FOX News: Lincoln debated <i>Frederick</i> Douglass in 1858?!?
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Apr 29, 2008 9:00pm
Turns out the Rhodes Scholars over at "Fox and Friends" think Abraham Lincoln debated Frederick Douglass in the famous Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858. Of course it was Stephen Douglas. Something tells me Frederick would have had a tough time winning a Senate seat back then. Just a thought.
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"Ha. Ha. Rather than spending time mocking their intern, Clayton might have recognized that was Frederick Douglass, the 19th-century African abolitionist leader who certainly wasn't running for any Senate seat."
Well they are going to have to revise history anyway...
silence from the obamans!how telling!lets hear it for one ,thats one real debate, hasnt been one in a long long time!!!
And THIS is the source of information for a big segment of the American populace. OH.....MY......FUCKING.......GOD!!!
And this class of brainless schmucks is in charge of our security, food safety, etc, etc.
I'd mentioned this earlier on a previous thread - I'm glad you caught and posted it.
Simply unreal. It's one thing to use the wrong person but quite another to naturally assume that in 1858 a black man was debating Lincoln for the Presidency. The levels of stupidity and negligence on this one is beyond palpable.
For the record, I think Frederick Douglass was a hero. It's a side mission in my life to write a screenplay on this amazing persona of U.S. history. Aside from 3 seconds in "Glory" I've never seen the man portrayed in film. That's a shame.
As to Fox News? Again. Unreal.
LOL - I can only laugh at this story because it's so ridiculous. A Black man participated in a Presidential debate as a candidate during slavery? LOL...ahahahaha
Oh... Wow! LMAO!!
Mister Anderson @ 6:
Senatorial debate.
Republicans love showing their stupidity. When you point it out they then call you an elitest for correcting them. I guess I'd rather be an elitest than a stupid bastard any day.
What a bunch of idiots.
Anyway, here's my latest video [Deleted. Free ride's over Joe-Sitemonitor]
D'Oh. Correction - Senate, not President.
Fox News should start reporting the truth
OR be investigated and tried for illegal propaganda.
We Can't Believe What is Happening to Our Country.
We certainly Need To Turn Off the TV and Read
There is alot going down. Espionage Spying Case. 23 Apr 08
CI Center is in Alexandria, VA.
http://cicentre.com/spycase/ben_ami_kadish_case.html
We also remember that Bush Gut the Espionage Oversight Board on March 15 2008.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/03/14/preside...
Its so sad what war has done to our country over the last 7 years.
Now we also hear that Toby Keith performance interrupted by mortar fire in Afghanistan.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/30/toby-keith-performance-interrupted-b...
"I recognize the Republican party as the sheet anchor of the colored man's political hopes and the ark of his safety."
Frederick Douglass
My, my. How things have changed. Wonder if FD would vote Republican today...
I'm not sure which most firghtening -- that a FUX News intern thought video might exist of the Lincoln-Douglass debates, that the FUX News talking heads don't know who the Douglas of those debates were, or that no one noticed that the guy in the picture was black.
I do think it'd be funny, though, if the intern had slipped that picture onto the screen. "Yeah, you got me, assholes. Now I'll show you."
Oh this was on "Fox And Friends"!!! More proof that these are the stupidest motherfuckers on daytime TV.
This is how people perform when they are reduced to subservient ass kissers to those above them.
Glaring errors, screw ups, inability to perform their jobs correctly without needing permission from some idiot, complete and utter lack of detail, quality, and impeccability.
On and on and on. It's about self preservation.
Frederick Douglass by all accounts was a brilliant man.
Stephen Douglas was an able debater who won against Lincoln in the Senate election of 1858, but lost the Presidential election of 1860. The South in 1860 split the Democratic vote with their own Democratic candidate, thus handing the election to Lincoln.
Maybe Clinton will run as an independent?
When you are used to getting all of your talking points from the WH or the Pentagon, it is hard to look up real facts. Faux has no jounalists.
Karen @ 14:
Eek, no, the most frightening is the number of typos and errors in my comment. Sheesh, Karen, proof read! ;)
Karen @ 14:
#9 beat me to it, but you have to know they'll be calling you elitest for having the nerve to point out their idiocy. It's downright unamerican to be smart these days, you Islamofascist...
Zzing!
dumb-asses.
FNF have a collective IQ of a sock full of dingleberries. It is hillarious how many times they make asses out of themselve. Oh yeah, an Dooooocey's kid too. Genetic morons.
Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 17:
maby obama could!
FOX is State Sponsored TV
Aw, ya went and burst their bubble now! :lol:
Fox News is sending subliminal messages to Republicans.
White Republicans (ie Mr. John McCain or Mr. Abraham Lincoln) can win elections against Black Democrats (ie Mr. Barrack Obama or Mr. Wrong Douglas).
FOX is State Sponsored TV, which means they are powerful, incompetent liars.
I have to hand it to the Fox News Netwits, they never let a lack of historical facts get in the way of an outrage.
faux noise is phoning it in anymore.
Ozguy @ 13:
Frederick Douglass was apparently a very brilliant man, and would surely see the democratic party for what it is...a bunch of Bush suck ups...
patriot act? no prob mr Bush.
invade Iraq? go ahead mr Bush
more money for war? here ya go George.
impeach Bush.....God forbid...
I wonder what happened to the people responsible for the visuals? They might be on Murdock's or Ailes's basement [putting the lotion on its skin.]
Man, that's scary. Even my 8th grade students know the difference between Douglas and Douglass.
milquetoast @ 30:
It sounds like you would be the right person to run for congress or the senate. You're are so impressive with your comments, I'm convinced that you could get the job done.
Gaaahhhh! Teh ST00p1d! It burns!!!!
Frederick Douglass, as an escaped slave would not have been a citizen of 19th Century America. He was seen as a radical on par with Cindy Sheehan (closest modern analogy there is off the top of my head) at the time. Fred was a brilliant man indeed, his autobiography is a must-read for understanding what it was like to be a slave in the 19th Century.
Frederick Douglass was one of the most awesome men the United States has ever produced, but sadly enough he would not have been eligible to run for President (which he actually did in the 1880s,) until the 14th Amendment gave former slaves citizenships.
But that wasn't even a Presidential debate, it was a race for the national Senatorial seat in Illinois. Stephen Douglas is a man who was misguided to the point of bordering on evil in terms of the consequences. And, also, Stephen Douglas has one "s" in his name, Frederick Douglass has two.
And this guy is a Rhodes Scholar???? O.o
We are all much too hard on FuxNews. After all, it is an entertainment network, isn't it?
Of course, the mouth-breathers and old folks who watch the network wouldn't have a clue about the error, or perhaps anything about the importance of the debate.
Ron @ 33:
Thanks! but I dont pay any income taxes anymore so I would be immediately trashed in the mainstream media for being unpatriotic.
Ex-canuck @ 35:
you paint a bleak picture ! im sure the mouth breathers and old folks thinks your generations shit too!
Any bets as to how long it will be now before Fox reports we. . . a) “discover” that Iran has thousands, if not millions, of WMDs pointed straight at the United Parking Lot of America because they hate our freedumbs, b) declare Iran to be a threat to the democracy of the entire world, and c) cobble together a coalition of unwilling-but-dumb allies to go in with us when we invade, in order to give it the pretense of being a multi-state effort?
Tune in tomorrow when Fuxed-up News presents an expose on how their guy Tom Dewey really did beat Truman in 1948.
Everyone involved in FOX News should be deported and BANNED from America!
However, that wouldn't be fair to the rest of the world, you know, handing them our shit.
These professional liars remind me of that old foghorn leghorn cartoon with that sniveling little weasel trying to eat the chickens.
this is just one more example of the total absence
of facts from fox reporting.
bmw 528 @ 39:
Yeah, and the commentators will note that the likely reason Truman got the presidency involved the powers-that-be and their antipathy to the Dewey Decimal System.
And it'll all be followed by a tribute to Sen. Joe McCarthy.
Holy shit.
I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT LINCOLN ACTUALLY DEBATED....
KIRK DOUGLAS
Spartacus: What's your name?
Lincoln: You don't want to know my name. I don't want to know your name.
Spartacus: Just a friendly question.
Lincoln: Gladiators don't make friends. If we're ever matched in the arena together, I have to kill you.
New marketing slogan for FOX: "Fox News - Bringin' the stupid"
Something happened in 1858? I'll bet Fred and Wilma and Barney and Betty were there to witness this event.
I rather enjoyed when Keith ran this, and for the boxer James Buster Douglas, they ran a picture of the old Sega Mega Drive game box art. Nerd-tastic.
The Bill Moyers show on PBS where college and high school-educated respondents were asked to find Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Israel on a world map and only 23% of the college-educated under the age of 25 and 6% of high school-educated could find all four, despite the fact that the map they were given was labeled.
Everyone but the 23% and 6% must be employed by Fox and it's various tenacles.
Bush Regime back peddles on it's lie that somebody else put up that Mission Accomplished banner. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mission_accompli...
White House propagandist Tokyo Perino blames the media, says: "President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," White House press secretary Dana Perino said Wednesday. "And we have certainly paid a price for not being more specific on that banner. And I recognize that the media is going to play this up again tomorrow, as they do every single year."
How about this banner Tokyp Perino? "mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission for Halliburton's no bid government contracts so Cheney's stock options could increase 3,200% yet managed to come back home with life and limb in tact provided the don't get stop lossed again and get get killed on their 4th tour for big oil," Guess it would have wrapped around the aircraft carrier twice so the banner was deemed too large.
Bitch.
tyree @ 37:
tyree, I disagree with the word "shit" that you used. Until you are in my head keep the personal attacks to yourself...
Our country is indeed in a bleak situation at this time, or do you only watch FuxNews?
Karen @ 42:
Fox news is calling ex Bears quarterback Bobby Douglass right now to get his take about his great, great uncles participation in the great debate.
Is this a mistake or a way to remind the Neanderthals that Obama is black. Maybe it is just me or I'm getting paranoid, but Faux always has a political agenda.
just another reason to pull their press credentials. fox is an entertainment channel and should not be able to present themselves as a news channel.
Ex-Canuck @ 50:
no i dont but seems to anyone stupid to come here from canadas a dumby anyway!
P.D. @ 52:
FUX typically has an agenda, but I think stupidity trumps Machiavelli on this one.
P.D. @ 52:
It's manipulating viewers into a state approaching criminal obliviousness.
sorry dummy!
tyree @ 54:
You are only making my point tyree. Check your spelling and grammar before posting.
Further proof that FOX is the news source for the criminally insane....and Hillary supporters.
Karl Rove - the criminal who is employed by FOX News
probably was at the broadcast controls.
Heres a new ad. .. not a Karl Rove type fear and be afraid ad.
Obama ad airing right now in Indiana and North Carolina.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/gasprices1
Keep speaking the truth.
The people will stand with the Truth.
Bill O’Reilly Claims Frederick Douglass Supported Expansion of Slavery
Ex-Canuck @ 58:
what dont you understand about a canuck comeing here being dumb?
I know we're not supposed to feed the trolls, but everyone look at this "tyree" douche bag.
He's a Republican (You can tell by the horrible grammar, spacing, spelling and continual use of exlamat!on points) posing as a Clinton supporter who also just happens to be defending Faux News. Say what you want about Clinton's supporters, I don't think any of them like Fox.
You should try a little harder next time, dipshit. You're not convincing anyone to change their minds.
Reminds me of that Fox special on W. Calling him the most gifted speaker of our time.
mrplow @ 63:
troll sonny ive been posting on here when you were still crapping your diddies!
What can you expect from complete, moronic imbeciles?
tyree @ 62:
What don't you understand about spelling and grammar tyree? Your lack of literary skills is only amplifying my point about those who use FuxNews as their major, if not their only source of information about what is going on in the world and the country.
I had to move to the US - and did it LONG before reagan and the bush boys screwed with The Constitution to such a degree as to make the country unrecognizable from what it was before the neocons and the grossly incompetent hijacked it.
tyree @ 24:
You again.
Obama will have the Democratic nomination, there will be no need to do anything else.
If Clinton wins all of the remaining contests by 60% (Arkansas has been the only state she has done that in), the 211 Florida delegates are seated by the actual vote (which is what Clinton wants) and the 156 Michigan delegates are divided 50/50 (the only possibility since Obama was not on the ballot), Obama still wins.
Clinton will not win the remaining contests by 60%.
It hubris that is driving Clinton forward, and Republicans who want the Democratic contest to continue. It is over. It is the Corporate Media that has manufactured the idea that it is still a contest.
Whenever someone mentions Fox News I think about Operation Mockingbird. The secret CIA plot to manipulate public opinion that was exposed during the Church Committee.
tyree @ 65:
Dude, give it a rest. Nobody gives a shit how long youve been posting. Either stay on topic or read more, type less.
tyree @ 65:
sorry but i dont recall defending fox !especially since ive never watched it! as for my spelling spaceing commas periods who gives a rats patootie!
Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 68:
well good for hillay ! you go girl!
sorry hillary , know how you love good grammer!
odanny @ 70:
who asked you kid?
tyree @ 71:
Sloppy use of the English language, especially in a written forum, makes one look like a mouth-breathing FuxNews watcher tyree. You may well be a Mensa genius, although I somehow doubt it, but if you were, one would never know it from how you present yourself or your ideas in this forum.
tyree @ 62:
Hey Tyree, what nationality are you? Those translation sites like http://babelfish.altavista.com/ don't do a very good job.
Ex-Canuck @ 75:
its because of you snobs and upitty nerds your going to lose this elaction, but hey its your nickle see if you can turn in to a dime! i still want a debate between clinton and obama , maby it will go in the history books like the lincoln douglas debates! whats the problem , got no faith in your man?
tyree @ 73:
You can't even spell GRAMMAR!
Thanks for the laugh.
sorry its kind of dark in here and i hit the wrong key , thats election!!!!!!!!
mrplow @ 63:
I dont think tyree is a republican. but he sure is a mess tonite. probly extra pissed off! ...somebody grab tyrees keys!
tyree @ 77:
Your doing this bad grammar thing on purpose right? Keep advertising your ignorance tyree. It goes well with your lack of intellect in the ideas you put forth...
tyree @ 79:
gimme the keys man!
And the irony award goes to......
Ex-Canuck @ 81, for:
Your doing this bad grammar thing on purpose right?
;)
Don Davis @ 61:
Mr. Douglass was also known to shout "More iced tea motherfucker!" on several occasions. It's true - Bill O'Reilly said so.
Was there no one at Fox to say "My God man have you lost your mind? Can't you see that man is a ni...?
Conservatives live in a world of their own creation. Their world has it's own heroes, villains and a unique and bizarre history. If one can believe that global warming is a scam cooked up by the powerful and devious climatology lobby and that Ronald Reagan is the single greatest leader/human/genius in all of history, then believing Lincoln debated Frederick Douglass is hardly a stretch.
As an example, go to any real conservative and tell them you've forgotten the name of the great conservative who lead America to victory in World War ll. They'll chuckle and say ,'Silly liberal, how could you forget Winston Churchill?'
Karen @ 83:
Got me Karen! :))))))))
Ex-Canuck @ 81:
well charlie i get tired of explaining to squirts like you that rode the gravy train all your life , when i was born an eighth grade education was all that was expected of a kid , high school was considered what a college education is today, kids had to go to work to support thier familly , i dont owe you any explanation of my education , if it offends you so much do what allthe other nose in the air asshats do, skip over my post , nobodys holding a gun to your head!
Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 68:
Except that, by the end of the primaries, neither Clinton nor Obama will have the majority of delegates necessary under the rules to receive the nomination.
It'll all come down to the Party's House of Lords -- the superdelegates.
The rest of the primaries will simply be about convincing the superdelegates who the "electable" candidate is.