthless hardliner who will have a disastrous effect on foreign policy and America's image around the world.
I'd like to say Romney or Huckabee would be better, but... well... they're both frightening as well.
It's a sad commentary on the state of the Republican party that these guys, who are so far from mainstream thought, are considered to be "top runners".
Agree with both. Hope neither candidate make it to the finals!
Both commentators nailed the true nature of the two candidates.
Either would be for a disastrous continuation of the bush agenda. I don't think our fragile country could survive either one.
Vote any democrat in November. The republicans have to be stopped before they can do more damage.
Zenrage @ 30:
my-ass/my-brain- is in-your-face again
Now that's bush!
Eric in Ottawa @ 49:
They should be considered stop runners.
You know the country is teetering when a complete nut like Buchanan is the only guy talking sense.
Huckleberry Hounddogface continues to get a free pass on his racist remarks about the Stars and Bars. It's tripe to say it's a culture thing, cause if you see a pickup truck with a black man being dragged behind it in chains there is an overwhelming chance that pickup will either have a decal or a Stars and Bars license. Why do you think they only issue one tag in the south
I saw this segment and wondered how Stephen A. is qualified to comment on the topics discussed - I mean, more so than anyone else - but he was generally pretty sharp with his comments. I suspect that he was chosen because he rarely masks his views with polite language. If something is absurd, he'll say so.
Still, I'd rather listen to him talking Yankees baseball. :)
gdkzen @ 54:
This is what I find most scary about the Republicans this season. For the last few years it seems like the fundamental divide has been not so much between the social conservatives and economic conservatives, as between the reality-based and living-in-dreamworld camps. And it's kind of frightening that among the most prominent of the (more or less) reality-based group are Buchanan and Huckabee, two people whose opinions sound batshit insane to me, and who would cause me to immediately flee the country if elected president. Meanwhile, the ones who would have been considered farthest to the left (but still a long, long way off from my views, and who I would never ever vote for) - McCain, Romney, and Giuliani - keep pushing themselves farther and farther into dreamworld.
Truth B Told @ 4:
Geez... all the spin. Kucinich said he saw something in the sky and didn't know what it was. He didn't say that aliens got out of a ship conversed with him. I don't think Kucinich is crazy; it's amazing what saying you saw some something in the sky and didn't know what it was can be spun into.
And alleged is right. Until it can be proved that Kucinich said he conversed with little green aliens or that Paul said "I hate all them f***in n******" I'm not going to buy into the swiftboating and assume that Kucinich is perfectly sane and Paul is not a racist. Screw the media! They'd much rather we vote for a fascist imperialist dictator.
kudos to smith. he doesn't mince his words. Guilliani is a dictator. If he follows what we now have in the white house that would be an absolute disaster. we would have no foreign relations. we would be hated by all of the world.
the only negative i heard in the entire statement was that we would be hated by all of the world. truth be told, we already are.
Question when is smiling man chris matthews going to stop getting a free pass. the questions need to be redirected toward him. he then can answer them directly or sleeze away and reveal the spineless pretend journalist that i believe he is.
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news anchors and probing "journalists" have gotten enough free passes. we live in a new age and it's time to declare what side of the fence they sit.
Entropy - The breakdown of 'all' systems in nature.
Soooooo...tell me why again that there are people who would actually vote for this old man. Sorry folks, in my book, McCain is waaaaay too old to be President. We do not need an 80 year old President who will go along with the status quo. We need someone young and full of fresh ideas. JMHO
Rudy Giuliani is a great, brilliant leader who was one of the best New York City mayors ever.
Too bad that think his accomplishments are single faceted and related to 9/11. He turned a terrible economy around to healthy and he greatly reduced crime.
The reason he has gone down in the polls is because the democrats were quaking at the idea of his candidacy and mounted a preemptive strike against him throught the liberal media, grasping at every negative thing they could find.
Unfortunately it worked. His campaign has also been run poorly. Many people are not aware of his greatness as mayor.
If he doesn't get the nomination America will be the loser!
bill w @ 53:
Stupidity is rampant in this country and you're adding to it
Mike @ 63:
Mike @ 62:
Eric in Ottawa @ 49:
Christopher Turkel @ 19:
How stupid! you people think Hillary is some kind of saint, but Giuliani is corrupt. We have an enemy that wants to destoy us totally, but you fools just want to listen to the lying corrupt Clintons.
Mike @ 65:
Please check out this video of the former mayor
Rudy Giuliani avoiding questions duringhis 2005 deposition concerning Operation Refusal, his sorry crackdown on New York City's taxi drivers.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8723238961259319973&q=giuliani+t...
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