Ron Paul supporters force Nevada GOP to shut down convention
By SilentPatriot Monday Apr 28, 2008 11:00am
Who says Ron Paul is out of the race?
AP via TPM: (h/t Scarce)
Outmaneuvered by raucous Ron Paul supporters, Nevada Republican Party leaders abruptly shut down their state convention and now must resume the event to complete a list of 31 delegates to the GOP national convention.
Outnumbered supporters of expected Republican presidential nominee John McCain faced off Saturday against well-organized Paul supporters. A large share of the more than 1,300 state convention delegates enabled Paul supporters to get a rule change positioning them for more national convention delegate slots than expected.
"I've seen factions walk out. I've never seen a party walk out," said Jeff Greenspan, regional coordinator for the Paul campaign.
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Where is Drugbaugh and his, "reich-wingers never riot", rant?
L.O.L.
O.T. ... but bery interesting.
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In other words, Fix his screw-ups for him.
Now That's Entertainment!
So, the Potemkin Village Repugs got pwned by the very people (peasants?) they sought to exclude? LMAO! Serves them right!
Paul must have showed up at the convention with some black folk...and some Mexicans. Aaahahahahahahaha!!
Shiva H Vishnu @ 3:
Historically, Democrats always have to fix the damages left by the reich-wing GOPigs.
Delicious!
Any chance Paul would run as an Independent or Libertarian? The chasm between Paul and McCain is probably wider than that between McCain and Obama or Clinton.
Gotta love it.
Shiva H Vishnu @ 3:
LOL Sounds like shrub: "Quick! Do something to make me look good !! I want to go out with a 'bang'!"
We'd like you to go out with a bang too shrub but no one will let us fire you out of a cannon.
We should get him one of those ugly plastic novelty trophies, glue some little flag pins to it and hand it to him. Here you go shrub. You are officially the world's WORST human being.
I bet he'd think it was a compliment.
Sweet! Nice to see the other party have a little dust up for a change.
i like a lot of ron paul's message!!
obama/paul 2008
ow, that stangs!
the ron paul and the huckabee factor (as seen in the PA GOP primary) are rarely covered by the corporate news (surprise, surprise). this is a serious schism over the future of the GOP, and the MSM spends more time talking about rev wright... who, in case you couldn't tell, is NOT running for president.
It's a shame these guys don't know more about Ron Paul's actual libertarian agenda. What kind of society would we have if he could have his way? Not what you'd think. I did a 2+ hour interview with one of his most ardent supporters and we talked at length about his agenda. It's worth a listen. You can also hear the podcast on iTunes (look for the title on Libertarianism).
screw you guyz...I'm goin' home
I wonder just how long it will take for the Paul supporters to find figure out that Paul has no chance of winning. This seems to be a fact that they don't want to accept. While he may be interesting to some, he just doesn't have enough support overall. The Republican nomination is over, it will be McCain.
These people seem to think that if they screech loud enough, perhaps reality will change. Despite the incredible efforts of his supporters in making tacky, hand-made signs along the road, putting stickers on every large road sign and crying foul, the guy still has no chance.
And they say the Dems are imploding over Obama and Clinton?
FWIW, I live in CT-05, which has lots of (affluent) Republicans but which also in 2006 threw out Repub Nancy Johnson and elected Dem Chris Murphy to the House (excellent choice, IMO).
There are LOTS of Ron Paul supporters in this neck of the woods, which is very anti-war.
So that's where they all are! I was wondering, since no other state seemed to be able to find more than a handful of Paul supporters.
And a RIOT, no less! Not trying to steal other commenters' thunder(ses), but -- I thought Republicans Don't Riot!
'Sup, bitches??
There isn't a peep of this on CNN that I could see. Oh but there IS an article by a wh reporter that talks about how "exciting" and "fun" it is to cover the president oh and how hard it is not to gain weight. Oy.
marko @ 13:
That is hysterically funny. I'll be Ron would Loooooooooove that.
marko @ 13:
Hahahah! You're out of your fricking mind! Obama is running an ad right now on TV in Kentucky telling us he's going to impose a windfall profits tax on the oil companies and start an alternative energy program. What would Ron Paul do?
Not one damn thing! Let the freeeeeeeeeeeeeee market figure it out (while millions of people die, of course).
Exchange one nut for another, that's the repug way.
This is some strange repug shit.
Is anyone surprised by this? If an election isn't going the way it's supposed to, you shut it down. It's the Republican way.
Ron Paul is my favorite presidential candidate, and after him was Bill Richardson and then Barack Obama (and then all the rest). Well, Dodd and Biden were up there too.
What people don't understand about Ron Paul is that his positions are mapped out to such detail that it's not hard at all to keep the movement going even without him being on the news on the time. Whether you agree with him or not, a "Ron Paul Republican" is a label that stands behind a certain philosophy of government, regardless of the party in power or the peer pressure put on to conform to whatever the definition of right wing is at the time. That's why he was able to oppose Iraq before it happened, and he was right.
As an Obama supporter, the GOP needs to get a real beating this time around, and as a Ron Paul supporter, same thing. A GOP victory this time with McCain at the helm would validate what they've been preaching for the past eight years. A big defeat and they'll be forced to spend the next four or eight years thinking over their mistakes, and about what small government actually means (hint: small governments don't start wars in Iraq). That's why we're all in the same boat here.
ashton @ 17:
Perhaps you miss the point. Most Paul supporters freely admit (barring an act of God/ freak accident etc) that Paul won't win the presidency.
What they can do is expose the rigged game of elections, wake people up to the realities of the Federal Reserve, expose the blatant bias of the corporate media etc, etc.
And as this latest incident illustrates, they're doing quite a decent job of it.
ashton @ 17:
Hey - we're one heart attack away from the nominee being Paul! Now THAT would have the GOP scrambling to change the rules!
On the Clock @ 9:
He said no way - don't have the link
right on 27 frank !!!
Kucinich/Paul 08
marko @ 13:
Bite your tongue man!
marko @ 13:
No thanks...ron paul is a REPUBLICAN....Enough said.
Big John @ 29:
Get real!
Ron Paul is the only thing funny about the Republican Party.
He's got a blimp, man!
I think the Paul supporters know that Ron Paul will not be President. What I think these supporters are doing is pushing back against what was once seen as a Republican party in lock step. They, along with many other Republicans and Independents are very disgruntled right now. What this incident indicates to me is that the "all of one mind" Republican party is no more and that those who want the status quo to remain are going to find it very difficult to keep that party together.
I love this old guy. I love Hillary. If he has a chance to run. I'll drop her in a heart beat!
the ron paul's folks are like energizer bunnies. They keep on going going going going.Very funny though.
That's hilarious.
I've jumped ship from Ron Paul to support Obama but I salute their efforts.
Repugs have painted themselves into such a tight corner, that now even REPUBLICANS hate Republicans !
They ARE right, there IS a God !
I also think that it's sad that Democrats hate on Ron Paul so much. He stands up for a lot of things that a lot of Democrats won't stand up for.
He is an ally on many many issues, and hating on him makes you a partisan fool just as bad as Bill O'riley or Rush.
Think about it.
Vote for Paul? Only my choice was between him and McSame and I wasn't allowed to vote Green or vote a write-in. Basically, never. He's a republic[sic] and therefore a scorpion and I am not drowning because I was stupid enough to get stung while giving him a piggyback ride across the creek. Sorry! He's a sweet old fart in a Webster kind of way and he's right on Iraq and our Constitutional rights, but that isn't enough.
Joe O. @ 34:
AGREE! Obama stands for real Democratic values but you don't see democrats fighting nearly as hard to take back their party.
I admire them.
Support for Ron Paul is no mystery.
He opposes the war and wants an IMMEDIATE withdrawl.
No other candidate is even in that ballpark.
insect @ 39:
Know a man by the company he keeps. Just sayin'. Hard to vote for him considering with whom he breaks bread.
Dr. Acula @ 32:
'Real'ly enough, both men have expressed their openness to the idea.
Being two of the only candidates not owned by special interests or in the pocket of the Brzezinskis and Rockefellers of the World it's not that surprising.
Are you really happy with more of the same?
This proves how wacky paul supports are. With 1% (maybe less) of the repug cabal supporting paul he's surely going to win. Dream on.
repugs don't have the numbers, the race isn't close. I don't know what the hubbub is about. mcjetty doesn't have a snowball's chance.
Logic is foreign to repugs
Operation Chaos in your face, Rush!
At least there is some dissent within the Republican Party. Those who aren't willing to goose step along with the Neocons.
ashton @ 17:
yeah right, why let messy democracy get in the way of shoving McLame down the GOP's throats. Even the rancid GOP deserves to have a vote in who they want to represent them, don't they?
Maybe that isn't what you meant, Ashton. But it sure sounds like you are arguing for less democracy not more. Hasn't less democracy gotten us into a huge pile of shit? Maybe we should let the people have a voice, whether they win or not?
ps Why so dismissive of "screeching"? History has proven that people who do "screech loud enough" often change reality. Screeching, in fact, is often a prerequisite for changing things. Long live the screech!
#39.
umm, Bingo.
Pile @ 15:
I heard enough from masta paul.
Ron Paul's message is powerful for he speaks truth to power. He does what he feels is right and his record prooves it. He voted against this war. He voted against the patriot act. That is more than I can say about the rest of the candidates. I support Obama as I feel he is the front runner I agree with most. I agree with Ron Paul on almost everything. He has a message of freedom. Respect for the Bill of Rights. Most would trash it. Oh I forgot, they already have. If we have no rights left the rest is unimportant.
Obama/Paul 08 ticket would strengthen Obama's white male support and bring many conservative votes to the party. Win, Win situation.
The GOP is hopelessly divided. They cannot win this election.
Geez....some of you liberals who "heart" Paul obviously don't have a clue what he stands for OTHER THAN GETTING OUT OF IRAQ. This guy is to the far RIGHT of Republicans on most issues, basically doing away with almost all forms of government regulations that actually help people and/or keep an eye on corporations. Privitize everything! The "free" (laughable term) market is the answer to all questions!
Puh-LEEZ!!! Yes, it's refreshing to have a Republican rock the neocon boat and call them out. But to suggest he is some sort of populist progressive is to ignore 95% of his wacko views.
Do some research, fer cryin' out loud!
Woo(effin)Hoo!!!! Ron Paul supporters rock!!! Keep kickin the butts of those McSame, McVain supporting fools...
insect @ 39:
He also stands against many, many Democratic issues.
Think about it.
marko @ 13:
The establishment is trying to control the message on both sides of the political fence. The country is in an uproar, but the MSM is in the hip pocket of corporate elites, so they try to marginalize the silent MAJORITY on both sides.
This country is headed for an upheaval, and I can hardly wait.
Matt Hussein in Texas @ 53:
+1 with a vengeance!
I've read up on this and I would think the head line is a little incorrect. I think it was more like "Corrupt GOP shutdown convention to prevent Ron Paul supporters from having their way".
paul doesn't believe in government but he will play a politician.
All aboard. First stop, Wackyville.
It would also show Barracks willingness to work across party lines for the good of the nation. Paul would make a great Secretary of the Treasury. He knows the financial machine inside out and he understands the tragedy that is looming because of manipulation of world bankers for thier own self interests. He has stated we are becoming a fascist state right to their (Fascist') faces.
ben @ 31:
TBH thats what i think is wrong with americans, politics has become like supporting a football team, .... take a lot of right wingers, they don't like McCain yet tehy're going to vote for him just so it's there team that wins.
Joe O. @ 34:
Ron Paul gained most of his support from issues like the war and gitmo. I have to say the idea that smaller government and less regulations leads to more Enrons and Sub Prime disasters. It is easily seen that the three remaining legit candidates are not going to make big changes (big changes we need desperately). I think Kucinich was the man but I was happy to see support given to Ron Paul because it showed that people recognized the fact that he was different and thirsted for it. After this little riot I have to quote Michelle Obama and say that I am proud of America for the first time.
I mean at least Pauls supporters aren't saying,
"Please don't be mean to me. Please let me win sometimes!"
Shiva H Vishnu @ 3:
That would be easy to solve! Congress shall pass a new Bill to allow George Bush to leave office! problem solve!
So do many "democrats".
Harry Reid usually supports legislation that is pro-life.
Pelosi took impeachment and standing against the war off the table.
SO grow a fucking brain and stop being so sanctimonious. An intelligent person picks their battles and recognizes an ally when they see one.
He is one of the few people who will vote to protect our rights, stop the war, and cut back on big business.
Think about it.
Every single problem this country is currently facing stems either dierectly or indirectly from The GWOT and specifically the war in Iraq.
Our battered economy..
Record oil prices ...
Our Defecit ...
Torture ....
Corruption ...
Illegal wiretapping ...
Our World Standing ..
etc, etc, etc .
Ron Paul is certainly not someone that liberals would normally turn to at any time, but we are in unusual and unprecedented times. A stiff kick in the nuts from someone as radical as Paul may be the only way out of this mess.
Lets end the war ASAP, then we can get back to the business of running America.
Paul's big here in Idaho too. They got close to something like this within the party, but the mainstream GOPers were able to shut them down. Too bad.
The fact that this many Republicans like Ron Paul and his anti imperialist war message gives me hope that not everyone in that party is totally daft.
insect @ 39:
He may be an ally on some issues, but on really big issues, he's a mortal enemy.
And if he has so many things in common with Dems, why is he part of the filthy republic party? Just answer that one question with convincing arguments. The republic party is made up of:
traitors
treasonous high-ranking officials
war mongers
fascism supporters
corporate welfare supporters
military cowards
election thieves
killers of Iraqi citizens
corporate media propaganda tools
...and the list goes on and on. RP obviously believes he has more in common with the republic party than the Democratic party.
I love to see the filthy republic party in turmoil. That's the only purpose RP supporters perform, as I see it.
I'm no Raul Paul supporter, but it's not to say SOME of his anti war message resonated with me. But here's what I don't get: if he has such a strong and vocal support as we just saw in this entry, why is McSame the Rep nom? I honestly feel that there is a disconnect and I don't see the same passion coming from McSame supporters. John is seems to be BEGGING to be supported, so I don't get it.
Mark @ 58:
You're right, they saw the Paulites were going to win the vote for delegate selection, so they shut it down. here's a first hand account:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/47172
tHeHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 59:
Is that the capital of Assmonkeydom?
Is that east or west of Crackpottsylvania?
ashton @ 17:
I'm a Paul supporter, and know that he has no chance of winning. However, if everyone just rolled over and died everytime an impossible odd was put before them then surely that would be encouraging to the likes of McCain. McCain and those like him exist because we simply accept their bullshit, and think theres nothing we can do about it. I know McCains already the republican nominee, but if Ron Paul can do anything to make John McCains nomination more difficult, then ill support it till the end. You can't blame people for wanting their party back.
Whew...that was unexpected, to say the least!! And it could potentially make things very interesting indeed...I for one might not mind seeing Paul draw some support away from McCain, especially not in light of the disturbing potential for a serious fracture within the Democratic Party after the convention which would virtually guarantee a victory for McCain.
I Am A Banana @ 69:
Because virtually all of the Ron Paul supporters are located in Nevada, as we've seen. It's true that what happens in Vegas tends to stay in Vegas.
Also, I think most of Paul's base is the radical survivalist/racist kind. It's hard to get them to admit it, but not hard to find corroboration. His donors, for example.
Pile @ 15:
What kind of society would we have if McCain got elected? Not much better as we've found out from the Bush years. Of the two I'd happily take Paul over McCain.
andy @ 61:
On Larry King dingbat laura said she was for the repugs, but didn't say mcouch's name. What meathead.
traitors
treasonous high-ranking officials
war mongers
fascism supporters
corporate welfare supporters
military cowards
election thieves
killers of Iraqi citizens
corporate media propaganda tools
These are not the policies of consevatives, they are the policies of NEO-conservatives aka the 'New GOP'.
I Am A Banana @ 69:
My spoon is too big!
insect @ 65:
ally... for who? not me. corporations, sure, despite paul's best intentions.
so, you are:
wrong, right, and wrong.
Wrong:
he will not protect our rights. how would he? he would dismantle any and all agencies that shield us from corporate greed.
Right:
he would stop military imperialism... if he could. i support him in this effort, but aligned against the military-industrial-entertainment-corporate complex he would have a tough time. still, though, commendable. so maybe instead of 'right' i should say 'doubtful'
Wrong:
he would NOT cut back on big business. again, how could he? if he destroys the agencies that actually have the power to protect us (although they have not due to corporate infestation of said industries) who, then, is going to cut back on big business. they certainly aren’t going to do it voluntarily.
you are a bit confused, and maybe caught up in the hype. but, consider the reasons a lot of corporate regulations came into existence in the first place: they were needed to protect the people. you get rid of the agencies and regulations and you have screwed the people.
i think you heart is in the right place, i just don't think you have thought this thru....
I believe I speak for all of us when I say, A HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Who's tearing apart their own party now!?
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
Are you talking about hillary?
slippy h. toad @ 74:
Wait until the Montana convention. McCain's support is lukewarm to say the least.
Paul-heads are almost as bad as ditto-heads because neither of them understand the real issues. Sure, getting out of Iraq is good, good for Paul for saying it... but Gold standard? Return to the 'free' market and an end to government regulation? Excuse me? Not only that, but he's a conspiracy fear monger to boot.
Paul supporters need to do some checking on his ideas... and not on other Paul-fan propagandist websites. What a stooge.
http://ronpaulgraphs.com/donors.html
This where Paul has his strongest support, I believe that the same map gets generated when you look at where UFO sightings are more prevalent.
Chico Hussein @ 77:
Stop clouding the argument!
Those ARE the republic party; those ARE what the current, existing republic party embrace. RP embraces THAT republic party of which I speak.
Why do you duck the reality of this?
Chico Hussein @ 77:
repugs have corrupted the government and the military. Everything is tainted.
ALThomas @ 83:
There are a lot of wing nuts in the Paul camp and a lot of intelligent thoughtful people also.
You have to look at Ron Paul and realize there are areas where we absolutely agree with him (Iraq, constitutional rights, no nation-building). Those on the right who support him hate the war every bit as much as Dems do.
There are bridges that can be built here. Or, are we too proud for that kind of behavior?
Part of a total victory here is converting some of these people on the right. If they met you half way, pissing all over them won't exactly win them over.
horrible thought but: McCain/Clinton vs Obama/Paul ?
The commercial media was able to stamp out the campaigns of Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards, but they are having a hell of a time killing the Ron Paul movement. I really appreciate his views on some things, disagree with him on most things, but you have to give the guy credit for his integrity. Deep down, most Republicans know their candidates are all a bunch of crooks and sellouts. I think that's why his supporters are so dedicated. The political landscape would be worse off without him.
Metroplexual @ 84:
Ron Paul has lead all other candidates in fundraising among active servicemen. Not suprising, considering how little value the neocons place on their lives.