FOXNews Sunday: Dean Calls Out GOP For Race-Baiting
By Nicole Belle Saturday May 03, 2008 2:10pm
FOXNews Sunday host Chris Wallace is shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that the GOP tactic of tying local candidates to Rev. Wright via Barack Obama could possibly be considered race-baiting.
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Dean: Chris, the Republicans…for the last 30 years, the Republican (play)book has been to race bait and to use hate and divisiveness. In 2006, the American people said no to that; I think they’re going to say no to that in 2008. It is true that the economy, the war and healthcare are more important to the American people. They are tired of the divisiveness of what the Republicans have done to them. And that’s why the Republicans are in trouble. Deep trouble. Another four years of George Bush is not what we need…
Wallace: Governor, are you suggesting that bringing up Jeremiah Wright is “race-baiting” and hate and divisive?
Dean: Yeah, I am suggesting that kind of stuff. I think when you start bringing up candidates that have nothing to do with the issues…uh when you start bringing up things that have nothing to do with the candidate, nothing to do with the issues, that’s race-baiting. And that’s exactly what it is. Just like Willie Horton was race-baiting so many years ago. I think we’re going to take…we’re going to turn the page on this stuff. I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats on issues, but the biggest issue of all is we don’t use this kind of stuff. We never have used this kind of stuff and we’re not going to start now. America is more important than the Republican party and that’s the lesson the voters are about to teach the Republicans.
Let's see, once again as Bill Moyers points out, what Wright has said is no more outrageous than Hagee, et al., yet Wright's words have been the subject of a non-stop media barrage and GOP smear ads. Hmm....what could be the difference between those conservative Christian leaders and Jeremiah Wright? You really can't imagine why that could be considered race-baiting, Chris?
Of course, when you're on the wrong end of every issue that Americans find important and you've got a record of massive scandal and incompetence, the only vestige you have left is appealing to the basest instincts of the American voter.
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Aren't many ministers, reverends, priests, etc... telling people we're all going to hell if we don't behave every sunday?
This is such a racial issue. The idea that black people may be angry is very threatening to certain people especially because they don't want to think about maybe black people have a reason to be angry, and what it might cost them to make the problem go away.
No , you fucking moron ; he's suggesting that it's done out of kindness and compassion and understanding and a willingness for bipartisanship ...........
What a jerkoff.............
How embarrassing for them. Oh wait-nothing embarrasses a Thug. It's always someone else's fault, in this case Obama's, for being black.
Here is the youtube version for those that the link fails for - like me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHzyEgtI1F4
Hey, Howard. Have you seen the new Dem anti-McCain ads? You don't do this stuff? Have you been awake through any of the Clinton campaign? What friggin planet are you from?
Said this before and i say it again:
The Democrats need to Start HAMMERING the Republicans about Robertson/Hagee/Falwel.
We need to remind them that they are mostly being Racist by only getting on a Black pastor, while the others White Pastors get off with not only saying anything but Doing anything.
(like getting caught with young boys, using crank for sex etc.)
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Crazy Angry White Man ( Hagee ) hates Catholics and Jews, Only likes Jews because they will help bring about the 2nd Coming, then the Jews will be made into Christians or be sent into hell. McCain loves this man and asked to kiss Hagee’s ring. Does the MSM report on this Noooooooo! But Crazy Angry Black Man ( Wright ) gets tons of coverage. What gives?
Racism, make the Black man look as crazy and as angry as you can. Why not make the White man look just as crazy and angry? Where are Hagee’s clips being played 24 / 7 on MSM outlets?
Racism?
I'm glad someone is calling out the "right" and media monopolies for the obvious. It's about time.
Howard Dean:
"And that’s exactly what it is. Just like Willie Horton was race-baiting so many years ago........there’s a lot of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats on issues, but the biggest issue of all is we don’t use this kind of stuff. We never have used this kind of stuff and we’re not going to start now."
It seems that the Willie Horton ads were first used by Al Gore against Dukakis in the Dem primaries in the late 80s. Gore lost. After that Bush père found them very useful
"I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats on issues, but the biggest issue of all is we don’t use this kind of stuff. We never have used this kind of stuff and we’re not going to start now."
Someone let Hillary Clinton know...
DL @ 13:
She said move on but typical of a Obama supporter to play the race card and blame the Clintons.
Have you no shame? Pathetic.
Look, the gop had nothing to run on until wright gave them something.
This is Obama and wright not the Clintons.
getalife @ 14:
If the GOP has nothing to "run on" outside of the Wright non-issue , that tells you all you need to know about how pathetic , shitty and stupid they are..........
OMG.
Dean's going to use the old race-baiting trick every single time Obama gets critiqued for choices Obama has made that reflect his so-called "judgement" he used to brag about.
And the DNC is going to play right along with that silly game, running off all the Reagan Dems they'll need to win in November.
Our party is so screwed.
Chris Wallace just sucks.
I can't decide if Dean is being dishonest or just delusional.
Americans tired of divisiveness and race-baiting? Vermont and Mississippi may as well be different planets
There's a reason these douchebags continue to use these tactics in their campaigns. They work.
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 8:
Thanks Bob! Once again Repubs, seem to be able to get the MSM to cover their stuff quickly and quietly and yet this Wright coverage is incredible. Hammering is what has to happen and I still think that a March on the Media would force SOME attention on unfair coverage. Think of the great signs that could be created! Would they cover it though?
ConcernedCanuck @ 7:
For Faux to ask Dean about the cropping of McCain's statements was totally ludicrous. Faux has perfected the art of cropping statements from all dissenters. With The DNC ad there is only so much they can put in the ad because each second the ad runs, it cost more. For them to whine about the ad is worse than you whining about it.
Wow, i am shock i tell y'all. I always thought that Faux noise was fair and balance, isn't that their logo? this is so surprising to me. (sarcasm).
Mary @ 16:
"Reagan Dems" are the "Blue Dog Dems" who still support Chimpy's imbecilic policies ; they are unnecessary and definitely not needed.
Ronnie Retard is fortunate in a way that Chimpy came along ; he was an absolute horseshit president and a piece of garbage.............
It'll be 20 years before this stuff stops working - maybe. Anyone over the age of 50 in this country was raised during the era of George Wallace and still carries that baggage whether they know it or not.
MCMetal @ 15:
Exactly, and they still lost the reddest House seat in La. .
The gop are not the solution to problems, the gop is the problem.
Mary @ 16:
Screw all the reagan dems,shame on them for supporting a man responsible for the breaking of all unions. There's nothing to be proud of about being a closeted republican/reagan democrate...I rather lose without them than win with them. I got more respect for ignorant republicans than for so called reagan democrates. You reagan democrates GO AWAY. ( I just cannot believe I say that I got respect for repigs)
ConcernedCanuck @ 7:
The anti-McCain ads are race baiting?
My own little sister last week shocked me by tossing out the term "half-breeds" in reference to children of interracial couples in her neighborhood. You can't blame the GOP for this one. Racism is alive and well in America, like it or not. Sure the GOP feeds the monster, but it's already there.
KansasCityFaGt @ 18:
It's closer to dishonesty than delusional, but I don't think either is a fair description.
All the candidates and their supporters invoke "the American people" as their base. What they really mean is that just enough of the American people are on their side to be inspired by the words being said to turn out and give them an election win.
The "Americans are sick of business as usual politics that don't change anything" has worked for Obama so far. It's helped him stay ahead of Clinton. "Sick of race baiting" is just a subset of that narrative. And it can work if we hammer it consistently.
Rico @ 27:
Adding to racial hatred sure as shit does deserve "blame"......................
...are you suggesting that bringing up Jeremiah Wright is “race-baiting” and hate and divisive?
Not suggesting anything. Calling it exactly what it is. Race-baiting.
Ron @ 20:
Don't be a moron. I am not whining about the ad. I am pointing out how idiotic Dean's statement is. Partisan "hacks" such as yourself obviously can't see the light at the end of the tunnel if it's your party doing it, eh? Mr. Dean should maybe do some clip reviews of the Clinton campaign since January, and he'll see how the Dems can win an election by being exactly like the Repukes because it works. Need proof? Bush. Twice. Daddy Bush once. Ronnie Raygun.
Mary @ 16:
Ronald Reagan was the first Republican to win the South. Before that, the South had always been a Democratic stronghold.
The "Reagan Democrats" were the same people that used to be called the "Southern Democrats".
They were the same people that supported that Separate but Equal b@llshit back in the 50s.
They were old back when Reagan got elected. They are all dead.
Hooray for Howard Dean, and John Kerry last week! If democratic comentators and pundits will refuse to "go there", perhaps the MSM will get the message that we've grown up!
ConcernedCanuck @ 31:
I just don't think it's right and I don't think it's going to be as successful as it has been in the past. For you to be critical of Dean when he has been successful with the 50 state strategy makes you sound like James Carville.
Karen @ 28:
Truth is, Americans like any other supposed democratic nation, are always tired of "politics as usual" at election time, until it comes time to vote. Then they vote for as little change as possible. This year, that "little change" comes in the form of a male Republican and a female Republican. Hillary is coming on strong for a reason, and if it goes to convention, she will win. If she doesn't, McCain will win the general. Why? Hillary has done the Republican job for McCain and continues to do it. The only hope you people have is if the next Prez is a one term Prez, and there is some kind of alternative.
Ron @ 34:
Successful? How so? So far it has only been primaries, and they always have a bigger turnout than elections. If you mean, one of the candidates has adopted Dean's policy, well then that isn't working either if you look at all the polls. It's neck and neck between both parties, changing on a daily basis. It should not be anywhere near close at all. It should be a massive blowout. Is it? Nope. All close enough that machines could possibly "error" a win............again. I wouldn't call any of that winning strategies.
Two comments:
1. I disagree with the leftist blogs that says Democrats shouldn't go on Fox News. They should go on Fox News, they just shouldn't pander to them like the Clinton campaign. If they go on FOX, they need to go there on their own terms like Wesley Clark, Russ Feingold, Howard Dean and Bill Clinton in 2006. Once again, I must remind you of the fact that Obama's ENTIRE campaign is about change and embracing your enemies and allies alike to bring about real change to real people. He can't be willing to speak to Iran but not Fox News talking-heads and viewers. I agree with Dean that they should only talk to a guy like Wallace, but stay away from Hannity and O'Reilly.
2. I'm a Obama supporter, but John McCain is playing with fire on this Hagee issue right now. If he was smart, he would put the issue out there right now while everyone is Wright crazy so the media and public will exhaust the issue now so it'll have less of a impact in the Fall. The great thing about the media going Wright crazy now is that people will be exhausted by it in the Fall, and those who will use it to influence their vote will already reflect their positions to the pollsters in the summer once the Dems find a nominee. There was a guy on a local AM station saying back in November that Obama was going to get burned by Wright so he should address it now. Now I'm hearing the same drumbeats about Hagee and McCain is making Obama's fatal mistake. The difference between Obama and McCain is that Wright came up AFTER Obama already established himself so he could weather the storm. Hagee might not get any real traction until after the nominating conventions and I seriously doubt McCain can turn it around in two months on top of ALL of his other problems. Guys like Chris Matthews was wondering why Obama can't get the Catholic vote? Well they're going to run to Obama once they find out about Hagee because he attacked Catholics directly when Wright never did.
Of course Dean has to adopt the rhetorical stance that the American people are tired of race baiting. That's a good way to frame the issue.
Speaking of framing, let's stop with Wright is just as bad as Haggee. No. Outside of some loopy ideas about the origins of AIDS, we certainly have to see Wright's positions, good and not so bad, and many are good, in the context of an African American man of his generation who has faced racism and has struggled against it. Now what cause of social justice has Haggee ever devoted himself to?
ConcernedCanuck @ 36:
I think you might be the moron. Deans strategy for 06 was successful. He is not involved in the campaigning of the Clinton or Obama race for nominee.
There are those that are silly enough to allow race to govern their mind. They are usually one paycheck from disaster, and need something to make them feel good about themselves. It is our job to save them from themselves.
Am I the only one who wonders how that sounded to a typical Fux viewer--their boy Wallace getting called out?
Did the bubbas all go out and shoot some squirrels or slap the ol' lady around?
Any insight here, thugs?
fastfeat @ 41:
They went out and called their local reverend ; to have a gay sex and meth party ............
I have to admit Dean handled that properly, he is 100% correct.
Has Mr. Dean been asleep at the wheel through this whole campaign of yours or is he willing to say anything at this point?
Race and racist claims have been an issue from the very beginning of your campaign. It has been classed as a contest between a woman and an African American, while the media pushed this theme by totally ignoring John Edwards. Remember the debate where Obama was sitting between Hillary and John and Obama stated, the race is between a woman, Hillary, an African American referencing himself and then he turned to John Edwards and said, then there's you John... Or we have the instance of the first Hillary supporter saying republcans might use Obama's drug use as revealed in his own book against him, and he is branded racist with people crying he is implying that all blacks are drug users. Or we have Bill being called racist for saying Obama's stance on Iraq is a fairy tale while the Obama supporters cry racism and how dare he imply that a black person can't run for President. Or we have Bill again called racist for mentionning Jesse Jackson's win while CNN discussed the same fact two weeks earlier and Jackson himself said he was not offended nor was it a racist comment. Or we have Jesse Jackson Jr. talking on TV about calling Hillary's teary moment crocodile tears and why didn't he see her crying for the black victims of Katrina? Or we see black Congresspeople saying they are receiving emails to switch their support to Obama or go uncommitted rather than staying a Hillary supporter or others being threatened that their elective positions may be in jeopardy if they are considered to be stopping a black from becoming president. Or the latest video calling a sometimes Hillary advisor racist for calling people 2 names I will no longer repeat, and just in time to get them incensed before they go to your polls on Tuesday.
Mr. Dean where have you been hiding?...wake up! One campaign has used race from the very beginning along with the media pushing it as a woman against an African American totally ignoring John Edwards until he was finally forced to drop out for lack of coverage of his message. We have the introduction of one by Oprah and deemed the second coming of MLK. The media push that 90% vote or Obama, or the dems cannot win without the black vote and they will stay home if Clinton gets the nomination, or claiming one campaign side is always negative while both are equally to blame and t is okay to appear sexist but not racist.....
Where have you been asleep at the wheel Mr. Dean?..........Race and racist cries against the one candidate have been prevalent from the beginning. We now listen to claims of how superdelegates are supposed to, in the eyes of Obama supporters vote the way their constituents do and it would be terrible to rob Obama in those back smoky filled rooms. However, it appears that the Obama camp has no problems with accepting superdelegate support from States who went to Hillary such as Edwards, Kerry, Richardson, the Governor of Oklahoma etc., but it would be wrong for Hillary or others to say that those people are independent and can vote as they choose to?
Please, Mr. Dean, this race has been nothing but race, used as a tool against the other candidate while the one camp claims they don't want race to be an issue. I would call this hypocritical statement the "politics of old" still being employed to gain the White House while claiming to be the politics of the new.....
Sorry Mr. Dean, but WAKE UP!!!!
fastfeat @ 41:
Fux viewers are all pea brains anyway, so who cares?
I tend to disagree that bringing up Wright is race-baiting.
That's attempting to change the subject on a subject that's a change of subject.
Willie Horton was a criminial, Wright a pastor. One could say the Horton commercials was a way of implying all or most blacks are criminals.
However, if you simplify it to fear of the scary black man, they might have a point.
yeah ! its like i allways say ,dont just get mad get even too! its the in thing to do!
Howard Dean is very much on his game as of late. Hammer anyone that wants to continue the Rev. Wright issue. Dean is correct that as this man has fed his ego he has hurt the American people. I literally turn off any channel that brings up this controversy.
Stay true to what you want in this pivotal election. Do not succumb to these ridiculous tags that they try to pin on Obama.
He is a ONCE in a generation leader that has come to serve the best that America can be.
foreigner @ 44:
jesus ! heres someone who really gets it! not many on here do !
From Barak Obama's book "Dreams of My Father:"
"Black politicians less gifted than Harold (Harold Washington, 1st Black mayor of Chicago) discovered that RACE-BAITING (by them) could make up for a host of limitations. Younger leaders, eager to make a name for themselves, upped the ante, peddling conspiracy theories all over town: the Koreans were funding the Klan, Jewish doctors were injecting black babies with the Aids virus, etc.
It was a shortcut to fame, if not always fortune; like sex or violence onTV, black rage always found a ready market." (p. 145)
Obama HIMSELF admits "Black politicians" use the false race card and race-baiting to win the support of their fellow AA voters, and they do it falsely, and ON PURPOSE.
Think about that, and whether you can actually win in November if Obama's race-baiting has offended moderate Democrats, who may very well stay home instead.
Howard Dean is way off base claiming any questions about Rev. Wright are race-baiting.
Uh, ben, you do realize that Obama PRAISED Ronald Reagan's policies when he went on Fox News, don't you?
Obama LIKES de-regulation. He LIKES partial privatization of Social Security. He voted FOR Cheney's Energy Bill, giving billions of dollars of subsidies and tax cuts to the oil companies.
Obama has PRAISED the policies of Reagan and BushSr, the 2 presidents who worked the hardest to destroy our country's unions.
Don't you watch the debates or pay attention to what Obama actually says he's for?
Good grief, you're poorly informed.
Mary @ 50:
When they try to tie one person to the black church with a black pastor who has a connection to Louis Farakan, it is race baiting.
Howard Dean, you have a couple of race baiters in your own house too, Bill and Hillary Clinton. And I read on a couple of other sites that the Clintons have a nuclear option planned for stealing the nomination by forcing MI and FL to be seated.
Not really, Ron.
They're questioning Obama's JUDGEMENT in staying associated with Wright for 20 years, donating $22,000 to his congregation in 2006, and exposing his own daughters to a pastor who "humps" the podium , screaming "Clintons RODE us DIRTY" while children are in the congregation.
Would YOU expose your daughters to a pastor who humps the podium during a sermon?
If your answer is yes, then I GET to question your judgement.
It's not about race. It's about JUDGEMENT, which is what Obama said was his very best quality.
Apparently, it's not.
The Wright issue is race-baiting from Republicans, all right. The only other thing needed is the pointy hood and white sheets...
Mary @ 54:
....That's all the good Rev. did? Try coming to an evangelical service sometime, sweetheart, we can top that easy...
nochickenhawk @ 53:
There are African American voters in Florida and Michigan complaining to Howard Dean about being disenfranchised, and calling HIM a racist.
So I guess EVERYBODY is a racist this year, eh?
General_Rennenkampf @ 56:
Righty,O, General.
You got videos all over YouTube of any evangelical preachers humping the podium screaming DID US DIRTY?
Rather histrionic, don't you think?
Mary @ 54:
Would you know anything about Wright if the right wing tool, Faux, hadn't decided to make it an issue as a black church thing? I think not and I don't consider his motions as humping. You are part of it if you keep making it an issue sheeple.
I must correct a goof I made in my long rant earlier when I said Edwards had supported Obama when I meant to write Kennedy.
Also one other thing and I won't write about it because in this senior Sunday moment I can't remember all the details off the top of my head at the moment, but weren't either some voters in Pennsylvannia or some in that race where the exit polling was so skewed from the results blamed for perhaps being bigots or racists by saying that they did vote Obama when perhaps they didn't and that is why the polls were so far off the final results? I just remember sitting at the time watching TV and thinking if I was a white voter just being accused of something like that I would be furious.
Excuse me, Ron, Rev. Wright was selling the videos of those sermons to anybody who wanted them, in order to "worship" the $$$$$ of Mammon.
He was PROUD of those sermons, and active all over the United States in multiple black churches preaching the same.
He's STILL proud of those sermons, and said so at the NAACP meeting and on the Bill Moyers show, knowing full well the entire press corps was taping him.
Fox News is not responsible for the things Rev. Wright said about Obama being "just a politician."
Blaming Fox News is a childish copout, dear.
yeah, well said.
nochickenhawk @ 53:
Yes, coming from an anonymous source given to the head political writer at The Huffington Post which can't write enough bad press for Hillary as it is.
nochickenhawk @ 53:
That's not really stealing the nomination, because it's a long-shot that they could get them seated, and there's no guarantee how the delegates will vote, or that part of the arrangement might be splitting the delegates between the candidates, or even that the nomination will even come to a convention.
Mary @ 61:
What does that have to do with Obama? Do you know if Obama bought the dvds. You are continuing to do the job Faux has laid out for you. You are being racist by your insistance to comment about it. Admit it, you are sheeple.
Sheeple is an idiotic phrase that implies that a commenter can't be certain his/her point will be otherwise taken seriously.
NOt gonna work, Ron. Calling anyone who doesn't play to your own exact story line a "racist" is truly pathetic.
I don't even watch Fox News.
Time for you to get a grip, darlin.
It appears that "sheeple" come in all colors, eh?
Of course someone ending a comment with dear is patronizing and like they're talking down to a dumb child.
foreigner @ 60:
I'm sure you are forgiven for your senior moment. Most of us have them. But you do make a good point. Polls of white voters are meaningless and should be disregarded in there entirety. Close races like these (Indiana and North Carolina) trend toward Hillary simpy because in the privacy of the voting booth, white will always be superior to black. But what do I know? I'm just your average, working class white guy who supports Obama.
On the other hand, Rico, "in the privacy of the voter's booth," Americans choose to vote for who they think is the most QUALIFIED and EXPERIENCED, and it has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin.
There are many African American voters who publicly say they're for Obama, in their own social circles, but in the privacy of the voting booth, are voting for Clinton as more qualified, and who don't believe for one second that either Clinton is a racist.
In fact, in Pennsylvania, 40% of the Republican crossover vote was Republican WOMEN voting for Clinton.
So, just because YOU think people do things for racist reasons, doesn't make it so.
If you want to clear insight the morality of Republicans, it's how they have seized with joy on Obama's off the cuff remark (which I'm sure he wishes he hand't made) that "Wright"s a legitimate political issue", to justify and defend themselves against what they always do: smear, take the low road and play the race card. Dean in right. God, Republicans really are evil in so many ways. And that makes them, in my eyes, anti-American.
foreigner @ 63:
It's on Raw Story as well. She deserves every bit of bad press from HuffPo and AmBlog to make up for the free ride she gets from CNN, FOX, ABC, Taylor Marsh, TalkLeft, MyDD. . .
#70 - Do you have evidence you can present of large number of African American voters who are
voting for Hillary, for any reason? As for crossover voting, it's nearly impossible to determine why Republican women or men are doing so.