Medved: Clinton, Obama Signal The Coming Of The Atheists
By Logan Murphy Thursday Apr 10, 2008 12:41pm
Michael Medved hops, skips and jumps to a conclusion:
Now that we’ve broken barriers with history’s first viable female and African-American candidates, opponents of organized religion hope for a new campaign in which a brave politician makes a credible run for the highest office even while proclaiming his non-belief.
Aiyee! What was the high-pitched noise that just pierced my eardrum, yet remained on the periphery of frequencies I can consciously perceive? Whatever it was, I’ve suddenly developed a sneaking suspicion of dark-skinned presidential candidates who don’t believe in God and wear skirts.
Just as the Queen plays a formal role as head of the Church of England, the President functions as head of the “Church of America” – that informal, tolerant but profoundly important civic religion that dominates all our national holidays and historic milestones. Read on...
America's favorite movie-critic-turned-right-wing-concern-troll, who didn't think slavery was as bad as bad as all that, proves once again why he's considered a national treasure. Doesn't Mikey know that the very mention of the word "atheist" threatens our civilization? In the name of all that's holy, think of the children, man! Snark off.
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With that mustache, he should consider porn as a career.
and medved signals the coming of the neoslavers.
really, though, the medved's of the world have sped up the end of the "conservative" movement. thanks! oh, btw, the moustache makes you look like a pedohile.
Dr. Hussien Matt @ 1:
He's too stupid to be a porn star.
Now...crash test dummy...THAT he's eminently qualified for.
Another chickenhawk heard from. How can this man recite the Haggadah and not be struck down? And as a proud highlander I take the skirt reference rather personally.
Doesn't the First Amendment protect the separation of logic and mustache?
Are we in Wonderland yet? WTF! I am just speechless. I think all these guys stepped over the line to Crazyville.
Has this man been seriously drug tested? If not, why not?
fiver @ 5:
winner
Also, I just finished The God Delusion. Man I like Richard Dawkins.
Christ, the next thing they'll be telling us, is the Earth is flat.
Medved prays to his God, George W Bush.
P.D. @ 6:
John Stewart had the best quote..."Someone replaced his Manischewicz with crazy juice!"
He "looks like" a terrorist.
Medved is a disciple of the Church of George W Bush.
Somebody should tell that fucking retard that the Constitution of this land specifically prohibits religious tests for public office:
Article VI:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article6
The atheists are coming! The atheists are coming!
OT, but very important:
Bush personally authorizes torture; Was not ‘insulated’ from NSC decisions:
http://www.dailykos.com/ story/ 2008/ 4/ 10/ 95033/ 2181/ 104/ 493151
NANCY, ARE YOU LISTENING YET?? MAYBE I CAN HELP FIND YOU A DAMN TABLE!!
Sounds like he's referring to Condi Rice.
When will this shit end? The Media is a whore to the Administration and big business. If not, idiots like this and Hannity, Coulter and Malkin would never have a platform. I feel like getting buzzed right about now.
And that's what we call a non-working link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/10/95033/2181/104/493151
Sounds good!
I want more politicians who think religion is a bunch of fictional nonsense!
What happens when we pass away? I don't know. And neither does Medved or anyone else.
Repeat after me, Michael Medved, "You are a false prophet and God is a supersition."
in between claiming that atheists are immoral medved defends torture, illegal wars, domestic spying, administration lies and preemptive nuclear war.
that, my friends, is why the rightwing is shriveling like a... i won't go there--but it had to do with medved in a pool.
first, obama is a muslim
then, obama is a hateful, violent christian
now, he's an atheist
Hillary has not really been submitted to a religious litmus test, but suddenly she's an atheist.
They will apparently be pulling these jackasses out of their sphincters until november.
I think that it's actually good because cable ratings will continue to drop and media wil completely destroy their already-flagging credibility.
That's a beautiful thing to contemplate.
We've had a Retarded president.
What Church of America?
"Church Of America" ...???? Wtfrick???
Sounds like Ved should up his Meds ...
Are they worried that their Big Box Churches will no longer be tax-free?
I'm in!
Another Fuggin' Zombie for Christ.
If George W. Bush is the informal head of the 'Church of America,' it's long past time to become an [word deleted to protect our children].
Wait, if we just deleted a word to protect our children, won't they wonder what the deleted word was? Oh, wait, that's right - thanks to NCLB, they can't read!
Leslie @ 23:
The Big Shiny Glass one full of white people where you tell your sheep how to vote and then go back to your tax free enclave in the Caymans, or Palm Beach ...
Atheists are people too. After all, God made everybody, didn't She?
No taxation without representation. All atheists who want the tax money back which is going into the black holes of Iraq and Afghanistan (and maybe Iran), stand up!
I think Revolutionary Wars were fought over this kind of thing.
I called into that fraud's show a few years ago. Got RIGHT in, no busy signal. I was on the air in 20 minutes. Have to figure he's got about 16 listeners and is propped up by the usual right wing welfare orgs (payouts in "book deals").
He was nattering on about the Ten Commandments and how they should be posted in court rooms.
I pointed out that the Ten Commandments are uniquely Jewish, not Christian, and the very first commandment (thou shall have no other Gods but me) is violated by the very idea that Jesus is divine. The Third Commandment (thou shalt not have graven images) is violated by the display of a cross as a holy symbol, or any statues of Jesus, Mary or any of the disciples.
Medved rambled on about how I was "ignoring" 2000 years of Christian reinterpretation of the Ten Commandments (Because those commandments are real hard to interpret), and then hung up on me.
What a piece of bowl movement.
The biggest enemy of of organized religion is spirituality.
Michael Medved, as I may have already pointed out on SN!, is one of those ever-present reminders that 50% of human beings are of below-average intelligence.
I'm beginning to think that the Conservative movement is in fact constituted almost entirely of that demographic, and that's been the problem with Conservatism in the U.S. since, oh, forever. Because if there are any prominent smart conservatives I haven't seen them recently.
Hey mike, Say Wha?
I like this guy...
Medved--you're so transparent.
"Now that we’ve broken barriers with history’s first viable female and African-American candidates, opponents of organized religion hope for a new campaign in which a brave politician makes a credible run for the highest office even while proclaiming his non-belief."
(In my best cheney growl) "So?"
is there a downside? i don't get it.
C Quil @ 27:
Geez, I'm standing!!!!
Sir Bedevere: "And why do you think this woman is a witch?"
Superstitious Villager: "'Cause she looks like one!"
Accused Woman: "They dressed me like this! And this isn't my nose, it's a false one!"
Sir Bedevere: "Did you dress her like this?"
Superstitious Villager: "NO! Well ... yes. A bit. We did do the nose. And the hat."
Second Villiager: "She has got a wart!"
Third Villager: "Burn her anyway!"
Rep. Davis: "Stop that! This is too silly! Can't have our children finding out about these beliefs! Turn off the camera!"
::: hand hits lens, picture tilts up, video ends :::
Michael,
Lay off the Grecian Formula....
I don't believe it was atheists who were held up in that Texas compound having sex with under age girls, it was the religous nuts. But the religious nuts say it's the gays and atheists who are a threat to American society and family values. Go figure.
someone needs to let medved know what 'tolerant' really means.
Hey, why isn't Slimeved out celebrating Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week with his BFF Horowitz?
Leslie @ 23:
The Church of "I'm so clueless about the real world, it's amazing that I'm able to cross the street safely".
pissed off patricia @ 32:
Really!
THESE PEOPLE are christian, so they must be part of that great church of amurKKKa. They certainly can't be as evil as those atheists.
Liberal AND Proud @ 40:
The Church of America that doesn't believe in the Constitution and the separation of church and state.
Classic example of a reich-wing nut sycophant afflicted with chronic stupidity. Spouting complete and utter nonsense in the interests of spouting more brain-dead, complete and utter nonsense.
This particular sycophant needs a growth removed. Its mouth. The list of casualties could include the brain and the mustache. Luckily - in this case - neither hold significant value and would not be missed - however, it would be tricky surgery and potentially harmful to the subject.
To avoid these problems we suggest instead that the subject simply stop talking - despite the problems that would result from an under-fed ego.
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This is stupid as hell.
How long must a man belong to a Church before people recognize him as a member of that Church?
Medved should stick to pontificating about movies like "Shark Tales" promoting the gay lifestyle.
Another made-up term by the reich-wing
CD @ 45:
Only as long as it takes the church to deliver the donation envelopes to him.
"I’ve suddenly developed a sneaking suspicion of dark-skinned presidential candidates who don’t believe in God and wear skirts."
Oh hell no he just insulted Atheists, Theists, non-whites, Scottish people, and people with an IQ above room temp.
Doesn't this asshole know that Queers can't get into Heaven .
Medved did what can be expected of the Fox News Republicans in this coming campaign--associate perceived (but non-existent) "evils" with Obama or Clinton to scare the electorate. I have not heard or read anything that could be interpreted as meaning that Obama or Clinton are atheists, yet Medved, a la Fox News Republican, has deviously associated Clinton and Obama with a possible atheist president.
The sad thing is that this propaganda works among certain sectors of our nation, which are bound to believe anything Fox News Republicans tell them, to hell with the facts. The best defense against this scam is for Obama and Clinton to declare publicly and often that they are not atheists.
Unfortunately we still live in a society where an atheist is considered 'evil', but such is the state of our nation.
I much rather have a moral atheist President, than an immoral, lying, arrogant believer as President, who feels absolutely no qualms, nay, believes he is divinely-inspired to invade and kill innocent foreign civilians, I repeat, INNOCENT CIVILANS.
To say nothing of the politician that only pretends to believe in a god to get elected, but then completely disregards any of that god's teachings... naw, that could never happen, could it?
WinSmith @ 28:
I love listening to this cement head. You don't know what you're missing; If you think Fawn Vanity is an idiot, well you ain't seen nuttin' yet. Even Billious O'Liely can't hold a candle to this moron. Truely the exemplar of the Cement head movement. Nyuk, Nyuk ...... Keep spewing, Mike.
I am a regular church going person who welcome, and maybe even prefer, an atheist for president. I think these religious nut jobs have ruined religion for the rest of who have happily worshipped in peace and let the rest of the world do what they want.
Yeah, watch out for those liberals. First they have a female candidate for president. Then they have a black man candidate for president. Watch those liberals because you just know one day they are going to run a homosexual candidate for president. Can a non-religious candidate be far behind? See, we have always had white religious men as presidents and that's what has gotten us where we are today.
Where are we today?
BIGBONEDED @ 50:
That may or may not be true least in Christian theology.
I should have said
"I am a regular church going person who would welcome, and maybe even prefer, an atheist for president."
Alkali Bill @ 36:
...and the Kool-Aid!
I betcha Mr Medved was embarrassed when he saw this picture of himself and discovered there had been a small rodent sleeping above his upper lip when the camera flashed.
Alejandro #51 is right. Good catch too! Medved is suggesting that Obama and Clinton supporters also oppose organized religion.
Medved:
Yes, we don't have an established church, just an informal and civic one. And it's so tolerant, that it couldn't tolerate a non-believing president -- like say, James Madison or Thomas Jefferson.
Come on, Medved, we've got a devout Christian starting our wars at the moment. I'm an atheist, and I'd rather not kill people en masse in wars of choice. Now, which one of us would you really rather have as an American leader?
Wait....don't answer that.
Hmmm...no gays in heaven. It must be a hideously decorated place then.
LOL! Sorry...couldnt resist!
An awful lot of awful things are done in the name of religion.
What kind of awful things are done in the name of atheism?
Liberal AND Proud @ 48:
I've known Christians that make a point never to donated a dime to their Church.
Instead they help out with food distribution.
pissed off patricia @ 63:
Probably as long a list as the things done in the name of GW Bush.
What's wrong with a guy wearing a skirt? Seriously, if a girl can wear pants why can't a guy wear a skirt? I guess sexism works both ways in the GOP.
Yikes! Some day all American men will pierce their noses and decorate it with a whale bone, while the women folk stir porridge o'er an open flame.
The end is nigh.
Fuck Medved....his opinions are shite.
He is as useless as the popes balls.
Liberal AND Proud @ 62:
And the Musicals would suck :-)
Liberal AND Proud @ 62:
HA! Good one!!!
So according to medved...all the gays must end up in hell...that means that hell must be faaaabulously decorated!
fiver @ 5:
With great mustache comes great responsibility.
I can't wait for 30 years to go by to have all these ideas dead in the ground. I hope I'm still around to see it.
I understand that a lot has happened in the last 10 years or so, but when did the States ratify a new Constitutional Amendment declaring that the President of the United States is the head of the "Church of America"? Is this so called "Church of America" based on one of the following sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Calvinism, Lutheranism, Methodism, Baptism, Quakerism or maybe Mormonism?
pissed off patricia @ 55:
The White Re-PIG-lican Christian Male majority is on the endangered species list and they know it. They absolutely can't stand the fact that they are doomed to be a minority. When that happens the voters will take their bombs away from them and send them to their rooms until they learn to play nice with the other kids.
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Sounds like he used lead tubing in his 'still (and it got into his 'white lighting'.)
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 70:
The Devil DOES wear Prahda!
Liberal AND Proud @ 65:
Can you name one? Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of belief. About the only actions I know inspired by lack of belief is to protect non-believers from discrimination or speaking out on behalf of those who do not believe.
Not that there aren't evil atheists. There are many. And famous Communist ones from the 20th Century committed some of the worst crimes imaginable. But not because they did not believe in the supernatural. Rather it was because they believed in a Marxist/Leninist dogma, and were convinced that any action taken to further it was inevitably justified and destined to succeed.
"President functions as head of the 'Church of America' "
Since friggin when kracka? The homegrown Ayatollahs wouldn't tolerate the competition!
Eric Hussein Almighty @ 71:
Gay people wear the handle bar mustache as a way to identify one another. Straight people aren't supposed to know that. It's a secret. Don't tell anyone.
Liberal AND Proud @ 76:
Bwaahahahahaaaaa!!!!
chuck @ 79:
That can't be true. Freddie Mercury had a sweet 'stache!
chuck @ 79:
Ah....so THAT'S why I keep gettin pinched on the butt by burly lookin men with handlebar mustaches. *smacks head*
Eric Hussein Almighty @ 81:
Yeah! and the village people all had 'staches
TF-MA @ 78:
The very idea of a 'Church of America' with Bush at it's head is frightening and insulting on so many levels that I'm not sure where to start.
"Church of America"?! WTF do they pull this sh!t from?
Standard conservative wing-nut fear mongering:
- The atheists are trying to take away Christmas
- The terrorists are going to come here and force us to be Muslims
- The illegal immigrants are taking away your jobs and healthcare
- The gays are cheapening the meaning of your marriage vows
... so you have to:
- Ban the word 'atheism' so our children don't find out about it
- Start a war in the wrong place and leave it for the Democrats to clean up
- Get our lawn chairs and guns and patrol the border ourselves
- Pass a law to protect the 'sanctity' of marriage
... instead of:
- Teaching our children to think and letting them decide for themselves
- Picking the right target and having a realistic, achieveable mission from the start
- Addressing the reasons immigrants will risk coming here illegally
- Cleaning up our own acts (infidelity, diaper-wearing, pedophile Congressmen) first
Sigh.
tallerghostwalt @ 85:
Oh c'mon...you're not REALLY looking for an answer are you?
"The Devil DOES wear Prahda!"
So does the pope... anyone ever catch a glimpse of those red shoes he sports?
tallerghostwalt @ 85:
Where does most sh!t come from?
Medved is a weasel-voiced twerp who thinks he knows what he's talking about. Apparently, he doesn't.
Just to give credit where it is due, for people who don't want to jump to Medved's hate page, almost all Mikey's readers run him through the wringer, laughing while they do it.
I for one would welcome having people who don't NEED to talk about their invisible cloud being in public. I am really sick of people who "believe" in their god talking to the rest of us like we were the crazy people.
I am atheist and proud of it. I live by morals that begin and end with me, I try to live by the golden rule and only treat people as I would like to be treated. And I don't need to fear of an afterlife to live by my rules and so far I have had a great life and I expect it to continue along this great path. NO GOD REQUIRED!
"Are they worried that their Big Box Churches will no longer be tax-free?
I’m in!"
I'll 2nd, 3rd, and 4th this proposal!
tallerghostwalt @ 93:
I'm with you on that! I say we should tax all the churches! I would include Synogogs and Mosques as well.
Karen @ 61:
His article addresses that, Karen. He also addresses Thomas Jefferson. You should read it.
Everyone that has commented here, should read it. He doesn't conclude at all that an Obama or Clinton presidency would or could pave the way to an eventual atheist as President someday.
He's very fair, open and honest about atheism. in fact, I don't see how an atheist would be offended by this article.
It's actually one of the best articles I've read on the subject in a long time.