Sadr tells Maliki to buzz off
By John Amato Saturday Mar 29, 2008 11:00am
The situation in Iraq is a boiling over in Basra now and soon the brewing hatred may spit across their land.
After failing to break the resistance of Shiite militias in the five-day siege of oil rich Basra, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki sent a top general to hold talks with his Shiite rival, Muqtada al Sadr, Saturday night only to be rebuffed by the firebrand cleric, an Iraqi official close to the negotiations said.
Maliki denounced Shia militants in Basra as the equivalent of Al Qaida, and Sadr told his supporters not to hand over their arms to a puppet state of the United States.
Siun has much more:
In the interview, al-Sadr said the militia's "strategic objective" was "the liberation of Iraq from the occupier," meaning the Americans. He outlined the aims of his political movement, saying he wants to rid Iraq of sectarian politics, prevent its breakup and create an Islamic society.
Firepups should note that al-Obeidi does not speak except at Sadr's request. He is making clear that the Sadrists are now given permission to "defend" and "protect" their fellow Iraqis from the occupation forces and from Maliki's attacks. The comments from Grand Ayatollah Sistani is at minimum a declaration that the religious leadership will take a hands off approach to what comes next and comes close to being a de facto approval of al Sadr's call for resistance to any who attack the rights and security of Iraqis...read on
I believe Gen. Petraeus is coming back to the States soon to give us an update on Iraq.
Petraeus, who is preparing to testify to Congress next month on the Iraq war, said in an interview that "no one" in the U.S. and Iraqi governments "feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation," or in the provision of basic public services.
All I want to know is does this mean we are still winning? Bush seems to think so:
The images from Baghdad and Basra bristled with explosions, burning buildings, angry street protests, rocket smoke wafting from the Green Zone. The words from Dayton were "remarkable" and "victory" and "rebirth." "Normalcy," President Bush said, "is returning back to Iraq."
Ahhh, there's nothing like "the smell of napalm in the morning---smells "like...victory."


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I just love how it's reported everywhere that Maliki decided this, Maliki's government did that. Blah, blah, blah.........Maliki does NOTHING without his puppet masters of the US military. That's why it's such a damn mess. Military "experts" even though, how long has it been since these "experts" were in a real war if ever? Right. Expert paper pushers.
I just love how it's reported everywhere that Maliki decided this, Maliki's government did that. Blah, blah, blah.........Maliki does NOTHING without his puppet masters of the US military. That's why it's such a damn mess. Military "experts" even though, how long has it been since these "experts" were in a real war if ever? Right. Expert paper pushers.
I just love how it's reported everywhere that Maliki decided this, Maliki's government did that. Blah, blah, blah.........Maliki does NOTHING without his puppet masters of the US military. That's why it's such a damn mess. Military "experts" even though, how long has it been since these "experts" were in a real war if ever? Right. Expert paper pushers.
I just love how it's reported everywhere that Maliki decided this, Maliki's government did that. Blah, blah, blah.........Maliki does NOTHING without his puppet masters of the US military. That's why it's such a damn mess. Military "experts" even though, how long has it been since these "experts" were in a real war if ever? Right. Expert paper pushers.
Huh, thats funny i heard on the MSM (I think MSNBC) that Sadr ordered his people off the street.
Maliki denounced Shia militants in Basra as the equivalent of Al Qaida, and Sadr told his supporters not to hand over their arms to a puppet state of the United States.
good thing the "insurgents" that won americas independence didnt surrender to an illegal occupation...
Bosho pisscardys back from iraq~
Well, theyve got a ceasefire now. Probably a backroom deal but its not quite the armageddon many hoped for. I think the end of the world predictions by the hardcore anti-war types is a mistaken tactic. No single event has that power and the real tragedies happen when things are quietier and the slow bleeding resumes.
"Huh, thats funny i heard on the MSM (I think MSNBC) that Sadr ordered his people off the street"
Yeah, they probably gave him another bribe will millions of your money.
The betrayus plan.
What is the word for "buzz off' in Iraqi?
why do the american media feel that al sadr is so controversial? or "firebrand"?
he sounds fairly reasonable to me. 'no puppet governments,' 'stand up for the iraqi people', and 'let's get rid of the occupiers'.
it'd be nice if some of our own presidential candidates were this serious....
C'mon if Busholini and McAsshole say we're winning who are we to doubt them?
*/snark off/
The information I've gotten is that there's a string attached - al-Sadr will have his forces stand down if al-Maliki releases those JAM fighters who have been detained without charges.
An interesting twist to the story thus far, if true.
Osama bin Missin' must be laughing his Wahhabi head off.
9 getalife Says:
Yeah, they probably gave him another bribe will millions of your money.
The betrayus plan.
He only gotta coupla bucks from me man.
11 bryancri Says: why do the american media feel that al sadr is so controversial? or “firebrand”?
he sounds fairly reasonable to me. ‘no puppet governments,’ ’stand up for the iraqi people’, and ‘let’s get rid of the occupiers’.
it’d be nice if some of our own presidential candidates were this serious….
...and murder Sunni men, women and children at will...
Dick Cheney and his little puppet George took us to Iraq and destroyed that country and the people in it. He was warned that he would open up the gates of hell and that is exactly what has happened. Malaki is our puppet and the Iraqi people know that. There really is nothing more we can do there to make this better - we need to leave and leave now. No more American blood needs to be spilled for Dick & George and oil. The Iraqi people don't want us there and they don't want Al quida there. It's an internal struggle for them now and hopefully they will get some help from those in the region that need a stable Iraq.
I truly believe that the only way our country will heal and ever gain any real respect again in the rest of the world is when we send those responsible for this to the Hague to be charged with war crimes and genocide. I wish I could believe that we are the kind of country and the kind of people that would make that happen. Don't you?
The MSM is reporting this morning, that Al Sadr has ordered his people off the streets.
"In the interview, al-Sadr said the militia’s “strategic objective” was “the liberation of Iraq from the occupier,” meaning the Americans. He outlined the aims of his political movement, saying he wants to rid Iraq of sectarian politics, prevent its breakup and create an Islamic society."
I think this is what would happen if the U.S. pulled out of Iraq tommorrow - The Shia tell Iran "Thanks for the help, now leave. Get out of our country." That is the part the neocon war mongers can't seem to understand. Everybody says that Iran will take over Iraq. Or they will have so much influence that Iraq will essentially become part of Iran. Well that will NOT happen. Iraq is Iraq. They don't want to be told what to do by Iran. Just like they don’t want to be told what to do by the U.S. Remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia let the U.S. stage in their country to throw Saddam out of Kuwait. And Egypt helped the coalition in that war. Both those countries are Sunni. Saddam was Sunni. In fact Egypt harbored an exiled Saddam many years ago but Egypt helped throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Being from the same sect did not help Saddam. Saddam didn't listen to Saudi Arabia when it came to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is Sunni like Saddam. Saudi Arabia let the coalition stage in Saudi Arabia to attack Saddam, a Sunni. Why would Iraq listen to any other country, i.e. Iran or Syria or anybody else? Why would they let Iran tell them what to do? So you see that just because part of Iraq and Iran are the same sect you cannot assume that Iraqi Shia will let Iranian Shia tell them what to do. The Iraqis are only letting Iran help them because Iraq wants the U.S. out! As far as the Kurds go they have it figured out. They're having BBQ on Saturday nights (probably). And the Sunni? They will have to figure out how to have their own area. Joe Bidden knows how this will work out. Most of them have left the country anyway. It will work out without us. And Al Qaeda? you may ask. Well the Iraqis will kick their sorry butts out (no matter what McCain thinks) in a matter of hours after the U.S. leaves. The Iraqis hate Al Qaeda as much as they hate the U.S. for invading. You can bet your bottom $ that no Iraqi will be told what to do by some Al Qaeda nut who all of Iraq hate. McCain does not even know who Al Qaeda is. Obviously the same is true with Bush. All you will see of Al Qaeda is the dust they kick up as they run for Afghanistan. Iraq will kick Al Qaeda out just like they will do to the Iranians, "Thanks for the help. Now get the hell out." The neocon war profiteers don't get it or they want this war to continue for financial reasons. You know this. I know this. 82% of the U.S. knows this. Getting out is the dilemma. The Republicans think that staying in is the delima. I'm sure the military can figure out how the hell to leave. They don't have to worry about all the junk they brought with them. Most of it is trash at this time anyway. It's worn out. Used up. Just get on a plane and leave. Remember Iraq was better off with Saddam. I've said it many times. Nobody wanted to say it at the time but it is true. Let's pack it up and leave tomorrow. You are either with me or... um... ah... won't get fooled again.
"Yeah, they probably gave him another bribe will millions of your money.
The betrayus plan.
He only gotta coupla bucks from me man."
I miss the quote button.
Anyhoo, CNN is having writers of books voicing their opinions on Iraq and w's foreign policy.
Too much truth today on CNN, Wolf looks depressed.
And yet the surge is working.
This is just another example that the Bush "surge" which was mainly deployed in and around Baghdad really did not do anything of consequence. In fact, the chief man who came up with the "surge" idea, Fred Kagen of AEI has now shown that the "surge" was nothing more than a farce. U.S. forces simply do not have the man power on hand to do much at all and I do not care how the Bush Administration tries to spin it.
Gordon Brown accused by US adviser over 'hasty troop withdrawal' in Basra
"Mr Kagan, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute think-tank, told The Sunday Telegraph: "British forces have an obligation to step up when needed and it sure looks here like they're needed.
"It is rather a watershed moment in the Anglo-American alliance. I understand that your Prime Minister has already said that the special relationship is over. There's an issue here of fulfilling your obligations as an ally, freely undertaken."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/30/wiraq130...
…and murder Sunni men, women and children at will…
evidence?
George Bush lied yet again. This Iraq escapade has failed in every possible way....and will continue to fail. The only groups that still want our dumb asses in Iraq are the Bush crime family and Al Qaeda.
If you understand the Maliki government is a paper tiger; no support whatsoever by any Iraqis, then you know that he will be swatted aside by one of a number of factions at their whim. The US armed forces are his mercenary gang, and the longer they stay and prop up this guy the more blood and treasure goes down the drain.
I am not sure the best extraction strategy is, but it should be the ONLY thing being discussed right now. How fast can we get the f*^k out of here. As usual the MSM has been quite cooperative selling the disastrous bush/wacky Mac "we're winning, victory is imminent" bullshit. We no longer have a part to play in the political drama, no matter what bush/cheney thinks. Their window has closed.
23 Left&Left Says:
George Bush lied yet again.
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He must have said something...
McCain's not helping; Confuses Shia with Chia Pets
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1672
Joe O. if that isn't a blackwater op posing for the camera... I mean check out the class ring... Those other two guys look really engaged... I saw a very similar picture in my local paper yesterday: same guy, same gun, different clip though, he had a belt in that picture...
And he's kinda pasty to be native...
Are our military bases over there being built as permanent bases or just temporary to rid the country of WMD's, Remove Saddam from power, and bring democracy to the country? I hope we aren't building permanent 100 year military bases and no one is talking about it except John McCain.
I can tell you what the best extraction strategy is:
1. Remove all contractors.
2. Hire the Iraqi people to rebuild their own country.
3. While everybody is busy making a living and improving thier lives and environment slip out of town.
…and murder Sunni men, women and children at will…
and can anyone here point to an effective resistance leader who seized a glorious opportunity NOT to kill people?
in the aftermath of our invasion of that country, there were leaders vying for power. and in order to gain power, you have to kill.
welcome to the effects of our invasion.
bubba @ 8:
who the hell was hoping for armageddon?????
we just want our troops out of that quagmire
we dont need our people there to shuttle monies over to al sadr....bush can do his dirty work himself
“Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr on Sunday ordered his fighters off the streets nationwide and called on the government to stop raids against his followers and free them from prison.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23866765
Now all that needs to take place is for the Americans to stop bombing innocent civilians and the release of thousands of prisoners. Peace in 3…2….1
Yep, the check cleared so we are back to business as usual. I'm being snarky because I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell is going on. Hayden (director of the CIA) said this morning that he had no more notice of this than Petraeus or anyone else. I do find it strange that this all happened right after cheney was over there. Did Cheney tell Maliki to do this and the US would back him up? Then bush says this will be a defining moment if Maliki's army or police can clean out Basra. Are they (our govt) trying to plant some idea that things are under control in Iraq so they can bring some more troops out? That would be beneficial to the McCain's campaign.
I hate it that I always feel distrust for the govt and feel they are always trying to pull something over on us. But I think I have a valid reason for feeling that way.
bubba @ 8:
Well, theyve got a ceasefire now. Probably a backroom deal but its not quite the armageddon many hoped for. I think the end of the world predictions by the hardcore anti-war types is a mistaken tactic. No single event has that power and the real tragedies happen when things are quietier and the slow bleeding resumes.
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If i was hoping for armageddon i would have voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004.
EliteLemming. That could very well be. I had to look at the picture posted again as I didn't really notice it the first time around.
Could somebody pretty please respond to this?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything, but I'm really curious as to how this factors into this post. I don't see how both stories could be happening at the same time. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks.
On Sunday, Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) showed once again that President Bush, John McCain and their conservative amen corner can't tell the players in Iraq even with a scorecard. Even as Graham proclaimed of the fighting in Basra, "the militias that we are fighting are backed by Iran," President Bush and Vice President Bush continue to embrace the largest Iranian-backed political force in Iraq, the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council led by Abdul Aziz al-Hakim.
For the details, see:
"Bush, Cheney Embrace Iranian-Backed Hakim in Iraq."
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 29:
Absolutely! Had this been done about five years ago, we wouldn't be in this miserable mess and imagine the number of lives that would have been saved....not to mention the money.
noodleboy hussein @ 36:
Whoa. I think I need to practice using the link function.
39 noodleboy hussein
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That's ok, we get your point.
I can think of several possiblities.
Sadr stands in firm opposition to the US and Maliki and does not want to appear consiliatory. At the same time he may not want his followers killed.
There are myriad other possibilities.
38 pissed off patricia Says: xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 29:
I can tell you what the best extraction strategy is:
1. Remove all contractors.
2. Hire the Iraqi people to rebuild their own country.
3. While everybody is busy making a living and improving thier lives and environment slip out of town.
Absolutely! Had this been done about five years ago, we wouldn’t be in this miserable mess and imagine the number of lives that would have been saved….not to mention the money.
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I agree, but that should not stop us from doing it now.
noodleboy hussein @ 36-
Tim F. at Balloon Juice explains it well.
I agree xoites, what I meant is that it would work now and it would most likely have worked way back then. It sure would be worth a try. Especially getting the contractors out of there, where they should never have been.
Well Post in #44 made no sense. Alack, will somebody please explain how to do the quotes now?
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Am I wrong or is this absolutely a no-win situation in the true sense of the term?
If Maliki does not bring down this uprising, then chaos will spread? If Maliki does bring down the uprising wont we and Iraqi government have to use such draconian force that the reaction to that will bring about chaos?
As Ben Stein would say, "Anybody? Anybody?"
Sadr is not going to have his people murder Sunni's at will. People who talk like this are ignorant of the close blood-ties and family connections of Iraqi's. Sunnis and Shias don't want this kind of blood-shed- its exactly why Sadr is trying to start a ceasefire right now because in the end it is Iraqi's who are being killed on both sides. Sadr is the one that has been reaching out to Sunni groups for reconcilation and has been denouncing any and all attacks on Iraqi's. The only reason this even started is directly because of US involvement. When the Iraqi resistance first started- the United States specfically used people who were Shia to infiltrate resistance groups to get their identities and begin arrests.
The sooner we leave, the sooner Iraqi's begin to live better lives and figure out for themselves what government they want. How can people expect Iraqi's to accept a government that was propped up while they were under occupation.
@ Kathy in St. Louis
Well the reason there's an uprising is because of the constant crackdowns the current Iraqi government is having against dissenters of Al-Maliki's government(reminds me of a man named Saddam Hussein). Why do these people dissent? Because Maliki's government came about during US occupation, and he gets funds from the US government- how can people accept this? Al-Sadr has also provided more for many people in Southern Iraq than the Iraqi government ever could, in terms of fuel, food, and other humanitarian assistance.
The only win- situation is for the US to leave and then Iraq can begin anew with Maliki stepping down.
45 Different Anonymous Says: Well Post in #44 made no sense. Alack, will somebody please explain how to do the quotes now"
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I jus cut an' paste man.
The Shiite militia attacks on American forces account for only about 5 % of our casualties. Probably only after US forces stick there noses into places they shouldn't. But the retoric implies that the Iranian back Shiites are responsible for the attacks and incredibaly, arming the sunni militants (their enemies). More of same to ratchet up for conflict with Iran.
John Doh @20... "And yet the surge is working"
Yep and the residents of the Green Zone are being told to get to highly reinforced areas and stay off the streets...and if there is a need to be on the streets, to use uparmored vehicle.
Working surges....priceless
Lying pResidents and stupid followers . . . they have got to go.
This is the inconvient truth as I have come to know since my days in Vietnam. The occupied countries rulers and their buddies are getting rich from the money falling from the sky. Just like Vietnam we were wasting billions and the spending was unaccounted for (remember 9 billion dollars missing last year). The black market and government corrupting were rampent. The Iraqi government took a vote and pretty much asked the US to stay. Of course, they are getting rich. The people in the street want the US to leave by a large margin.
Get out.
32 Roket Says:
“Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr on Sunday ordered his fighters off the streets nationwide and called on the government to stop raids against his followers and free them from prison.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23866765
Now all that needs to take place is for the Americans to stop bombing innocent civilians and the release of thousands of prisoners. Peace in 3…2….1
"cept that according to RawStory:US WARPLANES WIDEN AIRSTRIKES IN IRAQ
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/US_warplanes_widen_airstrikes_in_Ir...
So nice we are all on the same page.
Do shrub and Betrayus really want us to be the Ultimate Bad Guys in the world?
We're winning. Only 95 years to go.
Uncle Chimpy wants YOU!!!
The U.S. Government is now paying off terrorists. Just like North Korea...Our tax dollars hard at work. Once the American voters discover how much and for how long, the outrage should pile on Mctraitor. This election can't get here fast enough...
One of the biggest lessons of this entire fiasco is that America often chooses to go where angels fear to tread. When we listen to our politicians, it's easy to see that they can't tell the players apart. McCain, Lindsey Graham, Lieberman, don't know a Sunni from a Shia, and don't seem to care. Our government had very little knowledge of the Middle East, or our leaders unwilling to listen to experts who could bring them up to speed before we barged into Iraq. Now we are stuck in a mess that, not only can't we fix, we really don't even get, even after 5 years.
Garry Wills was on NPR back in 2003 or 2004 warning that the best thing we could have ever done for our old "Axis of Evil" buddies, the Iranians, was to go into Iraq and dismantle it. The Iranians had wanted to do it for years, but didn't want to invest that kind of time and money, so they lived in stalemate with Saddam. We very kindly went in and did the job for them, spent our money, lives and worldwide credibility to do it.
Sometimes believing you are the biggest player in the world makes you think you can do anything
Hey A SOLUTION!!!!!
"I truly believe that the only way our country will heal and ever gain any real respect again in the rest of the world is when we send those responsible for this to the Hague to be charged with war crimes and genocide. I wish I could believe that we are the kind of country and the kind of people that would make that happen. Don’t you?"
While this may not be in fact the 'only way' it is a great start - Bring back the rule of law!!!
We do need a strong showing that justice has a place in our political system as that would go a long, long way to leading US onto the road that matches our little fantasys of 'What America Could Be'. It is obviously a long hard struggle and you know we are loosing. When we get on the offensive they will give consesions and we will go back to sleep. Then thier ORGINZATION will come back out of the shadows...Where they have been working the whole time.
Those with the gold make the rules.
Wake up.
Impeach
Hang
Party like it's 1984
Impeach
Hang
Party like it is 1984!
At any other time or place this surge (money paid to the sunni warlords and their fighters) would be called protection money. If this is the case the American people should be told the truth. We should be disscussing the problem and the possible blowback that may come. Already the sunni warlords have more men and arms that they nearly outnumber the Iraqi national army. This could turn out to be another disaster in the making. What happens if we stop paying them? What happens if and when we decide to leave (if ever). Are we also paying the shiites?
No, why not? Will we support a sunni coup, bloddy as it will be?
This sounds real dumb, no?
"...best thing we could have ever done for our old “Axis of Evil” buddies, the Iranians, was to go into Iraq and dismantle it. The Iranians had wanted to do it for years, but didn’t want to invest that kind of time and money, so they lived in stalemate with Saddam."
If you forget about Sadams reasons for invading Kuwait. If you forget about the Gulf War in '91. If you ignore Madalene Albright's admission that our sanctions had KILLED over 500,000 CHILDREN in Clintons Iraq. If you forget that we were bombing Iraq every week for 10 years....Forget about the No Fly Zones, Agressive inspections
And lets forget the actual war between Iraq and Iran where we tried our best to bleed them both and play them off each other...
A stalemate...Who knew...
Iatolah Chenny?
Iran has it's sovienty INTACT. No bombings, no 'No Fly Zones' no invasion, no occupation...And no Shaw.
Ever see a picture of Rumsfeld and Sadam shaking hands?
Ever see the same shot with the Itolah?
Ever see what they did to Sadam?
Ever see them do the same to an Iranian Leader?
A stalemate would have a different structure, no? Can Bambi and Godzilla be in a 'stalemate'??
Impeach
Hang
Party like it is 1984
Did you all see report that Yahoo is giving data on Tibet desenters, it is all pretty clear now. Tinaman square bring back any memories. USA fascist and China are in bed togeteher. The War in Vietnam was just another hoax perpentrated by MIC (Jews). The bankers are intent on all of us to be slaves to NWO. yAHOO AND THE OTHER Co are traiters to freedom loving people of the world. Arrest them all.
Good for Al-Sadr. They are trying to wipe out Al-Sadr and crew, because he is against the privatization of Iraq's natural resources(did somebody say oil?), is against foreign influences (including Iran), is against the de facto colonization of Iraq by the US and is against any permanent US bases. In short, he wants Iraq to be of and for the Iraqis. That puts him right up there with the anti-Christ, so far as the neocon Bushies are concerned.
Blood borders
How a better Middle East would look
June 2006
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899
I snagged the maps included with the original article; they've been removed.
Here they are:
Middle East before re-drawing borders:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/OldBuffalo/Maps/BeforeSmall.jpg
Middle East after re-drawing borders:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/OldBuffalo/Maps/AfterSmall.jpg
....."the surge is working", "the surge is working","the surge is working","the surge is working","the surge is working"........
Please, all together...just keep saying it, and it will be true......"the surge is working","the surge is working"....
at least Sadr has a plan, which is a bit more than the neotards have.
Sadr tells Maliki to buzz off
Sounds like a good slogan for
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/6/68/Buzzcola.jpg
Either that or masturbating bees.
44 Different Anonymous Says: I believe it’s “Kalishnakov”.
Gesunheit.
Sadr tells Maliki to buzz off
or, maybe not:
Sadr Offers Deal for Truce as Fighting Persists in Iraq
New York Times - 1 hour ago
By ERICA GOODE BAGHDAD - The Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr on Sunday took a step toward ending six days of intense combat between his militia allies and Iraqi and American forces in Basra and Baghdad, saying in a statement that his followers would lay ...
Muqtada Sadr orders followers to end fighting Los Angeles Times
Sadr followers caught off guard by truce Reuters
The good news is the Bush Administration has a back-up plan to fix this mess. The bad news is that the plan is to dump Maliki and bring in Chalabi. He'll be greeted with flowers!
Andy "George W. Bush has never been elected. The ‘Machine’ took it and gave it to him." K Jong Il @ 42:
Very nice. Thanks. I have now been unconfused. The whole Middle East situation is so incredibly complex it's no wonder our current crop of retards in power have no idea who's who or what to do about the total clusterf%*k we've thrown ourselves into.
You know what? I'm bored with Iraq. It's been in the news now almost as long as WWII was. Time to pull the troops out. Sure there are a some very good reasons to pull them out and even a few decent reasons to leave them in. The bottom line, however, is that the country can't afford to keep 130,000 servicemen and women in Iraq (as well as paying all the mercenaries this administration employs).
So, we can't afford it. The burden is being placed on a relative handful of Americans to the point that some of the stories about servicemen being returned to the war or having recruitment bonuses deducted for injury seem almost Kafka-esque. There are no (few?) discernible signs of progress. But, just as importantly, I expect that fatigue is setting in at last among a lot of Americans. 9/11 was a long time ago.
Let's end the war and move on to more stories of celebrities.... (No irony intended).
The bush boot lickers her in America should hang thier heads in shame. But being they have souls of evil they will not.
America is sooooo screwed!
"Conflict Between Iraqi Government and Al-Sadr Show the Realities of Iraq
BAGHDAD, Iraq — The Iraqi capital locked down by curfew. U.S. diplomats holed up their workplaces, fearing rocket attacks. Nearly every major southern city racked by turmoil. Hundreds killed in less than a week."
This is from an AP news story posted on *gasp* fauxnews.com. Not exactly front and center. That honor was reserved for a guy who has a collection of John Wayne Gacy memorabilia and an article on whether or not Hillary should stay in the race. I'm curious as to how this story made it onto the site at all. Interesting.
Oh, and two slightly less prominent articles titled "Clear and Present Danger" and "Muslims Have Overtaken Us". Now this is just pure comedy. The Onion definitely has some competition here.
Al Sadr is the future ruler of Iraq. Isn't it obvious enough yet?
Just another CLUE that we have no ideal what is going on over there and don't have any ideal who is in control.
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