Reuters:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain said on Friday he fears that al Qaeda or another extremist group might attempt spectacular attacks in Iraq to try to tilt the U.S. election against him.

McCain, at a town hall meeting in this Philadelphia suburb, was asked if he had concerns that anti-American militants in Iraq might ratchet up their activities in Iraq to try to increase casualties in September or October and tip the November election against him.

"Yes, I worry about it," McCain said. "And I know they pay attention because of the intercepts we have of their communications ... The hardest thing in warfare is to counter someone or a group of individuals who are willing to take their own lives in order to take others." Read on...

The GOP will use Iraq as propaganda regardless of the situation on the ground. If things are going well, they will tout a victory. If the tenuous lull in overall violence suddenly surges, McCain will tell us that we can't pull out now because it's just too dangerous, or as in this instance, accuse AQ of plotting to sway the election -- that's if the media bothers to cover Iraq at all.

We should be seeing a tape from bin Laden or his #2 by September or October, and McCain and the Republicans will use it in tee vee commercials and campaign speeches accusing the Democrats of loving the terrorists. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for Osama, right?

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McCain: al Qaeda Planning Spectacular Attacks In Iraq To Sway U.S. Election

Could also be translated...

McCain: Hoping for Spectacular Attacks in Iraq to Sway U.S. Election.

Who needs al Qaeda's help? Martial Law would accomplish the same thing...

Right then the next stage is the Obama/Wright commercials suggesting Obama and his Pastor and Church is somehow tied to Al-Qaeda muslim radicals.

I think "planning" an Al Caca attack is done somewhere else. Don't worry johnny, they will help you in the white house because you have promised to fellate them for any help they can throw your way.
The only people with ties to Al Qaeda are the GOP. How else do you pull off a fascist coup making people afraid of people in Iraq? The only way they can come here is for someone to bring them here. Just like last time, We flew them in and flew them out.

bets?

I hate this kind of negative, partisan fear-mongering.
I am a little surprised McCain has gone this far into the gutter this soon.
This is the worst kind of BS tactics. Jinning up fear, promoting war all to get votes.
Despicable.

Fuck you, John McCain. I vote from conscience, not fear.

McLobbyists is telling you that the surge did not work and there will be a surge in violence.

They tried to bribe the Iraqis but the hatred there is too intense.

"Republicans are planning attack like 9/11 to prevent General Election" would be closer to the truth.

getalife @ 7:

McLobbyists is telling you that the surge did not work and there will be a surge in violence.

They tried to bribe the Iraqis but the hatred there is too intense.

So, if the surge didn't work, our soldiers can come home.

If it worked, they can come home.

Either way, they can COME HOME.

Any group in Iraq which wants the US out just needs to make a few spectacular attacks on American forces right near the elections. Al Qaeda is probably happy to have the US pinned down in Iraq&mdash:after all Bin Laden all but endorsed the Shrub for reelection in 2004—but there are a enough factions in Iraq that want to have an unfettered hand in Iraq to ensure that one or more of them will seize this opportunity. Another train hurtling down the track towards a wreck and nothing will be done to avert it.

More attacks?

Why does God hate America?

"W" will do anything and everything to put a non-investigating lapdog in the WH. Anything.

The question is: What, if anything, can we do about it? My vote is impeach the bastards before November just to prevent the election tampering/rigging/swaying/warring to come. And because it's the right thing to do.

Hahaha!!!!

Totally off-topic but this is a laugh! According to the New Yok Times:
John Gibson fired by Fox!

First sesible thing the did since the damn of time!

what i dont understand is how Al-Qaeda believes that a sudden surge of attacks will sway votes towards the DEMOCRATS....

that being said, doesnt AQ really want the REPUBLICANS to win?

Whitehouse @ 13:

Hahaha!!!!

Totally off-topic but this is a laugh! According to the New Yok Times:
John Gibson fired by Fox!

First sesible thing the did since the damn of time!

Here's more to that.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/656479/good_riddance_the_big_st...

This lugubrious old fool will say anything to try to win support. That fear card is so worn by now you can see through it. McSame can't make it on anything but the Iraqi mess-up, he can't address the real issues because his party can't stand the idea of any kind of help for the American people without calling it Socialism.
Vote Dem for President AND for Both Houses of Congress.
Get rid of the old (literal here) gaurd.

Attack or not they'll spin it their way.

See...we kept you safe.

You don't want to change horse mid-stream.

It's like arguing against faith. You can't win.

Whitehouse @ 15:

Whitehouse @ 13:

Hahaha!!!!

Totally off-topic but this is a laugh! According to the New Yok Times:
John Gibson fired by Fox!

First sesible thing the did since the damn of time!

Here's more to that.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/656479/good_riddance_the_big_story_is_john.html

No way you thought they were firing him because of his simplistic, fallacy-filled, neo-conservative sycophancy toward all things Bush and right-wing. No way...

Of course, if they fired people for that at Fox News, they'd have to replace nearly everyone there. I think Mort Kondracke and Alan Colmes might still have jobs if that were to happen, but that would be about it.

Now that is humour! (or humor if your American)

If they are, and how is it John knows, then it will be for fear so the electorate in this country will run in fear into the GOPs waiting arms.

seevee @ 17:

Attack or not they'll spin it their way.

See...we kept you safe.

You don't want to change horse mid-stream.

It's like arguing against faith. You can't win.

Speaking of that, last time I was in the US someone knocked on my door at 8:45 in the morning. My wife and i were lying abed reading and having coffee. I got up, took off my underwear and started for the door and my wife said "what the hell are you doing" I told her I was "teaching" and I went and flung the door open to a young couple standing there with a bible in their hands. I'm telling you, some things are just too much fun NOT to do.

Does McSenile have a "gut" feeling like Jurkoff?

CheneyIsADick @ 8:

"Republicans are planning attack like 9/11 to prevent General Election" would be closer to the truth.

CheneyIsADick @ 8:

"Republicans are planning attack like 9/11 to prevent General Election" would be closer to the truth.

WHAT? ANOTHER ONE?

seevee @ 21:

Does McSenile have a "gut" feeling like Jurkoff?

LOL, now THAT would be a ticket, McSenile/Jurkoff ... Thanks for the laugh.

al Qaeda is overjoyed with the Bush administration. Dumya has been their best recruiter. They'll want the good times to continue with the election of McBush.

I mentioned this elsewhere.

This question sounds like a plant to me.

It's too full of potential talking points for the GOP to use closer to the election.
Where's jeff gannon these days?

What an ass, putting this fake boogey man bullshit on the American public yet once again for old time sakes. McCrazy will lose with this BS, America isn't buying the fear card anymore you old fool.

"And I know they pay attention because of the intercepts we have of their communications"

This sounds suspicious to me. McCain knows about wiretaps and he keeps very up-to-date on intercepted communications from AQ? I would think this phrase would be turned upside down on democrats, accusing them of knowing inside info when they have denied having total access.

I could be wrong. Watch out for monkeys flying out.

MacBush why would any group of infidels do anything at all, when Big-Bush has done his best infidel work with budget and anything fiscal. All the non-native infidels have to do is just savor over our place in the world's economy sinking lower each day. Oh and I figure it's fun for those guys to see our Constituional right go down de tubes.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 20:

seevee @ 17:

Attack or not they'll spin it their way.

See...we kept you safe.

You don't want to change horse mid-stream.

It's like arguing against faith. You can't win.

Speaking of that, last time I was in the US someone knocked on my door at 8:45 in the morning. My wife and i were lying abed reading and having coffee. I got up, took off my underwear and started for the door and my wife said "what the hell are you doing" I told her I was "teaching" and I went and flung the door open to a young couple standing there with a bible in their hands. I'm telling you, some things are just too much fun NOT to do.

I'm sure they saw you as a member.

Job description for POTUS:

1. Must be able to screw the American People and tell them it's for the good of the country.

2. Must be able and willing to keep the CEOs of the S&P 500 happy.

3. Must be able to turn a blind eye toward human suffering.

I'd say McCain measures up.

fastfeat @ 2:

Who needs al Qaeda's help? Martial Law would accomplish the same thing...

Al -Qaeda need to atack in order to justify enacting Martial Law.... I think this administration is impatiently waiting for the next BIG one, if they don't try starting one themselves fist.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 26:

yellow dog @ 16:

Maybe Petraeus' epiphany will earn him a seat at Shinseki and Fallon's table. It's getting awfully crowded though.

not likely.

boosh's the pet general only speaks when they loosen his choke-collar leash. this was a McCenturyOfWar political endorsement disguised as a 'state of iraq' report. he has said nothing different than nine months ago, when they termed the surge a partial success.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 24:

This is, once again, blaming the Iraqis for not being properly conquered.

This is a Panama Canal-type gift (This time the commodity is oil, not trade routes) to oil corporations made to keep the US feeling like conquering crusaders and to keep oilCo coffers overflowing. and it has the added benefit of driving up oil prices, thus bringing historically high profits to an already obscenely profitable group of corporations, which are also getting billions in direct aid from our treasury as well.

and yesterday, boosh said 'things are a little tough for some of us'.

he was NOT talking about his base: the haves and the have mores.

The one-two punch of Betrayus and McWarVictim. you can't get better timing!

Hey, lay off of McCain!

He is actually complimenting us. If you forget for a moment that he is saying that al Qaeda is rooting for the Dems, he is also saying that, in the event of escalating violence, the American people will vote against the Republican. That's very nice of him to admit that. It's also true, as polls show the country favors Dems over Repubs for handling national security and the war in Iraq (and almost everything else).

Get your free Pocket BARACK-itizer here.

OMG!! That means the Surge is not WORKING!!!!

There is a reportedly massive explosion at a military base in Albania with an undetermined number of US casualties.

One would think the terra, terra, terra cheerleaders would be all over this.......But strangely enough it is not being trumped up by the Bush media?

-GSD

As much as the Republicans don't want to talk about the economy or paint it as Rosy and as optimistic as possible I don't want to talk about the possibility of false flag operation orchestrated  by the Fascists Republicans. I don't want to even contemplate the possibility because I believe they would at the drop of a hat kill thousands of Americans to keep power. That is a terrible thing to consider but I haven't seen any evidence that these crooks have any real human conscience. The most terrible thing is I think it would work. The American voters would buy it lock stock and barrel.

tyree @ 22:

CheneyIsADick @ 8:

"Republicans are planning attack like 9/11 to prevent General Election" would be closer to the truth.

CheneyIsADick @ 8:

"Republicans are planning attack like 9/11 to prevent General Election" would be closer to the truth.

WHAT? ANOTHER ONE?

Well, the polls show a tremendous gap between DP & GOP. Too big for Diebold to close and reverse. They'll have to do something drastic so they can hang on to the power they grabbed in 2000. That's how they'll use all the executive orders that have been on the books since the early seventies.

His brand name is McCrazy.

Maybe even McBatShitCrazy.
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we must shut the fuck up and listen to our leaders !!!! they havent steered us wrong yet! have they?

tyree @ 39:

we must shut the fuck up and listen to our leaders !!!! they havent steered us wrong yet! have they?

Well, not if you want to pull a Thelma and Louise type stunt.

weldon @ 40

Stop screaming, please.

CheneyIsADick @ 41:

tyree @ 39:

we must shut the fuck up and listen to our leaders !!!! they havent steered us wrong yet! have they?

Well, not if you want to pull a Thelma and Louise type stunt.

sorry i must have had a stroke !or thought i was brittny speers

I believe another attack against Americans on American soil would have the opposite effect from what they would hope.

They've f**ked this country up so bad now that if there were another attack, there's no way re-PIG-licans wouldn't be seen as being responsible for letting it happen through their ineptitude and obstructionism regarding real and effective methods of protecting Americans from terrorism.

They've only promoted the possibilities through their egregious foreign policy.
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ep3 @ 27:

"And I know they pay attention because of the intercepts we have of their communications"

This sounds suspicious to me.

No kidding. Does anyone with even two brain cells to rub together think that any terrorists would, after how well and widely publicized our snooping has been, use any means of communication we could actually intercept to discuss their next attack?

Doh!!

tyree @ 43:

CheneyIsADick @ 41:

tyree @ 39:

we must shut the fuck up and listen to our leaders !!!! they havent steered us wrong yet! have they?

Well, not if you want to pull a Thelma and Louise type stunt.

sorry i must have had a stroke !or thought i was brittny speers

LOL

Senator McCain knows all about this because....
1. he is a member of a terrorist organization and they gave him a "heads-up"
2. he receives regular emails from al Qaeda members
3. he is a fearmongering Republican
4. he wants us to continue with war because he is a war profiteer
5. he is afraid that Barack Obama will talk about how the invasion of Iraq was a mistake and showed poor judgement by those who supported Public Law 107-243, October 16,2002 - "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002" and that poor judgement is not something that voters want in a presidential (we have 7 years of a president that uses poor judgement, now).

My money is on number 3 and 5 and possibly number 4. Hillary will be nervous about reason 5, too.

No U.S. mainstream media at Winter Soldier. I have been listening live on radio since yesterday ( www.kpfa.org ). U.S. media gives us this latest crap from McCain, the latest smears. I believe that McCain, Petraeus, all Republicans, all Democrats in Congress KNOW that we have not just destroyed Iraq, we have destoyed ourselves. Dennis Kucinich showed up at Winter Soldier yesterday. No one else from U.S. congress. No one from the out of Iraq caucus.

Yes, there's only been 1000s of spectacular attacks in Iraq so far, all to sway the election, of course.

Please, please, please somebody attack us so we can blame Iran and start a new war. That would be much easier than having to make shit up all the time.

It sounds to me like McCain is praying (if he knows how) for an attack so he can say "see I told you so! Now you know why you should vote for me because I am so perceptive!" And there are enough koolaid drunks out there who will buy this bullshit again as they bought it from the Bush Crime Family. It is fearmongering at its worst and the main stream media laps it up. McCain belongs on the garbage heap of history with the Bushies and all their kin.

Verdillac @ 31:

fastfeat @ 2:

Who needs al Qaeda's help? Martial Law would accomplish the same thing...

Al -Qaeda need to atack in order to justify enacting Martial Law.... I think this administration is impatiently waiting for the next BIG one, if they don't try starting one themselves fist.

You said it, not me. Didn't want to start off the thread getting my post deleted, with all respect due the sitemonitor.

Sandra @ 48:

No U.S. mainstream media at Winter Soldier. I have been listening live on radio since yesterday ( www.kpfa.org ). U.S. media gives us this latest crap from McCain, the latest smears. I believe that McCain, Petraeus, all Republicans, all Democrats in Congress KNOW that we have not just destroyed Iraq, we have destoyed ourselves. Dennis Kucinich showed up at Winter Soldier yesterday. No one else from U.S. congress. No one from the out of Iraq caucus.

yes kucinich was the only one worth voteing for!!!!!!!!all the rest are losers!

There are at least two major flaws with McInsane’s statement. 1) An attack by Al Qaeda or another extremist group in Iraq is impossible because the surge worked. He has been stating that the surge has worked for months. 2) They can’t possibly have any intercepts of extremist communications because the Protect America Act expired and now we can no longer listen in. The other McInsane said that. You can’t have it both ways, my friend.

Trittydi @ 44:

I believe another attack against Americans on American soil would have the opposite effect from what they would hope.

They've f**ked this country up so bad now that if there were another attack, there's no way re-PIG-licans wouldn't be seen as being responsible for letting it happen through their ineptitude and obstructionism regarding real and effective methods of protecting Americans from terrorism.

They've only promoted the possibilities through their egregious foreign policy.
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There are enough executive orders ready, right this minute, to cancel the election and implement martial law at the stroke of Chimpy's or Cheney's pen. All they need is another 9/11 or Katrina. A perceived threat is enough.

tyree @ 53:

Sandra @ 48:

No U.S. mainstream media at Winter Soldier. I have been listening live on radio since yesterday ( www.kpfa.org ). U.S. media gives us this latest crap from McCain, the latest smears. I believe that McCain, Petraeus, all Republicans, all Democrats in Congress KNOW that we have not just destroyed Iraq, we have destoyed ourselves. Dennis Kucinich showed up at Winter Soldier yesterday. No one else from U.S. congress. No one from the out of Iraq caucus.

yes kucinich was the only one worth voteing for!!!!!!!!all the rest are losers!

Kucinich is not connected to the Council of Foreign Relations. That is why he's been bared from participating in the debates, and gets absolutely no media coverage.

Here I am reading the “Audacity of Hope” written by Barack Hussein Obama, inspired by his mentor the Reverend Wright, who now is wrong. Sheesh.

Now after viewing short and incomplete video clips of Reverend Wright in rants, just about anti-everything, white people stand for, is explicitly described but America needs to catch up on twenty years of friendship Barack Hussein Obama has with the Reverend Wright. My goodness America needs to understand more about Mr. Reverend Wright to be sure America is not wronged ? Gag.

Hell, I don’t recall any of this stuff we needed to do with Bush and Company. All we know Bush is an Evangelist so we don’t have to worry about Bush or any inherent Islamic connection. Though there has always been long time friendship with the Bin Laden Arab ruling family but of course those hundreds of million and billion dollar partnerships certainly have nothing to do with the state of America’s economy. Or, oh yes it does, and more than we all think.

Even Obama points out in his book Audacity of Hope, which as long as thirty years ago, Congress and persons connected to the Treasure made laws that would keep secret those money investments made in America by the Arab ruling Kingdom. Here putting those American Petro-dollars back into Americas economy suggests a brilliant move. Grandpa Prescott Bush would be proud of George Jr. for his modern banking skills, and keeping those highly sensitive and secret profiteering maneuvers out of the publics view, is genius . Listening to President Bush every time talk to America and lets everyone know it hard work to do, and there is more work to do. Making secret baby trust funds through profiteering for millions of Americas who are his stead fast supporters is not easy to do.

I believe it was the worst president in the entire history of
the United States of America that was the one who said:

"bring it on"

it was, wasn't it? of course he's not too concerned about much
as he's got some property in Peru where they don't have pesky
extradition laws to get in the way.

So the GOPers run as the party who is tough on terrorism, and when a terrorist attack happens is further proof that they are being tough on terrorism and should be re-elected?

The logical dissonance is astounding, and the sad part is that half of this country would consider such failure as a incentive to re-elect this morons.

Is like a pilot claiming that if he crashes is clear proof that he should be allowed to get a raise.

Amazing....

If the situation is so out of control that "al qaeda" can plan and carry out spectacular attacks, that's going to be a problem for the repukes regardless of how they spin it.

So, yeah, McSurgeToNowhere, you should be worried.

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

Right then the next stage is the Obama/Wright commercials suggesting Obama and his Pastor and Church is somehow tied to Al-Qaeda muslim radicals.

And you KNOW that's right around the corner.

pablo @ 34:

OMG!! That means the Surge is not WORKING!!!!

Excellent point.

al qaeda is full aware from past events that attacks, bin laden tapes, etc leads to REPUBLICANS winning the elections! with that in mind, mccain's predictions are flawed on their face . . . . for him to suggest that al qaeda would commit attacks to sway the elections toward democrats defies logic.

cheney and the neo-cons, however, are fully capable of engineering "false-flag" attacks abroad or here in the US to sway the election towards mccain - DON'T FALL FOR THIS AGAIN PEOPLE!

and how the hell does he know this is going to take place?

very suspect.

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 20:

seevee @ 17:

Attack or not they'll spin it their way.

See...we kept you safe.

You don't want to change horse mid-stream.

It's like arguing against faith. You can't win.

Speaking of that, last time I was in the US someone knocked on my door at 8:45 in the morning. My wife and i were lying abed reading and having coffee. I got up, took off my underwear and started for the door and my wife said "what the hell are you doing" I told her I was "teaching" and I went and flung the door open to a young couple standing there with a bible in their hands. I'm telling you, some things are just too much fun NOT to do.

TOO FUNNY BOB
I did almost the same thing.....they came to my door and woke me up after working the night shift. Needless to say I wasn't happy. I answered the door wearing a pair of boxers and kept scratching myself. They asked if I had to do that, I said yup. They left

I'm going to start calling him False Flag Johnny Or Inside Job McCain If he wanted to truly wanted to stop the "evil terrorists"... He should arrest everyone inside the CIA building... and some of FBI headquarters....for starters.

McCain has it totally backwards. If anything, Al Qaeda is likely to tilt the election in his favor, because after all, Bush and all his Republican enablers have been a God send for Al Qaeda. That's why OBL did that video before the last election. He knew fear would drive more people to vote for Bush, which would of course inflame the Middle East and help recruit more terrorists, while at the same time deplete our military. Why are people so ignorant they can't see that. Seems pretty obvious to me. Yes indeed, George Bush's war on terror has been a real wet dream for OBL, and McCain will be more of the same. So while the moderate Muslims in the Middle East will likely be rooting for Democrats, I have no doubt that Al Qaeda and all the other extremist elements are hoping for another Republican victory.

Mac - shut the f*ck up please. Enough of your games. Staight talking express. Puh-lease. For him and HillBillary it is just a game. The Mac and HillBillary show. http://angryafrican.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/dont-look-back-in-anger-a-c...

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Mike the Canuck @ 64:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 20:

seevee @ 17:

Attack or not they'll spin it their way.

See...we kept you safe.

You don't want to change horse mid-stream.

It's like arguing against faith. You can't win.

Speaking of that, last time I was in the US someone knocked on my door at 8:45 in the morning. My wife and i were lying abed reading and having coffee. I got up, took off my underwear and started for the door and my wife said "what the hell are you doing" I told her I was "teaching" and I went and flung the door open to a young couple standing there with a bible in their hands. I'm telling you, some things are just too much fun NOT to do.

TOO FUNNY BOB
I did almost the same thing.....they came to my door and woke me up after working the night shift. Needless to say I wasn't happy. I answered the door wearing a pair of boxers and kept scratching myself. They asked if I had to do that, I said yup. They left

Had a similar experience in Long Beach, CA about 10 years ago. After staying up all night partying with my ex, an early morning knock at the door caused my girl to toss on my button-down shirt, mostly unbuttoned, and nothing else. She answered the door, beer and cigarette in hand, only to have two guys plus one's son, aged about 10, there with Bibles in tow. She kept them there entertained for about 10 minutes, wanting to "learn about Jesus". Watching them trying to catch peeks at tits and trim was priceless!

The killing in Iraq is running full steam ahead, they're not holding back waiting...

David Hill @ 14:

what i dont understand is how Al-Qaeda believes that a sudden surge of attacks will sway votes towards the DEMOCRATS....

that being said, doesnt AQ really want the REPUBLICANS to win?

The only thing McCain is missing is a brain. Historically, every time there is a bang in Iraq or a mention of terrorism anywhere Republican numbers go up. Me thinks al Qaeda is aware of this. So assuming they are aware of this then his argument means that the terrorists prefer a Republican President. Wow, why would McCain admit this. It's easy to understand why terrorist would prefer more Republican control. Goodness from Reagan and Bush 1 to today's Bush 2, who else aside from Saudi royalty would train them, fund them, sell them weapons, even chemical WMD, and who else would leave OBL alone, as well as fly all of his friends and family out of the country following an attack on the US by 16 Saudis in a group of 19 terrorist? Nope, no one else would. McCain's right, terrorist really prefer the GOP. You could say they probably owe them.

So, when are the righties gonna attack America again like they did in New York??????? Something should happen before the Next election so Bush can claim martial law before the elections. Do not trust these people.

If they do attack, it is because they don't like how the elections are going. If they attack, it is because they understand American's fears, and they want McCain to win. Unfortunately, the Americans might just play into their hands -- Obama would unite the world against Al Quaeda, McCain, the continuation of Bush, would weaken the world and destabilize it with more senseless attacks on places that would squander American money, military personnel, prestige and leadership.

If they do attack, it is because they don't like how the elections are going. If they attack, it is because they understand American's fears, and they want McCain to win. Unfortunately, the Americans might just play into their hands -- Obama would unite the world against Al Quaeda, McCain, the continuation of Bush, would weaken the world and destabilize it with more senseless attacks on places that would squander American money, military personnel, prestige and leadership.

My guess is that a part of him is actually worried more that AQ will NOT attack, but of course could not admit that, not even to himself. This explains the irrational assertion that he thinks that such an attack would be made to assure he does not win -- all the experts say that if AQ attacks, it will help McCain, who is seen as the tough daddy figure. Problem is, AQ knows this, and if they DO attack before the election, it is because they do not want Obama to win. AQ will be like Brer Rabbit saying, "O please, please, do NOT throw me in the Briar patch. Obama would unite the world against AQ, unlike McCain, who would fall in line with his Republican "base" (i.e., the "base" Republicans) and authorize unilateral demonstrations of military might (attacks on countries, somewhere) to isolate the US more and destabilize the world, unwittingly playing into AQ's hands. Unfortunatley Bin Laden is cagier than your average neocon, or your average Palin voter.

Ha, they'll say anything.
Please , please drop the "maverick", that was horse shit . McBush is just an old pander bear.

fastfeat @ 68:

Mike the Canuck @ 64:

♣Bangkok Bob♣ @ 20:

seevee @ 17:
Speaking of that, last time I was in the US someone knocked on my door at 8:45 in the morning. My wife and i were lying abed reading and having coffee. I got up, took off my underwear and started for the door and my wife said "what the hell are you doing" I told her I was "teaching" and I went and flung the door open to a young couple standing there with a bible in their hands. I'm telling you, some things are just too much fun NOT to do.

TOO FUNNY BOB
I did almost the same thing.....they came to my door and woke me up after working the night shift. Needless to say I wasn't happy. I answered the door wearing a pair of boxers and kept scratching myself. They asked if I had to do that, I said yup. They left

Had a similar experience in Long Beach, CA about 10 years ago. After staying up all night partying with my ex, an early morning knock at the door caused my girl to toss on my button-down shirt, mostly unbuttoned, and nothing else. She answered the door, beer and cigarette in hand, only to have two guys plus one's son, aged about 10, there with Bibles in tow. She kept them there entertained for about 10 minutes, wanting to "learn about Jesus". Watching them trying to catch peeks at tits and trim was priceless!

I had a similar encounter with Jehovah Witnesses, on a sunday at 8 fucking in the AM. Except I was still in college, and we had a toga party the night before at our place. I answered the door, half naked (although masculine nakedness after heavy partying must be far less aesthetically pleasing I am willing to wager), and in the background must have been like 10 people still crashing on our living room wearing togas. So I must have looked like some sort of drunken Bacchus to a background of the remains of what must have been a Roman orgy. The look on the faces of the kids with their impeccable white shirts and ties and bibles in hand was priceless.

I offered the poor kids a beer, and was sitting there amused by their heroic attempt to convert me given the circumstances. Until someone got annoyed by the chatting and the light creeping from the door and a yell of "what the fuck is going on?" came from the depths of the living room. The last thing these poor kids was me burping as an open can of beer was slug from the same depth in the room as the previous profanity. I dunno if dry cleaners can take beer stains off, but I am sure my acquittance managed to ruin their morning. They surely did not give a fuck about ruining people's sleep early in the AM on a fucking sunday on the vicinity of a college campus.

I saw once an Australian comedian, in his show... he flew to Utah, and with his sidekick dressed in impeccable tie and slacks, went biking around a moron neighborhood, knocking on people's doors and asking them if they were interested in hearing about his atheist manifesto. Let's just say that he got a fairly belligerent treatment, with people coming in instances baseball bate in hand to kick their arses. In juxtaposition, they followed a mormon crew doing the same to pious Australians homes. And although people were annoyed about the intromission, they never had to face physical harm.

I always get a kick about all these self righteous religious people. Talk the talk, but when they have to walk the walk... they sure do forget all their pious talk.

Two points:

One, if the surge is working so well, why should we worry about any Al-Qaeda surge?

And two, for a party that is so "strong," they sure are afraid a good deal of the time, don't you think?

I think the best defense is offense. Why let the Republicans frame the debate? In 2004, the Republicans managed to frame the debate on Kerry and Vietnam, instead of current issues.

We need to start tying Iraq to the economy. The unrelenting cash drain doesn't sit will with voters and John McCain doesn't seem to have a problem letting it continue for the next 100 years.

We also need to frame the debate over the "surge". It was not the surge that drove out Al Qaeda in Anbar, it was the arming of the Sunnis, who was keeping Al Qaeda out before we invaded. Violence is down in Bagdad, and some of that is attributable to the surge, but some is attributable to the fact that Sunnis have fled Shiite neighborhoods, and Shiites have fled Sunni neighborhoods, as the ethnic cleansing proceeds. Many are now refugees.

And, if Obama is the candidate, we need to focus on judgment in the enemy recognition area. By engaging in the Iraq war, we dropped the focus on Afghanistan, and strengthened Iranian influence in the Middle East. The war has helped Iran greatly by converting Iraq, formerly a Sunni controlled foe, into a Shiite controlled ally. Therefore, an inability to recognize that starting the Iraq war was a bad idea reflects unfavorably on the candidate's ability to lead national defense.

And, to put the Fox type framing on it, "Why do Republicans like Iran more than they like the United States of America?".

To be truthful, I haven't taken bombing Iran off the table quite yet. I think that Bush was and still is contemplating that action, and that the Pakistan situation made it inadvisable. But, if Pakistan settles down in the next month or so, well, we'll see what Bush does. He could squeeze in a nice bombing which would be forgotten by the fall. However, there would be a period of $200/barrel oil. I think the concept of the lunatics running the asylum is not necessarily a cliché here.

I believe that McCain's remarks indicate that he understands the obvious: we do not have the resources to maintain the illusory gains of the "surge" through November. It is almost inevitable that there are going to be some really ugly things happening in Iraq between now and then. McCain is preparing the ground for Republicans to disavow responsibility when things fall apart.

I'd say it's much more likely that the Bush administration will stage a spectacular attack on Iran in order to influence the election... or that some "false flag" incident will happen, or both.

more karl rovian fear-mongering neocon doublespeak....

is bush planning on declaring marshall law and cancelling the elections altogether?

Does anyone remember the incident when Iraqi Police caught British covert ops in a car full of explosives and tried to arrest them?

We where wondering why in the heck do the British send out covert ops teams with explosives?

What in the world might they want to do with those explosives?

Maybe, without us figuring it out, Al Queda is not the only ones spreading terror.

A bombing by 'Al Queda' (who's members no one seems to know, or their location or anything) at the right time just might help in certain situations.

Or maybe I am just doubting those in charge that have proven time and again just how honest and trustworthy they are.

I thought the surge was supposed to make sure they don't follow us home,

But they did anyway?