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Face The Nation: Lindsey Graham Insists “The Surge Has Worked On All Fronts

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Sen. Lindsey Graham, newly back from his Iraq trip with BFF John McCain, appeared on Face The Nation to reiterate that really, the surge is working.  No, I’m serious.  It really has.

But the big picture for me is I’m incredibly pleased with the performance of our troops and Gen. Petraeus. On the political front, we’ve had the de-Ba’athification law passed. What does that mean?  That means members of the Ba’ath party, who ruled the country under Saddam Hussein are now allowed to get some of their jobs back.  That means the Shi’a and Kurds are saying to the Sunnis, ‘come back in and help us run the country.’ They passed a $48 billion budget, where every group in Iraq gets to share the oil resources.  There was an amnesty law telling the prisoners in Iraq that we’re going to let some of you go…go back home, stop fighting, help build the new Iraq and most important of all we’re going to have provincial elections in October.  The Sunnis boycotted the election in 2005, and everywhere I went in Anbar Province the Sunnis are ready to vote and be part of democracy. 

Yup, that looks really rosy, doesn’t it?  As long as you don’t follow the links. 




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Archae Says:

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Lindsey…

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Don Davis Says:

At least al-Maliki has cracked down on Trans Fats.

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ferrofluid Says:

where every group in Iraq gets to share the oil resources.

I seem to remember that some share more than others, wasnt it 20% to the international oil companies

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Otay Says:

Another pasty-faced limp-wristed Repug dweeb cheering on from his arm-chair.

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StevePam Says:

In fairness to Grahm don’t jump thr gun and assume anythig here….maybe he was talking about a different surge that the rest of us don’t know about

’cause I don’t think he means THIS surge does he??

http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....-collapse/

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ferrofluid Says:

Don Davis @ 2:

At least al-Maliki has cracked down on Trans Fats.

hopefully insulated shower mats and proper ground bonding will be in the next white paper.

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ferrofluid Says:

StevePam @ 5:

In fairness to Grahm don’t jump thr gun and assume anythig here….maybe he was talking about a different surge that the rest of us don’t know about

’cause I don’t think he means THIS surge does he??

http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....-collapse/

maybe the Craig Foley surge, seems popular in DC with Republicans.

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NoBuddy Says:

I saw an interview with Michael Ware from CNN International on Real Time which is the best status report on Iraq I’ve seen in quite some time.

YouTube has the clip here.

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ConcernedCanuck Says:

Who voted this moron a senator?

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BillD Says:

I want to pee on Lindsey’s leg and tell him it’s raining.

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Hannah Hussein Says:
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seth Says:

Assuming it has worked on all fronts, how large has the improvement been? I don’t think it has made things better but even if it has a small amount, is that something to brag about?

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Leslie Says:

That means the Shi’a and Kurds are saying to the Sunnis, ‘come back in and help us run the country.’

Come back in?! Baghdad used to be a mix of Sunni and Shi’a. Now the population is almost all Shi’a. I believe the only reason the violence has gone down enough to say the “surge is working” is because al-Sadr’s Shi’a militia has been holding their fire and there are fewer Iraqis left to kill. So many have already been killed or forced to flee. Odd that Graham and the media wouldn’t mention this?

Also, we’ve been buying off Sunni factions. Well, we’ve been telling them we’d buy them off…except, we forgot to pay them.

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♣Bangkok Bob♠ Says:

Otay @ 4:

Another pasty-faced limp-wristed Repug dweeb cheering on from his arm-chair.

Graham, is still closeted. He is never seen out with women.
I have absolutely no problem with his gayness, just that he remains in the closet and votes against Gay-Rights and all the rest of the party hate slogans.
Hypocrisy while your serving is the biggest problem we have.

Funny, but General Petraeus said the Iraqis weren’t making sufficient progress. Guess Lindsey/Woolsey knows something he doesn’t.

Well, sure, if by “all” he means three of eighteen…

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♣Bangkok Bob♠ Says:

Today in Iraq::

Dozens die in attacks across Iraq
Iraqis mourn lost relatives after a stray rocket struck a residential building in Kamaliya, east Baghdad, on Sunday
Some relatives were mourning those struck by a stray rocket
A string of suicide attacks, shootings and rocket strikes have claimed dozens of lives on a day of violence in Iraq.

In the bloodiest single incident, 13 Iraqi soldiers died when a suicide attacker drove a fuel tanker into an army base in Mosul in northern Iraq.

Meanwhile, the US military said it killed 12 militants in a house east of Baquba, in Diyala province. It said they were preparing suicide attacks.

The bloodshed comes despite an overall reduction in violence since last June.

That was when the US deployed an extra 30,000 troops in violence-hit areas - the so-called “troop surge”.

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ferrofluid Says:

Robert Lockwood Mills @ 15:

Funny, but General Petraeus said the Iraqis weren’t making sufficient progress. Guess Lindsey/Woolsey knows something he doesn’t.

dontcha know, politics transcends military.

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ferrofluid Says:

♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 14:

Otay @ 4:

Another pasty-faced limp-wristed Repug dweeb cheering on from his arm-chair.

Graham, is still closeted. He is never seen out with women.
I have absolutely no problem with his gayness, just that he remains in the closet and votes against Gay-Rights and all the rest of the party hate slogans.
Hypocrisy while your serving is the biggest problem we have.

very true

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dill1 Says:

ConcernedCanuck @ 9:

Who voted this moron a senator?

Some members of the SC Republican Party think he isn’t conservative enough and are trying to get someone more to their liking to run against him, mainly because of his stand for “amnesty” for immigrants. Amazingly enough they sent emails to Obama supporters in Charleston asking us to support him.

If you think Graham is bad, DeMint, our other senator is comparable in intelligence to Bush.

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Leslie Says:

Robert Lockwood Mills @ 15:

Funny, but General Petraeus said the Iraqis weren’t making sufficient progress. Guess Lindsey/Woolsey knows something he doesn’t.

Petraeus didn’t get the memo. There’s a time lag in Iraq.

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chicano2nd Says:

Lindsey Graham stood by and mouthed silently the lies McCain tried to slip by the press corp on his recent political ploy, I mean foreign affairs trip. Just watch him on the videos of the trip if you don’t belieive it.

They all got caught, and Old Joe’s immediate correction, was nothing more than a reaction to the puzzled look on the faces of the international representatives of the press corps present for his “releases.” The main streamers with him were probably bobble-heading every comment oblivious to their European peers disbelief that the entourage before them could be the next American Administration!

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RayC Hussein Says:

I keep thinking that at some point people like Lindsey Graham and the rest of the cons will lose all creditability and be marginalized to the point where we don’t have to listen to them lie any more. Much like the prior posting about the economy. At some point doesn’t the credibility of people that spout the Milton Freedman crap have to go the way of the people that hung on to the world is flat, earth is the center of the universe, witch burning crowd? Just how many times do these people need to lie, or get everything wrong before they stop being ask the questions? Can anyone name one thing that Bill Kristol, Bill O’Reilly, or Dick Chaney have right about concerning Iraq?

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osage Says:

900 American soldiers have died since the “surge” began. How can any sane American characterize that much death as “success”?

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slippy hussein toad Says:

Lindsey, here’s a fucking shovel. Keep digging, jackass.

The more bullshit these guys spew, the less credible their party becomes. In November we can replay these comments ad nauseam.

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AngryOne Says:

Over the past two days, the fawning American media has provided rave reviews of John McCain’s visit to France. While the New York Times lauded “McCain’s soothing tones,” Time gushed about “McCain’s Paris romance” and the transformation of Franco-American relations made possible by his warm embrace of French President Nicolas Sarkozy. But lost in these accounts is John McCain’s vitriolic France-bashing in the run-up to the war in Iraq. Back in 2003, John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with the Paris-hating purveyors of “freedom fries” and “old Europe.”

For the details, see:
“Fawning Media Ignores McCain’s Past France-Bashing.”

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Marc Says:

“It aint a lie if you tell it enough.”

-Wackiavelli

RayC Hussein @ 23:

I keep thinking that at some point people like Lindsey Graham and the rest of the cons will lose all creditability and be marginalized to the point where we don’t have to listen to them lie any more. Much like the prior posting about the economy. At some point doesn’t the credibility of people that spout the Milton Freedman crap have to go the way of the people that hung on to the world is flat, earth is the center of the universe, witch burning crowd? Just how many times do these people need to lie, or get everything wrong before they stop being ask the questions? Can anyone name one thing that Bill Kristol, Bill O’Reilly, or Dick Chaney have right about concerning Iraq?

The crowd they are playing to don’t care if they are right or not. All they care about is the meanness quotient and that right or wrong, the fuckers never admit it. I hipe what we are seeing is the last desperate gasp of the “angry white man.”

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ferrofluid Says:

from rawstory

Bush: Al Qaeda is in Iraq, stealing our oil
“An emboldened al Qaeda with access to Iraq’s oil resources could pursue its ambitions to acquire weapons of mass destruction to attack America and other free nations.”

or ‘we in ur oilfields potentially borrowing ur oil”

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0320.html

Jeebus - I need more coffee…please pardon all those embarrassing typos and grammar offenses.

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lost_nacf_gop Says:

It’s time to administer an IQ test to the entire state of South Carolina, and the entire populations of the congressional districts in Minnesota and Georgia where Michelle Bachman and Jack Kingston were elected. Either the voting machines are skewed there, or the people pushing the buttons incredibly stupid and gullible.

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ferrofluid Says:

lost_nacf_gop @ 31:

It’s time to administer an IQ test to the entire state of South Carolina, and the entire populations of the congressional districts in Minnesota and Georgia where Michelle Bachman and Jack Kingston were elected. Either the voting machines are skewed there, or the people pushing the buttons incredibly stupid and gullible.

some of us up here in MN dont like bridges or public spending or public education or common sense, so it was prob those ones.
sad that the only Blue State in 1984 elects these retards.

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Le Roi Est Mort Says:

What a pathetic little sissy.

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ferrofluid Says:

lost_nacf_gop @ 31:

Michelle Bachman is in Minnesota’s 6th congressional district which is bear and bigfoot country,
that explains a lot, instant voter recognition ;)

PS; MN is the most advanced State in the Union, bears and bigfoots get the vote up here btw.

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McCain the Liar Says:

Typical fake christian republican liar.

The truth always has a liberal bias to republicans.

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eric Says:

Baghdad’s Green Zone hit by barrage of blasts
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;3238906

Sunni militia strike could derail US strategy against al-Qaida
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....aq.alqaida

Things may be about to explode in Bush’s face.

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KT Says:

On behalf of my fellow citizens in MN-06 who are unable to muster the motor control necessary to type, or the mental capacity to understand thinking at a level higher than “don’t kill those babies” and “gummint taking my taxes again”, I apologize for our sin of sending Michele Bachmann to Washington. Although apparently she does suck a good face.

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Ted Says:

Like it or not, it looks like Lindsay Graham’s favorite Senator, John McCain, will be the next POTUS.

It seems Dems are on a suicide mission (if the nomination goes to Obama, many Moderates will desert to McCain; if the nomination goes to Hillary, many blacks will stay home).

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Lollimom Says:

We’re almost there, folks, almost there. Only a few more years of breathless waiting and promises of a bright future!

Only $3 trillion more in expenses, and the occupation will be a success.

The surge was a brilliant distraction.

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groucho Says:

Hannah Hussein @ 11:

Surge to nowhere.

80,000 Angry Men. Is the US Surge collapsing?

Thanks for the link. If Obama wins, since he talks to us like adults, do you think we might get information like adults? I’m sending this link to everyone I know and encourage them to do the same. We have to stop this insanity.

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odanny Says:

Wow, he starts out with a shriek about “Iran” (can these liars ONCE try and spin things without bringing up the bogeyman Iran) and immediately goes into the “I support the troops and Petreaus” mode, which is always their shield of “supporting the troops” mantra meant to deflect criticism (i.e., criticize bogus ‘progress’ = not supporting the troops)

“De-Baathification” and an “Amnesty Law”, wow!

And elections coming up? WOW!

Democracy is on the march, and oil revenues are UP!!!!!!

Casualities are DOWN while arms sales are WAY up, BOTH the Sunni and Shia death squads and guerrilla forces enjoy and appreciate their new BFF in Uncle Sugar and his limitless supply of money and guns.

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Britisher Says:

Google “US Iraq dead 1000″, then 2000, then 3000. Cut and paste dates. 1 minute
Type, format and calculate: 5 minutes.
Draw obvious conclusions: <1 second

THUS:

US Military Dead in Iraq

Period 1: March 20, 2003—-Sept 6, 2004 (approx. 18 months) total: 1,002
Period 2: Sept 7, 2004—-Oct 26, 2005 (approx 13 months) total: 2,000
Period 3: Oct 27, 2005—-Dec 31 2006 (approx 13 months) total: 3,000
Period 4: Jan 1, 2006—Mar 23, 2007 (approx 15 months) total 3, 995 (official= 3,991)

Average death rate per period (1000 / months ):
Period 1 = 55 per month.
Period 2 = 76 per month
Period 3 = 76 per month
Period 4 = 66 per month

Calendar year average (4000 / 5 years) = 800 per year or 66 per month.

The Period 4 (“Surge”) monthly average death rate was 13% LOWER than Period 2 and Period 3.
The Period 4 monthly average death rate is 20 % HIGHER than Period 1.
The Period 4 monthly average death rate (66) is THE SAME as the 5-year average death rate per calendar-month (66).

And let’s not forget that it now costs 40% more per month in 2007/8 than in 2003 to ensure that an average of 66 US soldiers die every month.

By the measure of US forces death rate–which McCain inisted was THE MEASURE of it;s success—te “surge” obviously isn’t “working.” Then add in all the Iraqi “Government” non-developments and factor-in the change in various militias strategies and it’s obvious that the “Surge” has had NO practical effect.

Another way to put it is that the sacrifices of US soldiers after 5 years have produced NO RESULT, and AREN’T GOING TO.

But of course everyone here knows that anyway.

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bmw H. 528 Says:

We’ll see how well served the Repubs were served in November by their surge of lies and deception, which fools no one except kool aid drinking droids like Graham.

Is there a gay-er senator alive than Lindsay Graham?

He and Larry Craig probably know all the best hangouts in all the best airport restrooms. My God, the man makes my ‘gay-dar’ practically explode!

Not that being gay is bad but he should come clean before his hypocrisy comes back and bites him where Larry Craig does…

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Ruthless “Don’t Call Me at 3:00 AM” People Says:

ConcernedCanuck @ 9:

Who voted this moron a senator?

South Carolina. Need I say more?

And it’s not the Kool-Aid, it’s the inbred stupidity!

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Ruthless “Don’t Call Me at 3:00 AM” People Says:

42 killed today in Iraq http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....mi_ea/iraq

The surge is working on all fronts!

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