Tom Delay: Licking his lips and buggin' on John McCain
By John Amato Thursday Feb 07, 2008 11:01am
Tom Delay looked very shaky with Neil Cavuto yesterday afternoon as he slammed John McCain during the CPAC convention. He licked his lips and tore his politics apart saying that McCain flooded his supporters into the room so that he wouldn't get booed when he gave his big speech. Here's the play. The conservatives have made it quite apparent that they are willing to concede the the'08 election, (Ingraham said the same thing to O'Reilly) make believe they are re-grouping and after two years work on 2012.
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Bush and company have wounded their movement so severely that the Delay's and the Man on Dog Santorum's are cutting ties with them to try and become a viable option again. of course they supported his ever move, but they figure the media will turn a blind eye to that as the years go by.
George Macaca Allen was there too and you know that he would have been the Christian conservative of choice to run for president, but he had "that moment" which ended it for him and left a field so bad that Limbaugh was forced to root for Romney once McCain made his move. I was talking to Digby today and she told me that conservatives did the same thing with Bob Dole and they will do it now.
Do you get the feeling that the conservatives are gaming this thing? I knew that you would.
They know they are going to lose. They will blame the loss on the fact that McCain wasn't a real conservative (just like Bush.) They know when to fall back and regroup. They're already playing for the next election.
Everybody sing: Conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed.
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Willie Nelson had a public announcement a couple of days ago. Something about 9-11.
Delay is a common criminal. Nothing he has to say is of interest to me.
The 'cons have no intention of taking the White House this year. They made the bed, and they want the dems to lie in it.
Obscene filth...that is what the GOP is.
hate to break this to you, but if the dems go with Hillary, McCain is going to win. Hillary is Kerry 2008. If she is the Annointed One by the dem Establishment, better get used to the sound of President McCain.
Where are these criminals going to get all their support in the future if they blast their own party? Gonna make a third party? Or do they think an election really isn't going to change much anyway? Seems odd that they are shooting themselves.
slammin' sammy @ 3:
Yeah, right. 8 years of killing our economy and hundreds of thousands of people, and you think ANY 'con has a chance.
Live the delusion.
The Repubs would say this about any one of the 3 remaining candidates winning. The problem is their party has fragmented into the warmongerers (McCain) versus the religious-right loons (Huckabee) versus big corporations (Romney).
But they are just venting that they cant have all three qualities in a candidate this year. When push comes to shove, they will vote for any one of these Repubs over any Dem any day. And may well win.
Doesn't Delay have some cockroaches to exterminate? From a prison cell?
Bailin on 08??? Funny, I been thinkin the same thing... That's why they ain't really fightin the McCain thing all that hard I don't think.. They're willing to finally let him out of the backyard this cycle to shut him up..They don't really expect him to win.. Then they'll blame all the crap Bush has set up which will come to pass during the next four years on the Dems.... Even though the Dem prez will be spending the bulk of his/her administration on fixing seven plus years worth of Bush's fuckups...Not like they ain't done this before in one form or another when their shit has finally cought up to them and the public has temporarily awoken from its usual media induced saturation overload.....
They are banking on the American populations tried and true ability to slip back into its amnesiac coma within two or three years.... That's why the Meccacas and the man on dog types are beginning to troll around testing the waters.... Think they won't try to claim black is white and up is down again in 10 or 11???
Stay tuned folks, get ready for the mother of all political party propaganda reclamation projects to get underway even before the next president, whomever he or she is takes office.........JD
The media repeats whatever their conservodroid masters tell them to. People believe what they want to believe and considering how easily they made half of the US believe that Obama is a radical muslim in sheep's clothing I'd say these scum bag losers are probably correct in guessing that they can come back in a couple of years and pretend like nothing ever happened.
Unless something drastically changes between now and then.
I'm not holding my breath.
Otay @ 7:
I suspect he's already paid in full for his pardon should he need one.
Lollimom @ 5:
Oh that's right, I forgot. Hillary voted against the war all along. Not. She then voted to cut off funding the war, so your hundreds of thousands of people would not needlessly die. Not. She was also a strenuous opponent of Kyl/Lieberman. Not. She has also been at the forefront in publicly denouncing Bush's illegal expansion of executive branch powers. Not.
Who's living the delusion?
thanks c&l, now I need to find something to wash out that horrid image image of...*shudder*...tom delay's tongue.
Wow, how the botox has worn off Delay's face!
Well, whatever happens in November, we need to keep up keeping up, and make conservatism irrelevant for the forever future. Hopefully the Rapture will kick in and we won't have to worry about them.
slammin' sammy @ 11:
And McCain voted against the war and cut off funding? And absolutely no connection with Lieberman at all. Right?
I think you need to use a different argument why people will vote for McCain over Clinton.
I think Mr. Amato is right on the money. The party that was usually in lock step is now so fragmented and become so extreme in its ideological branches that all of its members can not get behind one candidate.
I also think that Cavuto was correct when he mentioned the fact that the Democracts seem to be more passionate and are turning out in larger numbers than the Republicans. This to is telling. Say what you want about Clinton or Obama but I think the Democrats will have a much easier time of rallying support for either nominated candidate than will the Republicans.
slammin' sammy @ 3:
actually hillary plays balls with the real power...just like bill did. mccain is a loose cannon. so they will go with hillary...we will see a few domestic policies change to give the appearance of liberalism...very few...nothing meaningful......foreign policy will stay the same...hillary will continue to destroy r freedoms with executives orders here and there....then next president comes along and...
and no obama won't get nominated...the super delegates will make sure of that...
Ignorant, criminally discredited, drunk mother fucker.
slammin' sammy @ 11:
You are, that's who. And you should live it silently. Grampa isn't going to win anything.
This pretty much says it all:
Lollimom @ 2:
I disagree with John on this piece. I think McCain can beat HRC and the polls show this as well. Granted, right wing talk hates McCain but I really think this is a ploy to draw moderates and some unaware Dems to his side. Dems winning in Nov. is no slam dunk and I'm worried as heck!
McCain winning was the best thing that could happen to these guys. Even if he wins they'll still have they're way and they don't have to give up any of their positions. If it was Romney this year he would've been destroyed in the general and would've ended their reign in the party.
Who gives a f*ck WHAT the bugman thinks? Shouldn't he be in jail by now anyway???
Hey, how 'bout that Faux News putting a "D-AZ" graphic under McInsane in their coverage of CPAC yesterday? F*cking propagandists.
Maybe when a dem is in the WH, the new FCC director will pull Faux' license!
Tom 'I just ate a frog like thing, just like Jabba' DeLay. What a fucking loser he is....
slammin' sammy @ 3:
I can't disagree more. AGAIN, Hillary has my Republican sisters in law vote. And my racist mom's vote. There is no way they will vote for Obama. Racism runs deeper than sexism. Why do you think Bill Kristol and Coulter say white women are a problem for the republican party. And with the mccain pissing off the border control freaks and the bible thumper crowd those security moms and soccor moms will hand us the white house. Frankly I love both Obama and Hillary. So bite me.
Yeah, what the Doc says...why isn't this criminal in jail?
Opinion:
If Hillary gets the nomination in a brokered convention, the rethugs will gain.
If she beats McCain, she'll spend 4 years dealing with the hopeless mess left by shrub, will be attacked relentlessly from right and left, and will shape up as another failed president.
If she doesn't beat McCain, the Democratic Party will destroy itself in a drawn out series of defections and internecine battles.
Either way, the rethugs will have a good chance in 2012.
One thing I have noticed since Tuesday is that most of the pukes here where I work are mighty quiet lately...
Why do I get the feeling that this whole anti-McCain campaign is just part of the plan? Call me a conspiracy theorist but McCain is no liberal. Not even close. They are doing this to get people to believe that McCain is the anti-Republican, IMO and I'm not buying it. An easy example is Hannity. He was on Giuliani's team but now somehow McCain is too liberal? Makes no sense. I smell Rove all over this one.
VietVet8666 @ 27:
Not if she runs with Wes Clark.
Thing Fish @ 15:
my argument is more that McCain will win because many democrats and progressives will not vote for Clinton, and that she will definitely not appeal to independents in the way Obama does. Any dem nominee will need independents, and the majority of them will not vote for her.
she represents the dem Establishment that even with a majority in Congress, continued to fold and kowtow to Bush on every real important issue.
I think she'd make a better president than McCain, but she will not win in November. She truly is the Kerry of 2008.
Delay is licking the insecticide off his lips.
I'm starting to get that impression too that many core Conservatives are ready to forfeit the general election. With all of the turmoil they face, I actually think that would be a pretty good idea being that McCain would set their party as a whole back if he was elected.
But there is one person who could prevent this from happening: Hillary Clinton
They hate her more than they despise John McCain, so if the Democrats nominate her, I see them turning out in record numbers to block her. Even if they can't stop her, they will at least get a split Congress in order to block anything she tries to do. The Democrats will be foolish not to nominate Obama....damn foolish!!!
jack damage @ 8:
...>>>They are banking on the American populations tried and true ability to slip back into its amnesiac coma within two or three years.... That's why the Meccacas and the man on dog types are beginning to troll around testing the waters.... Think they won't try to claim black is white and up is down again in 10 or 11???
Stay tuned folks, get ready for the mother of all political party propaganda reclamation projects to get underway even before the next president, whomever he or she is takes office.........JD
So sad.
So true.
Do you think they will also try with Jeb (shudder) in '12
c. atrox @ 32:
Could be. On the other hand, it could be that Delay is having a bout of butt kissing withdraw.
slammin' sammy @ 3:
So, so empty.
Amazonmum @ 30:
Opnion:
Wes Clark might be a good running mate.
But the public perception would be that Hillary was taking far more advice from Bill than from Wes.
Joe O. @ 16:
Rallying support? It's all a cycle. Reps for 4-8 years, Dems for 4-8 years. How can they not get support? And from reading all the left/Dem blogs online, it would be more than a bit hypocritical to say the Reps are fractured and fragmented, without realizing just how fragmented and broken the Dem party is. There will be many people vote for Dem, but it will have nothing to do with who the leader is, they just want a change from Rep rule, and there is no alternatives. That's it in a nutshell. Every nation in the Western world elects conservatives, and then liberals, and then moderates, and then conservatives etc, etc, etc......change is in the air, but it isn't because everyone supports the Dems. The Harper conservatives in Canada were elected more to kick out the Liberals, than to elect the conservatives. It's politics baby!
slammin' sammy @ 3:
You are absolutely right. I only hope that in the upcoming primaries people will realize this and vote overwhelmingly for Obama. There seems to be more talk in the media and more evidence in the polls to this effect. Maybe people will recognize this. Hillary will not get the Independent vote, but Obama will. Hillary will not get the young vote, but Obama will. On super Tuesday, Obama even out paced Hillary on the white mail vote. Obama will carry the vast majority of DEMs, whereas, with Hillary, many voters from all stripes will not support her.
bruce headrick @ 21:
Look at what the real message is. 2 weeks ago, Rush and Ann started saying that McCain is too liberal. Now a bunch of others are jumping on ship. The real message is that they think McCain will take away independant voters away from the democrats. They are trying to soften his image. Today, Romney got his message to drop out from the right wing establishment. He’s only following orders. I know that you are very smart and will spread this message. Don’t believe anything the right wing establishment says. They are the party of misinformation. Now organizers are telling the sheeple not to boo McCain. The talking points went out early today.
If this is the case then we have to make sure we have a strong majority in the House and Senate.
slammin' sammy @ 31:
I saw Hillary in Seattle last night. Only 1000 people were expected to show up. When we got there, there were over 5000, standing room only. It was shocking. And ELECTRIC! And there were gays, lesbians, machinists, firefighters, old folks, kids, minorites, males, females, vets, rich, poor, homeless, skateboarders, CEOs. It was an amazing cross section of America. Oh and HOPE, don't forget HOPE!
Amazonmum @ 41:
Well I should hope so. As has been pointed out to me, this is democratic primaries choosing a leader. I would sure hope people from a political party would show up to hear one of their members vying for leadership speak. LOL! It would be amazing and downright embarrassing to hold a speech and nobody from your own party supporting you.
Correct me if I am wrong but didn'y the Bugman say that Romney could have been the "spear carrier"? Fox's graphic had "spirit carrier" instead.
Why do they keep doing that?
John R. @ 29:
Glad to see not everyone buys it. The Repubs may be angry that McCain does not capture all three of the famous Repub qualities, but both Dem candidates have all of McCain's perceived weaknesses plus more, from the Repub perspective. McCain is pretty far over there on the right wing spectrum, relatively.
Chris from Canada @ 43:
The guy that does the chyron has been locked up in an electronic room for a long time and is either bored, or wants out badly. Expect to soon read "help me i'm being held against my will" streaming across your tv screen soon.
If HRC is elected president, there is no way she will serve only a single term.
She'll be re-elected.
Well I will never vote for Hillary but I am also not jumping to McCain. The Clintons will do anything for power. Her voting record does not match her words. She has voted in almost lock step with McCain on the war. Her vote on the revolutionary guard is enough for me to never vote for her. The Dems in general have not stood on principle. They could have pulled the funding for the war but they didn't. Politics and power was important to them than doing what they said was the right thing.
c. atrox @ 32:
That's not insecticide my friend, it's those last servings of jizz...... that oozed out of Satan's cock.
I still think that after 8 years of blatant criminal activity by the GOP...there's NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL McBAIN is gonna get elected. Look at the ratio of dem voters vs. repubs in the primaries thus far...almost 2 to 1...all the youngins gettin involved in the democratic process...NOT lookin good for the GOP.
Just listening to Rush read angry emails from ditto-heads begging him to get onboard with McCain.
They're calling him a drug-addled kook who needs to get over himself and help avert a socialist takeover!
I suspect he'll cave, but he's holding his ground so far.
An earlier poll shown on MSNBC showed 44%-44% Hillary McCain and a better percentage for Obama against McCain. I will try to pick up on actual numbers.
ConcernedCanuck @ 45:
Wait til they figure out how to get it to flash subliminal messages, like flashing the "r" into a "d".
Or find a way to blame the democrat (sic) run congress for the war in the first place! Doncha love being the scapegoat of a turdblossom!
I'm curious, isn't anyone bothered at all by the fact that if Sen. Clinton were to win (and let's say she won re-election), that from 1989-2016, for twenty-seven years there will have been either a Bush or a Clinton in the White House. I find that troubling as hell.
It's also on the list of why I cannot support HRC, though it ranks lower than her support for the war, her continued funding for teh war, her support of Kyl/Lieberman, her refusal to publicly condemn Bush's illegal expansion of the executive, her muted response to Bush's spying on US citizens through illegal wiretapping, and her role in a Democratic majority congress that has caved into Bush on every significant issue.
Joementum @ 50:
Maybe they'll start sending him letters suggesting he put himself out of everyones misery.
The dems are not saviors they are just the other side of the argument. Any manufactured argument needs a second side. How else would people know what stance to take.
Look at immigration. The question is actually posed, "Should we crack down on companies that hire illegal immigrants?" They are breaking the law. How is this up for debate? If I start breaking the law will there be any debate over whether or not to punish me? But, one guy takes one side, another takes the other and the companies making millions of dollars exploiting immigrant labor continue to get richer so they can fund more campains.
The 'two-party system' is a system of mind control. It gives you two options and you assume they are the only two and don't even explore the millions of others. Do you really think the most qualified person for the presidency is the last guy's son or the guy after that's wife? We have two royal families at the moment. When will Princess Chelsea take the crown? If you want the middle class out from under the control of the elite in this country you will not vote for a republican or a democrat. Haven't you learned both of those words are synonyms for rich, greedy, lying, no-good politician?????
Lollimom @ 2:
Complete crooks. No morals no matter how much they spout religion. They only care about taking over. I really believe that.
Joementum @ 50:
This is how he will be able to justify his caving. "You spoke, I listened, my people.....against my better judgement....."
Earl@34;
Depends, but I wouldn't put anything past them.... Like I said, Delay, Allan, Santorum, they're all starting to crawl out of the woodwork again, and George Senior has just been dyin since he left office to be a repub old Joe Kennedy birthin some kind of sickass Bush political dynasty.... Jeb in 12? Yea...I agree,(shudder)....that's pretty sick... and just the kind of B.S. I'd expect out of the Bush's and the RNC...JD
slammin' sammy @ 3:
I believe you. Dems get out and vote in full force.
I live in NH and would bet big money that McCain carries this state in '08. We only have 4 electoral votes but that would have been enough to keep Bush out of the WH in 2000 if the state had gone for Gore. Which states that Bush won in '04 will go for Hillary or Obama? McCain will carry the South regardless of what right wing radio screams about. The Dem nominee could win the popular vote but lose the electoral college vote.
BobD @ 57:
They call us socialisrs, I call them Nazis.
slammin' sammy @ 3:
And you know this why? What are you? Some kind of psychic? McLame is a hundred more times vulnerable than HRC ever will be. He is nothing but a flip-flopping, angry, has-been.
Kyle @ 55:
Immigration is more of a right wing concern. We, democrats are more concerned with ending the war, health care, and the economy. So no we're not the same.
slammin' sammy @ 53:
Yeah vote for McLame then dittohead. You hit the right wing talking points on queue -- try to instill doubt. Divide and conquer. That dog don't hunt anymore.
Lip lickin is a tic from drinking to much bug juice. The amazing thing is how ridiculous and puny he seems now that his wings caught fire.
jack damage @ 8:
It's going to be brutal.
Amazonmum @ 63:
There fixed it for you. Immigration might be the most disingenuous political issue of my life. Might. Declaring war on a tactic (terrorism) still beats it out though.
slammin' sammy @ 31:
Then some mistake on my part for assuming you were banging the drum for McCain. I still say using Clinton voted for the war and fund it as an argument for McCain would be weak logic. Though wouldn't be surprised if it were used to rationalize not voting for Clinton.
Since Edwards suspended his campaign I've moved my support to Obama. But even if Clinton wins I'd vote for her because we have (and I hope keep) a simple majority in both house and senate.
This ABC poll does support the view that McCain would attract more independent votes than Clinton.
(And I'd skip the Kerry analogy. It can be dismissed given he did win the popular vote while Bush was selected by the SCOTUS and distract from the point you are making.)
c. atrox @ 32:
Looking like Dale Dribble more and more every time I see him... Orange jumpsuit would look good on Delay.
Neocon @ 64:
I agree with Sammy. If you are not concerned by HRC's actions and are not willing to confront what it is about her that so many find offensive, then the dittohead is you.
As I stated before, I am one of those people who won't vote for Hillary. I won't vote for McCain either but I cannot vote for her. Her vote on the Iranian revolutionary guard is enough for me. She learned nothing from the "use of force" authorization and that was clearly demonstrated in that vote.
Kyle @ 55:
Oh come on. Just go out and vote for Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife! Hahahahaa!
Lollimom @ 19:
Agreed. The only way crazy grampa wins is if the reslugs steal the election... again.
Thing Fish @ 68:
well, actually Kerry lost the popular vote in 2004, and lost it for precisely the same reasons HRC will. My point stands. I think you mean Gore...
MargeAggedon @ 73:
Never say never, especially after hearing GDubya being called Mr. President for 8 years!!!!
ConcernedCanuck @ 72: