Damn Ohio

CD @ 1:

I forgot about the late Ann Richards.

Texans aren't afraid to have a woman running things because they've recently had one.

are you saying that those who do not back hillary are afraid to have a woman running things???

you may be right

pelosi was elected speaker, and look at the shit job she has done

back to the bedroom and the kitchen for the both of them

CD @ 1:

I forgot about the late Ann Richards.

Texans aren't afraid to have a woman running things because they've recently had one.

I'm sure that's Molly Ivins would have said too.

uncle joe mccarthy @ 4:

CD @ 1:

I forgot about the late Ann Richards.

Texans aren't afraid to have a woman running things because they've recently had one.

are you saying that those who do not back hillary are afraid to have a woman running things???

you may be right

pelosi was elected speaker, and look at the shit job she has done

back to the bedroom and the kitchen for the both of them

hillary is by no means pelosi...imho....

YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 580:

Johnny2Bad @ 553:

mudshark @ 545:

YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 536:
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she voted for NAFTA?
Really,
I didn't know she held a political office when NAFTA came up for a vote.
care to do a redux?

Ahhh, the informed electorate. Ain't it grand???

Ummmm, Mensa's....she voted to expand it to Peru...Google, Hillary + NAFTA + Peru

Uh...Obama supported it too but....Oopsss conveniently missed another impoprtant vote....Genius.

"Obama said he would vote for a Peruvian trade agreement next week, in response to a question from a man in Londonderry, NH who called NAFTA and CAFTA a disaster for American workers. He said he supported the trade agreement with Peru because it contained the labor and environmental standards sought by groups like the AFL-CIO, despite the voter’s protests to the contrary."

Google: Uninformed+You+Nice try

I can't believe I miss John Edwards. At least every other sentence wasn't about race, gender, and negativity.

CD @ 1:

I forgot about the late Ann Richards.

Texans aren't afraid to have a woman running things because they've recently had one.

Ann Richards, Molly Ivans, Bill Moyers, Dan Rather, Jim Hightower, Barbara Jordan... the list goes on.

Let me restate this:
“The Hillary “3:00 am message by Hillary to American voters …..who would better handle an emergency call to the White House at 3am”

Probably she and Bill would end up fighting over it, or he would wonder about her being all dolled up at 3:00am waiting for a phone call.

Rico said...

Compare Obamas words tonight with Clinton’s words. With Hillary it’s about her. With Barack, it’s about us. Case closed.

I completely agree.

I am just checking in. Has Gravel won a state tonight? ;-)

TheNextDylan @ 20:

I am just checking in. Has Gravel won a state tonight? ;-)

LOL!

If, dammit, if.

uncle joe mccarthy @ 5:

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

pps @ 2:

Damn Ohio

You shouldn't treat poor and struggling middle class citizens with disrespect.

fact: americans say they hate negative campaigning

fact: they consistently vote for the guy with the better negative campaign

fact: americans will vote against their own better interests if you are better at scaring the living shite out of them

hillary cant use god, guns and gays

so she uses kids, muslims and white fright

and i dont care about the delegate count, the clintonistas will use a big win in ohio to state that obama cannot win the swing states

and she will run with that all the way to pa

the convention is gonna be very interesting

Ohio delegates: Clinton 66, Obama 51. Not exactly an overwhelming victory for Republican Lite.

Alright, I don't care what anyone says, both Dems gave great speeches tonight.

And both Dems can beat McCain.

So revel in our good fortune.

Get your free Pocket BARACK-itizer here.

Don't forget, even the Republicans in TX elected a woman to the US Senate. Suppose that makes us more progressive than Connecticut, which only give the nation Leiberman and Dodd?

So, what's this I hear about Clinton officially endorsing Macain over Obama, already?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3896372.shtml

Oh, and Jericho got preempted.
Watcht he second epsiode of season two here while you wait up for the results....I say episode 2 because that one shows very well why I find this show a great antidote to "24."

Way to go Hillary, you fight this thing all the way to the convention, you deserve to be the dem's representative, your the ONLY one who can fix my problems, day one!! hahaha

let's see,where was I ?

Splendid @ 358:

Anyone who votes for McCain because Hillary wins over Obama was never a democrat, progressive or even a liberal to begin with. Get over yourself.

I will repeat my earlier diatribe, with slight edits because they are a little over the top... And yes, I am a liberal progressive, regardless of your mindless denial.

Why I will vote for McCain if Hillary is the nominee:

Hillary win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. Democrats are mad when she amps up the rhetoric on Iran, probably even starting a war there, and there probably will be no end in sight of Iraq either. She did vote for it didn't she? Republicans get to say “See I told you so” in 2012 and there is a groundswell to vote Republican, and we get a new ronald reagan type to run this country conservative until 2020.

McCain win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. More of the same. Probably war with Iran, and no end in sight of Iraq. In 2012, there is such an amazing groundswell of the call for change, that we finally re-run Obama and he wins hands down, with a majority of D and R voters, President of the USA until 2020.

Obama win: You thought the Bill Clinton years looked good?

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

Strawberrybitch @ 350:

brokenrob @ 344:

Why I will vote for McCain if Hillary is the nominee:

Hillary win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. Democrats are mad when she amps up the rhetoric on Iran, probably even starting a war there, and her husband's Skull and Bones friends wont let her get out of Iraq, even though she won't make a move to do it. Republicans get to say "See I told you so" in 2012 and there is a groundswell to vote Republican, and we get a new ronald reagan type to run this country conservative until 2020.

McCain win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. More of the same. Probably war with Iran, and no end in sight of Iraq. In 2012, there is such an amazing groundswell of the call for change, that we finally re-run Obama and he wins hands down, with a majority of D and R voters, President of the USA until 2016.

Obama win: You thought the Bill Clinton years looked good?
Bill Clinton...SKULL AND BONES!!!! LINK PLEASE!!!! That is bullshit. Those elite fucks made fun of Bill because he was a guy from the wrong side of the tracks. They called him BUBBA remember...not Biff or Chip.

How about we just settle on Ivy League? Is that good enough?

How about the same old boy club?

Northeastern White People?

More of the same?

Splendid @ 354:

xoites defends Constitution, to answer your segregationist question, I am a democrat who would only switch to independent to confuse the pollsters, and would only vote republican if there were a gun to my gay husbands head and would even then file an appeal to undo my vote due to mortal distress. The reason the Obama kool-aid drinkers think anyone who challenges their lord or calls him out must be a republican simply displays their true old school divisiveness they rejected when they supported Nader but which seems not so cool all the sudden now that Ndaer might eat into their Obama victory.

Welcome the new boss….
Same as the old boss….only helps us alleviate our white guilt
(Not sure how to fit that into a pop rhyme. Maybe Black-Eyed-Peas could help…and then donate their profits to the middle class workers in Ohio Obama couldn’t be bothered to meet with.)

Xoites, if the son of my blue collar husband won a scholarship to an Ivy League school AND a Rhodes scholarship I'd drop dead from happiness...as well as shock.

Splendid @ 358:

Anyone who votes for McCain because wins Obama over Hillary was never a democrat, progressive or even a liberal to begin with. Get over yourself.

I fixed your post for ya!

xoites defends Constitution @ 353:

Let me see:

Coniving slime slinging gold digging power grabber

Or

Addled war monger

hmmmm....

So which is supposed to be Clinton and which is supposed to be McCain? Its too hard to tell!

Splendid @ 358:

Anyone who votes for McCain because Hillary wins over Obama was never a democrat, progressive or even a liberal to begin with. Get over yourself.

McCain and Hillary have identical Middle East policies. McCain could probably pander to corporate interests as well as Hillary despite her decades of "experience." McCain owes his political career to his spouse's cash and Hillary to her spouse's experience (which for some reason she is allowed to appropriate). What's the difference?

usafail @ 349:

brokenrob @ 344:

Why I will vote for McCain if Hillary is the nominee:

Hillary win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. Democrats are mad when she amps up the rhetoric on Iran, probably even starting a war there, and her husband's Skull and Bones friends wont let her get out of Iraq, even though she won't make a move to do it. Republicans get to say "See I told you so" in 2012 and there is a groundswell to vote Republican, and we get a new ronald reagan type to run this country conservative until 2020.

McCain win: The division in this country, and in the senate/congress continues to widen, nothing is accomplished because nothing positive can pass. More partisan politics. More of the same. Probably war with Iran, and no end in sight of Iraq. In 2012, there is such an amazing groundswell of the call for change, that we finally re-run Obama and he wins hands down, with a majority of D and R voters, President of the USA until 2016.

Obama win: You thought the Bill Clinton years looked good?

Hah! This is actually the best argument I've heard for voting McCain so far.
If Hillary wins, I might actually join you sir, in voting Republican for the first time in my natural life.

Yeah, shit is topsy-turvy these days...

Are you Democrats? I don't think so.

Bless this mess. I have no doubt the planet will survive us.

Good night all.

"So you are a gay liberal racist? Or are you a woman?
Anbody who ridicules people for supporting Obama is not a progressive either."

Typical liberal Obama supporter. You're either for Obama or you're a racist. LOL Let Obama claim to be a uniter while his surrogates tell his true story of divisiveness. Wouldn’t be surprised if you were a white-guilt liberal who sees no light of day between racial mentalities.

usafail makes no sense so I assume he's drunk the Obama-aid as well.

xoites defends Constitution @ 367:

Strawberrybitch @ 362:

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

Strawberrybitch @ 350:
Splendid @ 354:
Xoites, if the son of my blue collar husband won a scholarship to an Ivy League school AND a Rhodes scholarship I'd drop dead from happiness...as well as shock.

And i would be happy for you. Winning a scholarship is a world away from the people who know they will be going by the time they are three years old.

Xoites? Remember that test a few weeks back that told you which candidate was your perfect match. Kucinich was mine. Go figure. But until our country (the squishy middle) is ready for real change, we'll have to have folks who can work the system. The whole friggin' system needs a revamp, but I guess things aren't bad enough yet (excuse me, I need another swig of Syrah) Obama is a sweetheart, he's got good intentions, but the system will eat him alive. At least Hilliary has experience with the right wing smear machine, she knows what to expect. She'll at least get the Supreme Court back on track. Shit, that's all I can hope for now. Goodnight all.

Splendid @ 374:

"So you are a gay liberal racist? Or are you a woman?
Anbody who ridicules people for supporting Obama is not a progressive either."

Typical liberal Obama supporter. You're either for Obama or you're a racist. LOL

You're either for Hillary or you're a misogynist. LOL

Let Obama claim to be a uniter while his surrogates tell his true story of divisiveness.

And HRC's supporters are all saints, who have never disparaged BHO. Plus her campaign has been squeaky clean, not a hint of Rove-ian mischief.

Wouldn’t be surprised if you were a white-guilt liberal who sees no light of day between racial mentalities.

Pretty presumptuous there, huh?

usafail makes no sense so I assume he's drunk the Obama-aid as well.

Haven't been reading my posts, huh? I'm way far left of all the candidates, but I think for practical reasons BHO would be the better candidate, I think he'd do better in a general election and improve the U.S.'s world image (Even though his foreign policy leaves much to be desired, as does HRC's).

That Kool-Aid comment is much played out, btw.

20% also voted for Hillary only because she is a woman, fyi.

DJ&Chip @ 380:

20% also voted for Hillary only because she is a woman, fyi.

Ahhh, so when he was winning did you point out the percentage of which he was winning due to him being black?

Post please.

There is a very aryan nation looking photo on WaPo right now. Illustrating Hillary's win.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR200803...

Splendid @ 377:

usafail @ 375:

Abby @ 370:

Are you Democrats? I don't think so.

I'm registered Democrat, I've always voted democrat. I like to avoid labels, however. You seem to apply them at every opportunity, so let me tell you this - No political party perfectly aligns with my views, and if you were better informed about the issues I doubt you would be so quick to parade around under the Democrat banner.

Both sides are flawed, there is too much money involved for either party to be ethically perfect, and if you're taking corporate money your decisions are influenced. Period.

Now please go read something, instead of just spouting partisan vitriol and adding absolutely nothing to the board.

usafail, I actually appreciate you pointing out your political affiliation and reminding us all how easily we tend to catagorize one another. Even though you still wouldn't qualify as a democrat, liberal or progressive by this sites definiton if you voted for McCain were he up against Hillary.

The REASON I would vote for a McCain presidency, I should clarify - is not in support of any of HIS policies. I simply believe a Hillary win would be an empty victory, nothing of substance would get done during her presidency, and by 2012 people would be clamoring for another Republican president.

I think this country needs to "hit bottom", to use Alcoholics Anonymous jargon; another 4 years of Republican raping and pillaging would really open people's eyes, and they wouldn't have Hillary to blame when the bottom drops out of the economy.

Always be skeptical, these people are your enemies. I drink no one's kool-aid.

well, since we're only 19% of the country's electorate, you can do that math to see what he might get of the national vote. there's not enough data to say he'd get 100% of that 19. perhaps you understand that.

meanwhile, among those who did not care about race or sex, they split evenly.

are you so caught up in the feeling that all black people only vote for black candidates?

that would be invalid.

Splendid @ 382:

DJ&Chip @ 380:

20% also voted for Hillary only because she is a woman, fyi.

Ahhh, so when he was winning did you point out the percentage of which he was winning due to him being black?

Post please.

Vermont towns vote to arrest Bush and Cheney
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0454699420080305

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Voters in two Vermont towns on Tuesday approved a measure that would instruct police to arrest President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for "crimes against our Constitution," local media reported.

The nonbinding, symbolic measure, passed in Brattleboro and Marlboro in a state known for taking liberal positions on national issues, instructs town police to "extradite them to other authorities that may reasonably contend to prosecute them."

usafail @ 386:

Splendid @ 377:

usafail @ 375:

Abby @ 370:

I'm registered Democrat, I've always voted democrat. I like to avoid labels, however. You seem to apply them at every opportunity, so let me tell you this - No political party perfectly aligns with my views, and if you were better informed about the issues I doubt you would be so quick to parade around under the Democrat banner.

Both sides are flawed, there is too much money involved for either party to be ethically perfect, and if you're taking corporate money your decisions are influenced. Period.

Now please go read something, instead of just spouting partisan vitriol and adding absolutely nothing to the board.

usafail, I actually appreciate you pointing out your political affiliation and reminding us all how easily we tend to catagorize one another. Even though you still wouldn't qualify as a democrat, liberal or progressive by this sites definiton if you voted for McCain were he up against Hillary.

The REASON I would vote for a McCain presidency, I should clarify - is not in support of any of HIS policies. I simply believe a Hillary win would be an empty victory, nothing of substance would get done during her presidency, and by 2012 people would be clamoring for another Republican president.

I think this country needs to "hit bottom", to use Alcoholics Anonymous jargon; another 4 years of Republican raping and pillaging would really open people's eyes, and they wouldn't have Hillary to blame when the bottom drops out of the economy.

Always be skeptical, these people are your enemies. I drink no one's kool-aid.

Ahhh, now I get it: you're a vengeful and ignorant sociopath democrat who didn't get what he feels he's entitled to so he'd rather fuck it up for everyone else than allow the country to progress.

Thank you so much for the clarification. You do drink someone's kool-aid: your own.

DJ&Chip @ 388:

well, since we're only 19% of the country's electorate, you can do that math to see what he might get of the national vote. there's not enough data to say he'd get 100% of that 19. perhaps you understand that.

meanwhile, among those who did not care about race or sex, they split evenly.

are you so caught up in the feeling that all black people only vote for black candidates?

that would be invalid.

Splendid @ 382:

DJ&Chip @ 380:

20% also voted for Hillary only because she is a woman, fyi.

Ahhh, so when he was winning did you point out the percentage of which he was winning due to him being black?

Post please.

Again, typical race-placating liberal rhetoric. Just like Obama, use the race card at will but chide your opponents for doing what you claim is the same. Under estimate when convenient, over estimate when equally convenient.

Orangutan. @ 18:

Rico said...

Compare Obamas words tonight with Clinton’s words. With Hillary it’s about her. With Barack, it’s about us. Case closed.

I completely agree.

Of course...That's his schtick. "Us". Yeah, right. Its all about "us". Well, at least he's sticking to the script.

Orangutan. @ 18:

Rico said...

Compare Obamas words tonight with Clinton’s words. With Hillary it’s about her. With Barack, it’s about us. Case closed.

I completely agree.

Exactly! Because it is about her. Her and her career.

I was a Hillary Clinton suppoter up until she showed her ass with that tirade against Obama two weeks ago. And Bill pissed me off with his "Jesse Jackson won S.C. in 87" comment when Obama won S.C.. They have showed thier ass and it ain't cute!

The Clintons will throw the Democratic party under the bus if they don't have thier way!!

Kucinich has a big lead in his race, thank goodness. http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enr/f?p=152:5:0

If anyone cares, Duncan Hunter beat Rudy in Texas, 1% to 0%. :)

Ohio Dems went for McCain?

What Ms. Clinton did on 60 Minutes when asked whether she believed Mr. Obama was a Muslim was disgraceful. Up to that point I'd have voted for her - I've been a Democrat for 32 years - but I'll never approve of that kind of cheesy, destructive, negative behavior. I've had enough of it from this Adminstration and I won't be a party to it continuing in the next. Attack his record, attack his weakness, but don't plant seeds of bigotry. Sickening.