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By Logan Murphy Monday Jun 09, 2008 10:30pm
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Only on Fox & Friends. This morning they did a segment on the English language and that there are a lot of words that many people find difficult to spell correctly. I stopped on monkey. I'm including video to complement the comedic irony.
Steve Doocy says that another word many find difficult to spell is the word soldier, because the "i" throws people off. The former beauty queen then pipes up and says -- "Well, the D. There's no D in it." She follows that up by asking if they even make "hardcore" dictionaries anymore. Be sure to hang on (if you can make it) for the finale as Doocy decries:
"So many people are trying to dumb down America and the world! Just leave it the way it is! Study your books, people!"
Teh stupid...it hurts.... This is just screaming for a "Write Your Own Caption"
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i didn't see this on c&l, so i thought i'd share it...
obama speaks to campaign staff @ chicago hq after securing democratic nomination
Have a laugh, the primary is finally over.
Welcome to the dumbing-down of America.
...and the hits just keep coming, from the Fox Comedy Channel (formerly Fox News)...
So Republicans are too damn dumb to spell. We know this from our resident trolls. What else is new? So much for the English Only crowd. Next time you hear a Conservative bitching about Ebonics, you can bring this little gem up.
The Douche strikes again
It's hard to decide who is more stupid, Doocy or Kilmeade. E.D. Hill was right in there on the stupid meter as well, and now she's gone.
These people are so annoying.
Wait a minute, that's not how you spell "douchey".
She absolutely BECOMES her 'blondness'!....And never neglect the fact that olks have been speakin' English for "thousands" of years....UhHuh!
the most interesting name i saw floated today for obama's vp was bill nelson, the senior senator from florida.
centrist democratic, former astronaut, 75% favorable rating from naral, vocal opponent of florida off-shore oil drilling, demolished katherine harris in 2006.
i also like the idea of taking the fight directly to mccain's old retiree base.
*democrat
Lern to spell and talk english reel good like us here on Foxx Newz, OK, Amurica? Especially you damn foreignurs.
Doocy:
Douche iz to herd to spel. Werds shud onlee haf wun bowel.
Double plus ridiculous
Did he really say at the end that people have been speaking English for thousands of years?
It hurts the brain to listen to these morons.
"S O L
D-IE R." Soler.This is just too funny. Humbling, though, that I've been spelling "soldier" wrong all this time, no "D" and all.
I compliment you on your comedic timing, Logan, and I know that you'll appreciate the irony of your using the wrong "complement" in expressing your appreciation of the comedic irony. :-)
Want to see my cat?
http://s80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/aprilette/?action=view¤t=10...
JFC, these people are so feeble, they make rocks seem like scholars. Have they ever watched tapes of their own shows?
The beauty of English is in its embrace of so many words, like a quilt of culture stitched in time... the day that the truth of the New Year's chant Auld Lang Syne is revealed will be a day that the English language reclaims its Celtic connection to fertility and the earth can begin to heal, perhaps.
ove coarse thees peepl kant spel thay werk for Fox Noos.
Note how she admits she's too stupid to use a spellchecker. Also, does she think soldier is spelled 'soljier' (she says there's no D in soldier). Way to go supporting our troops.
Fleece @ 15:
Butt Douchee tawks aut uv da saim bowel he poups aut uv.
...as long as we're on the subject, at the end of the first paragraph, the word is "complement," not "compliment."
I’m including video to compliment the comedic irony.
Um, well, sorry, but the proper spelling here would be "complement." Just saying...
douchebag? is dat hym?
Stranded @ 27:
The correct spelling is "ninja'd" :)
Warren beat me to it. Thanks, Warren.
Forget that douchebag whats new?
these people would fail a no-child-left-behind curriculum.
L.A. Confidential @ 31:
same old shit, only piled higher and deeper.
Benjamin Franklin was an avid proponent of reforming the English language and making spelling more phonetic.
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/franklin.htm
So, I guess this piece from Fox only shows that they hate the founding fathers and in turn HATE AMERICA...
The irony it so sweet.
I lost 50 IQ points listening to these simpletons.
Truthseeker @ 358:
dubaya.
tyree @ 355:
I try not to jump on someone's spelling and punctuation skills as an indicator of their intelligence. I can't type (hunt-and peck only), so I have a little more time to try to get it right. Though I could critique others' spellings here, I figure most of them make up for the occasional error in enthusiasm and volume.
Tyree, I view you as an institution here. While I don't always agree with your posts, I never have trouble reading them, spelling errors or not.
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Paul @ 312:
Thank yew, that wez brilyant! :)
Is anyone listening to McSame on the today show right now.
His stance on fuels make him sound like a Democrat. Spinningggggggg. oh my head.
+ Matt Lauer is a tool.
mudshark @ 360:
Shouldn't that be dubya
Or Dubai?
Wow....people are fucking idiots....raising fucking idiot children...
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 365:
Not me. I am monogamous. :)
Well at least we've cleared up one mystery...and the answer is 'NO':
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George Bush: Florence, SC, 1/11/00
ysbaddaden @ 364:
Paragway.
Since when did Fox become so elitist.. telling people to spell correctly and all..
Re: The fox clip above
Dude on the right says:
'English has been around for thousands of years...'
That was funny :)
No fux "newscaster" left behind - unfortunately, our fux "newscasters" isn't learning...
nonny mouse @ 282:
Wow, what a surprise..... Nonny "bragging" about her C.V. Never would have saw that coming
It should be noted that Theodore Roosevelt took up changing the English language as a serious cause. He too was dismayed that the spelling sometimes contradicts the phonetic nature of certain words. He eventually relented and took up other business, but it's an amusing part of his personal history. The people at Fox shouldn't be expected to acknowledge this historical aspect of their subject when they bemoan "people today," because, of course, they probably can't be expected to read books.
jay walker @ 370:
6000 to be precise. Everyone knows Adam and Eve spoke English.
She's so stupid, it makes my brain hurt. Make it stop, please make it stop!
I'm number #370 today -WOWIE!! Throwing even a whifff of Fox out there is getting to be like blood is to a shark!
MMMMMM, yummmmy! :D
But I'm still out more Red meat after I just saw this headline in that other Right wing rag, the WSJ"
How Prime Minister Maliki Pacified Iraq
By KIMBERLY KAGAN and FREDERICK W. KAGAN
June 10, 2008; Page A17
"America is very close to succeeding in Iraq. The "near-strategic defeat" of al Qaeda in Iraq described by CIA Director Michael Hayden last month in the Washington Post has been followed by the victory of the Iraqi government's security forces over illegal Shiite militias, including Iranian-backed Special Groups. The enemies of Iraq and America now cling desperately to their last bastions, while the political process builds momentum."
IRAQ IS "PACIFIED" THEY NOW SAY?? The smell of victory as reported by the Kagans and Lieberman and MCCain completely defy the truth when you read every other paper outside of the Bush/war profiteer controlled US press:
IRAQ - REPORTED NEWS -Just in the last week
1. Police recruits killed in Iraq
An explosion has killed at least four Iraqi police recruits and wounded 23 others in Baghdad, police say.
The recruits had assembled at a police recruitment centre on Sunday on Muthanna airport street in western Baghdad when they were struck by an improvised explosive device(IED).
2. In a separate incident, three people were killed in a mortar attack inside Baghdad's fortified Green Zone, an Iraqi interior ministry official said.
The shells apparently targeted the Iraqi defence ministry but they hit one of the entrances to the Green Zone, the official said.
3. Last week, a Filipino man was killed and two female compatriots were injured in another mortar attack on the Green Zone.
4. 2 more US soldiers killed, when one bomb exploded near a small patrol base close to executed president Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit on Sunday, the military said, and the second soldier died when his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb in east Baghdad at 9:45 am (0645 GMT) on Saturday, it added. =4,093
5. In another attack on Sunday, a mortar hit the Iraqi ministry of planning office, wounding seven civilians.
The bombs, in fact are now routinely focused on and are getting closer to making bigger hits inside the Green Zone- something unheard of before.
there is a large group of people that call themselves "the society for simplified spelling" http://www.spellingsociety.org/
They make a lot of good points. One interesting one is that typesetters added letters to words to make more money. These changes became part of the language when "Dr. Johnson stamped his authority on English spelling with his famous dictionary. In his day many words were still spelt differently by different writers. He chose his preferred versions, or linked different meanings to different spellings, e.g. 'there - their', paying very little heed to pronunciation. Many of our worst problems are due to him. His work is now very much due for a revue."
rats. i can't believe that you are making me defend *gasp* steve doocey and the brown haired guy who isn't steve doocey (tbhgwisd.) they weren't advocating it, they seemed shocked that someone would suggest that people can't learn to spell 'monkey.' - yeah, they aren't that bright themselves and have a poor concept of the expanse of time (tbhgwisd probably thinks the declaration of independence was written a thousand years ago, too) but they didn't "do a segment on the English language and that there are a lot of words that many people find difficult to spell correctly." - they did a segment on a teacher who claims this.
"I stopped on monkey" - maybe you should have watched. even the blond chick who is not e.d. hill (tbcwinedh) questioned what was so hard about monkey.
otoh, tbcwinedh was/is embarrassing. embarrassing - look that up in your funk and wagnall's.
Trust FOX News to trivialize a long standing problem. Many many scholars how study languages have long rated English as one of the two most difficult languages to learn (Chinese being the other one). Because English has been borrowing words from other languages the rules for spelling in English have a great many exceptions. For many years now scholars have been trying to come up with a way to solve this problem and have yet to find one. English spelling is difficult, live with it. What is needed is better ways of teaching English that acknowledges these difficulties.
In closing I leave you with these two following thoughts....
"Some languages borrow from other languages. English follows them down dark allies, knocks the over there heads and goes through there pockets for loose syntax."
Spell the following sentence correctly
"There are three tos in the English Language."
Lets hear it for FOX News once more giving air time to a conundrum while ignoring real problems.
ysbaddaden @ 364:
It's DUHbya.
Spell the following sentence correctly
“There are three tos in the English Language.”
"There are three words in the English Language pronounced 'too.'"
trick question, right?
Jean2k @ 19:
Probably getting to this waaaay too late, but her point was that there IS a "D" in the spelling, but no "D" in the pronunciation. It's a "J" sound...or is that a soft "G"? Anyway, I think I'll go take a shower now because I just defended a Fox blonde.
fastfeat @ 374:
HA! Good one, lmmfao!!!!
xoites defends Constitution @ 366:
Oh yeah?! I'm magnanimous!
This is so stupid, Faux News is the absolute bottom feeders in news. If you can call this news.
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 384:
And McW is monontonous.
Christopher @ 17:
Yes, English can be a difficult language. It is known as the language that never met a word it didn't like.
But folks, it is also easier than some languages due the fact that it doesn't assign "sexes" to the nouns. There is no masculine or feminine (or neutral in German) sex to each noun. We don't have to change the ending of adjectives to correspond with the sex of the noun it is describing. We don't have to memorize each noun's sex. It isn't der mann, die frau, or das haus - it is the man, the woman, the house.
Also, long ago, English gave up all but one version of the "you". We don't have to decide between formal, familiar, formal plural, or familiar plural.
I have to give it to the pundits on this clip. Basically, they are saying "quit with the complaining and learn the language."
But the blond was hilarious beyond words.
But it's TRUE!
My daughter, a native speaker of English, happened to learn to read and write in Spanish. (In Spanish, the very idea of a Spelling Bee for people older than five is laughable) She quite sensibly refused for the next two years to put up with the anti-intuitive written representation with which we shackle ourselves. Only Harry Potter finally pulled her kicking and screaming into the 16th century. Sure - the grammar and vocabulary are only a little more treacherous than other languages, but the spelling is number one!
Dr. Acula @ 386:
He's also malodorous!
that Doocey guy has the weirdest smirk on his face...its like he's permanently sitting on the toilet trying real hard. Nice perma-grin idiot!!!
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 389:
And mendacious.
You want to really blow their minds?
Explain to them how language is a paradigm for evolution.
AM TEH INGLESH TU HARED?
FOX, please do something about the color spectrum as well.
Do we really need chartreuse?
Heard about this on Stephanine Miller today.
For those you don't want to forget after you've been raptured:
http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com/
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 33:
No doubt about it.
"People have been speaking English for thousands of years!"
Ooo-kay...I guess you don't need to have your facts straight on that network or a brain to be a host....
"Pomper Room" fer adults- 'tis! Looky- she got roots!!
Senate GOP blocks windfall taxes on Big Oil
http://tinyurl.com/48xofy
L.A. Confidential @ 20:
Is your cat wearing a fucking t-shirt?
BTW, here's my dog
Oops! <> Soory- been hittin the bottle
Hilarious. Fox does a good job dumbing down Amarika all by itself. People have been speaking English for thousands of years, do they even sell "hardcore" dictionaries anymore...LOL.
English can be a difficult language for some as a 2nd or 3rd langauge ......... some users of the Americon language, which is not English, it seems is/are still stupid and moronic ........
I was educated in various decent schools in England and this makes me physically wince ........ please someone cull this collection of useless bile dribbling muppets !
miss_kitty @ 40:
LOL no she got a summer haircut.
Actually a thousand years ago English spelling was quite easy, and we had the two extra ð and þ letters. Then the Normans came in and ruined it all. Oh well.
But that's all right. I'm opposed to spelling reform because that would mean having to choose a single accent of all the world's English accents to be the One And Only True English Pronunciation, and nobody would be happy with that. Even within a single country nobody pronounces things exactly the same way.
"Romper Room" ..... time out fer pet goats, me'thinks
This is why there is nothing wrong with the English language:
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings
The free bird leaps
on the back of the win
and floats downstream
till the current ends
and dips his wings
in the orange sun rays
and dares to claim the sky.
But a bird that stalks
down his narrow cage
can seldom see through
his bars of rage
his wings are clipped and
his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.
The caged bird sings
with fearful trill
of the things unknown
but longed for still
and is tune is heard
on the distant hillfor the caged bird
sings of freedom
The free bird thinks of another breeze
an the trade winds soft through the sighing trees
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn-bright lawn
and he names the sky his own.
But a caged bird stands on the grave of dreams
his shadow shouts on a nightmare scream
his wings are clipped and his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing
The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.
Maya Angelou
"Well blow me down!
We're's me corn-cob pipe?"
Old Billy Hussein @ 392:
They'll just brag they have more than two dimes to rub together.
Dr. Acula @ 380:
There are sites claiming boosh has an IQ of 125, which makes it around mine.
But my shrinks tell me there are other parts I have that are off their charts and can't be measured.
Supposedly I'm almost entirely right-brained in my thinking.
The reason English is so treacherous for people, who are learning it, is because of how it developed. The English language has grown, over fifteen hundred years, by absorbing words, adaptations of words and corruptions of words from many other languages. These inductees are words whose spelling and pronunciation were derived from alternate systems, and exist in English as exceptions to English spelling, pronunciation, and grammatical rules.
This is one reason why English has become the lingua franca of international business and international law.
Of course, cretins whose vocabularies have not developed above a few thousand words will never value the complexity and richness of the English language as a communications tool.
Lollimom @ 21:
That would require either being able to spell 'play' or understanding that the flattened out D symbol has to be pressed to watch.
I'm more worried about a president who warns us about Iran's nuclear program but can't pronounce the word "nuclear." Bush also asked us if our childrens is learning, and he doesn't know the difference between "dissemble" and "disassemble."
Fox doesn't have much to say about Bush's gaffes, however.
This is just screaming for a “Write Your Own Caption”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm5-O6DZMKo
(Listen to LOUD.)
No wonder FOX tried to hide that movie Idiocracy, it was hitting to close to home for them.
Mike Judge must be laughing his ass off
Christopher @ 17:
yeah he did. Painful.
What a bunch of idiots.
Go to Anoka, MN, where Gretchen Carlson grows up. Her parent, if the don't still, used to own a car lot called Main Motors on Main St. I will say that Anoka High School does not teach the complete lack of comprehension that Gretchen seems to have. I am somewhat embarrassed to say that I am from the same town as her. Oh, her parent may still own their home on the Mississippi. Do you think she can spell that?
fastfeat @ 361:
thnx fastfeet guess ive just been burnt to many times anyway im starting to like what i hear obama saying , so hes got my vote!
Replace English courses with "Intelligent Design".
And pray..............
tyree @ 406:
Excellent news Tyree! Welcome aboard!
Old Billy Hussein @ 391:
And malicious!
Spell "morons".
Bonkers @ 410:
M O R A N?