While giving one of his standard “we’re winning in Iraq…I don’t care what you say” speeches today, Senator McCain was interrupted by MSNBC with some breaking news of violence from that country. Turns out Muqtada al-Sadr, whose cease-fire agreement was a major component to the declining violence, has decided he doesn’t want to play nice anymore, with forces loyal to him clashing with Iraqi forces in Southern Iraq, leading to at least 50 deaths and 120 wounded.
I can’t think of a more appropriate (although depressing) way to call McCain out on his BS.
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georgia10 has more on the Glorious Surge.
Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged the Iraqi government to end a crackdown on his militia after two days of fighting left more than 100 people dead across southern Iraq, an aide said Wednesday.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is leading the operation personally, his office said, with U.S. and British troops playing support roles.
The fighting threatens to unravel a seven-month cease-fire with al-Sadr’s supporters. U.S. commanders credit it with tamping down Iraq’s sectarian warfare.
Read Nir Rosen’s article in Rolling Stone: The Myth of the Surge
Hoping to turn enemies into allies, U.S. forces are arming Iraqis who fought with the insurgents. But it’s already starting to backfire. A report from the front lines of the new Iraq
Since John McCain has virtually staked his candidacy over the Iraq war, will the renewed violence in Basra trump any gains he’s made in the run up to the Presidency?
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Too bad people have to do die for others in this country to get the point that McCain is about as wrong as a pointy bowling ball.
Absolutely amazing. “If we leave, there will be a genocidal civil war.” WTF does he think is going on right now, the Spring Cotillion?
Iran is going to be blamed for the increase in violence and we’ll be dropping bombs on Tehran before the Summer. Tell the troops to have their iodine pills handy.
Oh, and forget about the general election. We’ll all be under martial law by then.
Didn’t McDrooler realize it was a house of cards?
Well that’s better than in the 70’s when they had to break into Watergate hearings to give us late breaking news regarding soap opera developments.
yellow dog @ 2:
If we leave it could become a full out civil war. That is something I’m worried about. An exit needs to be done in a responsbile manner that leaves the country as secure as we can.
How can US and British forces be not involved if the US is giving air support ?
Fate called bull$hit on McLiar this time! ahahaha! So just and so well deserved to show his lying hypocrisy. McFascist outed again.
Joe! @ 6:
Because the (illegal) invasion and occupation were done in a responsible manner ?
Maverick strikes again.
Just a quick history question here before any legitimate repartee, please - Iraq has been in a “civil war” for decades or perhaps you didn’t realize that? It’s irrefutible and indisputable. So why is the though of them returning to what they were before we illegally invaded them even an issue for consideration at this point?
Sorry, but I don’t see the logic.
Joe! @ 6:
Don’t think so. These factions may hate each other, but it’s obvious the hatred stems from supporting the US invasion and doing their bidding, from all the bribery. Sadr was quite happy taking US dollars. Perhaps they should have paid in Euros.
Comment #11 directed at yellowdog.
Guess McStupid was never informed through all the centuries he’s been alive that pictures tell the story , and a picture is worth a 1,000 words ; especially when those words are idiotic and always include “my friends”…….
Christy Hannity @ 7:
Because the media says they are not.
straight shooter!
Wait. straight talk, my mistake.
And if the morons in the white house knew one iota about the history of the Iraqi people, they would have realized that their already-existing civil war would intensify without Saddam there to quell it. Duh!
McIdiot is proving his profound level of stupidity every time he opens his mouth. I don’t know about anyone else but it’s almost impossible to look at his disgusting face these days.
You wait till the awakening council revolt, its gunna get a lot worse, no matter if the US leave or not, its a no-win scenario, something both the left and the right need to except, this is problem no outside force short of a massive UN intervention can “fix”, and even then only putting the vendeta cycle on pause. McCain is right about one thing, this will last a century, at least.
All about the BULLS**T Express!!!!!!!
The Third Reich was telling Germans they we’re winning also.
Ironic isn’t it.
ConcernedCanuck @ 12:
Their hatred is over power. The shias won’t stand to lose the control they had before the invasion and the sunnis have the majority to fight for it now. They are going to keep slaughtering the hell out of each other US inside or not. The only way to peace is through talks with their leaders. A pullout is good for America but will do nothing for Iraq but leave the country less secure.
Joe! @ 23:
What they need to broker peace is a leader they fear, and with a strong hand. Hmmmm…wonder where they could find a leader like that. Too late, he had dandruff cuz they found his head and shoulders in a US prison.
well, it was only a matter of time before al sadr decided to get back in the game.
better it be now so the republicans look stupid going into the election.
MCMetal @ 9:
AUB @ 20:
Not if nobody is supplying them weapons. Right now, it is claimed Iran is. Well, it would not surprise if a neighbouring nation supplied one side, since the US is supplying another.
Joe! @ 6:
you know, color me jaded, but haven’t they had an imminent civil war for the last 100 years or so? since Britian declared their borders in 1920?
the US was bound to have a civil war, there was too much animosity for it not to happen. fistfights in the Senate and whatnot… - I mean, it seems to me like a civil war is inevitable in Iraq. so I say, back off, let them duke it out, and whatever they decide, thats their decision..
I think the problem isn’t so much that if we leave Iraq, they’ll have a civil war. civil wars happen all the time. I think the problem is, if we leave Iraq, our GOP-dominated administration will be rebuked by the U.N. for creating a scenario which enabled a civil war, just before an election.
*shrug*
His last check from the White House must have bounced. Should have demanded payment in Euros.
Barney Google @ 3:
Ummm … this is how news gets scrubbed …
Heres the headline at Yahoo.ca:
“U.S. says Iran behind violence raging in Iraq “
But when you click the link well, loookee here:
US says Iran could do more to help end Iraq unrest
1 hour, 9 minutes ago
BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iran could do more to help end violence in Iraq, the US military said on Wednesday, calling on Tehran to use its influence to help end lawlessness in the southern city of Basra.
“There is no question that the government of Iran has significant influence in Basra, in the province and in southeastern Iraq in general,” said military spokesman Major General Kevin Bergner.
“We would love to see the government of Iran fulfill its commitments to help improve security and stability (in Basra) … and reduce the activities of those operating outside the law,” Bergner told a news conference in Baghdad.
Interesting huh? ……
Christy Hannity @ 26:
When McCokespoon is out of office, we can start acting responsbile.
Untold Prosperity huh?
The Lunatics are in charge of the Asylum
Ugh. I hate this whole thing. On one level I chuckled with the schadenfreude of McCain’s Fantasy Island episode being interrupted to bring us this breaking news.
On another level I was mortified that being right comes at the expense of yet more lives. The horror of what these abstract news stories represent is something I can only partially grasp.
In any case, maybe the media just needs to serve John McCain his steaming cup of Shut the Fuck Up.
curses curses! my friends pay no attention to the dead iraqys behind the curtain, ah my friends!
This is fu*king heartbreaking for so many reasons. More people are going to die and for what? Aren’t the Iraqi army for the most part fighting their fellow countrymen?
The white house spin is that the Iraqi army will try to handle this and if they can that will be a giant step for their army. Well, if they are able to handle it, then bring our soldiers the hell home.
It’ll be Saturday before McCain understands what is going on today.
Joe! @ 6:
It IS a full out civil war, genius. And we are the catalysts.
There is no more responsible thing we can do than to simply get our troops out of that situation. We are the problem. We cannot be the solution. In order to have ever credibly been the solution we needed not to have flooded the country with filthy money, lawless thugs, and run the whole affair with wanton stupidity. THAT SHIP HAS FUCKING SAILED.
oops!
Joe! @ 6:
there is already a civil war occuring
if we stay or if we go, it doesnt matter
but we are hemoraging money there….its time to cut and run
damn! those ambulance drivers deserve a medal ( see video)
oh yeah, that was the speech Bush palgiarized parts of ( I emailed C&L with the evidence, hoping they”ll post it).
“My friends, the surge is working”
I’m paraphrasing George W. McSameOldShit, here, but the truth is, this is going to be the quote remembered in history as the quitessential bullshit phrase of this war, just as “light at the end of tunnel” analogy was to the Vietnam War.
The news media of that time latched onto it then as every official and military man kept insisting it was nearly won, when in fact was they knew they were in a quagmire and didn’t have a fucking clue how to get out.
Many of the senior military have seen the tragic parallels and have tried to speak out, but are treated to harassment and early retirement for their efforts. Too many though, are afraid for their career and reprisals and keep silent. And we’ll be paying the price should we face another enemy with a broken Army and Marine Corps that can’t even field replacements for the surge troops coming home, never mind facing another threat somewhere in the world. We are fucked.
slippy hussein toad @ 37:
Now, now. There is some merit to the idea of leaving a skeleton force of peace-keepers in Iraq after we withdraw the troops.
I nominate the following in no particular order:
All members of PNAC
All members of AIPAC
Fox “News” Network
All right wingnut radio “personalities”
Any member of the College Republicans
We’ve gone off the deep end isn’t obvious?