Gay-Bashing Alabama A.G. Caught Having Gay Sex?

Wonkette:

This may come as a shock, but a prominent anti-homosexual Republican attorney general has apparently been caught having homosexual sex intercourse with his homosexual gay male assistant. Bonus: The dude’s wife caught him, in their bed. This is the rumor that the AG’s office has officially denied, so now of course everybody is spilling the sordid details.

AG in question is Troy King, who, of course, is only interested in outlawing homosexuality and sex toys. His gay lover is either a college “buddy,” or a very young youngster and “Homecoming King” from Troy University. What are the odds of a dude named Troy King getting caught in bed with a Homecoming King from Troy University? This seems like a wacky sitcom plot, on a gay porn channel. (Is this what that Will & Grace was about?) Read on...

King, (pictured above, seated on the left) the State Chairman of John McCain's Alabama campaign, joined a number of Attorneys General who supported the GOP presidential candidate this past spring and the following is a quote from King on John McCain's campaign website:

"Alabama is a state where actions definitely speak louder than words," said King. "More than just talk, John McCain's strong record of support for state rights, and his devotion to the conservative principles of protecting life and the institution of marriage make him the right leader for Alabama."

Yes, Mr. King, actions certainly do speak louder than words. I wish I could I could take credit for writing something this hilarious, but I can't. It appears King has made a few enemies during his tenure in Alabama as well.

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Typical.
First.

So King is a queen?

I'm shocked, I tell you. I am simply beside myself. This can't be... Republicans aren't gay (sarc off)

He can solve his problem by switching parties and becoming a Democrat. That way he won't need to hide in bathroom stalls anymore.

Dale @ 2:

So King is a queen?

no a ..........HYPOCRITE

constituent @ 4:

Dale @ 2:

So King is a queen?

no a ..........HYPOCRITE

Yes, yes of course.

Dale @ 5:

constituent @ 4:

Dale @ 2:

So King is a queen?

no a ..........HYPOCRITE

Yes, yes of course.

i got alittle serious your entry was funny

I now understand why Republicans are afraid that homosexual sex will destroy marriages. It does, if you are a Republican and are gay and need to have a "wife" just for appearance sake. Funny, Democrats don't have that problem.

At this point it's probably easier to assume ALL anti-gay Republicans are 'teh ghey', until they prove otherwise.
NTTAWWT.

Crazy. You couldn't make this shit up.

Not that there's any point in making this shit up. This shit has already happened so many times.

Another reptile hypocrite ditches his poor wife for, well, you said it.

That is the worst when you lose your guy to another guy. The creep. He could have signed over the estate first because she will nail his hide to the court house wall.

Sorry? What part of this item may come as a shock again?

By the way he's sitting it looks like he has a wide stance. Is that the normal way closeted gay Republicans sit?

This who thing sounds to much like a sit com for me to believe it just yet.

+What are the chances of another highr anking uber conservative being outed so soon after Larry Craig?

Whee!

As a Ben Tre Republican, I am simply thrilled whenever one of these authoritarian right wing gay bashers gets caught with their hands in the pickle jar.

Republicans are a gift that keeps giving. What is about the summer months that brings out the best in them? Larry Craig last August and now this fellow? Foley the year before. If this story is true, it's just another nail in the Republicans coffin.

OK, hold the phone.
Is there a source for this story other than left-wing or other political blogs?
I mean it seems what we have here is blog posts linking to other blog posts linking to accounts of 'rumors circulating' about a wife allegedly catching her husband 'en flagrante' or whatever that saying is.
Not that I care, or that question C&L's integrity, but it would be best if this weren't all over the blogosphere without any real corroboration.

Repubs are against gay marriage because it cuts into their cruising base.

Thanks for the linky love!! Be sure to check out the parody songs linked in that post. Be ready to HOWL!!

BobbyFlav @ 16:

it would be best if this weren't all over the blogosphere without any real corroboration.

Since when is using rumor and innuendo to destroy evil politicians verboten?

Links ahoy!

Wait a minute! I thought gay sex was a choice made by a small number of mentally ill liberals? A few weeks at born again Jesus boot camp and he will be good as new. Who is going to stand next to him and look nauseated and totally pissed like the other wives do?

I really am, honestly, waiting for the first one of these guys to get caught doing the gay, and blaming it on liberals and the 'infestation' of gay culture into our society.

'Gee, I really didn't want to do it... but, I couldn't help myself.. It's EVERYWHERE and I wanted to try it!!!'

Is it ok to say "Homocoming King"? Because I think it's funny.

Someone go tell Bruno to schedule and interview with this guy.

Man. The number of closeted homosexuals that are in the GOP is astounding. As far as I'm concerned they are all closeted by their repressed nature. God this country is hellish.

Ho Hum - another anti-gay republican having gay sex with his anti-gay republican lover and getting caught by the wife. Will it never end?????

Oh Christ...thats rich...

I love it, keep'e, coming

chalk up another one for the contrarian(s)

The reich-wing party....the gift that keeps giving

Dale @ 2:

So King is a queen?

I rember a tv series when I was young called "Sky King".
Now they have renamed it "Sky Queen?"

Can we just admit now the pathological basis of homophobia and opposition to women's reproductive rights? If people weren't so frightened of something in themselves...

The name "Troy King" is practically a parody of a "gay name".

It's not that bad, this is Alabama. The guy is his cousin. I live here, am I proud - not..........

What's that they say about dead girls or live boys?

Imagine that, a closetted homosexual diligently working with the new Republican party to destroy everything for which this country stands!

anybody check Alberto Gonzalez' beard?

The "down low" is alive and well within the Republican Party and the moniker GOPigs is quite fitting. They disgust me.

Does this guy have children? What kind of family values is he adhering to?

Alice X (Chomsky Nader) @ 10:

Another reptile hypocrite ditches his poor wife for, well, you said it.

That is the worst when you lose your guy to another guy. The creep. He could have signed over the estate first because she will nail his hide to the court house wall.

Now watch Repubs come out and use the NJ Gov. excuse about being secretly gay etc. The big difference between former NJ gov. is that he was never a hypocrite. He didn't preach against and prosecute gays like this AG in Alabama (Gods country)

BobbyFlav @ 16:

OK, hold the phone.
Is there a source for this story other than left-wing or other political blogs?
I mean it seems what we have here is blog posts linking to other blog posts linking to accounts of 'rumors circulating' about a wife allegedly catching her husband 'en flagrante' or whatever that saying is.
Not that I care, or that question C&L's integrity, but it would be best if this weren't all over the blogosphere without any real corroboration.

The Montgomery newspaper is sitting on the story until they get a government confirmation. However, there was a source that saw him (you'll love this) at a YMCA "making out" with a dude.

And King is catching all this hell for being so completely evil.

Cue concern troll calling all of you anti-gay in 5... 4... 3...

Poor, twisted, self-loathing individual. Too bad he's attacked so many innocent people.

Oil at record highs and the stock market tanking, this is just the distraction we need.

Maybe Siegelman got the stay in the grey bar hotel because he wouldn't "play ball," so to speak.

Old Billy Hussein @ 39:

Cue concern troll calling all of you anti-gay in 5... 4... 3...

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 43:

The Alabama AG also has a penchant for revenge:

Alabama US Attorney denies any involvement in university editor's termination

hell hath no fury like a log cabin republican scorned!

maybe King's scandal is the real reason Karl Rove had to get out of the country for a few days.

This guy is going to be a whining bitter homosexual.

WOW!, Republicans really do suck!

alzuben @ 34:

Imagine that, a closetted homosexual diligently working with the new Republican party to destroy everything for which this country stands!

anybody check Alberto Gonzalez' beard?

TAGG @ 33:

That's my cue....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/top-ten-reasons-your-son-may-be-gay.html

It's all part and parcel of the whole self-loathing thing. Basically the whole premis of the book "Great American Hypocrites." Rabid war cheerleaders are in a deep emotional crisis of self denial over their own record of ducking the Vietnam (or Iraq) war, and rabid anti-gay activists are in a deep panic of self-denial over their own closeted homosexual urges.

(But no,I don't think even openly gay men are in a hurry to check out Gonzo's beard, thank you very much.)

alzuben @ 44:

Old Billy Hussein @ 39:

Cue concern troll calling all of you anti-gay in 5... 4... 3...

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

WTF? Do you not recognize sarcasm, or just don't know the definition of "concern troll"? Or please just tell me you were being sarcastic too. My faith in my fellow humans isn't exactly the greatest this week...

It's my understanding that Spider-Man can make you gay.

Nothing wrong with being gay.
Fly your freak-flag, I say
Getting dirty, getting down
sinking pink into brown
Nothing wrong with being queer
Just watch you politics, my dear
Okay into be into, not full of, shit
Because then you're a low-life rethug HYPOCRITE!

alzuben @ 45:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 43:

The Alabama AG also has a penchant for revenge:

Alabama US Attorney denies any involvement in university editor's termination

hell hath no fury like a log cabin republican scorned!

maybe King's scandal is the real reason Karl Rove had to get out of the country for a few days.

I haven't heard where he went.

Either bigots and hypocrites are uncontrollably drawn to the republican party or democrats are more skillful at not getting caught.

Dr. Larry @ 51
sweet! so true, doctor.

Pericles @ 48:

alzuben @ 34:

Imagine that, a closetted homosexual diligently working with the new Republican party to destroy everything for which this country stands!

anybody check Alberto Gonzalez' beard?

TAGG @ 33:

That's my cue....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/top-ten-reasons-your-son-may-be-gay.html

It's all part and parcel of the whole self-loathing thing. Basically the whole premis of the book "Great American Hypocrites." Rabid war cheerleaders are in a deep emotional crisis of self denial over their own record of ducking the Vietnam (or Iraq) war, and rabid anti-gay activists are in a deep panic of self-denial over their own closeted homosexual urges.

(But no,I don't think even openly gay men are in a hurry to check out Gonzo's beard, thank you very much.)

....and the singularly most conspicuously absent word from that list......"Christianity".

but I don't know if it is self-loathing that drives them as much to their hypocrisy as self-indulgence. Bush is a fine symbol for the "Generation that never grew up".....and if you want to look at why they are arrested adolescents in their 50s...look no farther than the 'greatest' generation that created the most abominable generation of children since Moses sacked Jericho.

When it was Bushie and pals time to go to war, they were all drug-sniffing anti-war liberals who decried the hypocrisy of fighting for rubber in Vietnam.....now of course....that they are parents themselves, they see things entirely differently....and the only solution they have found is to spit on the Constitution.

cubiclegrrl @ 49:

alzuben @ 44:

Old Billy Hussein @ 39:

Cue concern troll calling all of you anti-gay in 5... 4... 3...

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

WTF? Do you not recognize sarcasm, or just don't know the definition of "concern troll"? Or please just tell me you were being sarcastic too. My faith in my fellow humans isn't exactly the greatest this week...

no, I neither recognize the subtlety of your sarcasm...nor do I surf urbandictionary.com daily....thus, I also am oblivous to your ultra-chic coinage "concern troll".

If you are still concerned about your faith in your fellow humans....perhaps you should consider your message is not clear.

I just can't imagine the emotions the wife went through...you know when she first walked in she thought it was a woman. does she feel better or worse when it turns out to be a guy?

Hypocrite Republican...but i repeat myself

ricchase @ 53:

Either bigots and hypocrites are uncontrollably drawn to the republican party or democrats are more skillful at not getting caught.

I don't know what this word means...."uncontrollably".

BobbyFlav @ 16:

OK, hold the phone.
Is there a source for this story other than left-wing or other political blogs?
I mean it seems what we have here is blog posts linking to other blog posts linking to accounts of 'rumors circulating' about a wife allegedly catching her husband 'en flagrante' or whatever that saying is.
Not that I care, or that question C&L's integrity, but it would be best if this weren't all over the blogosphere without any real corroboration.

Exactly. Sounds rather suspicious. I'm waiting for the video proof, myself.

alzuben @ 56:

cubiclegrrl @ 49:

alzuben @ 44:

Old Billy Hussein @ 39:

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

WTF? Do you not recognize sarcasm, or just don't know the definition of "concern troll"? Or please just tell me you were being sarcastic too. My faith in my fellow humans isn't exactly the greatest this week...

no, I neither recognize the subtlety of your sarcasm...nor do I surf urbandictionary.com daily....thus, I also am oblivous to your ultra-chic coinage "concern troll".

If you are still concerned about your faith in your fellow humans....perhaps you should consider your message is not clear.

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

Patrick @ 57:

I just can't imagine the emotions the wife went through...you know when she first walked in she thought it was a woman. does she feel better or worse when it turns out to be a guy?

Hypocrite Republican...but i repeat myself

I imagine her first thougts were...."So that is why he worked so hard to ban vibrators in Alabama."

Patrick @ 57:

I just can't imagine the emotions the wife went through...you know when she first walked in she thought it was a woman. does she feel better or worse when it turns out to be a guy?

Hypocrite Republican...but i repeat myself

Serves her right for marrying a Republican.

Dear John McCain,

Keep him, he's yours!

Inky Dinky doo @ 63:

Dear John McCain,

Keep him, he's yours!

McGramps had him penciled as the next U.S. Attorney General.

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:

cubiclegrrl @ 49:

alzuben @ 44:

WTF? Do you not recognize sarcasm, or just don't know the definition of "concern troll"? Or please just tell me you were being sarcastic too. My faith in my fellow humans isn't exactly the greatest this week...

no, I neither recognize the subtlety of your sarcasm...nor do I surf urbandictionary.com daily....thus, I also am oblivous to your ultra-chic coinage "concern troll".

If you are still concerned about your faith in your fellow humans....perhaps you should consider your message is not clear.

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

alzuben @ 65:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:

cubiclegrrl @ 49:

Second opinion. You are a little (read a lot) too paranoid.
no, I neither recognize the subtlety of your sarcasm...nor do I surf urbandictionary.com daily....thus, I also am oblivous to your ultra-chic coinage "concern troll".

If you are still concerned about your faith in your fellow humans....perhaps you should consider your message is not clear.

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 66:

alzuben @ 65:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:
Second opinion. You are a little (read a lot) too paranoid.
Fixed

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 68:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 66:

alzuben @ 65:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Fuck it.

alzuben @ 66:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:

cubiclegrrl @ 49:

no, I neither recognize the subtlety of your sarcasm...nor do I surf urbandictionary.com daily....thus, I also am oblivous to your ultra-chic coinage "concern troll".

If you are still concerned about your faith in your fellow humans....perhaps you should consider your message is not clear.

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Stop your whining. You sound bitter.

One picture is worth a thousand words. The boy has major "gayface."

No doubt his ban on sex toys was a major boon to the cucumber and zuchini farmers of Alabama, even if it left his poor wife frustrated.

busy hands are happy hands...hands that can't go wrong!

He wants to punish people for what he likes to engage in while his wife is out! Nice!

"Toy" King. Heh-heh! "Toy" University Homecoming King.

A friend who worked in the emergency room had a woman come in with a sprouting sweet potato trapped inside her. Foliage. And plenty of men with poorly selected objects in them, with improbable stories of how they fell on them.

#73 My point is they would do better with the proper sex toys Troy King would see outlawed.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 67:

alzuben @ 65:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

too paranoid? :D is that your professional opinion? are you using Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Psychology? 8 )

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 70:

alzuben @ 66:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

alzuben @ 56:

Lighten up and just admit you were wrong. The OP was sarcastic, most of us caught it, but that sarcasm is laced in reality.

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Stop your whining. You sound bitter.

wow, you regularly bathe in gasoline don't you?

why don't you pour yourself another vodka whatever and go watch the sun set.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 65:

Inky Dinky doo @ 63:

Dear John McCain,

Keep him, he's yours!

McGramps had him penciled as the next U.S. Attorney General.

WHOOPS!

Yay! There was a dry spell there for a while. Next?

Doug @ 12:

By the way he's sitting it looks like he has a wide stance. Is that the normal way closeted gay Republicans sit?

They have to sit that way because they have been deflowered in the back door.

unemployed @ 60:

BobbyFlav @ 16:

OK, hold the phone.
Is there a source for this story other than left-wing or other political blogs?
I mean it seems what we have here is blog posts linking to other blog posts linking to accounts of 'rumors circulating' about a wife allegedly catching her husband 'en flagrante' or whatever that saying is.
Not that I care, or that question C&L's integrity, but it would be best if this weren't all over the blogosphere without any real corroboration.

Exactly. Sounds rather suspicious. I'm waiting for the video proof, myself.

Ewwww.
Do.Not.Want.

Alzuben @56 Shrubya was never a liberal. One of his History teachers at Yale used to call Bushie out over his support of the Vietnam War and his hypocrisy over not going himself. Apparently the little twerp wouldn't answer, but just sat there and smirked. Sound familiar? Rove was a rightwing protogee of Lee Atwater from way back. And who could forget war supporter Dick Cheney; five deferrments.

Liberals? No

Coke sniffers? Undoubtedly! It was the drug of choice of the wealthy.

Mickxotic @ 81:

Alzuben @56 Shrubya was never a liberal. One of his History teachers at Yale used to call Bushie out over his support of the Vietnam War and his hypocrisy over not going himself. Apparently the little twerp wouldn't answer, but just sat there and smirked. Sound familiar? Rove was a rightwing protogee of Lee Atwater from way back. And who could forget war supporter Dick Cheney; five deferrments.

Liberals? No

Coke sniffers? Undoubtedly! It was the drug of choice of the wealthy.

oh, I agree, I lumped him in with the cool kids even though they wouldn't have anything to do with him....but where are all those other radicals from the 70s....and why are they so quiet now?

How do you say G.O.P. = Gay Old Party

alzuben @ 76:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 70:

alzuben @ 66:

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 60:

so, let me get this straight....

his statement was ambiguous....and his response was hysterical

and you are asking me to lighten up?

I don't know, is that derranged? Could I get a second opinion?

Stop your whining. You sound bitter.

wow, you regularly bathe in gasoline don't you?

why don't you pour yourself another vodka whatever and go watch the sun set.

I think you are right.. er... correct about the vodka part. But bathing in gasoline? Why would you say that? Because to me you sound bitter? Bathing in gasoline? Really?

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 31:

The name "Troy King" is practically a parody of a "gay name".

If anything, it's a gay porn-star name!! Who knows, maybe his post-AG job will be in pictures!

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 84:

alzuben @ 76:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 70:

alzuben @ 66:
Stop your whining. You sound bitter.

wow, you regularly bathe in gasoline don't you?

why don't you pour yourself another vodka whatever and go watch the sun set.

I think you are right.. er... correct about the vodka part. But bathing in gasoline? Why would you say that? Because to me you sound bitter? Bathing in gasoline? Really?

perhaps you should consider you are seeing things that only exist in your imagination. I mean seriously, 4 posts to tell me you think I am paranoid?

I think that is a fine example of your inflammability.

alzuben @ 45:

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

It's not about King or any of the other recently outed Republicans' sexuality. It's about their hypocrisy, Einstein! They legislate against actions that they, themselves, are engaged in.

alzuben @ 82:

....but where are all those other radicals from the 70s....and why are they so quiet now?

From the '70's? Are you talking about the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Brigate Rosse and the RAF/Baader-Meinhof Gang?

alzuben @ 82:

Mickxotic @ 81:

Alzuben @56 Shrubya was never a liberal. One of his History teachers at Yale used to call Bushie out over his support of the Vietnam War and his hypocrisy over not going himself. Apparently the little twerp wouldn't answer, but just sat there and smirked. Sound familiar? Rove was a rightwing protogee of Lee Atwater from way back. And who could forget war supporter Dick Cheney; five deferrments.

Liberals? No

Coke sniffers? Undoubtedly! It was the drug of choice of the wealthy.

oh, I agree, I lumped him in with the cool kids even though they wouldn't have anything to do with him....but where are all those other radicals from the 70s....and why are they so quiet now?

I'm a former member of the Student Mobilization Committee in the late 60's and early 70s. I used to be in the streets, demonstrating against Nixon and his damn war.

Once again, I find myself out in the street (with a bagpipe now) demonstrating against Bush and his war and McCain. Most of the other demonstrators are my age - at least here in Phoenix. I do not hold it against younger folk that they are not out there, but I wonder why they are not there.

I think that it is probably a mistake to ask "where are all the 60's radicals." As far as I can see, we're still out on the street with a buncha signs and a bagpipe.

Where are you?

alzuben

Hypocrisy

Andy K Jong Il @ 87:

alzuben @ 45:

right, because he's gay....that is why everybody is heaping scorn on this guy.

way to completely invalidate every legitimately openly gay person in America!

good for you!

It's not about King or any of the other recently outed Republicans' sexuality. It's about their hypocrisy, Einstein! They legislate against actions that they, themselves, are engaged in.

wherein did you think that I did not understand this? We're getting an awful lot of Schrodinger's Logic here.....i.e. simultaneously existing in some paralell dimension.

alzuben @ 82:

....but where are all those other radicals from the 70s....and why are they so quiet now?

From the '70's? Are you talking about the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Brigate Rosse and the RAF/Baader-Meinhof Gang?

perhaps you missed a part of the American experience when young people were protesting in the streets of Washington DC by the hundreds of thousands....it seems at that time that they took issue with hypocrisy and being sent off to war by an older generation.

There were a lot of fringe radicals in the 70